Americans Can't Wait To Get Out Of These Five States
A low cost of living, no sales tax, and beautiful scenery (oh, naked bike rides, more strip clubs per capita than any other US city, and legalized weed) means Oregon is the "top moving destination" for Americans for the third year running, according to United Van Lines, with 69% of moves inbound. But, which states are Americans leaving in droves?
Americans continue to pack up and head West and South, according to new data from United Van Lines.
Oregon is the most popular moving destination of 2015 with 69 percent of moves to and from the state being inbound. The state has continued to climb the ranks, increasing inbound migration by 10 percent over the past six years. New to the 2015 top inbound list is another Pacific West state, Washington, which came in at No. 10 with 56 percent inbound moves.
Moving In - The top inbound states of 2015 were:
- Oregon
- South Carolina
- Vermont
- Idaho
- North Carolina
- Florida
- Nevada
- District of Columbia
- Texas
- Washington
The Northeast continues to experience a moving deficit with New Jersey (67 percent outbound) and New York (65 percent) making the list of top outbound states for the fourth consecutive year. Two other states in the region — Connecticut (63 percent) and Massachusetts (57 percent) — also joined the top outbound list this year. The exception to this trend is Vermont (62 percent inbound), which moved up two spots on the list of top inbound states to No. 3.
Moving Out - The top outbound states for 2015 were:
- New Jersey
- New York
- Illinois
- Connecticut
- Ohio
- Kansas
- Massachusetts
- West Virginia
- Mississippi
- Maryland
Simply put, Americans are moving from heavily-regulated, bureaucratic, high cost-of-living states to more affordable states.
This year's data from United Van Lines...
And the interactive version from the last 39 years...
Finally, as The Daily Signal concludes,
Moving patterns show how important cost of living is to American families.
With perfect weather and a booming, high-tech economy, California ought to be the #1 destination. Instead, more moving trucks are leaving the state than entering.
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Avoid the tree streets in Mancester and Nashua can be pretty bad too.
Maine is taking a hit too. Portland, Lewiston and Auburn are getting hit pretty hard by heroin. The governor of Maine had taken criticism for a comment he made about teen pregnancies by the drug runners. His comments are spot on as the young girls are getting "roofied" with date rape drugs by the runners fron NY etc. apparently this is a badge if honor for them to knock them up. The governor should have been a little more tactful but spoke the truth. The folks that do this do stand out in the snow...
Heroin is getting bad everywhere. I live in Southern OHio. We moved here from CT. We like it. I guess the folks moving are keeping our prices down. Great microbreweries, OTR has become a nice entertainment spot.
Shout out to the CIA for selling heroin to kids....
Lepage is spot one. Fuck the apologies .. the truth hurts
Lepage is spot one. Fuck the apologies .. the truth hurts
You forgot to mention that you're bringing your three baby mamas and 11 or so sgorem jrs with you and if anybody in a yellow Cadillac comes round asking for you, best to play dumb.
City of Chicago just raised sales tax to 10.25 percent. Reason. Public sector employees pensions. The day I see Illinois in rear view mirror will be a happy day. Illegal Mayor. Corruption. Cranky people. Union hell hole . Learn Spanish if you want a job here. Good weekend all .
I am blessed(?) with an 8.75% rate - I notice it. Amazon capitulated and agreed to pay sales tax on orders in my state - I notice that too. There isn't much I can do about it on consumer staples - but I am spending less on non-essentials (especially higher priced things), and I do look for smaller on-line companies to buy from if they don't charge sales tax. I just see sales and income taxes to continue higher as our debt comes due.
most areas are nice until the liberals arrive
remember
of course, it helps to have a mind
Flying into New Wark, is like shipping container diving...lol
The connecting flights to Rochester, and Buffalo?
I left my birth home of NC 18 yrs ago. It got way too multicultural where I was at. It probably looks like SouthPark to NE'ers.
