Americans' Positive Perception Of NRA Soars As Obama Escalates Gun-Control Agenda

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

When pollsters asked people three decades ago how they felt about the National Rifle Association, 27% said they strongly supported the gun lobby. By last month, that share had grown 38%, an 11-point increase. Meanwhile, the share that didn’t side with the NRA declined.

 

By an 8-point, registered voters in the Journal/NBC survey last month said they were more concerned that the government would go too far in restricting gun rights than that it fail to do enough to regulate access to firearms. When adults were asked the same question in 1995, the greater fear was that access to firearms was too widespread.

 

In July polling, the Journal/NBC survey found that 43% of the public had a positive image of the NRA and 32% a negative one—a more favorable view than the public held of the Supreme Court or either political party. By a 15-point margin, political independents, also viewed the NRA more positively than negatively.

 

– From the Wall Street Journal article: Rising Support for NRA Stymies Obama

Love guns or hate guns, one thing is becoming perfectly clear. The American public’s perception of guns and the NRA is moving in the exact opposite direction of Barack Obama’s message and agenda.

To hear Obama speak, you’d think the NRA is simply using boatloads of money and propaganda to thwart the impassioned gun control desires of the American public. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth. First, let’s take a look at some powerful charts from the Wall Street Journal.

 

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As you can clearly see, the numbers regarding NRA support have virtually flipped over the past thirty years. This is also consistent with a recent ABC News poll which showed for the first time that a majority of American are against an assault weapons ban. From the post, A Majority of Americans Oppose “Assault Weapons Ban” – Highest Number on Record:

A majority of Americans oppose banning assault weapons for the first time in more than 20 years of ABC News/Washington Post polls, with the public expressing vast doubt that the authorities can prevent “lone wolf” terrorist attacks and a substantial sense that armed citizens can help.

 

Indeed, while the division is a close one, Americans by 47-42 percent think that encouraging more people to carry guns legally is a better response to terrorism than enacting stricter gun control laws. Divisions across groups are vast, underscoring the nation’s gulf on gun issues.

Now here’s another chart from the same Wall Street Journal article, which is even more compelling.

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Although Democrats hate the NRA (the same group that supports Hillary for President despite admitting she’s untrustworthy), Independents show strong support. Why is this important? Because according to a recent Gallup poll, a record 43% of Americans identify as Independents.

From Gallup:

PRINCETON, N.J. — An average 43% of Americans identified politically as independents in 2014, establishing a new high in Gallup telephone poll trends back to 1988. In terms of national identification with the two major parties, Democrats continued to hold a modest edge over Republicans, 30% to 26%.

 

Since 2008, the percentage of political independents — those who identify as such before their leanings to the two major parties are taken into account — has steadily climbed from 35% to the current 43%, exceeding 40% each of the last four years. Prior to 2011, the high in independent identification was 39% in 1995 and 1999.

 

The recent rise in political independence has come at the expense of both parties, but more among Democrats than among Republicans. Over the last six years, Democratic identification has fallen from 36% — the highest in the last 25 years — to 30%. Meanwhile, Republican identification is down from 28% in 2008 to 26% last year.

Now here’s the chart. There’s a well defined bull market in Independent-identifying Americans:

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Finally, let’s end this post with some excerpts from the Wall Street Journal article from which the previously highlighted charts were pulled:

When pollsters asked people three decades ago how they felt about the National Rifle Association, 27% said they strongly supported the gun lobby. By last month, that share had grown 38%, an 11-point increase. Meanwhile, the share that didn’t side with the NRA declined.

 

That is just one measure of the challenge that has forced President Barack Obama to sidestep Congress and put in place new gun regulations through executive action. Mr. Obama knows through hard experience that lawmakers have little appetite for passing tougher gun laws. Polling shows that skepticism is rooted among the broader public, as well.

So there you go. King Obama sees political trends he doesn’t like, knows that Congress can’t do anything about it because the public doesn’t want it to, so he does it by himself by executive decree.

As I noted on Twitter the other day:

Now back to the WSJ:

 

By an 8-point, registered voters in the Journal/NBC survey last month said they were more concerned that the government would go too far in restricting gun rights than that it fail to do enough to regulate access to firearms. When adults were asked the same question in 1995, the greater fear was that access to firearms was too widespread. 

