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Aircraft Carrier Enterprise Sets Off On Final Journey - Direction Iran

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Today at noon Eastern, the storied aircraft carrier Enterprise, aka CVN-65, left its home port of Naval Station Norfolk one final time for its final voyage with a heading: Arabian Sea, aka Iran. There in a week it will join CVN 72 Lincoln and CVN 70 Vinson, as well as LHD 8 Makin Island, all of which are supporting any potential escalation of "hostilities" in the Persian Gulf region. As a reminder, back in January we learned that the Enterprise's final voyage will be in proximity to Iran, and in the meantime, the aircraft carrier held extended drills off the Florida coast to attack a "faux theocracy"  consisting of fundamentalist "Shahida" states. Why the Arabian Sea in about 7-10 days will be home to not two but three aircraft carriers and a big deck amphibious warfare ship is very much an open question, although we may have some thoughts. 


Thousands of sailors will deploy today from Norfolk on the USS Enterprise for the last time on Sunday.


Nearly 5,500 Sailors aboard the ships of the Enterprise Carrier Strike Group (ENT CSG) are scheduled to deploy from Naval Stations Norfolk and Mayport, Fla., March 9, 11 and 12, to support operations with the U.S. Navys 5th and 6th Fleets.


The aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN 65), commanded by Capt. William C. Hamilton Jr., will depart from Naval Station Norfolk for the ships 22nd and final deployment March 11.  

CVN 65 will not be alone:

After the Enterprise leaves Sunday, three Norfolk-based guided-missile destroyers will head out Monday — the USS Porter, USS Nitze and USS James E. Williams.


The strike group is commanded by Rear Adm. Ted Carter Jr.


Carrier Air Wing 1, based at Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach, will be embarked aboard the Enterprise.


The Enterprise was launched September 24, 1960, by Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Co. and commissioned November 25, 1961.


Its record of high-profile service began with the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. Since then, it has served in countless missions around the world.


The aircraft squadrons of CVW 1 embarked aboard Enterprise are: Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 11 Red Rippers, VFA 136 Knighthawks, VFA 211 Fighting Checkmates, Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 251 Thunderbolts, Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 123 Screwtops, Carrier Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron (VAQ) 137 Rooks, Fleet Logistics Support Squadron (VRC) 40 Rawhides, and Helicopter Anti-submarine Squadron (HSL) 11 Dragon Slayers.

Some pictures released minutes ago from Enterprise's final deployment:

Finally, this is how congested the Arabian Sea looks right about now, where two carriers and one assault ship are currently located, via Stratfor.


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Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:01 | 2246100 Hedgetard55
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+55 Joe,


     The closest any of them ever got to anything military was playing X-box.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:33 | 2246147 TradingJoe
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Thx pal, I may have hit a harder then usual tone :)) but heck I ment every word, I sat like that waiting for that kick in the but, many times over and know what you feel when you have too much time to think of what's ahead, the mission and a safe return! We all seem to be exhausted by corruption and feeling helpless in confronting it, yet our men and women at sea bear the most, they come back(if???) and have no job no home no prospects, and what do we ...BITCH!!! Not a constructive way to help!

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:42 | 2246485's picture

Why are American troops being sent into harm's way when all US intelligence agencies and the Pentagon unanimously agree with "high confidence" that Iran not only doesn't have nuclear weapons, they don't even have a program to develop them?

If you cherish the troops stand up and demand that they not be put in risk of life and limb over a lie. The only "documentation" suggesting that Iran is working on a nuclear weapon was provided by the terrorist group MEK. Please consider siding with American military and intelligence professionals rather than with the Mujahedin terrorists when American blood and treasure are at stake.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 08:06 | 2246775 TradingJoe
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Frankly, am a little tired to "explain" the military here, troops don't make policy, they mearly enforce it! I couldn't help noticing a lot of DISGUSTING comments about our serving men and women, how dumb and etc they must be, and why they don't "stand up" against who knows what kind of "dumb, warmongering" superior etc, JESUS do you people really hear yourself talking!?!?!

A few isolated and very sad incidents, most likely superiors were too weak to lead, and all others are the same, SAD! I remember what Kerry, that MF prick once said, and it cost him his campaign, "only the uneducated/brain weak join the military or if you can't have an education etc", well I think the ones GETTING an education on the GI BILL ARE SMART, since education seems to be for the RICH only, well at least "the dumb" in the militry won't have a huge loan to pay off once done!

I am truly embarrassed at what I had to read since yesterday when this thread started, it shows that ALL AMERICANS deserve what they have A LONG TIME coming!

Good Luck to you, Assholes! 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:08 | 2246204 toxic8
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What's your point?

Bravery, camaraderie, shared suffering, G-forces, sacrifice, loud guns, propellers... all that is great and (in your eyes) distinguishes you from us 'civilian folk' but the idea here is before all that gung-ho tough guy shit you made a CHOICE and signed up WILLINGLY to become pawns to fight completely immoral/illegal wars for corporate plutocrats and for what? to kill who?

The bad guys from the story books?? We all know life is much more complex than that and anyone with a HALF a brain nowadays realizes that the guys pulling YOUR strings should have that M16 rifle jabbed into their temples instead of the sobbing Afghani housewife whose house just got raided at 3AM

You can only claim ignorance once... nowadays, grunts in the military just get the smallest piece of the pie from the "me and mines" fuck everybody else camp. 50k to a semi-useless college education and some benefits is a LAZY excuse to join the world's biggest killing/displacement/resource acquiring machine

I gotta say though the Ron Paul statistic w/ military donations was inspiring. I hope one day enough people in our military wake up and say ENOUGH and turn the rifle towards their masters..

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:03 | 2246364 Moe Howard
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Easy for some pussy who never humped a ruck nor toted a rifle to talk shit about the military.

I agree, this stuff going on is insane. But it's coming to a neighborhood near you soon.

Grunts fight for each other, not flags nor presidents nor retards like you.

You think the cops are going to be protecting you when the SHTF?

