Obamacare Repeal Clears First Hurdle

Tyler Durden's picture

And so it begins...The Republican plan to repeal Obamacare overcame its first procedural hurdle in the Senate this afternoon by a vote of 51-48.

However, as Bloomberg reports, lawmakers made clear - following a morning meeting with Vice President-elect Mike Pence - that any replacement plan is at least months away.

The Senate voted 51-48 this afternoon to proceed to the resolution, S. Con. Res. 3, which would set up a filibuster-proof process, ensuring the chamber’s consideration of legislation repealing parts of Obamacare and replacing it, either as one bill or as separate measures.

 

The 54-page document, unveiled yesterday by Budget Chairman Mike Enzi, directs committees of jurisdiction to come up with Affordable Care Act legislation by Jan. 27, meaning a repeal bill could be to Donald Trump’s desk by the end February, lawmakers said today.

 

The House Ways and Means and Energy and Commerce as well as the Senate Finance and Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committees are charged with drafting the legislation.

 

Senate action came as Obama and Pence both headed to the Capitol to meet with their respective parties to discuss efforts to preserve or undo the health-care law.

House Ways and Means Chairman Kevin Brady of Texas said that an
Obamacare replacement proposal would be laid out on a step-by-step basis
and could be fully written by the August recess.

The White House was quick to respond:

  • *EARNEST SAYS SENATE BUDGET VOTE BY `PRETTY NARROW MARGIN'
  • *EARNEST: EASY TO CAMPAIGN ON ACA REPEAL, HARD TO DO AND OWN IT
  • *EARNEST: REPEALING AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT
  • *EARNEST:THOSE REPEALING OBAMACARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSUING CHAOS

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UndergroundPost's picture

This is what Socialism unraveling feels like. Happy New Year!

Looney's picture

 

Dismantling 0bama’s “legacy” one turd at a time!   ;-)

Looney

froze25's picture

Tear the bandaid off and deal with the TEMPORARY pain.

Ledlak's picture

America survived without Obamacare for more than 200 years. What chaos?

swmnguy's picture

Well, there was the ongoing collapse of the healthcare finance system, which was why Nixon introduced HMO plans, the insurance industry hired the Heritage Institute to write what we now call ObamaCare in 1990, and why Obama saw the need to bail out his benefactors in the insurance industry with this abomination of a bill in the first place.

Every one of the GOP's proposed solutions is a cruel joke.  Competition across state lines?  Outlawed by the McCarran-Ferguson Act of 1947, which the insurance companies will stop at nothing to defend.  Eliminating lawsuits for malpractice?  A drop in the bucket financially, which will do nothing but give incompetent docs even more impunity.  Eliminating the individual mandate?  That's the only way any of this remains economically viable for the insurance companies.

The GOP is going to find themselves right where the Democrats would be, or any party in charge right now.  They'll have no options at all except to open Medicare to everyone and relegate private insurance companies to supplemental policies like every other developed nation on Earth, and come up with some song-and-dance explanation why that isn't "Socialism."

Otherwise, they'll collapse a sector that's 20% of the economy, to score some partisan points.  This has gone well beyond ideology as it's collapsed over the past 40 years.  Now it's a matter of math.

NewHugh's picture

Well evidently Obama"Care" hasn't fixed your Diarrhea as evidenced by the fact-deficient shit you dropped here.

Fathead Slim's picture
Fathead Slim (not verified) swmnguy Jan 4, 2017 4:54 PM

The 'ongoing collapse of the healthcare finance system' was every bit as real as Nixon's 'Energy Crisis'. Nixon was the salesman for one raid on the public wallet after another.

That kind of shit is what the old line GOP did best. They are mercantilist to the core. The "healthcare industry" needs to be collapsed. There's no fucking reason on earth for medical care to be 20% of the economy.

red1chief's picture

Medicare for all would collapse much of the private greedy health insurance companies. $20K per year for a family policy, which pays for lots of staff to find a way to deny clams and pay mega-millions to the a holes running the thing.

francis scott falseflag's picture

 

 

"except to open Medicare to everyone"

 

This does nothing unless they force every doctor to accept medicare limits.

red1chief's picture

They won't need to, most doctors will accept to get the business. So much would be saved by cutting out the private insurers there would be plenty to reimburse the doctors more. We have the most expensive heathcare system in the world, with mediocre outcomes.

red1chief's picture

You are spot on but I don't think we will get Medicare for all as you suggested. This would be much cheaper and better overall coverage for everyone. Look at all the downvotes you got, the sheep are so brainwashed they will go down with the ship.

TeethVillage88s's picture

Hey, you smell that.

