The Mysterious Case Of Jill Stein's Surging Recount Costs

Tyler Durden's picture

Just yesterday we noted that Jill Stein was acting on behalf of Hillary Clinton to raise money for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.  As we noted then, we continue to be astonished by the amount of money flowing into the fundraising campaign and would love to see which of Hillary's mega donors have spent the most on the effort...somehow we suspect this isn't just a "grassroots organizing" effort as Stein described it.

So, in less than 1 day, Jill Stein raised over $3mm, which is more than the $2mm needed to force a recount in Wisconsin.  While she attributed the accomplishment to "the power of grassroots organizing," we would tend to be a little more skeptical and would love to see exactly where those donations came from.  Then again, maybe we're wrong and there really are just that many disaffected snowflakes out there willing to blow their money on an extreme long shot.

But, today a new mystery has emerged in Stein's fundraising efforts.  Apparently, the more money she raises the more expensive the recount effort becomes.  Courtesy of the Wayback Machine we have the following snapshots from her fundraising page over the past couple of days:

November 24, 2016 at 3:46AM - In the beginning, Stein figured she needed a total of $2.5mm to fund her recount efforts.  That figure included $2.2mm for the actual filing fees and presumably another $0.3mm for legal fees and other costs.

JS


November 24, 2016 at 1:20PM - Then, just 12 hours later, after the cash just kept flowing in, Stein figured she needed at least another $2mm as her fundraising goal was raised to $4.5mm in total.  Of course, the filing fees of $2.2mm didn't change but the "attorney's fees" apparently surged by about 300% and the total costs of the effort skyrocketed to $6-7mm.

JS

 

November 25, 2016 at 6:11AM - Now, just this morning as Stein approaches $5mm in total donations, her overall fundraising goal has surged once again and now stands at $7mm.

JS

 

So, with nearly $5mm raised so far, the question is no longer whether recounts will occur in WI, MI and PA but just how much Jill Stein will be able to drain from the pockets of disaffected Hillary supporters to fund her long-shot efforts.

All that said, here is Jill Stein admitting to CNN that she has absolutely no evidence of election hacking....even though she asks that you please keep sending your money anyway.

 

And another where she says she would have challenged the election result even if Hillary won...though somehow we suspect she wouldn't have been able to raise quite so much money under that scenario.

 

And finally we leave you with this latest epic rant from PJW on the whole situation:

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LOL123's picture

Lol they will be using the new math of 1+2=5... Gotta love um.

pparalegal's picture

Donations going up as Hillary's welfare reciepients return from Black Friday mall and Wal*Mart fights. Right.

loveyajimbo's picture

Does Stein get to keep the funds not used in a recount?

If so, that is all you need to know.

indygo55's picture

Its the fees. Jill is an attorney so she is in on the feast. Its all BS and they do it right in front of everyone as the "people" sit in front of their telescreens throbbing with the low frequency waves zombifying their brains into submission.

 

MEAN BUSINESS's picture

Dr. Jill Stein is a medical doctor not an attorney.

Fathead Slim's picture
Fathead Slim (not verified) MEAN BUSINESS Nov 25, 2016 9:21 PM

Yes, but it was a funny post, nonetheless.

navy62802's picture

Obvious money laundering operation.

bornlastnight's picture

"Jill Stein Now Says Money She Raised for “Recount” May Go Elsewhere

    Before you donate to Green Party candidate Jill Stein‘s effort to demand a recount in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, you may want to read the fine print on her website. So far, she has raised $4.8 million, but take a look at this little clause at the end of donation form:

        We cannot guarantee a recount will happen in any of these states we are targeting. We can only pledge we will demand recounts in those states.

        If we raise more than what’s needed, the surplus will also go toward election integrity efforts and to promote voting system reform.

    And interestingly, as more donations started pouring in over the holiday, Stein moved her total fundraising goal to $7 million. "

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/jill-stein-now-says-money-raised...

Gov No's picture

Didn't Jill warn the world that a Clinton presidency would lead to WW3 with Russia?  Of course, war with Russia would quickly escalate to mushroom clouds popping over American cities.  Does Jill have a death wish and therefore wants Hillary in the Oval Office?  

I recall that Assange claimed he has more email dirt on Hillary which he was going to release if she had won.  The death blow would have been released on Christmas day as a present for the American people.  So if Jill's recount reverses the election results, we could expect Assange to get back in the picture.

navy62802's picture

Something weird is obviously happening behind the scenes here. Stein may have been physically threatened and/or beaten up by DNC goons like Bernie was. Or she was conspiring with Clinton the entire time (less likely, IMO).

lala189's picture

Controlled opposition.  Perfected by the Soviets, and seemingly followed by the US political system.  Bernie, Stein, Clinton and that fuckwit in Utah.