You will be praying for the vet down the street to save your ass.

The most honorable men I have ever met in my life served in the military. The most despicable scumbags I ever met never did.


Mon, 03/12/2012 - 02:06 | 2246502 FeralSerf
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If the grunts are "just fighting for each other, not flags nor presidents nor retards like" me, why the am I paying for this shit?

The last war that Americans fought that had any meaning for us was against the British.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 06:47 | 2246681 Moe Howard
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Is that a rhetorical question? Because I never asked nor demanded anyone pay taxes. The income tax amendment was never properly ratified. Pay if you wish, Harry Reid said you don't have to - strictly voluntary just like the army. Except for stop loss, so sorry.


Mon, 03/12/2012 - 12:16 | 2247436 jwoop66
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Well said, Moe.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:58 | 2246359 Moe Howard
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I was in the attic over my son's room, call to duty xbox, on the speakers, one kid talking shit, another kid says, yeah, ok, but you're still a lesbian.

Any time my boy talked back after that, I'd say, "yeah, but you're still a lesbian".

I am scared to death of losing him in this bullshit down the road.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:55 | 2246349 Moe Howard
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Joe, I will say this, from the jungle floor, with some kind of creepy rash working its way up your leg toward your crotch, the only sleep in three days from 30 minute cat naps in the sqat position because you can't even sit in that shit, can't touch a tree or you'll get black palm that will never come out, who the fuck knows who is shooting at who, and you wish to Christ you had a drink of water that tasted like water for a change, well, that jet jockey seat looks awful nice.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:42 | 2246411 toxic8
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Have I ever been in the shit? no but I've lived through a warzone Sarajevo '92 is when I fled. We managed to smuggle my pops out 5 years later in the boot of a Yugo ... had they found him he'd been shot on the spot. Dodging sniper fire carrying water canteens back to my sick grandmother for years to get shot face in the trunk of a Yugo.

On top of that I've been to Vietnam and much of S.E.A. Seen the Vietnamese people embrace visitors even had EX-Viet army smiling and welcoming me into their homes offering me the little paltry fruit they had on their table... to think we were dropping napalm on these people 40 years ago.

So don't tell me about being chickenshit, you and your pal may have each others backs even die for each other but you take orders from some Lee Emery prick you look up to and he gets his orders from the Smoking Man behind the curtain. 

Perhaps your gung ho attitude is lost around here because we all KNOW that War is a Racket and we all KNOW what the story behind IG Farben was and the Merchants of Death who treasonously sold munitions to ANYone who wanted em ... some here, a very special few .. might even know what I  mean when I say :


War ...


War never changes...

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 06:50 | 2246684 Moe Howard
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Hey, coward, go back to your muslim hellhole what are you doing here? What a cunt. Yep, you take orders from no man, right.

Why are you here if this place is so bad? You had your Yogo over there, go back cunt.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 09:35 | 2246916 prole
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Toxic8, if you go back the the land of the South Slavs, please take me with you....

Anyone? Please take me to Serbia please....

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:32 | 2247927 toxic8
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prole, I've been all over the U.S. and across the globe but I've actually never gone back. Time soon enough, surely..

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:30 | 2247916 toxic8
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I meant no personal offense Moe. I am sure you can hack it with the best of em.


However, I expected more from you than a weak ad hominem attack. Call me a cunt and tell me to go back to my homeland, sorry, unoriginal, ineffective-  and, were your parents Native American?


Montenegro is far from muslim hellhole btw. You might want to watch Casino Royale again and take notice of the azure waters and beautiful landscape ;]

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 02:52 | 2246523 mkkby
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THEN DON'T JOIN, DUMB ASS!!!  US never needed defending in over 70 years.  WAKE UP ASSHOLE!

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 08:13 | 2246785 TradingJoe
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Moe, not really, just a differentn place with different set of problems...aka...try to take a shit :)) or pee(well we had bottles for that) and some other "funny" things! But yes, you seem to KNOW what's going on!

Take care bud!

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 04:11 | 2246633 AnAnonymous
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The day ANY of you sits in a fully loaded jet on a pitch dark deck, waiting for the shooter to kick your ass into the dark and unknown enemy skies, and live to come back and tell others,


Enemies in the skies? Come on, that is the story you want to tell you, to tell your children, grand children and all.

What is the last country that the US waged war against and that has an airforce?

In a certain number of times, those airforces are so tiny that the evil dictator did not even wish to waste them because he knew that it would be charged on the future of his country past war, with US citizens knocking at the door to sell substitutions.

The skies are clear.

Check the casualties report.

Keep your story for grand children. They'll serve too and need to keep thinking what they'll do is honourable.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 08:10 | 2246778 TradingJoe
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Too bad you never had and will never have a SAM on your six...I bet my pension you'll talk differently! But hey, I am sure my grandkidds will enjoy my REAL LIFE stories, at least I still have something to tell!

Sad to see who is writing here! ZH used to be a very special place!

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 15:04 | 2248044 AnAnonymous
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I bet my pension you'll talk differently


How much is your pension? How long is this going to last?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:19 | 2246026 Bansters-in-my-...
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Time to smack the bitch.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:27 | 2246040 blueridgeviews
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The entire middle east is in turmoil since the Obuma led, Arab Spring. Why is anyone surprised at our Carrier groups parked in the region? Tyler, we, as our opponents, use the sign of force all the time. It is the art of war. No need to be alarmed, Our arme forces have it under control.


Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:23 | 2246247 Vic Vinegar
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Going green: kill yourself now and that's one less useless eater out there.

Tell us before you do, as I have some things I want to do with a styrophoam container before then.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:27 | 2246045 CalBear
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Pokemon...or is it hegemon?


Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:16 | 2246233 Vic Vinegar
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/rummages through closet, puts on most paranoid/closest-to-the-truth hat he can find

The crazy thing is that some of us are paid to write bullshit on this site, while we all have to eat foods that reduce our ability to procreate.

