The Evidence That Russia Hacked The DNC Is Collapsing

Tyler Durden's picture

Authored by Justin Raimondo via TheAntiMedia.org,

The allegation – now accepted as incontrovertible fact by the “mainstream” media – that the Russian intelligence services hacked the Democratic National Committee (and John Podesta’s emails) in an effort to help Donald Trump get elected recently suffered a blow from which it may not recover.

Crowdstrike is the cybersecurity company hired by the DNC to determine who hacked their accounts: it took them a single day to determine the identity of the culprits – it was, they said, two groups of hackers which they named “Fancy Bear” and “Cozy Bear,” affiliated respectively with the GRU, which is Russian military intelligence, and the FSB, the Russian security service.

How did they know this?

These alleged “hacker groups” are not associated with any known individuals in any way connected to Russian intelligence: instead, they are identified by the tools they use, the times they do their dirty work, the nature of the targets, and other characteristics based on the history of past intrusions.

Yet as Jeffrey Carr and other cyberwarfare experts have pointed out, this methodology is fatally flawed. “It’s important to know that the process of attributing an attack by a cybersecurity company has nothing to do with the scientific method,” writes Carr:

“Claims of attribution aren’t testable or repeatable because the hypothesis is never proven right or wrong. Neither are claims of attribution admissible in any criminal case, so those who make the claim don’t have to abide by any rules of evidence (i.e., hearsay, relevance, admissibility).”

Likening attribution claims of hacking incidents by cybersecurity companies to intelligence assessments, Carr notes that, unlike government agencies such the CIA, these companies are never held to account for their misses:

“When it comes to cybersecurity estimates of attribution, no one holds the company that makes the claim accountable because there’s no way to prove whether the assignment of attribution is true or false unless (1) there is a criminal conviction, (2) the hacker is caught in the act, or (3) a government employee leaked the evidence.”

This lack of accountability may be changing, however, because Crowdstrike’s case for attributing the hacking of the DNC to the Russians is falling apart at the seams like a cheap sweater.

To begin with, Crowdstrike initially gauged its certainty as to the identity of the hackers with medium confidence.” However, a later development, announced in late December and touted by the Washington Post, boosted this to “high confidence.” The reason for this newfound near-certainty was their discovery that “Fancy Bear” had also infected an application used by the Ukrainian military to target separatist artillery in the Ukrainian civil war. As the Post reported:

“While CrowdStrike, which was hired by the DNC to investigate the intrusions and whose findings are described in a new report, had always suspected that one of the two hacker groups that struck the DNC was the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, it had only medium confidence.

 

“Now, said CrowdStrike co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch, ‘we have high confidence’ it was a unit of the GRU. CrowdStrike had dubbed that unit ‘Fancy Bear.’”

Crowdstrike published an analysis that claimed a malware program supposedly unique to Fancy Bear, X-Agent, had infected a Ukrainian targeting application and, using GPS to geo-locate Ukrainian positions, had turned the application against the Ukrainians, resulting in huge losses:

“Between July and August 2014, Russian-backed forces launched some of the most-decisive attacks against Ukrainian forces, resulting in significant loss of life, weaponry and territory.

 

“Ukrainian artillery forces have lost over 50% of their weapons in the two years of conflict and over 80% of D-30 howitzers, the highest percentage of loss of any other artillery pieces in Ukraine’s arsenal.”

Alperovitch told the PBS News Hour that “Ukraine’s artillery men were targeted by the same hackers, that we call Fancy Bear, that targeted DNC, but this time they were targeting cell phones to try to understand their location so that the Russian artillery forces can actually target them in the open battle. It was the same variant of the same malicious code that we had seen at the DNC.”

He told NBC News that this proved the DNC hacker “wasn’t a 400-pound guy in his bed,” as Trump had opined during the first presidential debate – it was the Russians.

The only problem with this analysis is that is isn’t true. It turns out that Crowdstrike’s estimate of Ukrainian losses was based on a blog post by a pro-Russian blogger eager to tout Ukrainian losses: the Ukrainians denied it. Furthermore, the hacking attribution was based on the hackers’ use of a malware program called X-Agent, supposedly unique to Fancy Bear. Since the target was the Ukrainian military, Crowdstrike extrapolated from this that the hackers were working for the Russians.

