Is Trump About To Flip Again: Ryan Says "TTIP Good For Global Order"

Tyler Durden's picture

From Obamacare to NATO, and from Ex-Im Bank to Chinese currency manipulators, President Trump has shown he is comfortable changing his mind 'bigly'. Today's exuberant support for "TTIP as good for global order," from Speaker Ryan, following VP Pence's meetings in Japan, raises questions about whether Trump's executive order withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade agreement is the next big flip-flop.

During his presidential campaign, Trump often criticized the TPP agreement and called it a "terrible deal," which is harmful for US workers. On January 23, Donald Trump signed an executive order withdrawing the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade agreement and promised to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). The Trump administration was expected to at least delay talks on the TTIP deal, according to media reports.

And then today,. Speaker Ryan, according to Bloomberg News noted that "TTIP was good for global order," adding...

We are more determined than ever to lead. We don't want China to write the rules of the 21st century global economy. We want to do that. We want a level playing field for our businesses. And yes, we want free trade deals, but they have to be smart trade deals. They need to help workers and raise wages. They need to create high-paying, sustainable jobs. The good news is that these are exactly the type of jobs you get from smart free trade agreements. And we must continue to sharpen tools to combat unfair trade practices.


Now that Article 50 has been invoked, the UK and EU will determine the best path forward over the course of negotiations. We want the parties to come together and strike a lasting agreement. A strong UK-EU relationship is in all of our best interests.


In that same vein, the United States will continue to work closely with our EU friends, and chart a path forward on TTIP negotiations.

And while it's a jump from the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), as one analyst notes, given his recent backtracking, it's not beyond the realms of possibility...

"Whoever thought that Trump would let China, a rival, off the hook on currency? If he can do that with a country that's clearly not a friend, maybe he could reconsider reversing himself on TPP for a friend like Japan," Sean King, senior vice president of Park Strategies, told CNBC on Tuesday.

Japan was set to be a major beneficiary of TPP, particularly the country's auto sector that would have obtained cheaper access to U.S. markets. Tokyo, which has long lamented the trade pact would be "meaningless" without the U.S., has decided to forge ahead with the other remaining 10 participating nations to revive the deal but many are doubtful of whether the TPP will be a game-changer in Washington's absence.

Trade topped the agenda when Vice President Mike Pence holds talks with Japanese Deputy Prime Minister Taro Aso in Tokyo yesterday as part of a 10-day Asia tour. Pence focused on the prospect of a U.S.-Japan free trade agreement (FTA).

"We [the U.S.] are trying to offer them a poor man's TPP with this FTA idea, but I don't think Japan has any interest in pursuing that. They want to stick with ideas and principles that were hammered out in TPP," said King, specifically referring to intellectual property rights as well as market access.


"I think Taro Aso is just going to hear out Pence to be nice to Trump...I don't expect much to come out of these talks, it's going to be a bunch of niceties but no real deliverables."

Trump still has time to change his mind on TPP, King warned, noting that the treaty text remains valid until February 2018.

"Trump said [TPP] was a disaster, but I'm sure the other members would be willing to make concessions to get the U.S. back in, just like South Korea was willing to make concessions to Obama for his endorsement of the U.S.-Korea [free trade agreement]," King said.


"He's certainly made greater reversals and claimed victory. Why not do this for our friends who want to stand with us against countries like China and North Korea? I'm all for it."

We can only imagine the reaction in the rust-belt, after being told how distastrous TPP would be for US jobs, if Trump were to spin on this topic too.

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Greekziqrius's picture

Guess what, that wall also will not be built.

Pinto Currency's picture

Ryan needs to move to Red China.

Ms. Erable's picture

Ryan needs to move six feet under.

Donald Trump's picture
Donald Trump (not verified) Ms. Erable Apr 19, 2017 5:46 PM

A bit out of sync with the S Pacific white countries.

Nice move WHITE PRIDE move from Australia and New Zealand which both started to cut off the immigration flux:

Aussie PM “Puts Australia First” Restricting Immigration


New Zealand Echoes Trump with “Kiwi First Approach” to Immigration

Xatos's picture

Uhh, that's Paul Ryan. Not Trump. Don't trust this any further than you can throw it. You people need to learn how to think for yourself. Just because the globalist RINO scum Paul Ryan comes out running his mouth it doesn't mean he's speaking for Trump. Look how easily you're all being duped based on an article that literally said NOTHING about Trump's opinion changing. 