Carry on with your thoughts re: Pokemon, frutie. 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:28 | 2246047 Heroic Couplet
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How do we know that maybe the US military is just parking the shite? If the same were spent in US education and schools, the Republicans would be the first to gripe. Our drones are manned in Texas, so how the crap can we STILL bein danger? What did the Stuxnet virus do?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:01 | 2246195 Vic Vinegar
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Your post didn't make sense.  Try again pls. 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:44 | 2246069 Ovis Americanis
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My grandfather helped build that ship. Godspeed Enterprise. Come back home safe to begin your retirement.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:02 | 2246200 Vic Vinegar
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I doubt your grandpa did that but I bet he leeched off the American taxpayers too.  We are who we are.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 07:20 | 2246719 i-dog
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If it didn't go over there in the first place, it would go straight to a safe retirement!

It's simply adding another 90 high-performance death-deliverers (and hundreds of fighter pilots) to the hundreds already there ... all to launch an unprovoked attack on a bunch of what are usually referred to as "cave dwellers", "camel jockeys", "religious nutters", etc. In fact, most of the casualties from the "precision weapons" carried by those fighter aircraft will be unarmed civilians.

If you're not part of the solution to this constant war-mongering, then you are most definitely part of the problem.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:45 | 2246073 MelvilleSaysNo
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FALSE FLAG ALERT!  Perfect opportunity to start something with Iran.  Blow up the USS Enterprise.  It worked at Pearl Harbor, and almost worked with the USS Liberty.  It worked on 9/11, to a point, although at the expense of waking up a lot of people like me to the true goings-on of ZOG.

I have to say, if ZOG does fubar the Enterprise or any other ship, I'll have to give them credit for a sort of mule-like consistency to their well established modus operandi, as well as their utter contempt for the intelligence of the American people, which is richly deserved.  I believe the word I'm looking for is 'chutzpah'.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:36 | 2246151 Bastiat
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Maybe for a few million bucks they can get Shatner to do a war bond pitch.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:52 | 2246488's picture

"The thralls must be free, Shana. Now let me tell you about a human tradition called carpet bombing."

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:16 | 2246127 aerial view
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When it comes to war, there's nearly unlimited resources and money available but for everything else, we're always broke: why doesn't this make sense?!

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:32 | 2246144 sIewie the pi-rat
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a human being (but he resigned from politics) the left an right know not what do to do with this latter day Pontius pi-rat

Inmates Set for Release After Mississippi Pardons Upheld


article in full due to WSJ paywall


JACKSON, Miss.—Four inmates pardoned by former Gov. Haley Barbour were scheduled to be released Saturday, including a South African man whose pardon had the support of a Nobel Peace Prize winner and a former South African president.

Mr. Barbour, a nationally-known Republican who once considered running for president, pardoned nearly 200 people before finishing his second term in January. Ten of the inmates were incarcerated at the time. A judge ordered five of them to remain in prison pending the outcome of Attorney General Jim Hood's legal challenge of the pardons.

The court ruled Thursday the pardons were legal.

One of the inmates, Joshua Howard, was released Wednesday because his sentence was over. Mr. Howard was sentenced March 9, 2009, for statutory rape.

Mississippi Department of Corrections spokeswoman Tara Booth said Friday the others will be released Saturday, including Azikiwe Kambule, sentenced in 1997 to 35 years for armed carjacking and accessory after the fact to murder. Former South African President Thabo Mbeki and Nobel winner Archbishop Desmond Tutu were among numerous people who had called for a pardon or some type of compassionate release given Mr. Kambule's age, 17, at the time of his arrest. He is now 33.

Mr. Barbour has not said how or why he chose Mr. Kambule for a pardon, but he has said his Christian faith leads him to believe in second chances. A statement Thursday said the decisions were "based on repentance, rehabilitation, and redemption, leading to forgiveness."

Mr. Kambule's case got international attention when a prosecutor initially said he would seek the death penalty for those involved in slaying of social worker Pamela McGill in 1996.

At trial, Mr. Kambule testified that his friend, Santonia Berry, wanted Ms. McGill's red 1993 Dodge Stealth so they followed the 31-year-old woman home and kidnapped her at gunpoint. Mr. Kambule said Ms. McGill cried and pleaded for her life as she was taken to the woods in Madison County where Berry shot her in the head.

Mr. Berry was sentenced to life without parole. Mr. Kambule was sentenced to 30 years for armed carjacking and five years as an accessory.

Mr. Kambule's supporters said life was difficult for him in the two years he lived in Mississippi because other students made fun of his accent and he was susceptible to bad influences.

Mr. Kambule's parents plan to take him back to South Africa soon after his release, according to their attorney Cynthia Stewart.

"They are anxiously awaiting his release," Ms. Stewart said.

Mr. Booth said state regulations require that the inmates be held for 48 hours after MDOC notifies their victims and officials in the counties where the crime happened.

The others to be released on Saturday are:

—Aaron Brown, sentenced in August 1997 for murder. He had previously been sentenced for carrying a concealed weapon and possession of a controlled substance. He was serving a life sentence.

—Katherine Robertson, sentenced in March 2007 on a charge of aggravated assault. She was scheduled for release in 2015.

—Kirby Glenn Tate, sentenced in February 2004 for possession with intent to distribute marijuana and possession of the prescription drug oxycodone. He had previous drug convictions. His tentative released date was 2063.

Most of the people Mr. Barbour pardoned had been out of prison, in some cases for year, when he granted them reprieves. Of the ten who were incarcerated at the time of the pardons, five worked as inmate trusties at the Governor's Mansion, including four convicted killers and a man serving life for armed robbery. They were released in January.

A Hinds County Circuit Court judge granted Mr. Hood's request to hold the other five while the courts weighed the legality of the pardons.

Mr. Hood challenged the pardons, claiming many of them didn't follow a requirement in the state Constitution to publish notices in newspapers for 30 days.

In their 6-3 opinion, the Mississippi Supreme Court wrote "we are compelled to hold that — in each of the cases before us — it fell to the governor alone to decide whether the Constitution's publication requirement was met." The court also said it couldn't overturn the pardons because of the Constitution's separation of powers of the different branches of government.