 

But as Mr. Obama seeks any small patch of common ground, one of the most powerful forces he must deal with is skepticism of any new laws—even the widely backed expansion of background checks. A majority in Gallup polling said background checks would have little or no effect in reducing mass shootings. And a majority believed the country would be safer if more people carried concealed weapons—a finding in tune with the NRA’s contention that “the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.’’

 

While support for the NRA skews Republican, it is not exclusively Republican. Some 41% of political independents rate themselves as highly supportive of the gun lobby, more than twice the share that doesn’t support the group, December’s Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey found.

 

In July polling, the Journal/NBC survey found that 43% of the public had a positive image of the NRA and 32% a negative one—a more favorable view than the public held of the Supreme Court or either political party. By a 15-point margin, political independents, also viewed the NRA more positively than negatively.

 

“The gun lobby may be holding Congress hostage right now, but they cannot hold America hostage,’’ Mr. Obama said in announcing his new gun regulations. But in going up against the NRA, he is working against a force that is not only powerful but popular among many in the country.

Substitute “the American public” for “the gun lobby,” and you’ll find out what’s really irking King Barry.

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Sat, 01/09/2016 - 11:41 | 7021799 zerotohero
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I hope trump builds a wall around the U.S. To keep all citizens safe from the rest of the world - then they all go full retard on each other with their guuns

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 13:04 | 7022199 NoVa
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so where do you live?

 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 14:36 | 7022545 zerotohero
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Lol not ussa

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 11:48 | 7021833 SgtShaftoe
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Unfortunately the support is ill placed though the sentiment is welcome.  The NRA has sold out gun owners time and time again over the last 20 years, waving a white flag of defeat in political conflicts while groups like Gun Owners of America have fought tooth and nail with far, far fewer resources and succeeded.  Support GOA and other no-compromise groups.  The NRA has fallen far in the last 20 years. 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 11:49 | 7021844 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Really, join both. Cover all your bases. 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:01 | 7021851 SgtShaftoe
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I don't feel like paying for jet fuel and birdseye maple cabinets for LaPierre's G5.  I could use those resources to buy more ammo and other essential things.  When the NRA starts funding victims defense funds for government over-reach or doing anything meaningful I'll reconsider. 

These guys have some older details: http://www.nrawol.net/

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 11:51 | 7021852 arbwhore
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I pledge allegiance to the President of the United States of America, and to the Dictatorship which he alone commands, one Nation under Barack, divisible, with liberty and justice for the wealthy.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:34 | 7022055 Uchtdorf
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Apparently, somebody needs a sarc tag.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 15:07 | 7022645 arbwhore
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I found this truth to be self-evident.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:15 | 7021864 frankly scarlet
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Reminds me we're having our first "gong" shoot tomorrow morning...12 inch gong off hand at 200 yards. I use an old Savage Model 45 bolt action in 250-3000 Savage, rebarreled to a 1 in 8 with a 128 grain cast bullet over 20 grains of Improved Military Rifle (IMR) 4895. Come spring the crowd, men and women will switch back over to trap Sunday mornings.......as for the Oregon Standoff it seems everyone wants to have their chance to spout for their cause  under this spotlight and podium...another example besides vegan environmentalists protesting cattle ranching is this judge's open letter to the local sheriff of Harney County, Sheriff Ward, and this (cute) constitutional lawyer and her video on State vs Federal jurisdiction.  cheers and remember proper gun control is a steady aim with good trigger skills.

http://farmwars.info/?p=14358

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 11:56 | 7021874 MedicalQuack
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You know the government will are maybe already has begun doing gun risk assessments.  They do it on everything anymore and I write about healthcare and it's huge over there.  You are secretly scored by both private industry and government and you don't even know it. It all in the madness of thinking quantitated analytics will solve everything, it won't.  

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2016/01/so-whats-future-with-guns-and.html

We come right back around to what I wrote a couple years ago initially is the fact that people confuse virtual world values with the real world all the time. Guns are the real world of course but all the so called junk science on how they think technology with data will stop everything bad happening is fiction.

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/06/virtual-world-values-and-real-world-we.html

 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 11:57 | 7021875 GRDguy
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The Gun Lobby helps protect us from the Money Lobby.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:00 | 7021883 Niall Of The Ni...
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Ask yourselves this: why do our masters tolerate sales of guns to civilians at all? 

Could it be that it's no big deal?

Someone's making serious bank selling Internet tough guys toys that go bang. It clearly doesn't really get in the way of stealing our wealth and eroding our freedoms. If anybody important is worried about white guys having a go at violent regime change, it doesn't show.

