Report: Tesla And AMD Developing Custom AI Chip For Self-Driving Technology

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Shares of AMD ($AMD) spiked over 6 percent in after hours trade following a CNBC report that carmaker Tesla has teamed up with the chip maker develop a custom A.I. processor for self-driving technology.

The carmaker has received the first batch of samples from the chipmaker, a source told CNBC.

The new relationship with AMD likely signals a shift away from Nvidia, which is currently providing a small processing chip for Tesla’s current version of their self-driving system.

Via CNBC:

Current Tesla vehicles use Nvidia graphics processing units as part of the Autopilot self-driving hardware. Previously Tesla used chips from Mobileye, but the two companies parted ways last year after an accident involving a Mobileye-powered Tesla. Earlier this year Intel acquired Mobileye for more than $15 billion.

Notably Tesla is not working with Intel, which has enjoyed a long working relationship with Alphabet’s Waymo car group.

Shares of Nvidia ($NVDA) dropped after hours;

CNBC also reports that “Alphabet has already built two generations of an AI chip that can work as a GPU alternativeMicrosoft is working on its own AI chip for the HoloLens. And Apple has incorporated an AI chip into its top-of-the-line iPhone X.”

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fel.temp.reparatio's picture

nvidia partnered with volvo and autoliv in june to build autonomous vehicles based on nvidia's drive px car computing platform

webmatex's picture

None the less the new Ryzan and Threadripper range of plug in processors look very good for a pc ATW350/AS320 motherboard build for a cheap and modern PC.

I am building slowly and hope to overcome the problems of installing the unsupported Win7 OS on one - which by the way runs faster then Win10 - but that may be pretty obvious.

INTEL are in trouble as the price of the lower  range AMD are half the price but similar performance.

The speed has been revised since the March with updates to BIOS and processor.

I want the 1600X 6-Core 3.6 GHz 12 thread (4.0 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 95W  for $200.

AMD claim some sort of AI for their chip managment software but i'm not fooled, its just logic.

The processors also manage 2 USB and the SATA (i believe, may be incorrect - its early, coffee,) independent of the MB.

64GB max DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 @ 3200.

My build on newegg costs about $400 but doesnt include a case ($40) and DVD ($15) and a new screen to match the definition and graphics capability.

MY current AMD Acer is around 9 years old now, never let me down, but i never got beyond playing Skyrim in 2012...

Threadripper looks pretty good as a competitor to the i7 range but its still early days and both products are out of my price range and utility.

Horse Pizzle's picture

AMD introduced new designs for CPUs (Central Processing Unit) and GPUs (Graphics Processing Unit).  Their CPU is equal or better to Intel. Their GPU is equal or better to Nvidia.  Artificial intelligence requires both CPU and GPU.  Intel has no GPU.   Nvidia has no CPU.

AMD also has a high speed interconnect between chips called Infinity Fabric.  This allows AMD to stack multiple chips and memory without loss of performance.   The cost savings for stacking smaller chips is impressive. AMD is taking over the server farms, cloud farms, workstations, notebooks, and video game computers.

The computer chip business is a natural monopoly.  Nobody buys last year's chip because it is slower.  AMD offers the best for half the price of monopolist Intel.  If intel matched AMD prices then Intel stock would crash.  Better for Intel to slowly concede the market to AMD.

 

 

cheech_wizard's picture

By any chance do you now work for AMD?

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Care to guess who was the lucky contract engineer that got it up and running for AMD?

When I got hired on I met the guy that did their chip debugging (the problems that drive most people clinically insane). A kindred spirit because I did the same thing when i worked at SUN Microsystems...

Very few people know that their are actually completely undocumented op-codes in AMD chips. You have to know how to bang the metal, and not many do. I was shocked by this. Why?, because it told me their verification team sucked. Shit like that gets caught during the verification phase of the design. BTW, their test coverage was based on randomly generated test patterns, giving them only about 30% coverage during actual test. Two different companies, two vary different design flows. SUN exercised the living hell out of their chips.

I always get a chuckle when I read the words "guaranteed by design"...

