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Dear Obese America: Uncle Sam Wants To Regulate What You Eat
It seems that the recent foray of Mayor Bloomberg into determining what one may and may not consume based on calorie count, was just the appetizer, so to say. As some may recall, back in March we wrote that based on OECD predictions, up to 75% of the US nation will be overweight or obese. Now, none other than Uncle Sam has gotten wind that his population will soon be primarily made up of fat people. So he has a solution, which is in the vein of all other solutions where Uncle Sam is concerned: regulate, regulate, regulate.
From Bloomberg: "Governments should regulate food companies on unhealthy ingredients in products that contribute to obesity, an epidemic that now affects 1-in-3 Americans and costs the U.S. $150 billion a year, said New York City Health Commissioner Thomas Farley. More than education and voluntary action by companies is needed, Farley said. New York’s limit on sugary soft drink sales is one example of the steps governments must take to stop the rise of obesity, he said today at a press conference on the topic held by the Journal of the American Medical Association." Punchline #1: "Publicly traded food companies, charged with making a profit for their shareholders, can’t be relied upon to make their foods more nutritious, Farley said." In other words, Uncle Sam knows what is best for you, always. Punchline #2: "There is a clear role for government in the solution,” Farley said. “Obesity rates have been rising considerably for the last 30 to 40 years. If we don’t do anything, I think it is a fair prediction that they will continue to rise." Surely, when it comes to things that are soaring which will not stop soaring unless something is done, the US government knows best: after all just look at Exhibit A: the US Debt, which sadly the US government has been "regulating" pretty much since the beginning.
More:
About 60 percent of adults in New York City are overweight or obese and 1-in-8 have diabetes, which is often caused by obesity, Farley said. A person with a body mass index of at least 30 is considered obese, according to the National Institutes of Health. The BMI is calculated using height and weight. A man who is 6 feet tall and weighed more than 220 pounds would be considered obese using the formula.
The size of a soda has increased from about 6.5 ounces in the 1960s to 20 ounces today, according to Farley. He said surveys have found that Americans eat 200 to 600 more calories a day than they did in the 1970s and that sugary drinks are playing a role in that added calorie consumption.
The city’s soda size rule is not government restriction on choice, adding that people can consume as much as they want at restaurants as long as it isn’t with a cup larger than 16 ounces, Farley said.
And just in case there was any confusion where this is going...
“While the idea of government regulation on portion size is new, we think it makes all the sense in the world,” Farley said.
Our advice: eat up America. Very soon you will need permission from your friendly local government constable to not only chew, but swallow.
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Freedom = Crimethink.
and a bite for daddy
and a bite for Obama
and a bite for the FED
and a bite for the Banks
and a bite for monsanto
...
Which would you trust more:
a 90 day trial conducted by the co. with an interest in selling the product being tested
or
2 year study by an impartial researcher
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/19/us-gmcrops-safety-idUSBRE88I0L020120919
(?)
E. Seralini "... is a detective down in..." Frances,
"You know he knows just exactly what the facts is
He ain't gonna let (Monstrous Santa) escape justice
He makes his livin' off of other people's taxes..." -Steve Miller Band (more or less)
tumours love corn syrup: http://www.thebetterhealthstore.com/Newsletter/081010_Cancer-Fructose_02.html
In any case I agree that once you know the truth, the choice is youuuuurs,
"You can get with this, or you can get with that. You can get with this, you can get with that. You can get with this or you can get with that..." I guess you're not with this, because you are kinda fat.
Eating engine number 9, on the NY transit line, before Big Gulp spills on the tracks, Slurp it up! Slurp it up! Slurp it up! Back breasts obscene, back on the scene, so irresponsibly disgusting the State's intervened! You be the outcast, down for the settle. Won't play 'walk', Won't play the 'pedal'-Black Sheep (hardly)
The iBurger is 40% thinner and comes with one additional row of lettuce.
The government should in no way shape or form be involved in this. People should have some self control.
http://jimrickards.blogspot.ca/
Easiest way to lose weight ever:
Strip naked every morning and stand in front of a full length mirror and repeat:
"I am responsible for this."
