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Fox, NBC, Bloomberg Project Newt To Win South Carolina, Romney Second
Three primaries, three different winners. There is little that can be said here except to add what we said before: the US gets just what it deserves. Follow the results live on the CNN webcast and the interactive Google chart.
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Funny how the constructive insight offered by foreigners is dismissed, all the while, the tempestuous U.S. citizens here complain about their FUBAR system yet don't exercise their option to leave.
Funny how the constructive insight offered by foreigners is dismissed, all the while, the tempestuous U.S. citizens here complain about their FUBAR system yet don't exercise their option to leave.
I left and you can not believe how glad I am that I did. Especially after having hopes of coming in at least third yesterday. The USA is mostly retards, lazy SNAP eaters, TV clowns, and could care less about freedom. (other than the enlightened ZHers)
Get the hell out of there while you still can.
Just my dos colones.
Really? So after the Keystone XL debacle, if we decide to sell all our oil to Asia, and cut out all sales to the US, are you going to say that Americans have no business commenting on Canadian energy policy? Fat chance.
Douche.
I'm right here smokin' a doobie. What's on your mind bro?
On behalf of the rational folks in South Carolina, I would like to apologize for screwing the country up again. Stupid people like to listen to people who sound smart, rather than folks who actually are intelligent and see the writing on the wall.
Ron Paul will have a campaign alive and kicking well after he finishes in last in Florida. He is already buying adds in NV and MN. Keep the faith guys. Help support him while he's here fighting for us. Give him what you can when you can.
Screw it up again?
Opposing the tyrant who laid the cornerstones for what we have now was entirely the right thing to do.
So why did you go through all that trouble, just to vote for another tyrant just as bad?
Seriously, is it something in the water?
It isnt that people are particularly fond of Newt or even expect him to win, I know some who voted for him but done really like the guy. They just wanted to poke the DC establishment in the eye and saw that as the best way.
I like Paul myself, but it was never realistic to think he would win here or in any other state and as far as Im concerned thats OK, he would only be a scapegoat. The spread of ideas is what matters here, I see actually winning as being a bad thing as it would only be used to discredit him. The fact that Newt said Paul was right about the Fed and fiat money and has been for years is a victory in itself.
Who cares, the next German leader is likely going to come from a beer hall putsch
Actually beer was the SA's drug of choice!
Speaking of beer... I think I'll have a nice cold Guinness. That always makes things better.
Cheers. Unfortunately, this is a heavy drink night for a lot of people everywhere.
This is corruption at it's most obvious. We've spent the whole week hearing about how Newt is far more corrupt than previously thought, so who wins the vote? NEWT.
The public deserve to be oppressed and poor, due to their own blatant stupidity.
Read:
http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Wealth-Mr-Andrew-Costello/dp/1463523017/ref
At this critical juncture, we are all faced with some very tough circumstances. I never had faith in the previous elections (and the broader political system in general). This election is no different.
Collectively, we have a few options:
The choice is in our hands. I'd much rather live through the inconvenience of mass strikes than face the prospect of being dragged to an internment camp where my destiny will be in the hands of a fool who barely made it through high school.
They've made their intentions clear, the question is, "What are we going to do about it?"
As a side note, I don't buy this stereotypical image the mainstream media is depicting of the typical American in order to make vote counting fraud more plausible. Every community in the world has it's fair share of dullards, America is no different.
I agree with you about mass strikes. Unfortunately, it's gonna have to get much much much worse before that even becomes remotely possible...and even then...it's only a slight chance because when things are bad, people will do just about anything to survive...including be the hangman of their brother.
Atrocities are set in motion by the powers that be and the men behind the curtain...but they are carried out by average, everyday "good people" who are doing it just to survive. Or, as it's often phrased: "Just doing my job".
Bottom line is that it really doesn't matter who wins.
Even if Obama wins, the PigMen remain firmly in control and TPTB still has 100% ability to "manage markets".
You will still be able to make money by being on the right side of the market direction dictated by TPTB and investing in Fed-approved, PigMen-sponsored sectors such as tech stocks, retail stocks, and REITs during bull phases.