Mr. Hood said in a statement Thursday that he will pursue an initiative to amend the Constitution "to make it very clear that the judicial branch is responsible for enforcing the 30-day notification period in the future" and called on victims groups, law enforcement and other volunteers to help obtain signatures to put a measure on the ballot.

Mr. Barbour has said Mr. Hood was playing politics. Mr. Hood is the only Democrat in a statewide office in Mississippi and the two often clashed during Mr. Barbour's terms.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:35 | 2246149 blindman
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Thursday, March 8th, 2012 | Posted by Veterans Today
The Hacks of War, The Media and Iran

What we are getting is not news. It is propaganda. The Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels, had he not killed himself to avoid capture and execution for war crimes by the Allies at the end of the war, would surely marvel at how his methods are being aped and refined by the media in one of his leading democratic enemies some seven decades after he put the German media in service to the Third Reich.

Bruce Ackerman made 'The FP Top 100 Global Thinkers List' for sounding the alarm about American radicalism. Historian, Yale University.

At least the Los Angeles Times belatedly, on March 5, ran an op-ed article by Yale Law professor Bruce Ackerman making the point that a US attack on Iran would be both a war crime and a violation of US law. As he explains, since the US is a signatory of the UN Charter–a treaty ratified by the Senate — its provisions banning aggressive wars have become, under Article II of the US Constitution, an integral part of US law.

Ackerman notes that in 1981, when Israel unilaterally bombed and destroyed the Osirik nuclear reactor in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, the US voted for a unanimous UN Security Council Resolution condemning that attack, and he quoted then British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, whose country also voted for the resolution, as saying, “Armed attack in such circumstances cannot be justified. It represents a grave breach of international law.”

But why is such information as Ackerman’s only appearing on the L.A. Times opinion page?
There is no difference between the war-mongering coverage by the mainstream media with respect to Iran today and the war-mongering coverage we experienced in 2002-2003 in the run-up to another criminal war of aggression, the Bush/Cheney invasion of Iraq — another country that posed no imminent threat to the United States.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:47 | 2246166 Moe Howard
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Look everybody is overreacting. Do you want that tub of asbestoes and nuke waste juju here being disassembled in our ports? Better it gets recycled near Iran coast.

If I was a sailor on that kamakazie run, I'd be jumping ship. Family members, make sure your SGLI is tight.

That tub is going down like Larry on Obama.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:49 | 2246168 blindman
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The Source of America's Wars - Kristol Clear

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:51 | 2246175 billsbest
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Is the USS Enterprise being setup for a possible false flag event? See also our report on the Israeli attack on our USS Liberty


Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:58 | 2246187 Moe Howard
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It's almost a joke. I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that a giant bulleye wasn't painted on it. And "I double dare you" in Farsi.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:58 | 2246191 Cabreado
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Pay attention to one thing:

these people have no idea what they're doing.

And take it to heart.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:05 | 2246203 Vic Vinegar
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The one - and only one - thing Denninger has over this site is that he doesn't hesitate to kick people out.

Fuck off, please.  Take that to heart, too.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:25 | 2246249 Cabreado
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Interesting response, Vic.

I got you all riled up.
Perhaps you are extra-special testy because you've lost control of things, and are not handling it well.

As control shifts away... take it to heart, Vic -- your particular demeanor will become more pronounced.
So then, perhaps you are the future.  Something to look forward to, eh?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:51 | 2246268 Vic Vinegar
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Nice response, C. 

I have nothing more to say than we should look for dividend paying stocks rather than complain on the internet. 

When the internet complainers enlighten us as to something better to do with our lives I'm sure we will be all ears.

Pop quiz, spacemonkeys: who do you rank as being first?




>every grey-bag comment you ever saw on ZH

The answer is any!  Commenting on the internet has never meant nothing!  Some of you are angry but never figured out how to do anything better than writing on Tyler's wall.  We'll see a return to honest money right about the time hot women desire you and me.  LOL

Semi-charmed kind of life, anyone?  Bread and circuses for some, Third Eye Blind videos on Youtube for others. Is this all there is to life?

'Cuz your angry/passionate/insightful post = a Third Eye Blind video right about now*.

* - and always.  Take a look at the comments on Monday morning and describe how it's different.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:00 | 2246292 UP Forester
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Monday morning they'll be the same, as will you.

However, by Monday evening, I'll have more food in the pantry, full tanks of gas, and more PMs to be lost in a future boating accident.


And Tuesday morning I'll awake better rested.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:12 | 2246300 Vic Vinegar
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Find us a gig and we'll be happy.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:59 | 2246496's picture



Monday, Monday, so good to me,
Monday, Monday, it was all I hoped it would be.
Oh, Monday morning, Monday morning couldn't guarantee,
That Monday evening you would still be here with me.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 02:52 | 2246524 Vic Vinegar
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JPM pays a dividend.  Internet commenting does not.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:08 | 2246373 Moe Howard
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Denniger voted for Obama. He admitted it.

I brought it up, and I was banned for "personal attack".

So quoting his self-confessed voting record is a "personal attack".

That dude is pure nutz. But he helped algore startup the interwebs.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:05 | 2246457 Vic Vinegar
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Moe your comment re: Denninger voting for Obama yet claiming to be an orignal Tea Party member was sheer brilliance.

Seriously, you fuking crushed that guy with that comment.  I still remember it even if no one else does.

But - in the grand scheme of things - what does it matter?  Here I am putting up Far East Movement* videos to round out the night.  We should probably move past this, no?

* - this fuking sucks:

We gotta move past internet commenting.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 06:54 | 2246690 Moe Howard
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Thank you. I saved my banning for the right moment. I'm glad someone noticed. But you are correct, this commenting thing is just bullshit in the virtual bar, each serving themselves their own poison. Mental masturbation if you will. But I love reading it, even the trolls. After the next move we will all be too busy stayin' alive to comment on interwebs so enjoy the little pleasure it may bring.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 03:20 | 2246552 jomama
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who shit in your oatmeal this morning?