Repeat every morning until you either shoot yourself or you can actually say that proudly.
pods
Death is the ultimate lose weight quick scheme.
I personally do not have a problem letting the government help control people who cannot control themselves... fuuuuukkk yewww if you cannot control yourself or not have red meat and cola!
Where's the beef? All you young whippersnappers won't know what the hell I'm talking about so.....
http://youtu.be/Ug75diEyiA0
Oh I know where it is...
*looks for can opener*
That's Mystery Meat.
I guess our local friendly government will never flat out say "EAT SHIT". But then actions do speak louder than words.
Totalitarian Government
An out of control, bloated government is going to teach the people about restraint?
Go sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
pods
It's almost as ludicrous as Congress lecturing Americans on their spending habits.
...or a fat Surgeon General.
...or a tax-dodging Treasury Secretary.
...or a war monger Nobel Peace Prize POTUS.
Touche....
You could have worked in W's contrived label as the Education president...
O'bomb-a and his cronies just as evil and incompetent as Shrub's? Say it ain't so! /s
Free yourself from the Red/Blue, conservative/liberal paradigm, dude.
You are obviously an idiot...
In case you didn't notice I complimented HH on his post and suggested he could have added the Education president as a further example...
Yes, they are all crooks, but a good chunk of one side seems too preoccupied with the personal lives of others and is more than willing to shove a Bible in my face...
DERP TAX SUGAR/HFCS/SALT DERP!
The American Diabetic Association and National Woman's Assoc fought her nomination ...siad she was a "bad example for others."
They seem to have lost.
Go figure that subsidized/fully funded health care creates distortions in public health. Perhaps we should take away/limit the social safety nets and then watch health improve. As with all diets, it is a question of motivation to overcome food obsessions, compulsions, and addictions.
How the fuck do you explain the vast majority of social democracies and their obesity rates?
Do you practice being ignorant or is it a natural gift?
Eh? They are all fat and getting fatter. Whatever it is that is causing it, they are not immune, if that is what you are implying.
How the fuck do you explain the vast majority of social democracies and their obesity rates?
Culture, principally.
"How the fuck do you explain the vast majority of social democracies and their (lower) obesity rates?"
Here's how: look at the ratio between what a national gov't budgets for 'defense' vs. education.
In the US that's ~ 20:1
Norway ~1:2
Sweden ~1:4
Finland ~1:3
Uh, that's because 90% of primary and secondary education spending in the US happens at the local (town, district) level.
Uh, even assuming that's not the case in the other examples I've provided, you think you can get that US ratio down from 20:1 to, say, even 1:1?
Please proceed.
Actually, it's a little better than 1:1. Google is your friend, but here, I'll take care of it for you
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_education_spending_20.html
Education (all, including FED): 941B
Defense: 903B
For the record, I believe we as a nation are overpaying (masively, on the education side) for the quality of service we're receiving in both of these line-items.
Well done, even after we accept the assumptions that
a)there is no equivalent extra spending locally in my other examples
and
b)that that 903 B 'defense' figure isn't egregiously lowballed,
my point still stands! LARGE.
http://www.hivehealthmedia.com/world-obesity-stats-2010/
Frankly, I wouldn't care so much about the money in either case (defense or education) if I thought we were getting anywhere near the value such sums should command. We're not, because we don't give a shit, and that's pretty much the sad state of what passes for our "culture".
Except for the 'not caring where the money is spent' portion of your comment, I agree.
Though in regards to obesity rates it looks like some of my examples are getting better value for their money than others, if results count for anything.
I'm sure when the fourth Reich, or the second USSR tries to invade Finland/Norway/Sweden that they would never think of calling us fat, stupid Americans, either.
European budgets are all based on the fact that they have a mutual defense treaty with a country that can effectively destroy every other military on the planet at will.
Maybe, though some might consider what the US plutocrats have their military doing worldwide a threat to peace, rather than a deterrent to war, but that is another discussion. Either way it doesn't affect the ratios.