Trump is doing just fine, just shut the fuck up and watch him navigate this monster. He's got a lot to take on, he can only choke out 1 tentacle at a time. He didn't realize how deep this shit was going on. He can't just walk in there and start chopping heads off. 


You people disappoint me. He's been there 3 months. Chill the fuck out and watch. 

Consuelo's picture



Yeah - that's Paul Ryan indeed.


And now, here's Trump:


"We must fight and defeat them"  Tweet to Rand Paul and the Freedom Caucus over rejection of Obamacare-lite...

But-but-but...   I'm sure that is nothing more than a clever head-fake by the master deal maker, correct...?

Never ceases to amaze, what knots people will tie themselves in to hold on to their beliefs that somehow, someway, this time it is different.

Personally, i want to believe too - and I truly hope the pendulum that got him in office, again swings our way.  

But i'm a realist all the same ---

CheapBastard's picture

I guess Obamacare will not be repealed and America's middle class will have to continue suffering and go broke.

Xatos's picture

You forgot the part where 3 days later he was on the golf course with Rand Paul and now the Freedom Caucus is getting what they want. 


Jackass. Keep up.

shivura's picture

the freedom caucus wants the opposite of what GOP wants...he was on the golf course bc he needed to know exactly what to say the next 3 days when he was shouting Russia is a distraction bullshit like his other tools (nunes / chaffetz)

eforce's picture

"If I were to run, I'd run as a Republican. They're the dumbest group of voters in the country. They love anything on Fox News. I could lie and they'd still eat it up. I bet my numbers would be terrific".

--Trump - People Magazine 1998 (Beginning to think this quote isn't false afterall).

stinkopower's picture

And after 2 years you will be saying "It's only been 2 years give him a chance."

NoDecaf's picture

Kim Jon-Un gonna have some cake at Mar-a-Lago

knukles's picture

Good for the "Global Order"?
That's it.  NWO shit flung right in our faces.



If any of you have a Progressive pal they want to shut the fuck up, just tell them the truth.
That with all the flip flops the New Boss is the same as the Old Boss so they're getting Hillary's foreign policy.
Progressives should be ELATED.
Even though they don't understand why they should be terrified.  It really is for the children's freedoms, is it not?


veritas semper vinces's picture

I dont think so.China is more capitalist then Jewmerica,which is a (parasitocracy)

johngaltfla's picture

If he flips on this and the wall isn't built, 2018 will look like 1930 for the Republican'ts.

bobbbny's picture

What's the difference?

We've been had.

Same scum, different mask.

johngaltfla's picture

Well, not me. I voted Constitution Party. I never trusted Trump or the Republicraps.

DrData02's picture

Yeah. The Constitution party is really effective right now.

johngaltfla's picture

As effective as the Democommies and Republicrats.

Row Well Number 41's picture

Yes, they have been very effective for their true masters.

Reality Creator's picture

So, the utter hatred for Clinton justified y'all enthusiastically supporting Trump even though it was clear as day all along that Trump was a mendacious untrustworthy ignorant bigot who could never actually make America great again.

Is this how y'all invest too?

How's that doom porn got ya...shorter than grammy's biscuits fallin' apart in yer lap?

Clinton turned out to be a red herring with the result you went long on Trump, hook, line and sinker.

Admit your failed investment in your choice of whom you cast your vote for and maybe I'll listen to what you have to say in the future. Man up girls.

Archibald Buttle's picture

you make some good points. personally, this has all turned out pretty much as i expected. still, it is hitlery-lite, at least so far. at the very minimum, i hope trump will have his feet held over the coals by those who voted for him moreso than the last couple/three losers we have had to suffer through.

knukles's picture

Ain't it funny how after a landslide (Either wing of the One Party) all go and act all snotty holier than thou noses up in the air and better than anybody else proceeding right along with the Kabuki Theater as if nobody'll remember.
Lot of people "remembering" right now.
Just see how a "political" discussion goes these days ... why you'd think they were trying to get us to fight one another and miss what's happening behind the scenes.


(Do I really need to add the "s/" tag?   Nah, I'm gullible.)

johngaltfla's picture

LOL, yup. I remember the hell I got for not voting for McCain. When attacked I simply said his programming will click on to the "Marxist" setting when Pelosi shows up in Congress dressed as the Queen of Diamonds. That didn't go over well with the Republicons even though I said with either party the financial crash guaranteed a disaster for this nation.

And this train wreck is just getting started.

stubb's picture

I don't know why, and I absolutely refuse to speculate why, but as I was reading your comment, I suddenly imagined Nancy Pelosi sashaying grandly through the Capitol Building while wearing only a pair of high heels and nothing else. I'm going to bed now. 