All somewhat plausible, except for two things: To begin with, as Jeffrey Carr pointed out in December, and now others are beginning to realize, X-Agent isn’t unique to Fancy Bear. Citing the findings of ESET, another cybersecurity company, he wrote:

“Unlike Crowdstrike, ESET doesn’t assign APT28/Fancy Bear/Sednit to a Russian Intelligence Service or anyone else for a very simple reason. Once malware is deployed, it is no longer under the control of the hacker who deployed it or the developer who created it. It can be reverse-engineered, copied, modified, shared and redeployed again and again by anyone. In other words? – ?malware deployed is malware enjoyed!

 

“In fact, the source code for X-Agent, which was used in the DNC, Bundestag, and TV5Monde attacks, was obtained by ESET as part of their investigation!

 

“During our investigations, we were able to retrieve the complete Xagent source code for the Linux operating system….”

 

“If ESET could do it, so can others. It is both foolish and baseless to claim, as Crowdstrike does, that X-Agent is used solely by the Russian government when the source code is there for anyone to find and use at will.”

Secondly, the estimate Crowdstrike used to verify the Ukrainian losses was supposedly based on data from the respected International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS). But now IISS is disavowing and debunking their claims:

“[T]he International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) told [Voice of America] that CrowdStrike erroneously used IISS data as proof of the intrusion. IISS disavowed any connection to the CrowdStrike report. Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense also has claimed combat losses and hacking never happened….

 

“’The CrowdStrike report uses our data, but the inferences and analysis drawn from that data belong solely to the report’s authors,” the IISS said. “The inference they make that reductions in Ukrainian D-30 artillery holdings between 2013 and 2016 were primarily the result of combat losses is not a conclusion that we have ever suggested ourselves, nor one we believe to be accurate.’

 

“One of the IISS researchers who produced the data said that while the think tank had dramatically lowered its estimates of Ukrainian artillery assets and howitzers in 2013, it did so as part of a ‘reassessment” and reallocation of units to airborne forces.’

 

“’No, we have never attributed this reduction to combat losses,” the IISS researcher said, explaining that most of the reallocation occurred prior to the two-year period that CrowdStrike cites in its report.

 

“’The vast majority of the reduction actually occurs … before Crimea/Donbass,’ he added, referring to the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine.”

The definitive “evidence” cited by Alperovitch is now effectively debunked: indeed, it was debunked by Carr late last year, but that was ignored in the media’s rush to “prove” the Russians hacked the DNC in order to further Trump’s presidential ambitions. The exposure by the Voice of America of Crowdstrike’s falsification of Ukrainian battlefield losses – the supposedly solid “proof” of attributing the hack to the GRU – is the final nail in Crowdstrike’s coffin. They didn’t bother to verify their analysis of IISS’s data with IISS – they simply took as gospel the allegations of a pro-Russian blogger. They didn’t contact the Ukrainian military, either: instead, their confirmation bias dictated that they shaped the “facts” to fit their predetermined conclusion.

Now why do you suppose that is? Why were they married so early – after a single day – to the conclusion that it was the Russians who were behind the hacking of the DNC?

Crowdstrike founder Alperovitch is a Nonresident Senior Fellow of the Atlantic Council, and head honcho of its “Cyber Statecraft Initiative” – of which his role in promoting the “Putin did it” scenario is a Exhibit A. James Carden, writing in The Nation, makes the trenchant point that “The connection between Alperovitch and the Atlantic Council has gone largely unremarked upon, but it is relevant given that the Atlantic Council – which is funded in part by the US State Department, NATO, the governments of Latvia and Lithuania, the Ukrainian World Congress, and the Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk – has been among the loudest voices calling for a new Cold War with Russia.” Adam Johnson, writing on the FAIR blog, adds to our knowledge by noting that the Council’s budget is also supplemented by “a consortium of Western corporations (Qualcomm, Coca-Cola, The Blackstone Group), including weapons manufacturers (Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman) and oil companies (ExxonMobil, Shell, Chevron, BP).”