RE:"I'm sure when the fourth Reich, or the second USSR tries to invade Finland/Norway/Sweden that they would never think of calling us fat, stupid Americans, either."
hahah! Haven't you hear'd? Almost all I hear 'round these here parts is that that there has already done happened way back. Or is jis' about to.... sho' 'nough. So where were the one world police on that one then?
And 'ignorance' isn't necessarily a result of stupidity; it can a be a result of conditioning. Stupidity is a condition that results in ignorance.
They can start by putting limits on what the 47% can buy with their Snap™ card.
Or, err, maybe stop subsidizing sugar and corn syrup? Why give money to people to grow it, just to turn around and tax it?
To help your friends, of course.
A 2010 study completed by the Harvard School of Public Health using the 2007 Adult California Health Interview Survey (which tracks Body Mass Index and obesity data among Californians) found that obesity rates among SNAP participants were 30% higher than among non-participants, when adjusted for socio-demographic characteristics, food insecurity, and participation in other programs.
For damn sure, whenever I'm at the supermarket and a person in front of me has a belt covered with Coca Cola, Froot Loops, Oscar Meyer weiners, and Entenmann's cakes, I KNOW it'll be paid with EBT.
On the other hand, if the SNAPpers *weren't* buying that stuff, it probably wouldn't be available the one time a year I want to buy some, because frankly, nobody in this 'hood could EVER afford a $6 box of donuts without some help.
I wonder if they adjusted for "don't have a job"?
I'm from the government and I am here to help you. Whether you like it or not.
pods
Fuck the US gov't. First have everyone sitting at home cause they shipped all the fucking jobs overseas, now bitch cause you have nothing to do but sit around and get fat?
Just another day for training the herd for these satanic cum belching morons.
Oh and btw thanks to QE3 those that can "still afford" to eat will be forced to eat mostly junk and processed foods. Minimum wage jobs don't buy a healthy diet. It's fucking expensive to eat healthy. Save me the garden bullshit, not everyone has that option.
I've an idea, let's close all the McDonalds in the US and get rid of gazillions of jobs from one of our biggest employers and see if that saves any fucking money. Anything these snot-nosed gov't officials touch turns to pure dog shit.
You sound like a fat person
I'm not fat! I'm big boned!!
No, I am overweight but not a fat slob. I just get sick of all the gov't intervention. I'm sure they already have mass-mailers ready for when the nukes strike telling us what we can and cannot do. I'd like to go shove a cheeseburger up their asses.
So you can be fat and happy. Just don't sit by me on an airplane, please.
We will lose weight because food will be too expenisve to eat it too much. We will be walking everywhere because gas will be too expensive.
The future of America is bleak for most to say the least.
But before I starve to death I think Ill take as many statist parasites with me as I can. Its not my fault this country is so fucked up. My last dying act will be to punish as many of the mother fuckers that ruined this once fine country as I can.
Have a great day.
The plan is not to confiscate the gold, but to confiscate the food!
"They'll turn us all into beggars, because they're easier to please."
Yep, that's why farmland is growing more expensive during a real estate depression. What do you think these bankers are buying with their huge bonuses?
As far as fat America, no one has mentioned bleached/processed wheat and glutten content. That and corn syrup are both big time fat contibutors. Yeah, it comes down to diet but the government certainly helped create the peoblem - and now they wan't to come in riding in with the solution.
I think the church lady had a fitting phrase for this...
Gluten itself is OK, it's just coupled with the other stuff it causes a problem. Gluten is protein. Most of the reason it has a bad rap has to do with gumming up people's intestines.
Would be tough to make a decent white-bread without a bit extra gluten. Useful for cakes, too, especially Angel's Food. (Which I always thought has the texture of a live sea-sponge.)
Gluten is a protein that a large number of people have a hard time digesting. Not just Celiac's patients, normal people.