Leading growth stocks catering to the consumer will continue to see fantastic gains.
PM stocks will continue to see harrowing declines after huge runs.
Same old, same old, nothing is ever going to change.
"Bottom line is that it really doesn't matter who wins."
Yes, it does. However, it is too bad that an honorable man like Ron Paul hasn't gotten more support.
"Even if Obama wins, the PigMen remain firmly in control and TPTB still has 100% ability to "manage markets"."
"Leading growth stocks catering to the consumer will continue to see fantastic gains."
Perhaps you might explain why the S&P 500 had an adjusted close of 1,316.55 on Mar 18, 1999. That is higher than Friday's close, and don't forget nearly 13 years worth of inflation since then.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EGSPC&a=02&b=18&c=1999&d=02&e=18&f=199...
"Same old, same old, nothing is ever going to change."
It will change when the R-E-S-E-T button gets pressed.
Mind Martians! Attent...HUT! ATTACKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!
oh, things will change...
they always do.
right now, however, the choice is:
COKE!
or
PEPSI!
••
Spock/Uhura '12 -- Logic With Soul!
@ RoboTrader
dewd, where have you been? AAPL makes a new all time high this week and you don't say a word! i hope you didn't get shaken out of your long position. as for the PM; gold never defaults !!!
Please gouge out my eyes so I can not watch CNN anymore
Use the remote control. It's painless and easy.
Words can't describe my disgust with the media, south carolinians, the cadidates, and the repukelican party right now. I was stationed in Charleston many years ago, and you would be hard pressed to find finer people. At least back in the 1970s. I keep asking: What is it going to have to take before the 'mercun sheeple awaken from their self induced coma? I'm afraid the answer is this: Only after they have lost their liberties and future, and are 100% bankrupt. Masse psychological programing is paying off in spades for the elites. Thats why they call them elites I suppose. They know the masses better than they know themselves. just keep repeating:"ELECTABILITY", and avoid RP alltogether. Don't say nothing good or bad about him, just ignore him. Santorum too {not that he matters anyway}, concentrate on Romney and Gingrich. Either will serve the illuminist well. I am ashamed of republicans { I was once one}. RP must bolt and leave that corrupt gangster cartel once and for all, and run as an independant if he is to have a chance. I understand why he has up till now run as a republican, it has given him visibility he would have never had as an Independant or Libertarian. But he is out there now in the public conscienous now, so there is no reason to remain. they don't want him anyway. They re-drew his district so he would lose his seat in the next election, so he has nothing to lose by leaving. COME ON RON, RUN AS AN INDEPENDANT!!
No doubt RP is shaking up the status quo, particularly the left. The idea of liberal defectors to RP mortifies them.
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/ron-paul-liberal-defenders?page=1
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/ralph-naders-grand-alliance/
THe US and it's resources belong to Israel. Between theJewish controlled central banks, Israel-first politicians, and the Jewish mainstream media, it's a confirmed Jew World Order. The only good thing is Newt eventually gets his head cut off like the rest of us Goyim.
Can someone nuke South Carolina from orbit already? It's the only way to be sure.
So this means that Romney almost certainly won't catch up with Paul in the delegate count so far. Pretty pathetic for a 'front runner'.
With Gingrich getting the 11 'winner take all' delegates, and 14 more to be allocated based on Congressional district wins, I have as of now (counting Iowa where Paul will round up the majority, or 16 of 28):
Paul 19
Romney 13
Gingrich 11
Santorum 6
Huntsman 2
We'll probably see a few go to Santorum, more to Gingrich...will Romney net any??? There's a chance for Paul to still be tied/ahead after tonight, if Santorum and/or Romney take 3 of the 7 Congressional districts.
Bet you haven't read about this in the papers....I usually cite ABC News for the 'Paul can take the Iowa delegates' story...but it's been pretty much absent from the media.
Explain to me how Paul is in the lead on this one? Gringrich gets all 11 (because he won) but 0 of the rest?
Not 'this one'--total delegates so far. Paul's Iowa ground game has him positioned to 'walk away with Iowa's delegates' according to ABC News. I conservatively assigned him 16 of the 28.