Johnson also notes that CrowdStrike currently has a $150,000 / year, no-bid contract with the FBI for “systems analysis.”

Nice work if you can get it.

This last little tidbit gives us some insight into what is perhaps the most curious aspect of the Russian-hackers-campaign-for-Trump story: the FBI’s complete dependence on Crowdstrike’s analysis. Amazingly, the FBI did no independent forensic work on the DNC servers before Crowdstrike got its hot little hands on them: indeed, the DNC denied the FBI access to the servers, and, as far as anyone knows, the FBI never examined them. BuzzFeed quotes an anonymous “intelligence official” as saying “Crowdstrike is pretty good. There’s no reason to believe that anything they have concluded is not accurate.”

There is now.

Alperovitch is scheduled to testify before the House Intelligence Committee, and one wonders if our clueless – and technically challenged – Republican members of Congress will question him about the debunking of Crowdstrike’s rush to judgment. I tend to doubt it, since the Russia-did-it meme is now the Accepted Narrative and no dissent is permitted – to challenge it would make them “Putin apologists”! (Although maybe Trey Gowdy, the only GOPer on that panel who seems to have any brains, may surprise me.)

As I’ve been saying for months, there is no evidence that the Russians hacked the DNC: none, zilch, nada. Yet this false narrative is the entire basis of a campaign launched by the Democrats, hailed by the Trump-hating media, and fully endorsed by the FBI and the CIA, the purpose of which is to “prove” that Trump is “Putin’s puppet,” as Hillary Clinton put it. Now the investigative powers of the federal government are being deployed to confirm that the Trump campaign “colluded” with the Kremlin in an act the evidence for which is collapsing.

This whole affair is a vicious fraud. If there is any justice in this world – and there may not be – the perpetrators should be charged, tried, and jailed.

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corsair's picture

 ex-KGB crook

That Putin is ex-KGB is a well known fact that in itself does not mean much. That he is a "crook" is a pure conjecture.

literally rigs elections - Proof?

kills political opponents in broad daylight - Proof?

multi-billioinaire - Proof?

enriched through corruption and shady deals - Proof?

dictator - Proof?

oh, and...

many find disgust at how this site has devolved - Other than you, how many would that be exactly?

 

land_of_the_few's picture

He will provide proof just as soon as he stops beating his wife.

Peacefulwarrior's picture

"All the world's a stage"...

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

"The Evidence That Russia Hacked The DNC Is Collapsing"...

With "DEFEAT" in every conceivable direction by the "Master Class"... Russia's announced place as the #1 energy provider in the World... Russia paying off all the interest and principle of their post-Soviet debt... MIR replacing SWIFT...

And the match that will light the "fuse" (https://southfront.org/syria-will-use-scud-missiles-against-if-israel-co...) of what is left of obsessive compulsive psychopaths on suicide watch within the Anglo-Zionist confederation!...

I was going to pick American GIs in rubber body bags stacked like cord wood to be the PR of choice in "Raqqa", but I think the Zionist Jews might be ready to "cash in the rest of their chips" and "call it a day"! And let's be honest with ourselves... The American people aren't going to willingly volunteer for their own deaths somewhere in the frozen outer reaches of Russia to become another war trophy casualty just like the Germans before them! Gonna take something far more spectacular than 19 guys with box cutters and two aiplanes taking down 3 buildings in order to sell it too!

And if the Zionist-Kikes in Israel can't get their government to keep themselves from killing themselves and potentially everyone else, than the U.S. Government will have to ultimately decide if they too want to "cash in the rest of their chips" and join the "Hemlock Club", or chart a new beginning as the Soviet Union did in 1990!

I for one don't hold out much hope that the United States of America as a Nation at the top or bottom has those types of necessary critical thinking skills to be third-rate and rebuild from scratch the way that the Russians did!...

But lets hope I'm wrong!!!

jm's picture

The only poeple in the US that care about this non-issue are people wanting to demonize Trump and those wanting to elevate a russian dictator to something equivalent to a democratic leader.  