And the results of many diagnosed ADHD kids and foggy headed adults who go off gluten and start eating a nutrient dense diet are amazing.
pods
The idea that healthy isn't cheap is a myth, and that's besides the fact that buying and eating less is obviously cheaper.
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/cheap-healthy-15-nutritious-foods-about-2-dollars
I've heard the healthy food is too expensive argument before. Funny thing is, the people who make this argument don't actually know how much fresh produce costs because they zoom past it on the way to the chips isle.
You can get a bunch of banana's for $1.39. You can get a bag of carrots for $2. $5 will get you a days' supply of potatoes. A whole watermelon is $5. A lot more calories and nutrition than spending the same amount at McDonalds.
"people who make this argument don't actually know how much fresh produce costs because they zoom past it on the way to the chips isle"
That was hilarious.
I had a vision of this: http://www.travel-golf.org/images/z_obese_disability_mobility.jpg
or this:
http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/memes-this-is-why-im-fat.jpg
ori
And the sugars are so additictive. Try cutting out cokes for a few weeks then drink one to see how overly sweet it tastes.
Junk food (and other processed crap) is even more expensive than healthy food. The problem is everyone is too lazy (or claims to be too busy) to prepare healthy food and eat it reasonable quantities.
Healthy does not mean arugula from Whole Foods or a trip to the pre-fab dish counter at the grocery store. Beans, Grains, Animal Proteins, Shrubbery- the combinations and quantities are not rocket science.
And regardless of any Fascist "heath qotient" assigned to a given dish, if someone stuffs themselves full of it, they're going to get FATTER. It's simple arithmatic Calories Consumed - Calories Expended (is a positive or a negative #).
It's hard to eat 1000 calories worth of apples or broccoli, but much easier to eat 1000 calories of crap. Or is that just me?
Government nanny state again
Like in the UK the government made a law so you can't buy more than two packs (32 tablets) of paracetamol or ibruprofen at a time..
So all I do is walk back into the shop again and buy another two packets and often go to the same checkout!
How ridiculous is that
It's the cocodamol they don't want you getting too much of.
Cold water extraction and all that ...
America's lost the plot.
DavidC
Fat people killing themselves with saturated fat is costing me money. I'll complain about the govt when it doesn't.
Stupid stupid fat people.
Killing themselves with sugar and white flour, more likely.
Killing themselves with Gov't subsidized junk food.
McDonalds:
Gov't subsidized HFCS soda
Gov't subsidized Feedlot corn fed beef
Gov't subsidized canola for deep frying fries.
I'll worry about taxpayer costs of healthcare after the Gov't stops promoting obesity. Not to mention the federal school breakfast/lunch program that feeds kids pizza for breakfast.
What? You're implying that the government is demanding they solve the problems they themselves created? Crazy talk! There's a FEMA re-education camp to fix that.
The history of "government nutrution" is that every 10-years or so (or every new Administration or so) Da Feds tell us what we need to eat to stay "healthy" - and every 10-years or so we're fatter.
Seems to me my great-grandparents knew the secret - portion control, eat only what looks like food (as in, nothing "processed") and physical work every day. They lived into their 90's. Sadly our "GO GO GO" culture doesn't seem to fit that lifestyle very much, so all our food has to be fast, cheap, processed, and often-as-not to-go - and that's what's killing us.
"Gov't nutrition" I suppose it was just a coincidence that the decades old food pyramid seemed directly proportional to what part of the food industry that was subsidized. Bread and cereals at the bottom? really? and not fruits and vegetables? Not high protein low fat items like cottage cheese and chicken breast?
The gov't tells us to eat what gets the most attention in the farm bill namely, empty carbs made with subsidized grains.
This is an actual problem that Moochelle could actually address as First Lady. What would the USA look like if most of our food subsidies went to nutrient-dense foods, stevia, and whole foods, but only at the consumer level, rather than as farm subsidies?