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 06:56 | 2246693 Moe Howard
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jo mama.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:02 | 2246199 IQ 101
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I watched a ship being launched a time or 3, H.M.S Sheffield was one of them, a top of the line, super duper techno meistro of a ship,

was it 1982 that the Falklands happend ? If I remember right, 

An ancient and obsoletet Mirage popped off an Exocet missile and changed the history of naval warfare for ever, as far as I can see, the ship was ruined and later scuttled, how many sailors died ? 1982 UK vs Argentina, this is 30 years later and it is US VS IRAN, they are putting tin cans in a swimming pool for Ali Babba to shoot up ! Be serious, this is homicide of our sailors, the Iranians and everyone else, damn near, have missiles that will buy you a drink and get your phone number before turning you and yer vessel into a vapour, it is not even new technology, they are setting our people up for a bit of MURDER THEATER for the U.S consumer, this is not fucking funny.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:10 | 2246213 Bansters-in-my-...
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It will be nice to see the day that another country liberates,and brings "democracy" and "prosparity" to the USA.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:13 | 2246222 gnomon
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Go down fighting in a resource short world or just slit your throats now.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:28 | 2246256 Vic Vinegar
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See this is why people like JR and yen cross should ultimately choose an avatar and stick with it.

Cuz generally speaking you grey bags make no sense.

(Man I wish Zero Hedge could be a place where angry white guys could comment about how much they hate the world and dream of things changing...)

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:42 | 2246274 gnomon
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Ah, but that is the rub.  Reality doesn't change, (or how the world REALLY works).  It is the growing preponderance of MASOCHISTIC, DARWIN AWARD WINNING, THUMBSUCKING IDIOTS in the general population that has changed.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:14 | 2246228 JR
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With the final tour of the Enterprise, the U.S. has signaled to the world its total departure from an Era…the end of using its colossal military might for justice and the total use of its power to support the injustice demanded by Israel. The sovereign nation of Iran, as U.S. experts have said, has not taken the significant steps leading to a nuclear weapon program, but regardless, the military moves of the U.S. encircling Iran are immoral and inhumane.

Should Mitt Romney get the War Party nomination by professing to drop more  15-ton “massive ordnance penetrators” on the people of Iran than Santorum as Israel flaunts power for power’s sake, it is imperative that Ron Paul run Third Party – because this time it really is different: Ron Paul has enough support with former Republicans, Independents and Democrats to take this country back and stop this nation from using its men as cannon-fodder – to die unthinkingly at the commands of Benjamin Netanyahu.  

Bionic Mosquito, in a review of Freedom Betrayed, Herbert Hoover’s “writings and recollections of U.S. policy during the time when he left office until the early 1950s," said that Hoover gave this reply “when asked about the possibility of writing a book outlining the most significant blunders of statesmen:

‘…I am going to tell you what should be the first chapter….When Roosevelt put America in to help Russia as Hitler invaded Russia in June, 1941. We should have let those two bastards annihilate themselves.’”

Says Mosquito: “He seems to have come to this anti-interventionist views because of what he saw as the ‘baneful domestic lessons from the recent Great War,’ where

‘…the victors suffer almost equally with the vanquished’ in economic misery and ‘spiritual degradation….Those who would have us again go to war to save democracy might give a little thought to the likelihood that we would come out of any such struggle a despotism ourselves.

“Hoover believed America should stay out of this coming war.

“Americans should ‘harden our resolves’ to ‘keep out of other people’s wars,’ and we should convince Europe ‘that this is our policy.’ ‘We should have none of it. If the world is to keep the peace, then we must keep peace with dictatorships as well as with popular governments. The forms of government which other people pass through in working out their destinies is not our business. We can never herd the world into the paths of righteousness with the dogs of war.’”

Mosquito, writing on, concludes: “Whatever one thinks of the wisdom of the United States becoming involved again in a foreign war, certain of Hoover’s warnings proved out:

  • The war cost Britain its empire
  • The war handed half of Europe to the dark night of Soviet communism
  • The war cost further erosion of freedom in America
  • If it was not known at the time, it has been demonstrated since then that the axis powers had little if any desire and even less ability to mount a successful attack or invasion of the United States.”

Note: January 29, 2012 | & The Wall Street Journal & Business Week | The Pentagon has decided that its largest conventional bomb -- the 15-ton Massive Ordnance Penetrator -- needs to be made more powerful to destroy Iran's underground nuclear enrichment facilities. Boeing has received $330 million to build 20 MOPs and now the White House wants to give Boeing another $82 million to create an even deadlier bomb.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:14 | 2246383 Moe Howard
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I hope they got solar panels on them penatrators cuz o'bama likes green stuff, mabye because he says hes irish and st paddys day is coming or maybe he is a black irishman or maybe its global worming or something I can't remember.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:17 | 2246234 Hedgetard55
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I'm guessing there are about three trolls here with five or ten avatars each, slamming the troops when they should be slamming the CIC, Hillary!, or her bitch Barry. Complaining about the morality of the organization that has allowed them to bitch their whole lives w/o fear.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:39 | 2246269 wretch
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War is a racket.  Get over your troop-love -- they need saving, not adoration.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:32 | 2246257 Lore
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It's interesting that the following continues to receive so little attention.

If the Washington/Tel Aviv-promoted hysteria is already at fever pitch, wait for *** March 20, *** when the Iranian oil bourse will start trading oil in other currencies apart from the US dollar, heralding the arrival of a new oil marker to be denominated in euro, yen, yuan, rupee or a basket of currencies.

