Green Party Rebels Against Jill Stein: "We Do Not Support The Recount"

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In a letter penned by Green Party Senate Candidate Margaret Flowers, and signed by dozens of prominent GPUS members, the Greens have rebelled against the farcical "recount effort" conducted by Jill Stein, saying "while we support electoral reforms, including how the vote is counted, we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein."

The reason for this is that as the author notes, "as a candidate, Dr. Stein has the right to call for a recount. However, we urge the GPUS to distance itself from any appearance of support for either Democrats or Republicans. We are well aware of the undemocratic actions taken during the primaries by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party."

Flowers points out that the decision to pursue a recount "was not made in a democratic or a strategic way, nor did it respect the established decision making processes and structures of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS).  The recount has created confusion about the relationship between the Green and Democratic parties because the states chosen for the recount are only states in which Hillary Clinton lost. There were close races in other states such as New Hampshire and Minnesota where Clinton won, but which were not part of the recount. And this recount does not address the disenfranchisement of voters; it recounts votes that were already counted rather than restoring the suffrage of voters who were prevented from voting."

In the letter Flowers also makes a case for pushing with electoral college reform and demanding transformative changes which remain impossible under the current political structure:

"The Green Party cannot build the political power necessary for the transformative changes we need by allying with two capitalist parties that serve the interests of the wealthy. That is why it is imperative that the Green Party is independent of those parties. We stay independent to give people an alternative to the corruption of two money-based parties. Greens reject donations from corporations and their political action committees to ensure we are accountable to the people and so that the people’s agenda is not superseded by the corporate agenda."

The letter slamming Stein follows a similar reaction by various prominent Democrats who have also accused Stein of engaging in a "time wasting scam."

In light of the rising tide of opposition against Stein's "effort" from all sides, including her own party, it is unclear how much longer this allegedly "crowdfunded" effort will persist.

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Full letter below:

Greens Speak Out on Recount and Our Commitment to an Independent Party

We write to reaffirm our commitment to building a Green Party that has a radical analysis of the society in which we live, and promotes bold solutions to transform our society and address the root causes of those crises; a Green Party that is independent of the two money-dominated parties.

There is a deep social crisis in the US. This crisis manifests in countless ways. One of its central manifestations is through the political system. People have legitimate concerns about the electoral system, which is manipulated through wholesale voter disenfranchisement, massive voter suppression and the racist and undemocratic historical logic of the Electoral College. In all fifty states, voters from poor and marginalized communities, especially Black people and other communities of color, have their votes suppressed and are excluded from participation through various practices.

The Green Party cannot build the political power necessary for the transformative changes we need by allying with two capitalist parties that serve the interests of the wealthy. That is why it is imperative that the Green Party is independent of those parties. We stay independent to give people an alternative to the corruption of two money-based parties. Greens reject donations from corporations and their political action committees to ensure we are accountable to the people and so that the people’s agenda is not superseded by the corporate agenda.

There are significant electoral reforms needed to make elections more democratic and more representative of the people. While we support electoral reforms, including how the vote is counted, we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein.

The decision to pursue a recount was not made in a democratic or a strategic way, nor did it respect the established decision making processes and structures of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS).  The recount has created confusion about the relationship between the Green and Democratic parties because the states chosen for the recount are only states in which Hillary Clinton lost. There were close races in other states such as New Hampshire and Minnesota where Clinton won, but which were not part of the recount. And this recount does not address the disenfranchisement of voters; it recounts votes that were already counted rather than restoring the suffrage of voters who were prevented from voting.

As a candidate, Dr. Stein has the right to call for a recount. However, we urge the GPUS to distance itself from any appearance of support for either Democrats or Republicans. We are well aware of the undemocratic actions taken during the primaries by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party.

We remain committed to the Green Party’s four pillars and ten key values, which have at their foundation grassroots democracy. We urge the GPUS to prioritize its efforts on building our party from the bottom up, working and organizing in direct solidarity with our state and local parties and alongside and in defense of the rights of those most affected by the injustices of a capitalist, white supremacist and undemocratic system. This includes support for local efforts to prevent the disenfranchisement of people of color via voter suppression or because of felony convictions and to be more inclusive and participatory in our decision-making processes and work.

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VladLenin's picture

Greens...democrats... they're all dangerous socialists.