Military technology has come a long way since 1865, and the bad guys see to it that civilians get nowhere near the technology needed to do any real damage. In 1864 it took Sherman months to burn down Dixie.  Today he could do it in minutes---and if you think Hillary wouldn't nuke Little Rock if Arkansas had another go at secession, you must be new here.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:09 | 7021906 SgtShaftoe
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Your point that guns are no big deal at all is 100% wrong.  Military technology is great, but it's not enough.  Anyone who has studied 4th generation warfare knows this.  I can tell you from my own perspective as a former Army officer and the opinions of quite a few SF guys I used to work with, that communities with semi-auto rifles and some experience or effective training can stop a conventional military in it's tracks.  In fact, a community can far more effectively defend themselves than an aggressing army can mount an effective offense.

Though defendable terrain is also a helpful force multiplier. 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:18 | 7021967 ThisIsBob
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Just ask the Taliban.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:22 | 7021989 PacOps
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_warfare

Fourth-generation warfare is defined as conflicts which involve the following elements:

  • Are complex and long term
  • Terrorism (tactic)
  • A non-national or transnational base – highly decentralized
  • A direct attack on the enemy's culture, including genocidal acts against civilians.
  • Highly sophisticated psychological warfare, especially through media manipulation and lawfare
  • All available pressures are used – political, economic, social and military
  • Occurs in low intensity conflict, involving actors from all networks
  • Non-combatants are tactical dilemmas
  • Lack of hierarchy
  • Small in size, spread out network of communication and financial support
  • Use of insurgency and guerrilla tactics
Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:37 | 7022073 brada1013567
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Fourth-generation warfare is defined as conflicts which involve the following elements:

  • Are complex and long term
  • Terrorism (tactic)
  • A non-national or transnational base – highly decentralized
  • A direct attack on the enemy's culture, including genocidal acts against civilians.
  • Highly sophisticated psychological warfare, especially through media manipulation and lawfare
  • All available pressures are used – political, economic, social and military
  • Occurs in low intensity conflict, involving actors from all networks
  • Non-combatants are tactical dilemmas
  • Lack of hierarchy
  • Small in size, spread out network of communication and financial support
  • Use of insurgency and guerrilla tactics

That sounds like Donald Trump's campaign strategy.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:38 | 7022076 Uchtdorf
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Sarge, I think both you and Niall are right. Hillary wouldn't mind using WMD on Americans while a well-regulated militia can be an awesome force.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:52 | 7022140 SgtShaftoe
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The 2nd and third order effects of using WMDs especially nukes domestically would be terrifying to anyone working in government.  It's a non-starter.  Anyone capable of basic staff planning knows this and you can bet that those in Mordor on the Potomac are doing their homework on those scenarios. 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 14:08 | 7022439 nc551
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Guns in civilian hands are no big deal if there is true war.  There is never true war though.  It is always about control, not wiping out the enemy.  Control requires occupation.  Occupation is a bitch if the locals don't want you there, especially if they have a means to reach out and touch you.  The military by default is geared towards total destruction, which makes them sound quite formidable, but they are never used that way.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 19:47 | 7023624 gcjohns1971
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A tank's most vulnerable point is its refueling point and spare parts truck.

An aircraft's most vulnerable point is its airfield and crew support systems.

Both require sanctuaries that won't be there.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 19:47 | 7023625 gcjohns1971
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A tank's most vulnerable point is its refueling point and spare parts truck.

An aircraft's most vulnerable point is its airfield and crew support systems.

Both require sanctuaries that won't be there.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:02 | 7021889 worbsid
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When I was a kid, the Sears catalog had several pages of new rifles and shotguns for sale.  You bought one and they sent it to you, end of story. IIRC: You could not buy pistols mail order from Sears for some reason but the gun stores had plenty. 

What this AH wants is for me to do a background check on my grandson before I give him his first rifle.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:06 | 7021909 Pitiful
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I've already said this 100 times before and I'll say it one more time:

The Patriot Act supercedes all of this gun control crap. I'm tired of hearing about this nonsense.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:14 | 7021944 wmbz
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Down here in S.Carolina most folks grew up with guns.

Let a pack of wild ass muzzie punks come on down and try the rape bullshit here.

A whole bunch of good 'ol boys & girls will come down from their deer stands and start a new kind of hunting season.

No shortage of ammo around here.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 13:42 | 7022349 NotApplicable
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That would make the politicos in DC every bit as happy as they were when Ft. Sumter "gave" King Lincoln his casus belli to start that war.