Voters saw through Hillary as a crook.  To their credit.  

People in the vast majority don't care about "Russian involvement" because they know it didn't affect anything.

The only reason why this story continues is because of political vendettas on one side, and the other side trying to keep the fire going to get the clicks or other more nefarious benefits.

 

 

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

"The only poeple in the US that care about this non-issue are people wanting to demonize Trump and those wanting to elevate a russian dictator to something equivalent to a democratic leader."

???

jm

To the 3 biggest accomplishments that I just spoke to that the Russian Federation secured with 28 years of disruption courtesy of the CIA/Mossad in their "caucuses" that have claimed hundreds of lives through that North American financed "charter"... then the coup in Ukraine in 2014 that killed thousands...

I actually struck up a conversation not too long ago with Israeli couple visiting the U.S. who told me what a "poor" Country Russia is and that the people there are so sad and "controlled" by their government?!!! All I could think was nothing has changed in all the years I lived through the Cold War and how profoundly brainwashed my formative education in high school and even University was on the subject of Russian history and culture.

At the end of the day it's always the same..."Sour grapes" from the poor loser!

Those that can no longer compete WILL DO ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING NO MATTER THE CONSEQUENCES OR THE COST to control what they NO LONGER CAN CONTROL!!!

francis scott falseflag's picture

 

"those wanting to elevate a russian dictator to something equivalent to a democratic leader"

 

Forget all the bullshit you ever heard, jm.  

 

Vladimir Putin is the closest thing you and the rest of us will ever see of the likes of the legendary

 

                                    LUCIUS QUINCTIUS CINCINNATUS

 

"He came from his plough to assume complete control over the state but, upon achieving a swift victory, relinquished his power and its perquisites and returned to his farm. His success and immediate resignation of his near-absolute authority with the end of this crisis (traditionally dated to 458 BC) has often been cited as an example of outstanding leadership,"   (.....)

 

"Modern historians question some particulars of the story recounted in Livy and elsewhere but usually accept Cincinnatus as a historical figure who served as suffect consul in 460 BC and as dictator in 458 BC and (possibly) again in 439 BC, when the patricians called on him to suppress the feared uprising of the plebs under Spurius Maelius."

        "a legendary figure of Roman virtues—particularly Roman manlinness and civic virtue"

"A swift victory" for Cincinnatus, but alas not for Putin. Putin's crisis, is the demented ambitions of Wolfowitz, the neocons and the deep state with their 'Russia delenda est' shtick. The only way of fighting the deep state is withits own tactics.          

  fight fire with fire and inferno with inferno

            (using the weapons and tactics of your enemy, no matter how distasteful) 

Don't get too excited about his imminent retirement.  We'll all know it when the good people of Russia are

                                                   OUT OF THE WOODS.

                (and they won't be following a trail of bread crumbs left by Hillary Rodham Clinton.)

 

                                                     A GOOD DICTATOR

                      The moronic publishers and editors of America prefer the bad ones.

 

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Just out of curiosity, can you rattle off some of the the names of the democratic leaders who saved

their countries from an evil equivalent to the DEEP STATE.    

                           POLK, McKINLEY, WILSON, JOHNSON, CLINTON, THE BUSHES, OBAMA

                             

                           Or maybe you're refering to a different country. Or a different planet. 

Akzed's picture

Gonna take something far more spectacular than 19 guys with box cutters and two aiplanes taking down 3 buildings in order to sell it too!

 

All seven WTC bldgs were destroyed in the event.

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

"All seven WTC bldgs were destroyed in the event."

NO actually...

4 of those 7 were structurally compromised but were intact like the Siemens building. The Twin Towers and Building 7 were the only ones within the complex that collapsed completely from "top" to "bottom" into melted steel and dust!

Cman5000's picture

Obama slipped it was leakers then changed the subject in a press conference.

lakecity55's picture

Obama? The guy who declared a revolution then went to Polynesia for a gay fling, with no extradition?

TuesdayBen's picture

The story in the MSM now is that Obama dropped the revolution and abandoned the bunker for French Polynesia in order to write his memoirs.

