Americans Can't Wait To Get Out Of These Five States

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A low cost of living, no sales tax, and beautiful scenery (oh, naked bike rides, more strip clubs per capita than any other US city, and legalized weed) means Oregon is the "top moving destination" for Americans for the third year running, according to United Van Lines, with 69% of moves inbound. But, which states are Americans leaving in droves?

Americans continue to pack up and head West and South, according to new data from United Van Lines.

Oregon is the most popular moving destination of 2015 with 69 percent of moves to and from the state being inbound. The state has continued to climb the ranks, increasing inbound migration by 10 percent over the past six years. New to the 2015 top inbound list is another Pacific West state, Washington, which came in at No. 10 with 56 percent inbound moves.

Moving In - The top inbound states of 2015 were:

  1. Oregon
  2. South Carolina
  3. Vermont
  4. Idaho
  5. North Carolina
  6. Florida
  7. Nevada
  8. District of Columbia
  9. Texas
  10. Washington

The Northeast continues to experience a moving deficit with New Jersey (67 percent outbound) and New York (65 percent) making the list of top outbound states for the fourth consecutive year. Two other states in the region — Connecticut (63 percent) and Massachusetts (57 percent) — also joined the top outbound list this year. The exception to this trend is Vermont (62 percent inbound), which moved up two spots on the list of top inbound states to No. 3.

Moving Out - The top outbound states for 2015 were:

  1. New Jersey
  2. New York
  3. Illinois
  4. Connecticut
  5. Ohio
  6. Kansas
  7. Massachusetts
  8. West Virginia
  9. Mississippi
  10. Maryland

Simply put, Americans are moving from heavily-regulated, bureaucratic, high cost-of-living states to more affordable states.

This year's data from United Van Lines...

 

And the interactive version from the last 39 years...

 

Finally, as The Daily Signal concludes,

Moving patterns show how important cost of living is to American families.

 

With perfect weather and a booming, high-tech economy, California ought to be the #1 destination. Instead, more moving trucks are leaving the state than entering.

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Fri, 01/08/2016 - 21:36 | 7020137 Yen Cross
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 Nice job. I got the sarcasm

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 21:44 | 7020160 sgorem
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well fuck 'showers....i've doin everything you just mentioned, HERE, for 66 fuckin years..................:)

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:03 | 7020219 Golden Showers
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That's awesome, sgorem!

I was a transient but survived there for six, seven years. The hipster douchebag factor finally got on my nerves. Seems like Portland is a spa for trustafarian college kids. No sales tax sounds awesome until you want to paint people's living rooms and have to pay off a thousand bureaucrats. Some people made a killing on real estate in the 80's 90's. But really when it's 52 degrees and raining in June, I dropped my guitar and said fuck it! I'm OUT!

Still, while PDX may be regarded as a liberal shit hole, my experience was that of being around amazing and bright open minded people. Finding and having a job there is a calling, a family away from home. People there know, they fucking know that if they fuck up there's at least a hundred people behind them willing to work harder for less money than you. You know the value of a dollar in Portland. Then when you get to pay taxes, you have to cough up your fucking spleen.

I didn't have much problem since the public transit was good, but then I broke some bank windows and did some rowdy shit for fun. Tipped over some portable toilets and set some shit on fire. You know, for the kids.

One thing I have heard is to be very very warry of old hippies. They have a game. You can't take the city out of you once you been there. It's like heroin. Being around people who are either evolve or perish is amazing. Oregon is good. It's a good place to be. I miss it, but I suck and moved to a very sparse census designated area and brew my own beer.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:40 | 7020498 DipshitMiddleCl...
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Portland is the best city to party in over the summer. 