That would suit Asian clients - from BRICS members India and China to US allies Japan and South Korea, not to mention NATO member Turkey. But that would also suit European clients, to pay for oil in their own currency. Tehran - as well as many key players in the developing world - does want to sink the petrodollar. That may be the straw to break the American camel's back.
Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:43 | 2246276 Money 4 Nothing
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This is what the F_k I said 2 weeks ago, as if I wrote that article? It wasn't recieved well here at first, guess the world gets what the "threat" is now. Thanks for the link.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:09 | 2246296 Lore
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Something wrong with the link. Trying again:

The theme of breaking the central bank cartel seems to be a common undercurrent if you look back at all the recent invasions and occupations and liberations...


Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:59 | 2246291 freshfart
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"When word of crisis breaks out in Washington, it's no accident the first question that comes to everyone's lips is; where is the nearest carrier?" - Bill Clinton.

Yes he was a douche, but the quote speaks volumes.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:26 | 2246317 Penniless Pauper
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I seem to remember reading this exact same headline months ago.  I'm going out on a limb here but I bet Greece is still broke Monday morning.  This world is just like the movie ground hog day.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:32 | 2246320 Vic Vinegar
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By reading into your ID it looks like we get to fuck your wife while you watch.  You like that, right?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:41 | 2246330 Vic Vinegar
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LOL to anyone who reads what "Penniless Pauper" has to say with a bit of sincerity.  What a fuking sad sack that guy pretends to be.

If a dumbfuck is born every minute per PT Barnum, then why fight it, huh?

Tyler - bring back the good old days on this site, when there were "serious" debates!  They meant...___ to me.


Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:44 | 2246335 Ocean22
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There will be no war.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:00 | 2246361 mt paul
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would not be surprized

if that old rust bucket

got sunk in the middle

of the straits of Hormuz...

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:02 | 2246363 StarkFistofRemoval
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It's a D Koi.


What else happened this week?

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:38 | 2246417 ekm
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I don't know how long it takes for it to arrive at Hormuz, but I have a bet that attack will occur on March 20 or sooner.

Am I going to lose the bet?

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:44 | 2246422 Moe Howard
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My magic 8 ball sez "Nope".

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:54 | 2246444 ekm
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Shit. I always lose when I bet in  European Champions League. Now this one also.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:45 | 2246423 UnderDeGun
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Check with the Saudis. O-bow-man is at the kings service.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:53 | 2246442 ekm
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True dat

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:42 | 2246419 UnderDeGun
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I just hope its just her final voyage and not her "long walk" to a different end. Talk about something that would whip up the public like the towers falling.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:43 | 2246420 Moe Howard
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Hey, maybe they got a Rothchild Central Bank on that old carrier, they are bringing it to Iran as a gift, because I heard they don't have one, and they really need one. How can you deal with the bank of international settlements if you don't have a Rothchild Central Fucking Bank? Shit, do we have to provide everything to these dumb ass ragheds?

In related news, Ben Shalom Bernake is worried that there may not be enough linen to produce the necessary fiat currency to bail out every fucking bank in the world. The test plastic fake money in Canada is not working out, too much petroleum needed, at a future $500 Bernake wacky bucks a barrel, the cost in crude makes it prohibitve.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:47 | 2246428 mt paul
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' Bernake whacky bucks '

too high...

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:48 | 2246430 Joaquin Menendez
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Well, if I were to choose which big boat to loose at another Pearl Harbor or Havana, certainly the outdated white elephant Enterprise comes to mind with 4000 sailor's lives it will be an event similar to 9-11.  If the Iranians are not up to blowing it up than we will pay the Israelies to do it or our own submarines will turn on it.  One way or another the a__h___s that rule the oil economy will get their war and profits.  Are China and Russia willing to fight back and start WWIII?  Oh goody, I can't WAIT to find out.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:48 | 2246431 Joaquin Menendez
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Well, if I were to choose which big boat to loose at another Pearl Harbor or Havana, certainly the outdated white elephant Enterprise comes to mind with 4000 sailor's lives it will be an event similar to 9-11.  If the Iranians are not up to blowing it up than we will pay the Israelies to do it or our own submarines will turn on it.  One way or another the a__h___s that rule the oil economy will get their war and profits.  Are China and Russia willing to fight back and start WWIII?  Oh goody, I can't WAIT to find out.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:56 | 2246445 Moe Howard
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Take that bag off your hed and stop double posting.

Who is going to get the asbestos abatment contract for the straits of homos after that white elephant gets blown to bits? Go long asbestos abatment. The saudis are going to be handing out contracts left and right.


Eight fucking reactors? Did I hear that right? Nevermind on the asbestos. TEPCO is gonna get all the contracts. I hear they got a lot of experince cleaning up nuke shit near water, sea water that is.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:46 | 2246486 Joaquin Menendez
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What a great way to decomission those reactors, all the stuff goes into the ocean, ask Tepco.  The only reason the Enterprise hasn't been decomissioned is because of eight reactors and I'm sure after 50 years they are very radioactive.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 06:59 | 2246698 Moe Howard
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Thank you for not double posting. Please remove the bag from your hed.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:10 | 2246459 JohnKozac
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Q: How much is this costing us?

Tue, 03/13/2012 - 15:23 | 2251405 Money 4 Nothing
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1. Which part? Us, now or later? UN & US.

2. If war does break out, the ink on NDAA isn't even dry yet but took effect 2012-3-1 so a joint funding through US & UN along with our tacked on National Debt will be  footing the bill.

3. We can thank our Grandchildren for their fractional reserve participation in years to come.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:19 | 2246462 dieyoung
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My friend is on that ship. I told him about the false flag speculations and explained to him that I couldn't be sure of anything, only that I wanted him to know that some people were talking about this, regardless how far fetched it may seem as his life could potentially be in danger.   He seemed unconvinced, and I'd like to think he's right but man the times they are a-changin'...and fast.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:29 | 2246472 Thomas Jefferson
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Its good you planted the seed in his mind.  If anything nefarious happens to that ship he will remember what you said.  That alone might save his life.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:34 | 2246475 Vic Vinegar
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It's good we have the internet.  At least I can reply to "Thomas Jefferson" with proper grammar and a Katy Perry video.