InjectTheVenom's picture

Jill : please go away. Better luck next time. 

Beam Me Up Scotty's picture

"...rather than restoring the suffrage of voters who were prevented from voting."

Oh please Jill.  If you have a fucking pulse you can vote in this country.  Hell, even if you DON'T have a pulse you can vote in this country.  How about you restore the meaning of the REAL voters and their votes in this country by working to eliminate voter FRAUD???  Paper ballots, photo ID.  And you don't get to vote if you aren't a CITIZEN of this country either.  I'm tired of my vote being diluted by people who shouldn't be voting.

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

If her own party does not support her, then it begs the question:

Whom does she serve?

Herself?

George Soros?

The_Juggernaut's picture

She's going to cash in like any other bullshit celebrity, and why not?

MagicHandPuppet's picture

"Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party."

Too late, snowflakes!

bamawatson's picture

greens are perceived as limp wrist losers
in All walks of life
ahahahahahaha

drive a gas guzzling 8 cylinder
and eat read meat

Ghost of PartysOver's picture

Grrens are nothing more than a subsection of the Dems.

Stuck on Zero's picture

Greens don't seem to believe in their own dogma.

SafelyGraze's picture

dear "libertarian" "party" --

the green party is doing what you should have done.

 

caconhma's picture

Dear "libertarian" party is a socialist wing of Republican Party.

This is another reason they are silent about the recount.

PrayingMantis's picture

... something's telling me that this scam-PAC recunt will be Jill's permanently notorious stein, err stain, on her otherwise ignominious wannabe-run for POTUS ...

   ... and to rub more salt on those generous and tearful snowflakes' gaping "loser" wounds (with their now empty loser pockets, as well), the retards just made Jill Stain, err Stein a multi-millionaire pocketing almost $7M which might even be tax-free ...

beemasters's picture

As they say, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

I believe her purpose is well-intended, but the consequences for her and the rest may not be that appealing. Still, I think Soros and Hillary have pushed her into the fire; they are the experts in manipulation.

jcaz's picture

What "undemocratic actions", specifically???? 

So there's a list that you didn't bother telling the "folks"?

Never too late to share.....

revjimbeam's picture

the republican party is the socialist wing of the republican party.

the libertarians worshipped false messiahs this cycle.

TheABaum's picture

Can't. Johnson is still trying to figure out where Aleppo and his stash are located. 

J Jason Djfmam's picture

Loosers looking for an escape goat.

cbxer55's picture

Drive a really gas guzzling 8 cylinder with a roots blower on top. I do. ;-)

I like red meat, but due to kidney stones, have to consume it in moderation. Otherwise, Hell yeah!!!!

You forgot to mention guns. Have em, use em, keep em clean and lubed. And stock some damn good ammo!

auricle's picture

About time. Cut funding to her. 

CheapBastard's picture

Stein screwing her party, one member at a time while lining her pockets with $$$$.

Now people think the Green party supports Hitlery's blood thirsty wars, banker bailouts, TTP, and other platforms that destroy both the middle class and poor Americans.

TheABaum's picture

The Greens are to the Democrats what CentOs is to Red Hat Enterprise Linux. It's where the left tries out its goofiest ideas in a contained space that doesn't affect any mission critical servers. 

JRobby's picture

A fool without a country!!!

Maybe "The Foundation" will hire her?

mccvilb's picture

Back fourteen years ago I started the re-registration process to switch from Republican to fuck-you Independent and very nearly registered with the Green Party. The Commonwealth of Massachusetts form in the fine print said Independents were considered the Green Party, while true Independents were listed as "Others". Every time I see Stein and the Green Party in the same sentence I wonder how many Greens have no clue they unwittingly registered in the GP.

TeamDepends's picture

Why not? Because she hasn't EARNED anything. People are sick and fucking tired of handouts being pulled out of their pockets going to undeserving people.

Syrin's picture

My dad voted republican until the day he died.   He's voted democrat ever since.

HalinCA's picture

Very good.  I will steal it ...

 

:-)

detached.amusement's picture

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/11/28/495554/Complaint-alleges-perjury...