Hata Mari's picture

I seem to recall (though I can't point to specifics) that her statements seemed to lean more Trump-ish during the latter weeks of the campaign. I remember because I seemed to be saying "hunh" an awful lot while reading articles about her. I see no value to this exercise, other than as a way to raise money. And I find it highly suspicious that the attorney fees kept going up with every 'milestone' reached.

dchang0's picture

Gives the "Green" Party a whole new meaning doesn't it?

Good move, Jill--totally destroying the credibility of the Green Party for generations to come.

neilhorn's picture

I hope they are able to discern the number of ballots that have been stuffed into the boxes since Nov 8.

navy62802's picture

Do these donations become public record?

ihatediscus's picture

So...........when is Jill moving into her new beachhouse??.................

KyttenX's picture

Can the states refuse to honor her request for a recount?

There is no way she could have won. At all. Look at her votes. So it's a complete waste of time to do a full recount, since there is no way Jill Stein can ever win.

It's one thing of queen Hillary wants a recount; that's fine. And if SHE requests it, I think that Trump should then request a recount in EVERY state that she won, since we know Democratic voter fraud is rampant.  Does the Democratic party really want to go there?

Stein is a Hillary shill, and this attempt to boost Hillary should be squashed. Michigan has already done a recount, and uses paper ballots. So hacking isn' an issue in that state.

Finally, can they do a recount that only counts STEIN's votes? That would throw a spanner in the works.

NotBuyingIt's picture

From what I understand, states can most definitely refuse to honor the request for a recount. Stein's fundraising site says that if they cannot do recounts, the money will go toward "ensuring voting integrity". At least, that is what the site said 2 days ago. They apparently change the wording every few hours or so. It's a complete scam.

TRM's picture

Oh good so they'll give the money to Bev Harris at blackboxvoting.org? Great idea. /sarc

 

DosZap's picture

Jill is the real victim here, after the recount, and if Hellary BUYS it, Jill will wind up 6' under in short order, is SHE too STUID tp relaize that?.

NO witnesses or collude-rs will be allowed to live except the1/10 of 1%Er's.

Feel it Reel it's picture

Is Aruthur Andersen accounting firm doing Jill Stein's books on this new found money??

Bloodstock's picture

Evidently Jill Stein has raised more money in the last 24 hours than she did for her entire campaign. What does that tell you?

Polyvinyl Chloridex's picture

According to FEC.gov Stein raised only $3 million for her whole campaign.  They want us to believe the grassroots donated $4.6 million for her recount.  Yeah right!

Shhh dont wake the VIX's picture

"I'm sorry folks, but apparently recounting all those goddamn votes will leave a carbon footprint that could hasten global warming and we are going to need another $12 million or so to plant some bullshit trees or something like that".  

Quickwahay's picture

Al Franken is on his way with a trunk full of ballots, he'll need a few mil to cover gas expenses.

JuicedGamma's picture

Fuck Al, he wasn't funny in 70s and he is a dick now.

crzyhun's picture

I wonder... who is managing these $$$s. OK it is for a recount but can anyone tell me how deep in the hole this Stein is for her so called capmpaign??? R33ks! 

Dog Will Hunt's picture

TrumpSuckers: best lot of sore winners in history.

Sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp 

Hata Mari's picture

Actually, it's making a mockery of our already corrupt voting system. Michigan proves that.

Gadfly's picture

There is only one devil I know with this kind of money to waste – Rothschild.

IronForge's picture

Guess Jill Stein has rolled over the "Green Party" to Greenback Peddlers.

lala189's picture

Recount now underway.

 

Wisconsin Elections Commission Receives Two Presidential Election Recount Petitions Date: 

 November 25, 2016

MADISON, WI – The Wisconsin Elections Commission today received two recount petitions from the Jill Stein for President Campaign and from Rocky Roque De La Fuente, Administrator Michael Haas announced.

“The Commission is preparing to move forward with a statewide recount of votes for President of the United States, as requested by these candidates,” Haas said.

“We have assembled an internal team to direct the recount, we have been in close consultation with our county clerk partners, and have arranged for legal representation by the Wisconsin Department of Justice,” Haas said. “We plan to hold a teleconference meeting for county clerks next week and anticipate the recount will begin late in the week after the Stein campaign has paid the recount fee, which we are still calculating.” 

The last statewide recount was of the Supreme Court election in 2011.  At that time, the Associated Press surveyed county clerks and reported that costs to the counties exceeded $520,000, though several counties did not respond to the AP’s survey.  That election had 1.5 million votes, and Haas said the Commission expects the costs to be higher for an election with 2.975 million votes.  “The Commission is in the process of obtaining cost estimates from county clerks so that we can calculate the fee which the campaigns will need to pay before the recount can start,” Haas said.  The Commission will need to determine how the recount costs will be assessed to the campaigns. 