Divide and conquer, as always, is alive and well.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:16 | 7021946 rejected
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99% of Mericans totally ignore the first and most important half of the 2nd. Why,,, because it demands something from their fat lazy indoctrinated butts other than waddling down to the voting booth once every four years. You can't have self government when the selfies don't want to participate.

The NRA has assisted government in many of the gun laws prior to the 1980's. Hell, even today you can't go a public gun range without some "Certified" NRA brownshirt telling you when to load and when to shoot and even when you can go to the bathroom which is why I stopped going to them.

 

The NRA President Karl T. Frederick, a 1920 Olympic gold-medal winner for marksmanship who became a lawyer, praised the new state gun controls in Congress. “I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons,” he testified before the 1938 law was passed. “I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.”  Listen up you Texicans.

"In May 1967, two dozen Black Panther Party members walked into the California Statehouse carrying rifles to protest a gun-control bill, prompting then-Gov. Ronald Reagan to comment, “There’s no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.” Not the Gipper!

"But in the mid-1960s, the Black Panthers were better-known than the NRA for expressing that view of the Second Amendment."

"http://www.salon.com/2013/01/14/the_nra_once_supported_gun_control/"

Yes the NRA has a new agenda,,, after years of assisting the Fed's passing gun laws the wind direction has changed and they now support gun ownership,,, and especially push NRA training gun owners, gun ranges, and anything else gun related,,, most likely soon to be a requirement.

Gun control by stealth and deceit.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:15 | 7021949 Burticus
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Several years ago, I naively took time away from my professional practice and ran for state senate, one-on-one against the career incumbent.

I contacted the NRA-ILA, completed their survey and informed them that I was 100% pro-gun, an NRA member for over a decade, a lifetime hunter, carry permit holder, and had more guns in my truck than my opponent owns.

Imagine my dismay when the pre-erection issue of American Hunter mag arrived and the NRA Voting Guide listed my opponent, grade A, but DID NOT EVEN LIST ME!  They later explained that they omit candidates not wearing a jackass or elephant costume.

Flock the NRA!  They are water boys for the ruling party, possibly controlled opposition.  I fired them and joined Gun Owners of America (GOA).

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:44 | 7022100 Citxmech
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Thanks for the story.  That's really good to know and incredibly disturbing.

PS  You can still say "fuck" here.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 13:17 | 7022247 Burticus
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Thanks for the reminder, pal.

"Buy the fuckin' dip (in silver)!"

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 14:01 | 7022293 Fuku Ben
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Now that is interesting. I've read and heard a lot of stories about the NRA being potential gatekeepers for the 2 party farce and the fraudulently misrepresented Country aka "Federal Corporation" (28 US Code § 3002 section 15) establishment in Washington. Yours is the most concrete example I've read. I've seen people walking in to guns shows standing by the NRA table telling others not to sign up. So is it possible one of the NRA Corporation's goals is infringing upon the rights of everyone by being gatekeepers for the criminal government in Washington?

Any corporation that equates retaining individual unalienable rights through affiliation with a particular political party/parties should tell everyone something.

Rights are unalienable and for everyone period. Political party affiliation has nothing to do with it. If an individual chooses not to exercise their rights that's their own shortsightedness. As we've all seen there are no shortages of criminal scum on this planet willing to sell, trade, limit or steal them from everyone. And anyone attempting to infringe upon or eliminate the rights of anyone is in effect attacking everyone's rights regardless of political party.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:23 | 7021997 general ambivalent
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Obama's tears are real. He fears hunters will occupy that new golf course he's banking on.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:26 | 7022014 man of Wool
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Gun addiction is a difficult disease to cure.

 

Its not dictatorship from Obama, its called governance. The president is democratically elected like congress but he is less dysfunctional than congress.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:35 | 7022054 silverer
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You should move to a country with a dictator.  That's what you defined.  You can't make up your own mind about anything, and believe nobody should have a choice about anything.  That's basically what you just stated.  You elect a person, 51 to 49%, but now everyone must do the leaders bidding no matter what.  Even if the leader wants to do what only 25% want, and disregards the 75%.   You want somebody else to pick your job, your wife, where you live, how you spend your time,  who you associate with, what your beliefs should be, what you eat, how much of your money you get to keep and so forth.  That exists elsewhere in the world.   You are just misplaced by being in the US, that's all.  Don't feel bad about it.  Get motivated and move.  Bless you.  We wish you the best.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:35 | 7022062 Anopheles
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"Gun addiction is a difficult disease to cure."