 

Green party journalist and radio host Don DeBar alleges that the false statements may have induced the state to fraudulently conduct a recount and caused thousands of people to donate a reported sum of $6 million to Stein's effort. DeBar has filed a lawsuit for fraud and perjury against Jill Stein.

youngman's picture

Yes...follow the money...you could just see it as she raised the limits every time she hit it....greed pure and simple....and Greenies have it too....it will all go to her expenses...lol

Secret Weapon's picture

Just wondering if she was in the hole financially from the campaign and if so, can she use the re-count money to pay off her bills?  Anyone? 

Raffie's picture

So when is she going to give the money back again? LOL

Rey dTutto's picture

If we can find out who funded her --> follow th money

Manipulism's picture

How come a leader of a party can do watever she will without consent or permission with the party?

Is this normal in the USA?

So all partyleaders are Erdogans?

Just asking.

s2man's picture

She is not the party leader. But, as a presidential candidate she can request a recount.

Ex-Oligarch's picture

Yes. The contents of the letter are total nonsense and are not worth serious discussion.

The real questions are why the Green insiders are backing away from Stein, and of course why Stein launched this recount campaign in the first place.

In the cheesy TV movie version, our heroine isn't just cashing in on a final publicity and fundraising opportunity, but actually has information to show widespread democratic party voting corruption. She has a secret plan! However, she doesn't want to be Arkancided, so she seeks recounts only in states that Trump won, and pitches the effort to disappointed democrat voters. The murderous Clinton machine threatens her, the dim-witted and cowardly Green insiders betray her, but she perseveres.  The resulting revelations weaken the DNC apparat and send already disenchanted democrat voters racing for the exits and into the welcoming arms of the Greens. The nation is saved, and society transforms to a Jeffersonian democracy of multi-culti organic collective farms. Roll credits.

No, I don't buy it either.

Holy hand grenade of Antioch's picture

"If her own party does not support her, then it begs the question:

Whom does she serve?"

 

That should be pretty obvious. Meanwhile...

 

free francis_sawyer (who was the only one with enough guts to point this all out a half a decade ago & get ridiculed for it)

TeamDepends's picture

So the EC is "racist and undemocratic" because it protects country and small-city folks from big-city tyranny, eh? Green logic at its finest.

War Machine's picture

'Paul Krugman Illustrates The Damaged Political Psyches Of The Left

The election damaged the political psyche of liberals in ways that it will probably take a while for us to understand'

http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/24/paul-krugman-illustrates-the-damaged...

awww....

HopefulCynical's picture

From the article: "But the Left seems to be taking it the hardest, and this is perfectly exemplified by Paul Krugman, a genuinely brilliant fellow..."

AAAANNNDDD we're done here. PFFFFT.

War Machine's picture

'Paul Krugman Illustrates The Damaged Political Psyches Of The Left

The election damaged the political psyche of liberals in ways that it will probably take a while for us to understand'

http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/24/paul-krugman-illustrates-the-damaged...

awww....

War Machine's picture

'Paul Krugman Illustrates The Damaged Political Psyches Of The Left

The election damaged the political psyche of liberals in ways that it will probably take a while for us to understand'

http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/24/paul-krugman-illustrates-the-damaged...

awww....

Arnold's picture

Mentioning the Krugger three posts in a row, is way out of bounds.

Ex-Oligarch's picture

... unless required by banishment ritual.

also, lest we forget,

FUCK YOU KRUGMAN.

rwe2late's picture

Beam back down Scotty

" If you have a fucking pulse you can vote"

But that's not true

"felons" of Prohibition II, the so-called "war on drugs"are barred from voting in many places.

Also barred are "gun control" felons, political dissident "felons',

incarcerated whistleblowers, etc.

There is also the "primary" & nomination  process where voters are prevented from choosing the candidates to begin with.

Ex-Oligarch's picture

He meant de facto, you and the Greens mean de jure,

n'est ce pas?

Akzed's picture

I think the voters have suffraged enough already.

City_Of_Champyinz's picture

I am enjoying the circular firing squad that is developing.  What a bunch of douchebags...

onewayticket2's picture

They still dont get it.....the green party doesnt care about THEM!  

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

This was a smart move by the Greens, because Stein's recount scam will otherwise destroy the Green Party -- which would be the REAL BENEFIT to the DNC: No party to bleed votes from the DNC.

The GOP has the same problem with the Libertarian Party, but has been able to overcome their challenge, by bringing most of their values, views and voters under the Trump umbrella.

Arnold's picture

I always wondered for the past two minutes,

why they self identify as Greens, instead of the more accurate Reds.