The 11 statewide from SC are known, the rest not. We'll see how many Newt gets. It could end up Newt 25, Paul 19, Romney 13, etc. Or not.
Nice try Jiminmn. However there are 130 some super delegates too that are automatically National Convention Delegates. Those would be GOP state party chairs and state national committemen and women.
Sadly to say RP has none of these committed to him that I know of. Nor will he ever get them. Those all go to the eventual one they pick between the baby eating, wife cheating bag of piss, or the Goldman squid controlled billionaire.
And Iowa has not picked ANY delegates yet. So you can project but it wont be decided till they hold further conventions based on the delegates elected on the caucus night.I doubt the party leaders in Iowa will allow the RP folks to fairly win any amount of delegates. But we will see.
Minnesota is the same. Last time the RP folks there did real well getting delegates at the caucus and then were robbed at congressional district conventions and finally at the state convention.
Same thing happened in Nevada. They closed down the convention early then reconvened later to steal delegates. Then the couple we did get there were bought off at the convention for a set of concert tickets. There were armed thugs at the Hawaii convention.ETC ETC ETC
These neo con party hacks will change rules and do whatever they can to prevent RP from getting delgates.
Sad but true.
We'll see. Funny what quadrupling your support base can do for a guy.
Newt Gingrich?
Really?
We are in even worse shape than the bad shape I was convinced we were in.
All the talking heads around the table just said, "Ron Paul has been priced in." Well, they didn't say the words "priced in", but that's what they meant. Too bad no one is talking about DIEBOLD machines.
Republicans are fucking batshit crazy. Not them Dems aren't, I'm just sayin'.
The longer this plays out the more Paul's message will resonate.
I hope Paul goes right at Newt's fat jugular. Newt's Master Mason ass needs a good whoopin'.
what type of a woman would vote for newt? jus sayin'
The selfishness of the American voter is what is going to kill the US. A society that feels it is entitled and will vote that way until the bitter end ... until the country is insolvent.
When the vote is separated by age group, Paul's support is inversely proportional to the age of the voter. The younger the voter, the more likely he/she is to support him. The older the voter, the less likely. Said another way, those closer to collecting retirement benefits from the government are less likely to vote for Paul. Said another way, give me my benefits, screw the generations of Americans that come after me.
Here is the percentage of the vote Paul gets, broken down by age group
18-24 - 31%
25-29 - 32%
30-39 - 23%
40-49 - 13%
50-64 - 11%
65+ - 7%
I'm disappointed in the 40 to 49 group. I would have thought that Paul would have scored better with them.
That's because the older they are, the less likely they are to be on internet and KNOW, yes KNOW who Ron Paul really is. They don't mention him in the medias unless they want to bash him.
O'Reilly bashes him with baldfaced lies and he knows all of the grey hairs watching won't google to see if he is wrong. O'Reilly is one of the most creepy child molesters on TV.
A fucking Irishman ... what do you expect.
Hey, not all Irishmen are sick child molester fucks. Let's not go overboard here.
Just the ones on TV and radio like O'Reilly, Hannity, Matthews, O'Donnell (Lawrence and Rosie), Cunningham, Gallagher...
You have a point, too many boomers just want to watch the nightly news and believe that things still are 1961 and "it will be alright".
Blinders on, full blinders and just pulling the carriage until they go to the glue factory.
Hard to blame the boomers for their choice. They will never support RP.
If you were at/near retirement, low on marketable skills and a healthy body, you'd cling to whatever lie you could that would support a comfortable time in your golden years*. RP's message is most definitely not that.
For Ron Paul to win, he needs support of the young people. Many of the Gen Y and Millenials crowd are just able to vote for the first time. These SOPA/PIPPA issues were big for them. Seems like RP would be wise to make this a bigger issue b/c it will resonate with the young.
* - or worthless confetti years, if you will
@ Vic. Im a boomer too and have been a stuanch supporter of RP.
After last night Im thinking what the fuck. Even though I dont live in the USA anymore maybe it is best to just let the fuckers kick this can down the road long enough so I can maybe get a small SS check.
I wont get medicare since I dont live there. But I have been responsible and not gotten in debt, drive 22 year old vehicle and live cheap in Costa Rica.