 

 

Pernicious Gold Phallusy's picture

Its main use, unanticipated by its creators, will be bringing porn to men's cars and cat videos to women's.

Yellow_Snow's picture

AMD stock going up because they make the best GPU's for mining crypto's.  NVIDIA GPU's are not as cost effective as the AMD cards...  AI chip is likely a 'nothing burger'.

cheech_wizard's picture

For the historical records:

Their GPU design facility is actually based out of Markham, Ontario... AMD announced the acquisition of the graphics processor company ATI Technologies on July 24, 2006.

The Real Tony's picture

Sucker money after hours the epitome of total stupidty as the news came out in the morning and stock flat lined all day after the open. Win or lose they made a bad move.

ZeroPointNow's picture

CNBC broke the story after the bell. 

I Write Code's picture

I want some AI onion dip with my AI chips.

ThankUGartman's picture

How to get rid of all those pesky truthers.

1. Track comments and obtain email addresses from various social media sites.
2. Obtain true identity, ss#, place of residence/employment for each email address/ip address.
3. Get DMV records for the individual for make, model and Vin for their personal or work vehicles.
4. Hack into cars computer and override steering/braking causing crash and hopefully death of driver. Disable airbags remotely as well. See Princess Diana crash for other details.

cheech_wizard's picture

AMD lost most of their actual talent back in 2012 when they laid off 30+ % of their workorce. (It was actually close to 45%, I was one of them.) Then they sold off their Lone Star Campus and promptly proceeded to lease back the space. Following this, the attrition rate went through the roof. Of the 17 test engineers I worked with, only one remained by 2013. They also sold off Global Foundries to the Emirate of Abu Dhabi. They continue to use Global Foundries, and unless the Emirate has made drastic improvements to the fab process, then it still sucks. AMD was actually screening components by leakage current (yes, that's how bad the fab process was). Given the process was so horrendous, AMD used to also do blind builds of wafers in the hope of getting some good die to actually test new products.

Would I put my faith in a car controlled by an AMD chip built by Global Foundries? Hell, no...

Horse Pizzle's picture

In 2014 AMD got a new and talented CEO.  Dr. Lisa Su was a child prodogy who earned a Ph.D. from MIT in microprocessor design and manufacturing.  At AMD she developed processors and technology that provide a superior less costly solution to every slice of the computer market.  Today AMD technology dominates video games, notebooks, graphics, Artificial Intelligence, workstations, server farms, and cloud farms.  AMD is rapidly taking market share from both Intel and Nvidia.

Automatic Choke's picture

wow.

thank you cheech...i knew it was bad, but had no idea it was this bad.

I used to like AMD in the 90s for alt processors to Intel, but they seemed to have lost the cutting edge, and this explains some or all of it.

It really sucks when the bean counters take over a good high tech company.   I hope you landed someplace where you can feel contributory.....

 

squid's picture

AI chip?

How about an anti-gravity chip? Now that would be cool.

I'm still waiting for the Star Trek transporter beam....fucking hate flying.

 

AI is NOT going to happen dudes...machines cannot think, PERIOD. Hollywood does not create physics, they creat fantasy.

A CPU is bit-slice logic, that is all it is. Its complex to be sure, but do not confuse a complex machine for something that thinks. Those are not the same thing. You, a human, can think and learn, a machine can neither think nor learn. They just can't.

 

The algos can confuse you into believe the machine is thinking, but it isn't.

 

If Musky is going to continue to fail at something, I think the anti-gravity chip is bigger and better. If you're going to fail, FAIL BIG!!!!

 

Squid

Common_Law's picture

Electro gravitics has already been demonstrated. But it takes too much power to be put in a chip. Conservation of energy and stuff. 

More interesting science here: http://www.cheniere.org

Solomonpal's picture

I don't even trust my backup camera. How am I supposed to trust a car that self drives on the freeway?

Horse Pizzle's picture

Nvidia 8 billion sales 100 billion market cap.  Ooops!