 

its fucking awesome

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:53 | 7020532 dark_matter
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I live in Portland. It is a crappy city. The water tastes terrible, the trees are ugly and the Rose Garden stinks and don't get me started on that monstrosity Mount Hood. No one should move here and those that recently got here should leave, especially if they came from California or are avid skiers.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 09:12 | 7021227 FredFlintstone
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Some of you here have real talent. I would pay money to read some of these expanded into anthology of short stories. No shit. Keep 'em coming.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 21:49 | 7020176 Chris88
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I'd bet anything the state with the most businesses moving to it is Texas.  I say businesses and not individuals because that helps to level out the free shit movtivation for people moving.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 21:52 | 7020183 Baron von Bud
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To me the weather is really important. I like Arizona because I love heat. Phoenix is like Saudi Arabia but with Palm Trees. Flagstaff is attractive and very cold. Climate depends on elevation. Thankfully, few mosquitos and few flies unless around a property with horses. Lots of lizards, scorpions, rattlesnakes, coyotes, and killer bees. I have a roadrunner for a pet; he sleeps in my back porch light fixture. I've been in most all the states and there's something nice everywhere. Even rural NJ isn't bad except for the cold winters. I spent some time on Maui. Loved the surf but the natives really hate whitey and cheat you at every turn. Couldn't live there. I think the important thing is to own a good chunk of land where you don't have to endure stupid people. I grew up in poverty in an urban slum and feel sorry for anyone of any color who can't get out. I feel thankful for some space and freedom and don't judge anyone because I've done just about every stupid thing you can think of.

 

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:11 | 7020247 Arthur Schopenhauer
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"I think the important thing is to own a good chunk of land where you don't have to endure stupid people."

Thats exactly what I thought when I bought 50 acres in the boonies and built a home on it. About a year ago, a crazy asshole bought a place about a quarter mile away from me. He's a gun nut, and his target practicing has resulted in two incidents so far: (1) one of his errant bullets ricocheted through one of our picture windows and blew up the TV in our living room (2) another richochet put a hole in my siding and punctured my waterheater.

I did make him pay to fix everything both times. The second time, I told that goofy bastard he's got two strikes against him, and the next time he does it I'm gonna call the law on his ass. Given the circumstances, I think I've been more than accomodating to that fucking moron. But what the hey, gotta be nice because we're neighbors!

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:57 | 7020383 Golden Showers
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Arthur, Arthur,

Die Welt als Ville und Verstehen... Shit, man. That totally sucks. That asshole killed your TV and your Water Heater... I'll tell you. I had some bad times and dumped a few clips into a VCR out here on the burn pile. Neighbors didn't do shit. Try that in the city. What I did once makes me a fool. What done twice, makes me an Asshole.

Over here, we go over the hill and blow shit up. It's fun. Short walk and you can throw grenades for anyone cares.

I read Schaupenhauer. He's perhaps my greatest hero. He makes spouting vitriol smoother than any man alive or dead has. And he's, well, not a Hegelian... Having taught in a room across from him and seeing his students flock to the later, well...

Listen; If you can't bet them, join them. Fire a few rounds into this guys coop and then drink a beer with him across the fence. If he doesn't like that, offer to kick him in the balls as a contest. You going first. Then, if that doesn't work and you don't want to swap wives, cut his break lines and put a bomb in his gas tank. I'm just kidding. Out here, people shoot you in the head when you are taking a piss, so, count yourself fortunate. Hell, man, start a militia. It's a cry for help this guy... Peace and everything bad that ever happened to you is your fault.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 00:53 | 7020671 Axenolith
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How the hell does that guy manage to bag your house twice from over 400 yards by accident??? Remember, once is accident, twice coincidence, 3 times enemy action...

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 09:13 | 7021230 Pemaquid
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You didn't say which state? Here in Maine the Yankee spirit lives. Natives are frugal and don't waste ammo, maybe a shot or two for checking the guns sights. Summer people and transplants are another story, plinking day in and day out. They reinforce the locals low opinion of "people from away."