And the rise in body PH acidity they provoke, along with cow milk products...which, may I remind y'all, are chemically transformed into opioids in your small intestine by some cheeky enzymes... Remove milk from autistic patient and you have definite improvement real quick. Look it up on duckduckgo.com
Gluten, Sucrose and Lactose are a big NO NO if you wanna stay healthy. Looks like those 60% Yorkers are ready for culling... 60% that's incredible, that's just insane, goes to show if people aren't even smart enough to manage their diets, how the fuck could they be smart enough for any fucking thing else?!
God bless America (the Southern one that is), The Northern one is an epic fail of an empire, and short-lived as well!
In the near future, when you're approached by a guy on the street corner who offers to sell you some "sugar", he'll actually be trying to sell you some sugar.
The only reason fat people cost you money is because of the government you dipshit (no offense).
Like cigarette smoking, it doesn't cost any tax money. As a matter of fact, it saves money. If a lot more people died before reaching age 65, it would save the US a ton of money. It's the old lady who lives to 93 who costs much more.
It's the brutal truth.
Throw granny from the train, already.
It wouldn't be costing you money if the government wasn't involved in it in the first place. This is all about Control they implement it in various programs.
If ever there was empiracal evidence that it's all about power...this is it. Bloomberg made his billions, then he went into politics, now he wants to run your life. "Poor man wanna be rich, rich man wanna be king, and a king ain't satisfied until he rules everything..." Da Boss
It is very easy...
No wordy bull shit regulations, a simple salt/HFCS/Sugar tax...
Cut some other tax to make it rev. neutral....
Tax bad behaviour, homo economicus will figure it out....
Now, Flame away...
This is the answer. Put a tax on all unhealthly ingredients. Justify because eating unhealthy puts an unfair burdon on the healthcare system. Sure you want to get fat..fine..pay for it. Pay for all your diabetes doctor visits that are going to happen in 25 years.
Make sure healthy food is is cheaper.
I've got a few ideas (yes I know some of them might not be realistic but It's the internet damnit -- let me have my moment).
I've got more but... I'll just stop now.
What's the use right? They'll create the dumbest, most asinine set of regulations. It will cost 7 trillion dollars to implement and people will still be snorting McRibs anyways.
/sarc off
Long oversized caskets? We could just make being "unhealthy" illegal and solve the problem too.
I would find the closest ADHD kid, give him my ebt/snap card and tell him to run around the block a few hundred times promising them a snickers bar to solve problem 1 which will give me enough credits to not care about number 3 and by the time number 2 matters I'll be too fat to care.
Sonufa bitch!
Or we could just stop cost-shifting and make everyone pay for their own health care.
I know, I know, not enough government involvement for dumbass kids like you, so clearly that insane idea has no legs.
"Tax bad behaviour"
Umm, fuck off?!?
But haven't you repeatedly assured us that we are all going to starve to death any day now due to peak oil + global warming?
If so, why do we need a fat tax? Are you backing down on your peak everything theory?
Salt is necessary for life. Not the crap used for flavorings, coloring agents and preservatives but basic NaCl. You shouldn't put that on the same level with HFCS and sugar.
As far as taxing bad behavior, how about people figuring out how to take care of themselves instead? It's not impossible.
Excess salt.. if you wish...
So, you are advocating the pipe dream of creating an educated populous when every study indiucates the current trend is in the opposite direction...
Can I call you a naive Idealist?
I'd rather tilt at the windmill that is educating the public than to cry for yet more government control of our lives.
So you prefer corporate control then? You need to learn more about the food industry and how they operate...
Derp, strawman is straw.
You have repeated displayed the analytic abilities of particularly retarded blowfish...
Now is no exception....
From straw to ad hominim. What's next?
I'm just going to chalk this one up as a "goes limp".
What strawman?
The one where some food companies manipulate ingredients to fool the body to eat more of a product that is reasonably healthy? Pretty much the same thing as Coca-Cola once using cocaine but a tad more subtle, i.e. beyond your hyper-atrophied analytic abilities...
My fuck, all I have to do is get you to explain why you think AGW is wrong to demonstrate my point....
Now go back and reinsert your head into the lib-tard echo chamber.....
