Trump Warns Germany "Owes Vast Sums To US... Must Be Paid For Defense"

Tyler Durden's picture

Amid #NoHandshakeGate and the "we have something in common" moment, yesterday's meeting between President Trump and German Chancellor Merkel was at best cordial, judging by the G-20 discussions, and this latest tweet from Trump...

Of course this is not the first time he has pointed this out... NATO, he said, “has problems.”

“[NATO] is obsolete, first because it was designed many, many years ago,” Bild quoted Trump as saying about the trans-Atlantic military alliance. “Secondly, countries aren’t paying what they should” and NATO “didn’t deal with terrorism.”


While those comments expanded on doubts Trump raised about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization during his campaign, he reserved some of his most dismissive remarks for the EU and Merkel, whose open-border refugee policy he called a “catastrophic mistake.”

FACT CHECK: Trump is 100% Correct - Germany has been under-funding its defense budget for years... NATO's 28-member countries committed in 2014 to spending 2 percent of their gross domestic product on defense within a decade. But only the U.S. and four other members of the post-World War II military coalition are meeting the standard, Pence said.

Failure to meet the commitment, he said, "erodes the very foundation of our alliance."

"Let me be clear on this point: The president of the United States expects our allies to keep their word, to fulfill this commitment and, for most, that means the time has come to do more," Pence said.

More awkward looks to come...

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shovelhead's picture

We should tell Turkey to take the whole place back. Give those ragheads something to cry about.

The look on Netanyahu's face would be worth it.

Ignorance is bliss's picture

Oil and by extension everything else would be a lot more expensive if the U.S. didn't interfere. The petro Dollar would have collapsed under Bush Jr. these guys are A-holes but realize that they are maintaining the U.S. Petro Dollar standard with this intervention. I don't advocate the crime, but I at least understand the motive.

trader1's picture

just like the American people expect Trump to keep his commitment to draining the SWAMP!!!!



Kellyanne's husband getting a nice position in the DOJ....


God, I love me some nepotism in the morning!



DingleBarryObummer's picture

If you like your government Sachs, you can keep your government Sachs.

Obama 3rd term, Bush 5th term, Goldman sachs 9th term.

crossroaddemon's picture

As near as I can tell we are in the 37th year of the Reagan administration.

TheLastTrump's picture

That's great, finally someone in the DOJ besides Sessions that can be trusted not to stab the president in his back.


Fuck your nepotism. Go collect your jism sample from the mulatto guy who cuts your check.

DingleBarryObummer's picture

TheLastTrump is MillionDollarBonus' new account.  Don't mind him. 

Ignorance is bliss's picture

What did you expect? Trump has only been in office 3 months. Did you expect the powerful deep state, military industrial complex, and their wealthy allies to be swept away in 3 months? Seriously? Don't you see the conflicts between Trump and the TPTB? They are two opponents circling looking to strike death blows.

trader1's picture

one could only hope that Trump might be inclined to save the poor man from getting fucked over by the corporate elite the last 40 years...

nah, fuck it.  let's just burn the entire system down.




DieSocialJusticeWankers's picture

...or someonone you can trust...TRUST nigger!!!!

moorewasthebestbond's picture

Of course Greece spends over 2% ... after being butt-raped in WWII and having to deal with Turkey's bullshit ever since.

az_patriot's picture

We have NO reason whatsoever to bear the cost of defending a country (Germany) which, at the hands of the globalist Merkel, is in the process of destroying itself.  While Germany is allowing virtually limitless "immigrants" from third world shitholes to infest their country, destroy their culture, destabilize their infrastructure, and threaten its citizens, we're supposed to provide them with military defense -- and using money we've already borrowed to begin with?  Hell -- we should pull out immediately.

Dilluminati's picture

I don't care what they do in Germany as long as they meet their agreed upon requirements to maintain Nato.

I look at the circumstances and think: well if they see it as a priority to fund immigration and not their self defense that is their choice as a democracy.

I see nato as a breached contract.



az_patriot's picture

Yeah, the NATO mess as well. 

TheLastTrump's picture

So does your President!!!! >>> "I see nato as a breached contract."

TheLastTrump's picture

no shit


bring them all home, give Germany a few nukes to keep Russia at bay

Dilluminati's picture

Truth is that Germany doesn't even bother buying guns any longer.