The state is working under a federal deadline of December 13 to complete the recount. As a result, county boards of canvassers may need to work evenings and weekends to meet the deadlines. “The recount process is very detail-oriented, and this deadline will certainly challenge some counties to finish on time,” Haas said.   

A recount is different than an audit and is more rigorous, Haas explained.  More than 100 reporting units across the state were randomly selected for a separate audit of their voting equipment as required by state law, and that process has already begun.  Electronic voting equipment audits determine whether all properly-marked ballots are accurately tabulated by the equipment.  In a recount, all ballots (including those that were originally hand counted) are examined to determine voter intent before being retabulated. In addition, the county boards of canvassers will examine other documents, including poll lists, written absentee applications, rejected absentee ballots, and provisional ballots before counting the votes. 

Haas noted that the Commission’s role is to order the recount, to provide legal guidance to the counties during the recount, and to certify the results.  If the candidates disagree with the results of the recount, the law gives them the right to appeal in circuit court within five business days after the recount is completed.  The circuit court is where issues are resolved that may be discovered during the recount but are not resolved to the satisfaction of the candidates. 

“Wisconsin has the most decentralized election system in the United States,” Haas said. “The system has strong local control coupled with state oversight, resting on the partnership between the Wisconsin Elections Commission, the 72 county clerks, and the 1,854 municipal clerks. State law clearly gives each county’s Board of Canvassers the primary authority to conduct the recount, and to decide which ballots should and should not be counted.  Recounting votes is an open, transparent process in which each of the candidates may have representatives present to raise objections, and where the public may be present to observe.” 

Official results from all 72 counties indicate the presidential candidates received the following vote totals:          

 

Total Votes Cast

2,975,313

Donald J. Trump

1,404,000

Hillary Clinton

1,381,823

johnwburns's picture

Soon it'll be time for a serious gut check because I assume that it'll be stolen. If not this way than by some other avenue. They will not complete a peaceful transfer of power. 

First phase will be lawyering up.

Second phase will be to see if all of the "civil wat II" swagger was just that because the beaners will be coming over the barricades.

Hata Mari's picture

Phase II wouldn't surprise me in the least. A few weeks ago the order came down from Obama to severely curtail border watch on one of the most congested illegal routes; last week (?) surprise order to curtail all border drone surveillance.

markar's picture

So Trump got over 60 million almost all legitimate votes. My back of the envelope calculation based on evidence put forth at this point is Hillary got maybe a little over 50 million. Whoever is behind all these efforts to overturn the election is bucking for a civil war. The way to win it is for every Trump voter to take $500( or more if they can afford it) out of their bank account and buy physical silver or gold with it. The whole rancid system comes crashing down without firing a shot.

johnwburns's picture

50 million vs the 64 million they are reporting. What numbers are you using?

markar's picture

Her official count is about 62.5 million.(not including MI which Trump just won by 10K) Back out 3 million illegals, 4 mil. dead, up to 100K felons, and countless machine vote flips from Trump to Clinton. She didn't get more than 52-54 million legitimate votes.

Davidduke2000's picture

WE do not count the dead and illegal aliens that voted for hillary. Trump has at least 6 to million more votes

Davidduke2000's picture

I prefer to shooting part.

Ventura Capitalist's picture

Yes. And the "evidence" for these cockroaches is, she did better in places with paper ballots than in places with electronic voting.

DUH. The Acorn/SEIU/AFSCAM insects cranked out thousands of fraudulent paper ballots. They couldn't hack into the machines.

And they are STILL creating phony paper ballots that will be slipped into the recount. 

This civil war is going to get bloody. 

 

AngelaE8654's picture

They won't be able to slip ballots in.  Trump's attorneys will be there observing everything that goes on; they will not have a chance to "slip in" any ballots.  Trust me on this.  Trump is too smart to allow them to pull this one over.

smrstars's picture

Call me clueless, but I have a question...conceding the election does not mean I give up, you win?

Hata Mari's picture

I always thought it did.

Ventura Capitalist's picture

The concession statement/announcement/ceremony is a legal nullity.

 

Ed Jobb's picture

But will it be enough to grease the palms of the vote counters?

Bribes are expensive these days.

Grandad Grumps's picture

Funny how she can get more donations for a Hillary recount than she can get for her own election. It is a vagina conspiracy. Those with vaginas are criminally complicit with others who have vaginas.

J Jason Djfmam's picture

NEVER trust a vagina!

There is no telling what it will do.

gsp9993's picture

The money is not the object    It's a gift from Dr. Evil.  The Trump challenge will come at  her weak justification.

Two points - the filer must have a solid justification that should be pursued.  The justification is the same as the New Yorker story.  Weak, feeble and lame.    No judge will let this proceed.  Democrats are historically committing voter fraud and it's a fact of life for them.   This outrageous claim is just that an unvalidated outrageous claim 

It will not pass the court system when Trump challenges.  Look for him to be on the Sunday poltical show to tell the world that he will not tolerate this insanity