 

But stupidity is always fatal. 

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:40 | 7022083 Sanity Bear
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hoplophobia can be cured in 30 minutes at a range, unless the victim suffers from irreversible mental deficiency associated with the failure to reach sexual maturity

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:50 | 7022120 Who was that ma...
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Every lifeform on earth has the right to self protection and is often so equiped by nature.  The tiger has its fangs, the elephant its tusks, the eagle its claws and beak, even the bee and hornet have their stingers.  So long as there are guns in the hands of those who would do harm to my loved ones or myself, I WILL NOT be deprived of the natural, God given RIGHT to the means of self protection and self defense.  The history of the world is filled with examples of what happens to those who do.  There are two types of people in the world, those who refuse to relinquish the right to the means of self defense, and slaves.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 14:50 | 7022598 Gohigher
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"Gun addiction is a difficult disease to cure."

And that damn "gateway" rubber band led me to a slingshot, which led me to a BB gun which then led me to my personal protective stash of guns, knives and ammo. Fuck Yeah ! 

 

Then I read the second sentence of your post and thought," good god, this guy's humor is criminally awesome. I'm still laughing.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 15:02 | 7022627 Wulfkind
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Gun addiction is a difficult disease to cure.

 

Its not dictatorship from Obama, its called governance. The president is democratically elected like congress but he is less dysfunctional than congress.

 

Your right to say stupid shit was secured for you by a gun.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:27 | 7022028 brada1013567
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No no no that picture is all wrong, Obama's robes are more like King Jaffe Joffer's in Coming to America.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:28 | 7022031 silverer
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The president has demonstrated that he lacks listening skills, and believes that any other opinions or beliefs other than this own are unimportant and are to be disregarded.  He simply selects any minority pool of people that agree with him, and moves ahead to further and champion those values instead of those of the majority.  Those are poor qualities to have in a Commander in Chief and leader of free people.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 13:21 | 7022256 GeezerGeek
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I'm not sure Obama even listens to what he is actually saying. I listened to a small portion of his CNN whatever-it-was with Blooper. While discussing how Americans seemed to worry that this was part of a conspiracy to take away people's guns, this exchange occurred:

Blooper: "A lot of people really believe this deeply...they just don't trust you."
Obama: "Yes, it is fair to call it a conspiracy."

So was Barry admitting it is a conspiracy, or did he mean to say that such attitudes on behalf of concerned citizens are just some "baseless conspiracy theory"? The way I heard it, he was admitting there is such a conspiracy. Hidden in plain sight? (That's 'plane site' for those of you who aren't homonymophobic.)

Imprecise use of language is a poor quality to have in a Commander in Chief and leader of free people.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:30 | 7022039 Who was that ma...
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The right to defend and protect our loved ones, our property, our selves, and our freedom is the most basic and the most important right of all which goes a long way towards explaining why it is under attack.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:36 | 7022066 Sanity Bear
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It's a trap. The NRA is not a supporter of the 2nd Amendment and has its hands in all sorts of firearms restrictions, both historically and in the present.

 

If you want to join an organization dedicated to the right to bear arms, the Gun Owners of America is the one to support.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:44 | 7022099 Dr. Engali
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Support both.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 14:38 | 7022553 Gohigher
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Support any who support strict adherence to the Constitution over the Deep State.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:39 | 7022080 Amy G. Dala
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Something about the tearfest that bothered me, nobody is talking about.  Obummer offered the anecdote:  in Beijing-- Beijing! a man walks into a school and attacks the children with a knife.  Many are injured, but nobody is killed.  What if the man would have had a gun?

Message:  if we had the same gun control laws as China, this kind of shit wouldn't happen.

Naw, I don't want to take your guns . . .

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:46 | 7022110 tarabel
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Whenever I hear the phrase King Obama, I always think back to a song lyric I heard as a kid: "He's King Midas in reverse."

Everything Obama touches turns to shit.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:51 | 7022137 stormsailor
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its about time the american people realize the importance of the 2nd amendment.  i am a proud  NRA Benefactor and have sent thousands of dollars over the years to the ila.  i hate lobbiest but at leat they lobby for pro 2nd amendment legislation.

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 12:56 | 7022164 Publicus_Reanimated
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But... but... but... How can they disagree with me when I'm so RIGHT?!?!?!?!?!

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