I smell something bad. I think it is a Banana republic burning.

Trump is going to put it out I guess.

detached.amusement's picture

Repeal?  It should be straight up nullified, since it was not passed in a constitutionally rigorous fashion to begin with. 

Obamacare was out of order, SCOTUS cannot write law and then have the president sign it, which was what we saw happen with obamacare.

Darktarra's picture

Congratulaations AMERICA!!! 

TheFreeLance's picture

Prepare for GREAT dissapointment. GOP Senate loves the must-issue provisions for its blue-hair donor class.

wren's picture

All the poor people with kids will soon realize that their child tax credits are getting eaten away by the penalties for the insurance they haven't been able to sign up for due to lack of transportation, laziness, whatever. Those that are still supporting it will lose their desire support the Dem's as soon as it hits their pocketbook.

DaveA's picture

As a poor person with kids, I thought this would happen, but the tax prep software informed me that because my kids are on Medicaid and I would be too if my state had accepted Obama's Medicaid expansion, I would pay no penalty and receive the full child tax credit. Gotta say, America's the greatest place in the world to be poor!

buzzsaw99's picture

nothing, literally nothing, would be preferable to the aca.

aardvarkk's picture

Literally nothing would be preferable to ANY government plan.

FrankDrakman's picture

Earnest says:

Earnest says:

Earnest says:

 

KnowhattImean, Vern? 

Skiprrrdog's picture

Earnest says: "I'm with stupid"...and bawwk, bawwk, Earnest want a cracker...

buzzsaw99's picture

allow me to elaborate, when i say nothing i mean no plan, ever, no replacement, just zero, would be better than what we have now which is nothing, except it is A FUCKING DAMN EXPENSIVE NOTHING.

True Blue's picture

Don't replace -just repeal.

E.F. Mutton's picture

Prepare for a bunch of "Little Timmy" ads from the Left.

"Little Timmy has a rare disease, and his Black Gay Immigrant Parents couldn't afford regular healthcare....now Trump is taking it away"

MANvsMACHINE's picture

Good.  I never liked Little Timmy or his parents.

Gead's picture

Simple cure for "Little Timmy" - take him for a good time to Comet Pizza.

vegas's picture

Sure hope that disgusting bag of shit known as Harry Reid is enjoying this from a brothel in Searchlight, Nevada. My advice to Repubs; listen to nothing they say, make fun of them when you can, steamroll them at every opportunity, and never ever stop reminding them this is what they did when Chalky was Preezy. Marginalize the shit out of them and tell Chuck U. Shumer to go fuck himself.

 

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paint it red call it hell's picture

Brothel? You surely meant rest room stall at the greyhound bus station.

Skiprrrdog's picture

Thats how he injued his eye; a miscalculation with trajectory in the toilets glory-hole...

TeethVillage88s's picture

You mean Harry Reid.

I guess I'll have to read up the page.

lol

BigWillyStyle87's picture
BigWillyStyle87 (not verified) Jan 4, 2017 1:44 PM
  • *EARNEST: EASY TO CAMPAIGN ON ACA REPEAL, HARD TO DO AND OWN

Hmmmmmm well thats not necessarilly true when repealing Obamacare was the biggest platform that WON them an election. Seems to me that if democracy really is as wonderful as they say it is, then more people would be pleased with the repeal than would be unhappy over it. Did i miss something?

Ol Man's picture

First thing that needs to go is the "mandatory" requirement to have healthcare insurance.  This would not affect the system in any other way than to re-introduce competition for healthcare, thereby lowering costs to consumers.

red1chief's picture

No, it means I pay when you get sick. Ok, no mandate, but when you get sick they can loan you onto a gurney and dump you in the street.

VWAndy's picture

  I wonder if the general population even can grok just how expensive this level of stupid is.

Skiprrrdog's picture

Repeal NO replacement. Turn back the healthcare clock to 2007 or so, and then GO AWAY, Uncle Sham; .gov has NO BUSINESS being involved in OUR healthcare....

Yes We Can. But Lets Not.'s picture

Gubmint - no business in healthcare...mortgages...student loans...spying on citizens...electronic voting...institutionalized racism/affirmative action...limiting peoples' rights to defend themselves...

aardvarkk's picture

That's what I don't get.  Why the hell do we NEED to have .gov holding our hands all the time?  For 95% of the history of this country people were able to figure it out without .gov pushing us around.

They SHOULD look at the things that .gov DOES have something to do with.  Get rid of the ban on interstate competition between health insurers.  That has no legitimate function.  Do some tort reform to vastly reduce defensive medicine.  Maybe reform the patent laws so these piggish executives can't arbitrarily hike a drug 700% without fear of losing market share.  There are probably a couple of others.  Do those, and otherwise stay the hell out of the way.  Preferably permanently.