Even if they default I have saved money and am not counting on it.
No kids either. The fucking fat ass lazy good for nothing fucks in the USA can live with what they get.
The counties in SC where the Universities are did not go out of their way to support the good doctor either. So WTF with the youth vote?
Let the kids figure this out on their then and do the best they can and work hard to get ahead.
My advice to asnyone who can is to make plans to find greener pastures to live in.
This is how americans should approach the so called leaders of our country.
when a young black kid was being laid off. The black kid said to the shop
foreman: "You're firing me because I'm black!" The foreman Thought a
moment and replied "No, we hired you because you're black."...
"We're firing you because you are useless!"
Sounds like a possible slogan for the 2012 election
This is how the world views Ron Paul
http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/polls/results/republican-primary/
I should have qualified that statement about boomers to mean those who support anyone other than Ron Paul after doing ten minutes or more of research and independent thinking about the candidates.
The boomers have destroyed us all.
Ofcourse it's thir nature. Hopefully the 4th turning will save us, if we live through it.
Gen X'ers and many baby boomers stood up in the 80's and 90's and said "What is this bullshit?" but got drowned out by those believing the Rhino Republicrat lies and waffling of Bush Senior and Gingrich, while others were swayed by the sing-songy lilt of groovy Billy Clinton and his Dominatrix Wife who somehow gave them comfort.
Then, of course, along came Obummer, the Mulatto promise maker from Chicago who hopey-changed them into somnolence and warm belief in marshmallows, cotton candy, and the big rock candy mountain. Many of the Millenials took it sink, line, and hooker so don't be too quick to lay blame.
We now have a mixture of all of this; younger generations trying to find something to believe in while carrying the tattered baggage of their Parents broken ideologies post Kennedy, post Reagan, post Bush, post Obama and older generations thinking "WTF!?!?".
Ron Paul is the only Real Man in the fight, but like so many normal decent folks gets pushed off to the sidelines like so many citizens of the nation; clearing the aisles for the Kardashians, the Jocks, the pretty faces and bodies and bling; the images and fluff of what looks like success and reality that is only a masquerade, a charade, symbolism and fury in a bag of peanuts and a stick of cotton candy at the state fair.
18-24 - 31%
25-29 - 32%
30-39 - 23%
40-49 - 13%
50-64 - 11%
65+ - 7%
////////////////////////////////////////////////
Hey, lets be US citizenish creative
If you are under 30, and not a Paultard, you are in want of/lack of
If you are over 30 and still a Paultard, you are in want of/lack of
So again, it puts Paul to its real dimension, a fake opposition phenomenum that recalls the past.
US citizen nature is eternal and in 30 years from now, it will be something else.
All these youngsters are not yet fully entitled by US citizenism. The day they are, the day they switch to something else.
Illusion. There is no theory of freedom in US citizen. No theory of truth. No theory of justice. But theories of coercion, propaganda and injustice, quite a lot. And effective.
George Carlin Elections, Politicians and American People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOCLf7YrbMI
George Carlin was a freakin' genius... the light bulb in him was burning bright well before it came on elsewhere.
No matter who wins the shit is going to hit the fan!
Tuck and Roll!!!
Year of the Dragon, baby!
Stack, roll and THEN tuck/
yoiu mean like tom brady?!?
ravens by 17,353,498!
Look on the bright side. I was at the range last night and the chick in the lane next to me had the nicest tits and was showing them off. She was shooting a bushmaster. I think everything is going to be alright.
If she were shooting a noveske my screen would be blurry right now.
Never mind the tits, can she hit the ten ring?
I don't see how Santorum can continue at this point. He is out of money and has no organization. I suspect he will be gone soon. Gingrich's evil past will haunt him further, and he isn't even on the ballot in VA and MO. SC will be Newts high water mark. As this race drags on, Paul is going to find himself as the only viable Romney alternative. Paul is going to be there at the end and anyhting can happen.
I agree. And a timely banking financial crisis to wake up the sheeple wouldn't hurt either.
Good luck with that. We'll be wading in unicorn piss until November.