I'll tell you this much about Portland. Forget whatever you think you know from where you are coming from. You can get there free by hopping trains if you are good at that. Better is to ditch all your shit and go there with nothing but a shoulder bag with a laptop, a phone and a toothbrush. If you do not have a job before you get there expect to live off a fat wad of cash and expect to be homeless. However, being homeless there is comparatively easy. I know a guy who lived under the Burside Bridge with a broken leg in the winter and he lived.
You can find a room at a house if you have cash, first month, last month, security deposit. If you have a loose sphincter your odds are improoved.
First thing to do is get there. Then get a used bike and a Trimet pass. Expect to be treated like shit for being from anywhere else. Even people from anywhere else become Portlanders and don't give a fuck about you until you are one. You'll know when that happens.
You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a brew pub or a titty bar. I highly recommend the off-off-off broadway titty clubs. Dino's Inn is spectacular. Nothing is as fantastic as watching a first timer fall off the pole. But you have to hand it to her. If you are some kind of fucking stuck up bitch, Portland is not right for you. There is nothing like staying a few nights at The Hotel Joyce and getting a severe upper resperatory infection while protecting yourself from pill popping thieves, hallways covered in piss like the blood spewing from the elevators at The Overlook in The Shining, and the view is good.
You will not find a city with a better Public Transit system. Riding the Train or the Bus is preferable to watching television. You can eat very well in Chinatown for a few bucks. The music scene in Portland is over the top. You can sit your ass in Powells and read all day. You can slum it. If you think you're going to go to a place where they will open the doors for you, think again.
Get drunk there. That's the second thing. Getting shitfaced at the pub of your choice as often as possible will open the way for you. Tip fat. Tip Huge. Have fun!
Nice job. I got the sarcasm
well fuck 'showers....i've doin everything you just mentioned, HERE, for 66 fuckin years..................:)
That's awesome, sgorem!
I was a transient but survived there for six, seven years. The hipster douchebag factor finally got on my nerves. Seems like Portland is a spa for trustafarian college kids. No sales tax sounds awesome until you want to paint people's living rooms and have to pay off a thousand bureaucrats. Some people made a killing on real estate in the 80's 90's. But really when it's 52 degrees and raining in June, I dropped my guitar and said fuck it! I'm OUT!
Still, while PDX may be regarded as a liberal shit hole, my experience was that of being around amazing and bright open minded people. Finding and having a job there is a calling, a family away from home. People there know, they fucking know that if they fuck up there's at least a hundred people behind them willing to work harder for less money than you. You know the value of a dollar in Portland. Then when you get to pay taxes, you have to cough up your fucking spleen.
I didn't have much problem since the public transit was good, but then I broke some bank windows and did some rowdy shit for fun. Tipped over some portable toilets and set some shit on fire. You know, for the kids.
One thing I have heard is to be very very warry of old hippies. They have a game. You can't take the city out of you once you been there. It's like heroin. Being around people who are either evolve or perish is amazing. Oregon is good. It's a good place to be. I miss it, but I suck and moved to a very sparse census designated area and brew my own beer.
Portland is the best city to party in over the summer.
its fucking awesome
I live in Portland. It is a crappy city. The water tastes terrible, the trees are ugly and the Rose Garden stinks and don't get me started on that monstrosity Mount Hood. No one should move here and those that recently got here should leave, especially if they came from California or are avid skiers.
Some of you here have real talent. I would pay money to read some of these expanded into anthology of short stories. No shit. Keep 'em coming.
I'd bet anything the state with the most businesses moving to it is Texas. I say businesses and not individuals because that helps to level out the free shit movtivation for people moving.
To me the weather is really important. I like Arizona because I love heat. Phoenix is like Saudi Arabia but with Palm Trees. Flagstaff is attractive and very cold. Climate depends on elevation. Thankfully, few mosquitos and few flies unless around a property with horses. Lots of lizards, scorpions, rattlesnakes, coyotes, and killer bees. I have a roadrunner for a pet; he sleeps in my back porch light fixture. I've been in most all the states and there's something nice everywhere. Even rural NJ isn't bad except for the cold winters. I spent some time on Maui. Loved the surf but the natives really hate whitey and cheat you at every turn. Couldn't live there. I think the important thing is to own a good chunk of land where you don't have to endure stupid people. I grew up in poverty in an urban slum and feel sorry for anyone of any color who can't get out. I feel thankful for some space and freedom and don't judge anyone because I've done just about every stupid thing you can think of.