You can spot the strwaman if you try a little.
fuu
I'd rather tilt at the windmill that is educating the public than to cry for yet more government control of our lives.
Flakmeister
So you prefer corporate control then?
Can you even synthesize a new idea from two apparently unrelated ones or must you be spoon-fed at every stage?
You're flailing now.
You implied a false dichotomy; fuu must choose between government control or corporate control.
I'm guessing he would choose self-control.
You can only exercise that judiciously if all the relevant facts are available, which, if there are no consequences for lying, they won't ever be.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that.
Boomer pretty much layed it out, imo.
I just noted that without access to all the relevant information, exercising an appropriate amount of self control is impossible, or merely luck. And if there are profits to be had, but no consequences (that can't be externalized) for lying or misleading, get ready to have them both laid on thick. Eg."Smoking Cures Canker sores! And Tooth Decay! Keeps you Thin! 4 out of 5 Doctors Recommend Popeye Cigarettes, for all your Children's Smoking Needs. Addictive Schmidictive-Are you a Man or a nonsmoking Mouse?", or one of my favourites 'Dilution is the solution'.
The fact is that amoral psycopaths have to be forced to behave decently, and since "capitalism provides bread with no inherent moral basis"-FDostoyevsky.... I don't mind my tax dollars being employed to double check private industry's claims here and there. History illustrates that, when things get exigent, 'Natural' Law doesn't quite cut it on it's own. Wealth can bury facts for a lot longer than you can't breathe air.
That said, if all the relevant information regarding the risks of (ab)using a particular product are readily available, the choice is yours.
Fair enough, thanks for the reply.
Maybe it's the Darwinian test of our day. Figure out how to eat the right foods that will provide nourishment and are the right amount of calories given one's age and level of activity. The information is out there. Granted, it's not handed down via families the way it used to be but the sources are more plentiful in other ways. Everyone has access via television and the Internet.
No, I wouldn't say I'm a naive idealist. I'd say I'm a realist who doesn't want any more taxes or regulations imposed on anyone. Do we really need our federal government passing bills regulating caloric limits for school lunches? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/house-republicans-introdu_n_1893936.html
Don;t make the assumption that such foods are available to all.... they ain't...
And don't try to create the strawman that I am defending the assinine policies of the FDA and Congress on dietary matters.... Hint, that dog don't bark...
It's true there are places where such foods are hard to find. I'm sympathetic to that. But that doesn't explain the nearly 2/3 of overweight and 1/3 obese Americans.
I wrote this in testosteronepit's thread on The Inexplicable American Consumer Is Putting The Screws To Health-Care Expenses
You may disagree with me, but I do think the obesity issue is something we'll either figure out individually or not:
There is a limited amount that any medical system can do for a populace that thinks it can eat whatever crap it wants without incorporating any form of exercise other than shoving more crap into its gaping maw. The thought process for many of these stupid, stupid people is, and long has been "Here I am, now fix me!". That they are complicit in their state of ill health is nothing they want to consider, let alone hear about from their doctors -- who don't do much more than pass out prescriptions to deal with the effects of the American lifestyle: Statins, antihypertensives, drugs for diabetes (mostly Type II), antidepressants, antianxiety agents, various drugs for gastroesophaphageal reflux disease (again, so they don't have to deal with the fact that they ought to lose weight) and more. Americans are overweight, obese, morbidly obese and dying from all the consequences of being obese.
It's remarkable that the U.S. life expectancy is still 78.49, given how fat we are getting. Once the process of diabetes is started -- and it is pretty much inevitable once a body reaches a certain point of obesity, the concomminant issues of cardiovascular and peripheral vascular disease via inflammation. Living with chest pain, shortness of breath, neuropathy in the form of pain, tingling and numbness in your feet before they turn cold and start to die off bit by bit (or toe by toe) is no way to go through life. Or the problems of dying kidneys, because the blood vessels become so scarred from inflammation that they no longer are able to function. Being hooked up to a dialysis machine must be a miserable way to while away the days... for those are conscious, I guess.