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:30 | 7020306 Golden Showers
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Isn't it funny how people who live in the southwest, people not born here, love the fucking heat. It's the people from the Southwest, born here, who can't stand that shit. Anyway, yeah... I like the sky. You can see the milky way out here, or a few hours drive from home. Then you get the friends. Scorpions, Rattlesnakes in your house, Black Widows, Hares, Horney Toads, Vinegaroons, Camel Spiders... Box Turtles, Quail, Girls with names like Maria Chiquita Gonzalez Villa Lobos doing lines off the gas station countertops. Everyone here is fucked up on drugs. 9 time DUI hipsters with Juarez connects cutting off heads. The Bloods recruitment centers in the tri-state. Cities going poof! Imploding in clouds of meth powder. Fucking Walmart is the social glue.

At least it's a dry heat. Going through NJ with a pound of mushrooms on the Turnpike was sweaty. Don't do that! That's really fucking stupid. This is a public service announcement. Still, the things that high school kids get their hands on in Ridgewood is fucking insane!

Fucking love the Bronx though. You work at a pizza store and the boss acts like he's fucing Al Pacino, Al Green, Al Sharpton, and Al Capone all at the same fucking time. Hoop Hoop!

Tucson is good. Lot's of college sluts and dipshits. Bukowski stayed there a while. Good place to take a shit. But Phonenix? Fuck that! Fuck Phonenix! Only good there is Sheriff Joe.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 21:54 | 7020191 FIAT CON
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What's wrong with Colorado, Shitty weed? lol

 

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 21:58 | 7020198 Spiritof42
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Live in Jersey. It's probably high property taxes that's driving retirees to Florida and the Carolinas. Had a house once. Never again. What it costs me to rent an apartment is about what many homeowners pay in property taxes. 

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:46 | 7020514 tangent
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Anything over about 0.25% property tax to me means you simply don't own your home. Your city owns your home, and you are a renter from the government owner.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 01:07 | 7020699 Axenolith
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My tax bill for 643 acres last year was $34.48. I can find that detecting a decent sized park in a half day...

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 01:39 | 7020743 Chris88
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Anything over zero.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 00:48 | 7020651 brushhog
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I always get a good chuckle from people who rent and thnk they are escaping property tax.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 07:51 | 7021088 Spiritof42
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I get a chuckle out of people who think I'm too stupid to know that.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:02 | 7020217 Downtoolong
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I moved to NC three years ago. Now I’m considering taking up a petition in my town to prohibit anyone else from New York and New Jersey from getting in.

 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 09:27 | 7021257 Eahudimac
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You must live in Chapel Hill?

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:05 | 7020225 rsnoble
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Please tell me the comment about Cali is sarcasm?

That state is so fkd up i'd like to propose that we move DC to Cali.  And, honestly, i'm surprised all our limp wrist politicians put up with the cold and don't just telecomute from the bahamas or wherever.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:21 | 7020279 Crusader75
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Retiring baby boomers are moving from the productive, high tax states where they built the companies and earned the income that drove the American economy for decades, to the unproductive, low tax moocher states. This is simply demographics, driven by sensible decision-making.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:24 | 7020288 22winmag
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#1 New Jersey

 

Duh, Governor Christie used to work as Bernie Madoff's lobbyist.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:14 | 7020427 silverer
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New Jersey: A good place to be from.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:45 | 7020353 cluelessminion
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Outside of Columbus the rest of the state is depressed.  There really isn't much opportunity in Ohio to get ahead and most of the young college graduates leave the state shortly after they finish school.  Plants still closing and drugs are becoming a real bad problem in the southern part of the state.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:49 | 7020363 Regression Economics
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"With perfect weather and a booming, high-tech economy, California ought to be the #1 destination."

 

WHAT?!?  

Droughts, Floods and an ongoing methane leak disaster are "perfect" conditions?

 

What crack are you smoking here?