"I think the important thing is to own a good chunk of land where you don't have to endure stupid people."
Thats exactly what I thought when I bought 50 acres in the boonies and built a home on it. About a year ago, a crazy asshole bought a place about a quarter mile away from me. He's a gun nut, and his target practicing has resulted in two incidents so far: (1) one of his errant bullets ricocheted through one of our picture windows and blew up the TV in our living room (2) another richochet put a hole in my siding and punctured my waterheater.
I did make him pay to fix everything both times. The second time, I told that goofy bastard he's got two strikes against him, and the next time he does it I'm gonna call the law on his ass. Given the circumstances, I think I've been more than accomodating to that fucking moron. But what the hey, gotta be nice because we're neighbors!
Arthur, Arthur,
Die Welt als Ville und Verstehen... Shit, man. That totally sucks. That asshole killed your TV and your Water Heater... I'll tell you. I had some bad times and dumped a few clips into a VCR out here on the burn pile. Neighbors didn't do shit. Try that in the city. What I did once makes me a fool. What done twice, makes me an Asshole.
Over here, we go over the hill and blow shit up. It's fun. Short walk and you can throw grenades for anyone cares.
I read Schaupenhauer. He's perhaps my greatest hero. He makes spouting vitriol smoother than any man alive or dead has. And he's, well, not a Hegelian... Having taught in a room across from him and seeing his students flock to the later, well...
Listen; If you can't bet them, join them. Fire a few rounds into this guys coop and then drink a beer with him across the fence. If he doesn't like that, offer to kick him in the balls as a contest. You going first. Then, if that doesn't work and you don't want to swap wives, cut his break lines and put a bomb in his gas tank. I'm just kidding. Out here, people shoot you in the head when you are taking a piss, so, count yourself fortunate. Hell, man, start a militia. It's a cry for help this guy... Peace and everything bad that ever happened to you is your fault.
How the hell does that guy manage to bag your house twice from over 400 yards by accident??? Remember, once is accident, twice coincidence, 3 times enemy action...
You didn't say which state? Here in Maine the Yankee spirit lives. Natives are frugal and don't waste ammo, maybe a shot or two for checking the guns sights. Summer people and transplants are another story, plinking day in and day out. They reinforce the locals low opinion of "people from away."
Isn't it funny how people who live in the southwest, people not born here, love the fucking heat. It's the people from the Southwest, born here, who can't stand that shit. Anyway, yeah... I like the sky. You can see the milky way out here, or a few hours drive from home. Then you get the friends. Scorpions, Rattlesnakes in your house, Black Widows, Hares, Horney Toads, Vinegaroons, Camel Spiders... Box Turtles, Quail, Girls with names like Maria Chiquita Gonzalez Villa Lobos doing lines off the gas station countertops. Everyone here is fucked up on drugs. 9 time DUI hipsters with Juarez connects cutting off heads. The Bloods recruitment centers in the tri-state. Cities going poof! Imploding in clouds of meth powder. Fucking Walmart is the social glue.
At least it's a dry heat. Going through NJ with a pound of mushrooms on the Turnpike was sweaty. Don't do that! That's really fucking stupid. This is a public service announcement. Still, the things that high school kids get their hands on in Ridgewood is fucking insane!
Fucking love the Bronx though. You work at a pizza store and the boss acts like he's fucing Al Pacino, Al Green, Al Sharpton, and Al Capone all at the same fucking time. Hoop Hoop!
Tucson is good. Lot's of college sluts and dipshits. Bukowski stayed there a while. Good place to take a shit. But Phonenix? Fuck that! Fuck Phonenix! Only good there is Sheriff Joe.
What's wrong with Colorado, Shitty weed? lol
Live in Jersey. It's probably high property taxes that's driving retirees to Florida and the Carolinas. Had a house once. Never again. What it costs me to rent an apartment is about what many homeowners pay in property taxes.