The Assassination of Martin Luther King Jr Exposed
http://www.youtube.com/user/NotForSale2NWO?feature=g-u-u#p/u/3/DTN5FCKcv3A
“When you embrace your humanity, race goes by the wayside ... you have to take the weapon out of the hands of the ‘powers that be’”
‘Powers that were’ because their spell on me has been broken.
Racism is a tool of the elites to keep humanity divided.
“Embrace love and kick hate to the curb.”
“Robert Kennedy was thinking of asking MLK to be his Vice President.”
http://www.youtube.com/user/NotForSale2NWO?feature=g-u-u#p/u/9/gt1a4HYhhCY
“There is ample evidence to proof that the CIA, FBI and Army Intelligence were involved in a plot to kill him.”
Don't sell Newt short. he will be around until the bitter end. Why? Because he is a sociopath. His ego knows NO BOUNDS. His "evil past" obviously is perfectly acceptable to many, as he just won a "christian" state, after it was only disclosed just days ago he wanted an "open" marriage. Go figure. I expected that event to have been his Waterloo. Boy was I ever wrong. I guess the south carolina christians are a forgiving lot {stupid to a fault too}.
it's so obvious isn't it. He is clearly a malevolent psychopath. His obvious narcicim, his philandering with no remorse.
I hate Romney but atleast he probably is only a secondary psychopath.
*********just so you know***********
Psychopaths make up 4% of the population. They are incapable of empathy. They might as well be satans spawn.
+1
He is just like Clinton and Obama. Romney sucks but he is light years better than fake Newt. Newt waxes about Reagan and Madison then votes with his CFR pal Clinton and Pelosi.
Romney not only sucks, he's a special kind of sociopath.
He's a 0.1%-er who is being taxed at a lower rate than the rest of us-- and he believes with the misguided notion (thanks, senile Supreme Court members), that coporations are people, too. That apparently hasn't hurt is rich super-PAC buddies realm of influence at all.
Those same corporate facists that put Obama into power in 2008, are the same ones that are making Mitt Romney their "chosen one". If you think there is an once of empathy in that body of his... I'd like to sell you timeshares in Detroit.
Other than that, he's a super nice guy with nice teeth.
Gingrich is an unabashed fascist. And the Republican voters love it.
They are not as "Christian" as you make them out to be. These are the folks that had poker machines everywhere capable of taking all of your money in a few minutes. Finally voted them out years later when they saw the true cost to Society.
As far as politics is concerned I have said up and down I am staying out of it. The phone is off, the tv is off and so forth.
But the net is not.
Ron Paul ain't going anywhere. All you anti-semite, negro loving, muslim bowing, obama loving hacks can shove off.
You must have your hand in the government till. You do realize each of the clowns that took win, place and show tonight have proposed blow out budgets with supply side solutions for revenue? Very little difference from Obama.
A lof people are listening to the BS and not the facts. The 3 stooges (Moe as Santorum, Gingrich as Curly, and Romney as Larry) have all proposed lowering taxes, continuing/expanding wars, and a balanced budget. How in God's name does that work? It's impossible.
it works... when you print the SHIT out of the dollar.
PRINT BABY PRINT...
free dollars for everyone!
How do you balance the budget while printing like crazy?
You dont have a budget.
Congress has not made a formal budget in a few years now. It's all CR's and a couple of MUST pass bills to keep VA, SS and DOD going.
OMFG! Reading the comments in this thread is like watching fans at a WWE match! ... booing "the Hulk", cheering "the White Knight", throwing chairs at the ref, getting into a punch-up with fans of "the Darkie"......
Are there really so many ZH readers who take TOTUS elections seriously?!?! After 2008? After 2004? After 2000? ..... After 1960? ..... After 1912? After....... FFS!!
WAKE UP, SHEEP!!!!!!
Hard to blame you for feeling this way and writing this. But remember that as of now Ron Paul has a chance to be president. That in and of itself is a reason to care and take action. If he loses, then we can go back to Tyler's wailing wall and complain about how dumb Americans are and hate on a variety of things.
Take a look at this i-dog. It came from my Google ads on ZH but it says something.