Clowns on Acid's picture

Just another breathless Media "announcement" by the pyschopathic Musk who understands the pyschopathic Media meme within the neo Bolshevik construct of the UN and Central Banks. The SNB and Australian Sovereign WQealth Fund will be buying TSLA to $400 tomorrow.

Virtue signalling must accompany Bolshevik money printing so that the Media can match it up with Universities propaganda of Climate Chnage and Whire Privelege. Its a circuitous money printing Reality TV Production. 

Karl Marxist's picture

Will Musk and AMD program "the thrill of driving" experience into these chips? What's more exciting than getting in one's car in the morning and taking one's life in one's own hand? I ask you .. Pat Buchanan...!

Conax's picture

There is no way they will ever get me to buy ! one of these Big Brother activated slave leashes. I happen to enjoy the freedom of driving myself wherever and whenever I feel like going.

This is Amurca, and we drive cars, ride motorcycles, fly planes, go off road, plow fields, crash through houses, wreck boats on the rocks and careen into trees because we have rights, godammit.  Any punk ass slave that thinks this is a good idea should pack their shit and gtfo of this cunt-ry. N Korea can use the new meat.

Stuck on Zero's picture

There isn't a shred of "A.I." in these things. They are just CNN (Convolutional Neural Network) engines that perform a bit of pattern matching.

Horse Pizzle's picture

Pattern matching plus logic = intelligence.

pitz's picture

ITS NOT HUMAN INTELLIGENCE!

Neochrome's picture

Yeah, because driving a car is something a rock can do.

ZeroPointNow's picture

A.I. is defined, at least in this context, as a computer system able to perform a human task, not some positronic brain.

Stuck on Zero's picture

The term is "artificial intelligence."  Intelligence meaning the capability of self-awareness or the capability of extracting information from the environment, and the retention, and use of that information.

ZeroPointNow's picture

Not trying to be a dick, but the definition is literally "computer systems able to perform tasks that normally require human intelligence," such as driving a car. 

Also re: "extracting information from the environment, and the retention, and use of that information," how do you know Tesla's system won't do that? Maybe it will observe and log things like construction detours, pot holes, and other obstacles for future use. 

Self-awareness or the capacity to be self aware is not part of it outside of sci fi. 

 

 

Stuck on Zero's picture

Do you know the difference between information and data?

Solomonpal's picture

And something that loves you unconditionally

Hail Spode's picture

Pretty soon they will claim that human drivers are unsafe and try to mandate driverless cars- with FEDGOV possessing an over-ride that can keep you on the reservation.

BTW I wrote a novella which speaks to some issues surrounding driverless cars issue by re-telling the story of working-man hero John Henry....no charge for kindle primers.... 

 

In this re-telling of the Legend, John Henry was not born in the 1800s. He's alive now, and the first African-American NAS-CAR Racing Champion. Not every driver welcomed him on the circuit, but now they are facing an adversary which threatens to make them all obsolete. Kraken, a giant technology company, has introduced a driverless race car which it claims can out-drive any man alive. Should John Henry stay comfortably retired, or face up to the toughest opponent of his life to save the jobs of men who may or may not deserve it?

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0753QJ5PY

oncemore's picture

You should have chosen a hero from Antifa and not any black man.

U seem to be very politically correct.

Hillary was your champion, I guess.

jonjon831983's picture

Nah, they'll increase insurance rates, saying human input is prone to accidents and uncertainty, to make it prohibitive for all but the wealthy to drive their own cars. Even then, the ease of using a driverless car will make most of the wealthy uninterested in driving themselves.

Solomonpal's picture

Why not the first Romanian gypsy?

Hail Spode's picture

Should have. Best chance to monetize these e-books is for someone in Hollywood to pick it up for a movie, and I figure Hollyweird will make ten movies about Malcom X before they make one about an African American folk-hero whose defining charateristic is his extraordinary work ethic. One who worked himself to death and as far as we know never told anyone to "check their priviledge". 

CuttingEdge's picture

Sorry for being picky, but shouldn't the headline be "AMD, Tesla and the CIA/NSA developing custom chip"?