True Blue's picture

If a person does not wipe thoroughly after creating their daily Obama action figure collection; his memoirs will write themselves -in their underwear.

A. Boaty's picture

MSM now uses the phrase "deep state" (once an MSM no-no) to refer to elements in the IC/MIC they don't like. Somehow, they fail to mention banksters.

lakecity55's picture

Banksters are referred to as "deep pockets."

moorewasthebestbond's picture

This story meaning all the "Russia did it" sewage was already "disappeared" on news.google.com 10 days ago Friday.

 

Something had to make way for the wiretapping CONSPIRACY FACT.

Mr. Crisp's picture

Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats because of 'Russian hacking', like the DNC computer network. Good thing that didn't lead to war.

lakecity55's picture

The Russians are feeding bullshit to our 35 'diplomats' so they don't want to kick them out.

They are too busy giving the US spies fake weapons plans.
al-ciaduh plays checkers. Russians play chess.

Manipuflation's picture

OT a bit here but worth noting.  I feel like writing today.  If you want a Russian wife of almost 20 years I can hook you up... with mine.  I still want her back though.  You will have nothing but trouble with her such as being told to FUCK OFF.  Well OK.  She is a senior citizen tax advisor and makes more money than I do as far as she knows.  Enough about Russians.

What I am looking for is stuff from the 70's and especially clothing.  I am having a tough finding these articles.  I have been to every pawn and thrift shop and you just can't find it.  I like to be eclectic.  I am your village idiot.  You all know that I love collecting.  I do not want reproductions.  Come on.

Like this or less.LOL

You can't find much of it anymore.  No one can explain the 70's, the decade I was born in.(the early part)  I remember some of those times not so fondly.  I think the 70's are an important part of our history.  The decade may have sucked but I do think it defined my life.  There was never any good news.  There was goverment cheese and rice for me to eat.  So I killed a lot of wildlife and ate them.  I grew up in the woods and not a suburb. 

When I finally had to go to Russia, alone, it was because of who is now Mrs .M.  She had fight club in her and I knew that.  An agreement was made.  We knew that we had to be there for each other.  That can't be duplicated and I can still make her laugh after all of these years.

The .govs of all countries can fuck off.   

 

lakecity55's picture

Does she like Hawaii?

All the Russian chicks I met traveling don't like their men to drink, and I am a teetotaller.

For those who do like adult beverages, carry on.

Manipuflation's picture

Russian women don't drink.  The men do.

True Blue's picture

Coming down with a bad case of Saturday Night Fever? You poor soul.

Try estate and garage sales. My mother has (for example) two or three functioning 8-Track players buried somewhere in her house and some of the ugliest clothing you could imagine.

BlindMonkey's picture

I am waiting for Crowdstrike to quitely close up shop.  Who would hire these fools for security work when they are just propaganda arms of the deep state?  

 

 

Oh wait...never mind.

BlindMonkey's picture

I just poked around at Crowdstrike and they are trying to attack NSS labs because they rated Crowdstrike's product poorly.  

 

Great, when you don't like the result, attempt to silence the opposition.  

 

http://www.darkreading.com/endpoint/crowdstrike-fails-in-bid-to-stop-nss...

Dilluminati's picture

I brought down the equation group zip, extracted it, and it took over a month for Norton 360 to finally flag some of the files.

It's in a Kali VM build now in 0 & 1 but still.. there is no secuirity, none.. get over it.

Microsoft caught with logging keystrokes, turning it back ON when it is off, and people like Ed Bott peddle misinformation to the MSM so the dumber parrot the dumb.

SHORT HUMANITY, US-RETAIL, Chicago, and computer security!

BlindMonkey's picture

Lack of trust in tech will be its downfall.  

MrSteve's picture

actually, Sears has its HQ in Hoffman Estates not Chicago, so you can't get a twofer with US Retail and Chicago per this list.

johnnycanuck's picture

1st rule of Political Propaganda:  It doesn't have to be true, it only has to be plausible.

2nd rule of Political Propaganda:  Repeat like a creeping barrage across as many platforms as possible.