And that doesn't even address the vulnerabillity of diabetics to infection, but given the above I would imagine that anyone could surmise a few of the ways in which they are at a higher risk than a healthy person.
This is why the last five years of life get so expensive: Managing the wildly expensive cardiac, vascular and end-stage renal effects of diabetes. If they are smokers (and so many are), add in pulmonary complications. (Should they have coronary bypasses, as an earlier post mentioned? I think if they received truly informed consent which depicted what hell they'd be in post-op and realistic odds of the eventual outcome, I don't think many would choose the surgery. But that's not the paradigm under which the health industry operates. Or what I suspect the average patient wants to hear.)
Yes. The great American consumer.
As long as we're not relying on the gubmint for the education...
PS: Obesity is not a disease: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTq2_3LfXM
Tax bad behavior, yeah, that's a good idea. How about anyone who proposes a new tax is taxed at 150% of their total wealth, and a 100% tax on their income is imposed for the remainder of their lifetime? This applies equally to politicians and death worshippers.
It was so nice around here while you were gone...
Why don't you take a hint...
Fuck you, you leave.
Can you exist anywhere but in an echo chamber?
I expected something better from a man of your education.
Can you?
My six greens and no reds to your no greens and nine reds. Yes, hint taken.
lol
The tally you tout is akin the Republican congress critters from south of the MD line voting on whether Genesis is literally true... Nice try...
Are you going to tell us now how RoundUp is not an endocrine disruptor? I am still laughing about that one...
All fine and good, until the average Joe finds out that his fave alcoholic beverage is loaded with corn, sugar, and other crap.
Even beer - unless the maker is following strict Bavarian rules of brewing - contains corn.
Good luck with your tax revisionism...
Thats not your sandwich..you didnt make that.
No, you cant have bacon on your BLT bitchez!!!
BLT...thats Bun Lettuce and Tomato.
Farley? Isn't that the fat dude that lives in a van down by the river?
Regulation has worked so well in Banking, look how "healthy" and fit for life they are ..and the US Govt
get ready for dirty rotten over-leveraged food with 2,400 pages of Govt nutrional instructions glued on them telling you it's AAA and from a Primary Dealer, authorised supplier to the US Govt
(puke)
Fuck this. I don't give a rat's ass what they eat. I just resent having to pay for their fucking healthcare.
Then actually you really do care what they eat.
Unless you think they should be allowed to eat whatever and however they want -- and then we kill them once they enter the healthcare system?
How about we just kill the pols and bureaucrats when they try to stick their noses into the health care system?
That's not going to stop Frito Lay for long.
The shorter one lives, the less they cost. I'm all in favor of everyone, but me, becoming whales and dieing of a heart attack right when they turn 65.
The last 12 years have been totally fucked up. Does America still exist?
America does, but 'Land of the Free' was buried years ago by the US Govt
It just doesn’t look like you can help yourselves folks, well ok I suppose you all can help yourselves only too well, but you know what i mean. I wish they would go ahead and ban tobacco before I get cancer; I can stop eating burgers at will, smoking is a different animal though.
Banning tobacco would work really well.
Like drugs.
pods
Ban tobacco? You wouldn't even wanna see a nicotine riot!
Don't know if this is true but it's in print so it must be!
A new study shows low-income smokers in New York spend 25 percent of their income on cigarettes.
http://www.cbs6albany.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.ny/2f4a16a3-www.cbs6albany.com.shtml
That's because cigarettes are like $18/pack. They tax the ever loving shit out of them in that State.
Same pack of cigarettes in Missouri is like $3...
Upstate they are running like $10+ a pack as of the last time I was there. Between that, the gestapo attitude of LEO, awesome weather (/sarc) and huge tax burden, I can see why everyone is so happy all the time.
pods
From a budget standpoint, banning tobacco would be a disaster.