Germany ‘Can’t Explain’ Use of Broomsticks Instead of Guns in NATO Exercise

Let me be clear I support the USA, support America, want America first policies, would like better relations with Germany.

But can we please stop pretending that Germany is pulling their fair weight in economics and in militray alliances?

We have cut active brigades and our readiness to historic lows, we have pink slipped soldiers in the US and if there is a need to confront putin or any other emergency Germany instead of meet it's agreed upon obligations to the United States instead has other priorities.

It isn't what was agreed upon, looks like a lie told to Obama that Trump is calling out.

Obama told the US public lies about the Nato alliance, liberals swore to it, and germany shows up at Nato exercises with broomsticks to sweep away the truth!

Meanwhile we are told there isn't any money in our retirement accounts.

I blame Merkel and Obama


Whopper Goldberg's picture

There are 6000 German companies doing business in Russia ,

Russia is going to be the leader in NON GMO farming soon,

But the USA simply won't allow the US dollar to not be the worlds reserve currency,.

Dilluminati's picture

Fine let Merkel and Mitterand trade away Europe peacefully.

The agreement was Minsk II

Our dollar based on our oil, our food, our tech, our manufacturing will be fine. 

Did I forget to mention natural gas?

I don't know where this narrative where the US is soft on Russia or isssh started, probably by the democrats and liberals who have closer ties to Putin than meet the eye, and Obama and Merkel.. amazing what they did for Nato huh?

Meanwhile Georgia and Montenegro want the US to extend Nato protection and Germany surrenders Ukraine and then pimps admission of these two?


It's the liberals who make the mess and then demand a conservatice clean it up.

Pay your dues!

Pay your dues!

Pay your dues!


post turtle saver's picture

it's funny watching these posts... it's obvious who the Euro / non US posters are because they always assume that the US doesn't have any natural resources for some fool reason... probably because their little shitbox country doesn't have any so they assume the same of the US...

if you think the US doesn't have vast reserves of natural resources sitting and waiting to pull Europe out of its next social experiment fuckup, you got another think coming... if you think Russia's resources are a counter to that when _it's US firms that have to go in and show them how to process those resources and provide the tech to do it_ then you DEFINITELY have another think coming...

everyone's worried about Germany and Russia getting cozy... it should be obvious from recent events that the Deep State is worried about the US and _Russia_ getting cozy... if that happens a large chunk of problems and their reason for existence dry up and blow away... THAT"S the battle you're seeing today... Trump and Tillerson are going to work to make this happen and, if they pull it off, they'll be hailed as political masterminds for centuries to come...

MEFOBILLS's picture

_it's US firms that have to go in and show them how to process those resources and provide the tech to do it


This comment is a conceit.  All technical advances are fleeting.  Advances can be sold or stolen, or copied.  Being a fast follower by copying is actually more economical than developing.

Sending over students to study in American colleges means that any technical advance is very short lived.  North Korea from a very small population base is able to figure out nuclear weapons.  Russia, which has a small population has some military technology that is MORE advanced than America's.  Is there any doubt that Japan could make robots, and military gear of the first order if they even halfway tried?  Are Germans stupid?  (Well they will be after they out breed with Muzzies.. but for now they are not stupid.)

post turtle saver's picture

it would blow your mind how far advanced the US and the West is vs. the tech found in Russia...

teaching other countries yesterday's commoditized techniques is smart, it frees us up to bring futuretech forward, faster... there's no conceit in that and, as we say in Texas, "it ain't braggin' if it's true"... besides, everyone wins...

JesusUp's picture

Fuck eu entirely --- Russia is the future

TheLastTrump's picture
captain-nemo Mar 18, 2017 10:13 AM

Germany can't afford to pay what they owe NATO and the US, because all their tax-money goes to support and keep happy the millions and millions of muslem immigrants.  

Kaeako's picture

The United States has what, 35 to 40 thousand troops in Germany? Nuclear weapons too, last I heard. Why? To defend Germany? From what? Perverse to call an occupation protection, particularly in this day and age.

TheLastTrump's picture

Let's get those 40k troops AND those fucking nukes & stick them right on the border with Mexico.




Young German girls raped in the streets and they do NOTHING. Despiccable.