3rd rule of Political Propaganda: Ditch that mother like a dead skunk when challenged by facts and throw out another worm for the fish to chase.

 

I note, it's not just the now pathetic and out of touch Democrats who are guilty of these intellectual frauds, said 3 three rules are often adhered to religiously at Trump cheerleader sites like this one too.   

Thank Assange and Wikileaks for giving you hard proof of what billionaires money in politics is really all about. Fooling the people and seizing control of the levers of power for their own gain.

 

Victory_Garden's picture

Duhhhhh....really?

How much time is wasted on stupidity and the constant ziodistractions from things like say, a premeditated bankster purposely planned to crash economy that will cause chaos and meyham, moar constant woar mongering so isreal, not America, can profit, and the never ending invasion of America by what will absolutely turn out to be terrorists doing bad things, perhaps unimaginable horrors in country. Prolly sooner, rather than later now that the cat is out of the bag, and Russia has said fark you to the American babylonian dollar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qXL6IB9YKE

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-25/russia-readies-back-system-pote...

 

But wait!

How about being stupid and ignorant and lets all waste time on moar irrelevant lies, deceptions, and dis/mis-information for the Great Deceiver, satan/lucifer. How about everybody just jump off a cliff also because they said to do it on national lying dying lame arse fake stream news media propaganda church TVdrug stations every farkin night.

Yayyyyy!!!

How stupid can you be???

If this were a contest for the most outrageous stupid idiotic waste of time on distractions, there would be sum seriouoso winners here, alrighty-o! Try to calculate how much energy is absolutely mindlessly wasted on the TV news bullshat shit shows of lies and misleading information alone.

When was the last time you turned off your i-satan phone and just sat like a kid and admired nature in all her glory? Listened to the voice of a rivers flow, or the silence of a forest's cathedral tree music? The marvelousness of just staring at the clouds can be refreshing when you realize how much freer and refreshed you feel as a spiritual being having a grand human experience without the control of the folks' i-satan phone surgically attached to your numbskull. (may not be true for many)

 

Carry on...and go down to the river to give thanks for the simple things in the life that remains on planet earth for the time being. Maybe when mankind gets its collective head out of its arse, they can look up to the sky and see the real deal.

Here comes the Lord!

 

francis scott falseflag's picture

 

"Here comes the Lord!"

 

Is that what you whacky Christians call 'mushroom clouds?'

Ghostmaker's picture

Democrats hire a Russian to provide security of computer servers?

Victory_Garden's picture

In the new world oder of whackiy-doo...who else can you trust? Certainly not the poo of a cnn/fox/msnbc/abc/nbc/ newsroom crew.

RICKYBIRD's picture

And our very own FBI did too.

NobodyNowhere's picture

The alleged Russian hacking proved far more powerful than all the factual support and funding by Israel, Saudis, Wall Street, a sitting president, the Deep State, the whole fvking MSM, the BLMs, the Mexican drug cartels ..

Speaks volumes about the capability of the elites.

lakecity55's picture

I never thought the Russkies hacked their computer because there was no motive to do so.

Trump, having common sense, thinks it's better to get along and go along, rather than waste money on somebody who does not want to attack us. He has no motive to work for Russia. He may want to build a hotel in Crimea sometime, if it calms down. He does not have to be a Russian spy to do that, just get financing.

The only party with a motive to stir up Russian Attacks is the deep state and its puppets, an ex-homo president and a lesbo presidential candidate, both crooked and susceptible to blackmail.
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I could see the communist party try to hack the socialist party, and vice versa.
                      (democrats)                            (republicans)

(Trump is the only member in office of the American Party).

z89101's picture

Russia was always a fabricated Boogeyman in this election cycle.

Kagemusho's picture

I usually like Raimondo's work, but excuse me, because I must have been sleeping, but when did "Russia invade the Ukraine"?

I'm having to guess that the the author had been referring to what happened in Crimea, which  had been Russian territory for hundreds of years until the (criminal) Soviet Regime (illegally) ceded it to Ukraine (after also illegally ousting the native Tatar population). In which case the Russians 'got theirs back'.