/somewhere Sally Hemmings sulks

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:31 | 2246474 Vic Vinegar
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Shit, dude - does your friend know that your worthless internet comment cancels mine out...and fast.

To top it off it off, he's probably going to die in a false flag incident? 

It's true what they say - March comes in like a lion, goes out like a lamb.  Goddamn you false flags!

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:19 | 2246463 dieyoung
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double post

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 02:29 | 2246510 Vic Vinegar
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Not a double post!

Maybe one day the good spacemonkeys will get on the same page. Until then we get Compassionate Fascist's fantasies and Selena Gomez videos.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:27 | 2246470 Blanche DuBois
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According to the Dr. of the above article, Iran, Turkey, and Syria may have a few surprises up their sleeves...

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:37 | 2246478 pavman
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You know what's really messed up?  I'm a big conspiracy theory buff, not because I believe them, but they're cheaper than a movie and they have that could be true feel.

Well according to conspiracy theories I've recently reviewed on the internets, the pagan illuminati satanist conspiracy, that is basically the granddaddy of all theories and ties all the other conspiracies together, is all about pagan dates for weird howl at the moon, human sacrifice rituals.  Apparently the Vernal Equinox is a huge pagan bloodletting holiday. Anyway, I don't like conspiracy theories that turn into reality, but I'm going to pay attention because oh gee...war with iran ... let's see if it starts on or just after the Vernal Equinox.... and then really kicks into high gear April 19 - May 1.

Of course, the video I watched was narrated by a 16-year old who was still going through puberty, but discounting this and the whole conspiracy theory stigma, there might just be something to this one... :D

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:54 | 2246489 Olympia
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World War III - The First Private War in History

In 1991, when George Bush senior attacked Iraq and tried to establish the New World Order, has actually provoked a World War. A war the human kind has never seen before; a world war that may not have had the provocative blood-letting of the previous wars, nevertheless its consequences were equally bad for all the peoples. A financial world war, the consequences of which may not have been dead or amputated men and ruins, but in any case they were equally disastrous for both the peoples and the environment.

Because of that war we have reached the current point; We have reached the point to have more than one billion people starving on an everyday basis; We have reached a point that babies die every few seconds of famine and diseases that were considered to be eliminated; We have reached a point where a great part of the human population strives to survive with just a dollar per day; We have reached a point where thousands of people become living animals used for experiments of pharmaceutical companies just for survival; We have reached a point where some private men make decisions in their offices regarding military operations against peoples.

Authored by Panagiotis TRAIANOU.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 02:01 | 2246499 OldPhart
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Meanwhile, back at home, a bill has been introduced to impeach Obama for high crime and misdemeanor:



H. CON. RES. 107

Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force

by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress

constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under

article II, section 4 of the Constitution.


March 7, 2012 


submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred

to the Committee on the Judiciary





Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive

military force by a President without prior and clear

authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable

high crime and misdemeanor under article II,

section 4 of the Constitution.


Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring

Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I,

section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution: Now, therefore,

be it


1 Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate 

2 concurring), That it is the sense of Congress that, except

3 in response to an actual or imminent attack against the

4 territory of the United States, the use of offensive military





1 force by a President without prior and clear authorization

2 of an Act of Congress violates Congress’s exclusive power

3 to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the

4 Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable

5 high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4

6 of the Constitution.


Mon, 03/12/2012 - 03:15 | 2246538 jomama
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almost worth a chuckle

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 03:56 | 2246629 AnAnonymous
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Yes indeed.

Help to keep the pretending clean.

Gives work to US citizen politicians, gives them a sense of matter.

Known outcome.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 03:55 | 2246508 DoubleTap
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@Hedgetard55 & TradingJoe

I enlisted right after 9-11. I was a "conservative" and wanted do the "patriotic" thing and serve my country. I was also wanting to suck on the .gov teet with the benefits/welfare (real conservative right?)

So, Hedgetard55 & TJ, do I have your promission to talk? I hope so. I'm embarrassed that I was foolish enough to believe any bullshit put out by the lying .gov. I wasn't going to fight for anyone's rights or to protect our county. I was a fucking pawn and nothing more than cannon fodder. Same as your stupid fucking ass.

The difference between you and I is that I have been able to wake up and see the bullshit propaganda and you still can't. Wearing your state sacntioned goon custome is the only thing that has given you purpose in your pathetic life so you cling to it as if your service meant something to the U.S. I'm sure you love your benefits/welfare that the Nanny state gives to you each month. Believing somehow that you're entitled to another mans labor because you believed you "served" your country.

Lots of posters can talk shit because it's their God given right too. They aren't cowards or pussy because they had the sense to not join the military. Not because of retarded government employees, who are parasites on the private sector, who think they are special and should be idolized by the lowly citizens of the country. Do you comprehend the purpose of your "service". It is so people can talk shit if they choose and about whoever they choose. .Gov employees aren't a priviledged class to be idolized. So shut your cock hole. I've met my fair share of pussies in the Army.


*Disclaimer: I don't want anyone thinking that since I enlisted I deployed. I never deployed. I was a month from getting out when my unit deployed in 2003. Then I went AWOL when I was stop-lossed, the week after they deployed. And that I am proud of. I had the HONOR and INTEGRITY to do the right thing. I gave the bird to Big Brother and the fucking Nanny state U.S. government. See I believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Not this horseshit tyrannical kleptocracy government that has usurped the real United States of America. The .gov isn't going to fight oversees for your rights. They don't give a shit about your rights. Can't you wake up and realize that? There are many good people in the military, but they have to wake up and see the patriotic propaganda they are being fed. They need to fight our most immediate threat, our own .gov.


Mon, 03/12/2012 - 02:51 | 2246522 nah
Mon, 03/12/2012 - 02:52 | 2246525 DutchR
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It's about 20 weeks till the biggest distraction on earth, the one Georgia tried.......

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 03:01 | 2246530 Outlaw Of The W...
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I personally hope that londonistan, brussels, dc, and tel aviv are all nuked into oblivion.


I don't care how, I don't care who.