Whopper Goldberg's picture

There are 6000 German companies doing business in Russia ,

Russia is going to be the leader in NON GMO farming soon,

But the USA simply won't allow the US dollar to not be the worlds reserve currency,.

captain-nemo's picture

Germany can't afford to pay what they owe NATO and the US, because all their tax-money goes to support and keep happy the millions and millions of muslem immigrants.  

juicy_bananas's picture

Ass, gas, or grass.  No one rides for free.

Whopper Goldberg's picture

So stop pushing your protection racket on Europe.

You wanted it, so you pay for it.  NO one begged the USA to control Europe.

TheLastTrump's picture

Liar. The EU were just whining about President Trump making them pay their fair share.


The reality is that the US shouldn't pay a dime for the defense of the EU, and neither should we once again come save your sorry disarmed asses when you get them in a sling again.  


We've already saved your sad sack limp dick EU poodle asses FUCKING TWICE so you don't get to take any shots at AMERI*CANS*

Whopper Goldberg's picture

Fuck off you fuckign Americunt faggot coward.

The USA started those wars as a pretext to control Europe.

You are vermin

shovelhead's picture


What an idiot. All you Euros are to Us are just Puerto Ricans with different accents. Welfare cases.

TheLastTrump's picture

See there's your huge military spending savings RIGHT THERE.


Good for the USA, bad for the chiseling EU. Tell me again why the US is contributing so much AND THE MOST to a European defense organization?


We reduce our spending by almost half as they double theirs, or more.


Yes I know WWII blah blah blah. That was 70 years ago, you EU ewe were supposed to grow the fuck up.

Whopper Goldberg's picture

So stop pushing your protection racket on Europe.

You wanted it, so you pay for it.  NO one begged the USA to control Europe.

Whopper Goldberg's picture

We have 21st century infrastructure while yours is crumbling.

it was the USA that decided to spend TRILLIONS in Afghanistan and Iraq

So STFU you worthless son of a bitch.

post turtle saver's picture

oh kiss my ass... I'll bet my US butt has been to Europe way more than your ass has been to the US... quit believing what you read in the papers about the US, it's all wrong... our stuff is easily just as good if not utterly better in every way... hell, well over half of the '21st century' infrastructre you're crowing about was _invented_ in the USA...

Europe... all hat, no cattle

Whopper Goldberg's picture

I lived 35 years in the USA and did 10 years in the USAF.  I have been to 76 countries and lived in 5 of them so you would LOSE

Here is my DD214. notice my birthplace.  where I am living NOW

post turtle saver's picture

lies and bullshit... I expect nothing less from you... typical internet tough guy

Whopper Goldberg's picture

Pure bullshit.   the automobile , the Jet engine, t he autobahn, and the WWW all invented in Europe.

You are a know nothing idiot.

bornlastnight's picture

The WWW was invented by Al Gore of the USA.  Everybody knows that.  If you don't believe me, ask ole Al.

post turtle saver's picture

call me when there's a Euro flag on the moon and you are typing your pathetic mewlings on tech that wasn't invented in the USA... I have to say in your case, when the weak minded rave this much it's impressive... fucking stolen valor loser

logicalman's picture

Where was Von Braun from?

A huge number of those who started off the US rocketry business were European.

US has the advantage of the world's reserve currency, that's all.

Certainly no intelligence or innovation advantages.

There's a long list of stuff that US didn't invent, computers being a particularly important one.



TheLastTrump's picture

Iceland was like, fuck this shit. :)

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

"YES" Angela...

You need to be more grateful at our giving you a "Gruesome Harvest" ( post 1945.. And an occupation by the U.S. government on your "soil" that will be celebrating it's 72nd Anniversary this year!

Complete with nuclear warheads on our many bases inside your Country to start a potential fun-filled frolic game of "chicken" with your Land and it's peoples pointed "Eastward"... Or to be set off by our military personnel when you choose NOT TO COOPERATE WITH OUR "EDICTS"!!


Son of Captain Nemo's picture





Cassandra.Hermes's picture

The U.S. trade deficit with Germany is $65 billion. German direct investment in the United States was worth $255 billion, while U.S. direct investment in Germany was worth $108 billion, and with GM sale will go under $100B
So which country is benefiting more?
Trump believe that is watched by microwave but when he was with Chancellor Merkel he totally forgotten that he is in front of 20 cameras.

DingleBarryObummer's picture

Yes, and we are giving them deadbeat USD that we print out of thin air.  Trump doesn't get it.  We give them paper, they give us stuff.  We are already screwing over the whole world.