You have to ask yourself how many more people would be addicted to drugs if they were legal. Better still, forget asking yourself, i'll tell you. A lot more. Speeding, killing your boss, smoking heroin, robbing banks, pimping, racketeering…all of these can be enjoyable - some have various reasons to avoid these types of activities, but way up the list is the fact that they are illegal, and that’s why relatively little of it ever occurs. See what im getting at here? If i cant buy tobacco in shops for a few months i will more than likely not hunt them out on the black market. It’s a supply thing, if I cant find a dealer when I need a fix, I’ll do without; Go through cold turkey and hopefully come to the conclusion that cold turkey is not worth going through again. etc etc...
Stick around, I will introduce you to reality sometime.
pods
Yes, of course, whenever you're ready chief. But while we're waiting, i think i will do some volunteering at the local lung cancer hospice. Only joking, don’t let that old rhetorical sentimental stuff about the infirm slowly dying a hideous and painful death get in the way of your crusade to uphold freedom from government tyranny, even if it’s your own father choking to death in front of your very eyes (but bare in mind that it would be his own fault because every addict has a choice). The tobacco execs think much the same thing, the right to remain free from laws that seek to protect the health of the nation, and your right to poison yourself with their product is something they feel very strongly about. In fact it’s the only thing that keeps the vermin in business. But I understand, the fight against real tyranny must go on…
+1 from the ghost of Al Capone.
Because that's always worked so well in the past. Why didn't we think of that?
And why the fuck not! These fatties drive up insurance premiums simply because they can put the fork down or eat something healthy. Fat Tax is the same as regulationg behaviour
When man lost sight of how to live, he created codes of love and honesty. Lao Tzu
Just read a little Lao Tse this morning.
One of my favorite quotes:
When I let go of who I am I become who I might be.
Lao Tzu
George Carlin's thoughts on fat folks; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRQvK2-iqQ
zombies eat brains. it's what they do. the gubbermint can't stop it, no one can.
LOL speaking of Zombies
No, really: Govt warns of 'zombie apocalypse'
DHS Urging Citizens To Prepare For Zombie Attack
BTW I will admit it's annoying to get preached to about your state of health from a 300lb RN. No kidding, this bitch was as big as the titanic and there was a picture of her right there on her office wall of her eating a gigantic cheeseburger at a picnic and here she is telling me what I need to be doing and I could've fit in one pant leg.
I used to make fun of the XXXL gangsta t-shirts saying "dat shit can house a family of four." Alas, these days those things suffice with housing the excess fat of just one.
There is a clear role for the government. They've been fighting obesity for decades. Look at their results! Rewarding failure with more resources: the dream of every bureaucrat.
Never mind that High Fructose Corn Syrup is a poison. It's basically garbage water that makes you fat. Gotta get those political donations from Big Agg and Big Pharma.
This article stressed me out...think I'll get a Big Mac.
Fat people...are gonna survive longer in a post-WW3 world.
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/balkans/articles/20120918.aspx
The Greek debt crisis has led the government to consider selling or leasing national assets. The government has said that there are at least 40 Greek islands that could be leased as a means of reducing debt. Leases could run for up to 50 years.
when i was in europe i noticed an incredibly unhealthy diet in the locals, in how we americans think about diet...
however most of their food is natural as in no GMOs, no high fructose corn syrup, no dextrose, no yellow dye #5, no aspartame
so i get this straight, the government allows monsanto to run the fda then wants to regulate food when everyone gets obese from the undigestable chemicals that are in the food
UNhealthy" or counter-intuitively healthy?
Food prices will regulate portion sizes on thier own. Why don't they do it the American Way and just lower the standards of what is considered obese?
In the year 2022, overpopulation and the greenhouse effect have made life extremely difficult for the majority of people. The population of New York City is 40 million and the constant heat is unbearable. The city's infrastructure has broken down. Water is rationed and fresh food is virtually non-existent. Rather, most of the population live on soylent green, made from ocean vegetation and formed into tasteless green wafers.
Soylent Green Dressing made with NYC Obese oil. Tastes a little like a 32 oz. Pepsi and hotdogs.
Ran out of Smokers to pick on.
Now everyone quit smoking they are eating everything in sight.