True Blue's picture

I'd say that the simplest way to reform medicinal patents would be to give the patent holder lifetime royalties of say 15% -but anyone can manufacture it.

aardvarkk's picture

Interesting idea.  Though I wouldn't want the patent-holder to have ANY power over setting price.

WillyGroper's picture

how about the 70's, when you could afford to pay out of pocket for the doc/script out of ur pocket & insurance was only involved in a major medical catastrophe?

the parasites, insurance=banking is what trashed medical.

once they stuck their nose in, the freeloaders learned how to skim the system thru employers, all while getting paid while not working.

many will scream torte...they've not been maimed by the self policing incompetants.

aardvarkk's picture

Loser pays.  If you REALLY feel you have a good case, you probably do and if so the defendant will pay.  Right now lots of people are just throwing shit to see if it sticks.  Doesn't cost them anything, why not?  My brother in law does prosthetics and orthotics.  He has been sued dozens, maybe hundreds of times over the last 30 years or so.  Not once did he lose or even come close.  He does, however, have to pay hundreds of thousands in malpractice insurance.  Which gets passed on to his customers.  And he does LOTS of unnecessary testing, re-measuring, etc. which ALSO gets passed on to his customers.  Many of whom are disabled vets, whose bills are paid by us.

So yeah, tort.  I will trust the system to protect those who have the wrong foot taken off or something long before I'll put up with the current load of horseshit.

WillyGroper's picture

Sabolich?

it's the parasitic malpractice insurance sucking him dry.

tort/torte is the cake eaten by the damaged after paying of the judge...if they win.  no pay, no play.

all players are gaming the system & as usual it's the honest guy that pays.

i cannot imaging suing someone that fitted me for a prosthesis for a chance at a semi normal life.  a person like that should be flogged with it.

problem with the wrong foot being taken off...they've monitised the worth of every body part & that's what you'll get paid.  so if you work with your hands for a living, which is more valuable to you...the foot or the hand?  matters not to tptb.

prices subject to vary.

True Blue's picture

I cannot imagine anyone having any real cause to sue a prosthetist (and I have a prosthetic leg) I mean -that is like suing the person who sold you a pair of shoes. Why any court would even listen to such an argument is asinine, but what isn't today -hey? (If only it had been a hand instead of my leg, I'd be the vastly reassuring "Capt. Hook -ObGyN" right now...)

corporatewhore's picture

just make it workable and affordable and no bureaucratic bullshit.

paint it red call it hell's picture

That's what I'm talking about, get on with it.

Repeal the shit and have it on obolo's desk the night of the 19th for Trump to sign on the 20th.

BigDawgz's picture

The whole health insurance issue could be easily solved by opening up people's/employers right to purchase health insurance across state lines.  You found a better price for insurance in North Dakota but you live in Arkansas?  That's great!  You should be able to purchase at the lower price in the other state.  Until we're allowed to do that, there will never be TRUE competition in health care insurance and the American public will continue to get raped because of it.

ne14truth's picture

Everything you are saying it true....but reducing my health care by a 100 bucks a month from 1200 to 1100 is not going to change my life any at all.....the reason health care is so expensive is the INS industry itself....it wont do much to get with another insurance company.....it will totaly change everything to remove all INS companies from our country, all of them, its a scam and you know it is.....auto, health, home, life...its all a scam we all know it.....very few people say thank god I had insurance...most bitch about how after paying in for years the ins scammed their way out of paying.......INS is a SCAM for %99 of the people and it is entirely responsible for the high prices that make people think they NEED ins because they cannot afford to get sick without it...the INS created this concept, they are smart people...get the prices so high no one can afford to not be insured...duh. The problem is not what state you get your ins from.....its is the ins existing at all.

ne14truth's picture

Everything you are saying it true....but reducing my health care by a 100 bucks a month from 1200 to 1100 is not going to change my life any at all.....the reason health care is so expensive is the INS industry itself....it wont do much to get with another insurance company.....it will totaly change everything to remove all INS companies from our country, all of them, its a scam and you know it is.....auto, health, home, life...its all a scam we all know it.....very few people say thank god I had insurance...most bitch about how after paying in for years the ins scammed their way out of paying.......INS is a SCAM for %99 of the people and it is entirely responsible for the high prices that make people think they NEED ins because they cannot afford to get sick without it...the INS created this concept, they are smart people...get the prices so high no one can afford to not be insured...duh. The problem is not what state you get your ins from.....its is the ins existing at all.