 

RE

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 22:53 | 7020378 JMT
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Eastern Massachusetts (East of I 495) is booming in terms of job growth & population (many are moving from other states for high paying jobs in Technology & Healthcare).  Parts of Massachusetts seem like a depressing dead zone especially in the western part of the state but eastern MA is seeing at least 7% a year net increase in population

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 00:10 | 7020574 BarkingCat
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Taxachusetts is a shithole I escaped from a couple of decades ago.

Not the worst state in the nation but pretty close.

Worst of all, lot of Massholes moving to NH and screwing up that great state.

I have the displeasure of coming back at least once each year to visit family.

If it was nit for that I would never set my foot back in the Commonwealth. 

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:12 | 7020424 Golden Showers
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Intermission:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiW-ItoEM88

Mind of a Lunatic: Ghetto Boys

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:14 | 7020430 Joe_in_Indiana
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In Indiana, most of the state is doing well EXCEPT here in Northwest Indiana-namely Lake County.

The dependency on the steel industry has made the area a one trick pony with the added feature of it being predominately Democratic.

They call for the state to have a 3.5+% GDP for the year but here in Lake County, ONLY 0.3%.

It is now the most heavily taxed per capita county in the state with a bullet (meaning it is climbing higher and faster). 

Living next to Cook County IL and Chicago has done no favors.

 

Rest of Indiana is just fine.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:16 | 7020431 12357111317
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In the end, the Free Market is the only protection you have.  Leaving is deciding to not be part of a Captive Market, but instead to follow the Free Market to wherever you think you might get a better deal.

I think New Jersey is in recession.  I think New Jersey decided to invest in casinos instead of in industry.  Casinos don't produce anything.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 07:20 | 7021040 dvfco
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That's not true - man of many prime numbers.

Casinos are great at producing - urban blight and decay, corruption and mobsters.

Some argue that the mobsters might produce the casinos, rather than the other way around.  Who knows?

Oh, and they attract middle-aged divorcees by the thousands.  Someone's got to deal.

 

 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:15 | 7021948 12357111317
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:-)  I think it takes a lot of excess discretional spending dollars to support a mobster, so, now that the excess discretional spending dollars have disappeared, I'm worried about the mobsters.  Of course, New Jersey has agriculture, but I have difficulty picturing mobsters milking cows.  "We love yas, Bessie, so listen up; we can do this the easy way or the hard way."  :-)

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 18:15 | 7023296 dvfco
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Many Prime - I love it, the thought of Tony Soprano shaking down a Jersey farmer, well that's kinda funny.  "I'll be back at 5 with my men, and either there will be 6 bushels of corn here for the boss, or you'll be in the hen house."

Then, I pictured him shaking down a starter in an golf clubhouse in a Jersey retirement village somewhere around exit 70 on the Garden State Parkway. He'd be a little guy around 75 years old, and the course would be an executive Par 3, and Tony would be roughing him up for a cut of the cart fees.

Recessions are rough on everyone.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:18 | 7020444 WolfgangCire
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everyone is going to die from fukushima. dont move.  just remain calm and die.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:31 | 7020479 jomama
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Weird, you'd think there would be a mass exodus from California reading varied ZH comments sections.

I guess it's just the redneck invasion spewing a bunch of hateful, ignorant bullshit as usual?

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 00:01 | 7020555 I Write Code
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It's percentage figures, if three lesbians move to Vermont it pops to the top of the list.