Otherwise, I think I could be excused for feeling confused; with the (artificially NATO-produced) tensions in the area, such a move (Russia invading the Ukraine) would have heralded WW3, with all the requisite nuclear fireworks attendant with such a gambit.

As to Russian support of the rebels in East Ukraine, many of the said rebels are bitterly critical of Putin for not doing enough to help them. The rebel's weapons are often decades older than their users (i.e. anti-tank rifles from 1941) or are captured, ammo is catch-as-catch-can, and the fighting is actually being sourced online, with constant pleas at the end of propaganda videos for fiscal aid. Many are wearing a collection of other nation's military surplus cast-off uniforms, making them resemble a rag-tag bunch of weekend hunters than an army.  Not exactly indicative of those who are receiving any substantial help from Mother Russia.

Yet, with as little as they have, they've held off a much bigger and better supplied adversary. Tells you something.

So, if the Russian government is involved in assisting the rebels, that level of support is almost microscopic, for obvious geopolitical reasons. If anyone is rooting for war, it isn't Putin.

 

blue51's picture

Conspiracy to sway voters is chicken shit, compared to Bush & Project Hammer . http://thephaser.com/2015/11/bushs-project-hammer-and-the-911-deception/

NDXTrader's picture

The Russian theory was debunked the minute we found out the DNC wouldn't allow the FBI to look at the servers. And why hasn't the FBI seized those servers, supposedly the object of open cyber warfare, if true? If the Russians actually did what they are accused of we would never have heard about it

NobodyNowhere's picture

This election exposed the only thing the elites fear:  the rise of nationalism against the tyranny of the unelected, unethical, imperialistic elites.

But this revelation was more for the people - the elites have known it for quite sometime.  Evidenced by the fact that this is precisely what they have been trying to fix by driving hordes of killers and rapists from MENA into Western countries to neutralize any vestiges of electoral power the nationalists may still be left with despite all the rigging and brainwashing.

Mankind needs to globalize for advancement, through global cooperation for innovation and enterprise, but the elites have hijacked that process for their own benefit, wilfully causing the great suffering that is going for the very nations that had ushered in an era of unprecedented scientific advancement and technological progress to benefit all humanity.

The damage already done by these criminal elites is incalculable.  And the brainwashing and the consequences of criminal infiltration cannot be reversed.

 

Peter41's picture

Open and shut case of "Arkancide" - recall that a DNC staffer, Seth Rich, age 27, was gunned down with 2 shots in the back after a struggle with unknown assailant in the early morning hours on a Sunday in July 2016, during the dustup over the DNC hacks. Plausible to conclude that Seth Rich's leaking of the Debbie Washerwoman Schulz e-mails was discovered and dealt with by the Clintonista mafia. If so, the Russians had zilch to do with it, just another Dem hit job by the Clintonista shadow assassins, a la Vince Foster, et al.

NDXTrader's picture

Nope, just a robbery where nothing was taken on the only block in a 16 block radius w/o a security cam

Manipuflation's picture

I am taking the whole family, Russians included, over to the butcher shop.  They are open.  Spendy I know, but delicious it is.  I will pay cash. 

mcl2177's picture

James Comey started to Congress last week that Wikileaks did not get the Podesta emails from Russia

SwaziRed's picture

You can't prove a negative, cucktards.

It's just a matter of time before one of these Trump clowns turns state's evidence. My money's on Flynn.

NDXTrader's picture

Yawn. And say what? A made up Russia story is still made up. Get back to me when Jeff Sessions DOJ starts prosecuting this one

SwaziRed's picture

Funny you should mention recused Beauregard; he's my #2 choice to squeal.

geo_w's picture

Using your logic, I'm assuming you are having pizza tonight?

francis scott falseflag's picture

 

         "The Evidence That Russia Hacked The DNC Is Collapsing"

 

But not before the MSM successfully passed the baton to Trump's failure to repeal Obamacare

sinbad2's picture

Exactly, the truth is irrelevent, it's what people believe to be true that is important.

The American people have been fed BS for decades, and they seem to like the taste, anyone for a second helping of WMD's in Iraq ?