Anything over about 0.25% property tax to me means you simply don't own your home. Your city owns your home, and you are a renter from the government owner.
My tax bill for 643 acres last year was $34.48. I can find that detecting a decent sized park in a half day...
Anything over zero.
I always get a good chuckle from people who rent and thnk they are escaping property tax.
I get a chuckle out of people who think I'm too stupid to know that.
I moved to NC three years ago. Now I’m considering taking up a petition in my town to prohibit anyone else from New York and New Jersey from getting in.
You must live in Chapel Hill?
Please tell me the comment about Cali is sarcasm?
That state is so fkd up i'd like to propose that we move DC to Cali. And, honestly, i'm surprised all our limp wrist politicians put up with the cold and don't just telecomute from the bahamas or wherever.
Retiring baby boomers are moving from the productive, high tax states where they built the companies and earned the income that drove the American economy for decades, to the unproductive, low tax moocher states. This is simply demographics, driven by sensible decision-making.
#1 New Jersey
Duh, Governor Christie used to work as Bernie Madoff's lobbyist.
New Jersey: A good place to be from.
Outside of Columbus the rest of the state is depressed. There really isn't much opportunity in Ohio to get ahead and most of the young college graduates leave the state shortly after they finish school. Plants still closing and drugs are becoming a real bad problem in the southern part of the state.
"With perfect weather and a booming, high-tech economy, California ought to be the #1 destination."
WHAT?!?
Droughts, Floods and an ongoing methane leak disaster are "perfect" conditions?
What crack are you smoking here?
RE
Eastern Massachusetts (East of I 495) is booming in terms of job growth & population (many are moving from other states for high paying jobs in Technology & Healthcare). Parts of Massachusetts seem like a depressing dead zone especially in the western part of the state but eastern MA is seeing at least 7% a year net increase in population
Taxachusetts is a shithole I escaped from a couple of decades ago.
Not the worst state in the nation but pretty close.
Worst of all, lot of Massholes moving to NH and screwing up that great state.
I have the displeasure of coming back at least once each year to visit family.
If it was nit for that I would never set my foot back in the Commonwealth.
Intermission:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiW-ItoEM88
Mind of a Lunatic: Ghetto Boys
In Indiana, most of the state is doing well EXCEPT here in Northwest Indiana-namely Lake County.
The dependency on the steel industry has made the area a one trick pony with the added feature of it being predominately Democratic.
They call for the state to have a 3.5+% GDP for the year but here in Lake County, ONLY 0.3%.
It is now the most heavily taxed per capita county in the state with a bullet (meaning it is climbing higher and faster).
Living next to Cook County IL and Chicago has done no favors.
Rest of Indiana is just fine.
In the end, the Free Market is the only protection you have. Leaving is deciding to not be part of a Captive Market, but instead to follow the Free Market to wherever you think you might get a better deal.
I think New Jersey is in recession. I think New Jersey decided to invest in casinos instead of in industry. Casinos don't produce anything.
That's not true - man of many prime numbers.
Casinos are great at producing - urban blight and decay, corruption and mobsters.
Some argue that the mobsters might produce the casinos, rather than the other way around. Who knows?
Oh, and they attract middle-aged divorcees by the thousands. Someone's got to deal.
:-) I think it takes a lot of excess discretional spending dollars to support a mobster, so, now that the excess discretional spending dollars have disappeared, I'm worried about the mobsters. Of course, New Jersey has agriculture, but I have difficulty picturing mobsters milking cows. "We love yas, Bessie, so listen up; we can do this the easy way or the hard way." :-)
Many Prime - I love it, the thought of Tony Soprano shaking down a Jersey farmer, well that's kinda funny. "I'll be back at 5 with my men, and either there will be 6 bushels of corn here for the boss, or you'll be in the hen house."
Then, I pictured him shaking down a starter in an golf clubhouse in a Jersey retirement village somewhere around exit 70 on the Garden State Parkway. He'd be a little guy around 75 years old, and the course would be an executive Par 3, and Tony would be roughing him up for a cut of the cart fees.
Recessions are rough on everyone.