California has had small percentage net outflows for several years, even more Mexicans are going than coming, if you believe the press.  But don't worry, plenty left if you need some.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:51 | 7020519 pocomotion
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I was going to post a pic of 'urban moving systems' van from 911 but there is copywriter stuff written all over it.  You know -- to help you people move to the state you best fit in?  Google 'moving company 911', select images, then note all the references to copy-written material.  Even the holders of the copy-write know the value of over 3, 000 American dead on 911...  nuff said.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 02:47 | 7020830 Otrader
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It is proven beyond the slightest shadow of doubt that Israeli agents had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and together with scientific forensic proof of controlled demolitions of WTC1, 2 and 7. The very first people arrested on suspicion of involvement in the 9/11 attacks turned out to be five Israeli Jews: Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg (Sivan's brother), Oded Ellner, Yaron Shmuel and Omer Marmari. Their white Urban Moving Systems van was stopped and they were arrested within hours of the attacks, on the afternoon of 9/11/01. Sivan Kurzberg, Ellner and Shmuel had been observed by several eyewitnesses at the rear parking lot of the Doric apartment complex in Union City, New Jersey. They were seen atop the van with cameras, high-fiving, smiling, joking with cries of joy and mockery, hugging each other, and taking photographs and video of the Twin Towers within a few minutes of the first plane impact.

Marc Perelman of New York's Jewish weekly The Forward reported on March 15, 2002 that the FBI had concluded that at least two of the Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, and their employer Urban Moving Systems Incorporated was a suspected intelligence front. On September 14, 2001, Urban's owner Dominick Suter fled the U.S. for Israel. Perelman also tells on video of how he was able to confirm that, according to the FBI, two of the five Israelis were "Mossad agents". Christopher Ketcham says the transcripts of the Carl Cameron report were later removed from the Fox News website following pressure from Abe Foxman of the ADL, and replaced with the rather Orwellian message: "This story no longer exists".

When arrested, the Israelis - dubbed the "High-Fivers" by the FBI - were found to have airline tickets with immediate travel dates for destinations world-wide, and tie-ins to 9/11. Dual US-Israeli citizen Michael Chertoff, who co-authored the USA Patriot Act" and headed the Justice Department's Criminal Division in the aftermath of 9/11, is a prime suspect for pulling strings to get the Israelis released and sent home.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 07:10 | 7021024 dvfco
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Every American citizen should be reminded of these facts, daily.

Cocksuckers - blow up our world so we will fight surrogate wars in theirs.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 07:15 | 7021030 dvfco
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This reminds me of an old guy I met retiring in Brooklyn.  When asked where he was moving, he said he wasn't quite sure yet.  When asked, 'what's your plan?" I got a very, very memorable answer.

He said he and his wife were going to be driving south and west out of NY.  Every time they stopped for gas or to eat, they'd say the word "JEW" to the first people they met.

The first time someone said, "What's a Jew - that's when I stop driving and buy a little house or condo."

Of course, I don't find any humor or good old common sense in this idea, I just thought I'd convey it.  Oy!

This came from the same person legendary for saying, "Show me a place with more than one Jew, and I'll show you a place where there's trouble brewing."

I think he might have been a bit anti-semitic.  I"m not sure.  Somoeone told me he was a 'realist', but I don't know what they meant by that.

 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 10:14 | 7021415 J Jason Djfmam
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Reality has an anti-semitic bias.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 23:59 | 7020552 Vendetta
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As manufacturing within the country continues to decline with more 'betrade' agreements on the horizon ....

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 00:05 | 7020562 duck dodgers
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Oregon...a bastion of liberty. In Portland they fined a bar owner $400,000 because he asked a group of transexuals not to have thier weekly meetings at his bar because it was driving away business. 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 02:37 | 7020824 dreadnaught
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link?

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 03:20 | 7020854 Vuke
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Dreadnaught, are you fearful of google?  Five seconds and you have it.

http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2015/09/23/oregon-bar-to-pay-400k-for-bannin...

 

 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 08:58 | 7021203 FredFlintstone
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Probably just a snotty lib

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 10:31 | 7021496 HenryHall
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From that link:

The message said business was down Fridays, likely because people incorrectly assumed the P Club was a gay or “tranny” bar.

 

Assuming that business really was down on Fridays and he could prove it and not simply making up a bogus excuse then the easy solution would be to help people from making a wrong assumption by simply displaying a big sign "THIS IS NOT A GAY OR TRANNY BAR, and every customer is welcome".

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