FreeShitter's picture

The difference is in the ties and maybe the skirts, other than that they are same. Cant believe in 2017, we still have morons thinking we have a two party system. Must be nice to be a sheep.

Zorba's idea's picture

Then what? hire team blue...yeah right!  Better to PRIMARY all these spineless RINO whores. Contenders should be vetted by the Freedom caucus...the only apparent way to "Brexit" the DC swamp.

Winston Churchill's picture

I'm worried about the world looking like 1942.fuck the republicrats ans demoncans.

If you still haven't workef out they're the same party you're easy to con.

johngaltfla's picture

1942 is optimistic. More like 1962.

Laddie's picture

You are correct. The Wall the entire reasons for the Base White Vote IGNORED.

As one fellow noted:
"TPP? That got even worse, but its renamed TISP. Tump got rid of it by hiding under new name; its now even more alarming than the original version"

The original was a 2 parter and the second, which is VERY similar to what Trump has, opened immigration from 3rd World.

A very good article but the comments are even better!
Trump Has Killed Beautiful Babies in Four Countries

Voting is a fool's game.
Vote for Tribe Puppet A or B


Soros ANTIFA are going to be heavily armed for the next time and the COPS will STAND DOWN.
There Will Be Blood: Left Prepares For War After Berkeley Beat Down: “Combat Training, Better Equipment, Guns…”

During the Seattle Mardis Gras riots, Kris Kime went to the aid of a white girl who was being beaten and stomped by a pack of male and female blacks. There were also LATINOS doing the same to the Seattle whites. The police STOOD DOWN, did NOTHING. Kris Kime was hit in the head by a black male with a skateboard. Kris Kime died.
ANTIFA wants Whites DEAD, and the POLICE are still STANDING DOWN. Let a white man wield a skateboard or a dowel stick and the cops SWARM him:
COPS JUST STAND AND WATCH while Trump supporters are pummeled but arrest, violently, Based Stickman who was defending Trump supporters... March 4, 2017

Berkeley Apr-15-2017 Trump supporter in helmet attacked with skateboard

Watch how the Berkeley cops 2017-04-15 IMMEDIATELY move to save Asian ANTIFA female
Yet they NEVER came to the aid of the Whites who were demonstrating for FREE SPEECH (MAGA)

BabaLooey's picture

He better fucking NOT go back on this.

Shit coming out of a donkey's ass is better than these pieces if shit..............

....and one more thing


MFL5591's picture

Get rid of this scum!

trumpala's picture

The clown is about to do anything the establishment wants.

general ambivalent's picture

Don't worry, it's just 666D chess. He will drain the swamp eventually.

Librarian's picture

I think I fell off somewhere after bosonic string theory.

I'll add mesianic string theory to my reading list once I'm restocked on rye whisky.

Mzhen's picture

There were massive demonstrations in Europe against the TTIP.  Got that, Ryan?

Trucker Glock's picture

Governments are totally scared of demonstrations.  "We give them a permit to demonstrate and they repay us by demonstrating?"

These fucks don't give two shits about the citizenry. 

AriusArmenian's picture

If Trump flips to supporting TTIP then fuck him in the you know what!

Ryan is a known traitor.

Seasmoke's picture

The Game Show Host no matter what he say is always is willing to make another deal behind door #2.

TheLastTrump's picture

Hey what the hell is up with all this flipping bullshit TYLERS? Your last article with that in the title was bullshit clickbait too. Keeping those little PAULBOTZ all riled up are we?

optimator's picture

The Bolshivik, Zionist, failure, was always in the Trump Woodpile waiting to strike.

So, Kushner is now the acting President.  


SmilinJoeFizzion's picture

Just because Ryan said it doesn't mean Trump wants it. Trump is trolling Ryan to make him look the fool again

UnschooledAustrianEconomist's picture

TTIP is not a trade agreement but a sell-out of both European and US interests to big corporations.

All you got to know.

Fuck TTIP. Fuck CETA.

Vageling's picture

Hegelian dialect. Seems to be hot now. I's a "NWO" grab. 

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

Well "Tex" just FLIPPED!..... AGAIN!... (

After the "Vice President" DID THIS???!!! (



ToSoft4Truth's picture

"The Swamp was deeper than I thought.. . I'll need four more years to do great things.  Really great things.  And I mean that, this time."

FIAT CON's picture

Trump just found out he is one of them not one of us! Simple.