I'll fight my way out of this jew hellhole and take vengeance on the jews' daughters and their media.


Lists have been made.  Targets have been assigned,


At my command, unleash..............

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 03:26 | 2246557 Vic Vinegar
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A) There are some really hot J's out there and B) was Jesus a Christian?  I hope so!

Personally, I think a lot of the vitriol directed towards Jews comes from confused Christians.  Fundamentally it's a pretty fuked up belief system.

What are your thoughts, Outlaw?  More importantly, where is Peyton Manning going to end up?

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 04:59 | 2246643 obelisks
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I still don't understand how a country of only 6 million people ( and out of them it is reckoned

only about 10,000 of them are the worst kind of Zionists ) can exert so much power over the rest of the world. It just does not make any sense? but I take comfort from knowing America and Israel wants to take on a nation which plays chess during its past time instead of sitting in front of the TV munching hamburgers watching dancing with the stars.

On top of that look at Vietnam, Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan and there is nothing you can point to as being a success

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 06:20 | 2246674 ChrisFromMorningside
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"(and out of them it is reckoned only about 10,000 of them are the worst kind of Zionists)"

There are over 500,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank, East Jersulaem and Golan Heights. In 2009 over 900,000 people voted for pro-settlement expansion / hard-line religious parties of Shas, National Union, United Torah Judaism and Yisrael Beiteinu. Literature popular in the settlers' fundamentalist religious movement includes stuff like this: (Haaretz - West Bank rabbi: Jews can kill Gentiles who threaten -- Permits even the murder of babies and children who pose threat). There are probably just as many passive supporters of the movement among the non-voting Israeli public and in the U.S. So I think you're really underestimating the strength of the Zionist / Israeli theocratic movement within Judaism.

As for their power over U.S policy ... Jews have done very well for themselves so even though they are a tiny minority in the wider population, they are concentrated in the upper tiers of society, especially in media and finance. That gives them strong disproportional clout. They have such influence over discourse in the U.S. that even voicing that reality would be considered anti-Semitic by many.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 09:22 | 2246884 obelisks
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oh thanks Chris. I didn't realise they had such numbers.

I have to confess that 10,000 figure was one I heard Ahmadinejad quote in a recent interview. he seemed plausible because he was trying to emphasise that not all Jews should be considered bad. Anyway I have more faith in what he says that any of our esteemed Western leaders

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 11:19 | 2247229 Arthur
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Most in the West bank went for the cheap housing.  There are only a handful of true radical *ssholes.

Most will leave the West bank without a problem.  Most are within a mile of the pre 67 border and are within a zone of somewhat defensible borders and within the wall that was built to keep out terrorist attacks.  The wall has worked for better or worse so you should expect it to stay.  Barak offered to return 98% of the West Bank in return for Peace.   The PLO said no and launched their ill fated Intifada, which resulted in a wall being built.

The Israelis pulled out of Gaza.  Some peace, 50 rockets were launched into Israel this weekend alone.

Three years ago allot of folks were yelling at Israel to return the Golan Heights to Syria.  Just imagine, the Syrians have no problem killing their own women and children.  What would they do to Israel if they had a chance?  It would not be pretty.

Kind of hard to live in peace when most of your neighbors want to see you destroyed.




Mon, 03/12/2012 - 10:17 | 2247021 goldfish1
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Obvious shill/plant.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 03:08 | 2246532 pcrs
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Is that the aircraft carrier that is almost written off and is the best candidate to be sunk in a false flag, ehh I mean terrorist attack that will escalate to the desired unavoidable war with Iran?

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 05:06 | 2246646 Tompooz
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March 21--Nowrouz,   Persian New Year.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 10:08 | 2247002 goldfish1
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Nowrouz is the same as SPRING EQUINOX        

March 20, 1:14 A.M. EDT

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 05:35 | 2246656 ivars
Mon, 03/12/2012 - 06:53 | 2246689 michael.suede
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The conspiracy theorists are postulating that the Big E will be sunk in a false flag attack to start the war and to save the Navy millions in decommissioning costs.  The cost to decom all 8 of the carrier's reactors is astronomical.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 07:04 | 2246704 Moe Howard
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TEPCO has already bid on the project. They want to use the persian kitty gulf as the "dry dock".

They requested all surrounding metal be removed first, and abestos be "blasted away" so they could safely contain reactors with sea water bath technique.

Those japs sure know how to bid a contract.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 07:08 | 2246710 Winston Churchill
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Mon, 03/12/2012 - 08:06 | 2246773 BeerBrewer09
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"A global force for good."

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 11:28 | 2247250 casper007
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Quote a movie here " well we didnt get dressed for nothing" ..... the  build up aint for nothing folks we all know where this is heading. As to when ? Obama knows, ask him.

So i bet Isreal will do the first steps and we the innocent get dragged in.. The USA lets face it can't be the one to start more wars right now. As for Russia joining - no forget it ! They are bought off, yes they will object and stomp their feet but $200 oil will make Russia very rich, yes i'm sure russia will supply equipment under the table to IRAN to help fight the USA but thats it. China well i'm sure Saudia Arabia has promised oil - deals are already inplace....

So IRAN your fooked, i'm feel horrible for the innocent people of iran that do want freedom and change but their idiot gov't wont step aside.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 13:16 | 2247676 blindman
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the plop thickens ...
Published 03:13 12.03.12
Latest update 03:13 12.03.12
Ex-Israeli spymaster: Iran response to Israeli attack would be devastating
Former Mossad head Meir Dagan says military action against Iran will not stop the Islamic Republic from attaining the bomb.
By Haaretz
" ..Former Mossad chief Meir Dagan said that an Israeli strike on Iran would lead to a missile attack on Israel that would have a "devastating impact" on the country, in an interview that aired Sunday on CBS's 60 minutes.

According to Dagan, an attack will start a regional war. “And wars, you know how they start. You never know how you are ending it," he said."

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:12 | 2247841 blindman
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Texe Marrs : The Breakdown & Plundering of America

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!