Ron Paul Shits Sanity:
http://www.funnyshirts.org/design/d5888001e84f982133e6ff2eb812e371_3250
No boomer made that shirt...it's an encouraging sign.
If young people get behind RP, he has a chance to win. And if he wins, then we have a chance to have a more honest government, one that appreciates liberty. If he doesn't get the nomination, then your comment stands.
ahhh i-dog, who knew.
after hangin' chads, and re-counts, and supreme court decisions, Bush v. Gore, on who "won," and the Diebold scandals, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (Greg Palast), then the massive overthrow of liberties by the neocons, Patriot Act, Homeland Security, corporate wars, only to flip the coin to "hope" & "anyone but Bush" and "maybe this time we'll see change" - ohhhh, but well. . .
the voting game has rules, and hating on the folks who don't vote your team, well, that's the rules folks - guaranteed to divide the peoples up as the months grind to November - NUKE S.C. they is idiots!!! - if the momentum keeps up, why, we may not even see any organised resistance to this massive overthrow of "liberties" as Spring & Summer unfold, the people will be kept pre-occupied with team spirit right through to the. . . well, I'm not so sure there will be "elections" - but hey, it's all fun be part of the team. . . until it isn't.
I voted for Pedro
Go easy on us i-dog. Let us savor our illousion just a little longer. When the "black marias" come around to collect us, we will ask them what took them so long, and thank them for the ride {beats a forced march any day}.
Aussie commentator Mike Carlton nails it:
One of my new year's resolutions was to ignore the Republican primaries in the United States, but I have broken it already.
They have a horrible, irresistible fascination, not unlike watching a funnel web spider crawling across your lounge-room carpet. All those spray-on tans, those spray-on first names - Mitt, Newt, Rick, Ron - and worse, those spray-on opinions confected out there on the lunar right. These people have spun so far off any rational policy axis that they make George W. Bush look like a Roosevelt liberal.
Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, is the most worrying, if only because he's likely to be the winner to go up against Barack Obama. He made his multimillions as a rip'n'gouge venture capitalist, or whatever the buzz phrase is these days, preying on the carcasses of struggling companies and turning fat profits by the traditional method of sacking half the workforce and flogging off the bare bones of what was left.
The American ABC television network and The Washington Post newspaper reported this week that Romney has an estimated $US33 million stashed in the notorious tax haven of the Cayman Islands. Pushed by his Republican rivals to reveal his financial dealings, he has admitted only to paying "close to 15 per cent" tax. All perfectly legal, of course, but morally bankrupt in a nation where the thieves of Wall Street have destroyed the savings of the middle class.
The rest of the field looks even nastier. Newt Gingrich, the ultimate Washington insider, postures as an advocate of small government and "family values", but is a thrice-married serial adulterer who, bizarrely, was forced to make a public pledge last month "to uphold the institution of marriage through personal fidelity to my spouse and respect for the marital bonds of others''.
Then you have Rick Santorum, a former senator from Pennsylvania and religious hardliner who frets incessantly about Darwinian evolution, abortion, sexual morality and euthanasia. Infamously, he once compared gay sex to "man on child, man on dog". Google his surname and you'll find the algorithm directs you, first up, to a hilariously sleazy neologism that has no place in a family newspaper.
But even Santorum pales against the maddest of the lot, the Texas congressman Ron Paul, who wants to chainsaw half the government in Washington and return the US dollar to the gold standard, and who believes the United Nations is a vast global conspiracy to deprive America of God and guns.
Commonly but inexplicably described as a "libertarian", he is, in fact, another wacko moraliser infamous for pronouncing that "homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities".
On the economic troubles besetting the US, Paul thinks only that "it's amazing that people don't understand that the more the market is involved and the smaller the government, the lower the price, the better the distribution, and the higher the quality." Apparently he has never heard of Lehman Brothers.
Yes, it's true that Obama has been a disappointing President, but any one of this Republican lot in the White House would be a disaster.
WHILE we're on about matters American, it would be helpful if they could let us know where our new war is going to be.
With Iraq turning into such a wonderful success, and an equally convincing triumph for democracy undoubtedly on the way in Afghanistan, it is high time to decide who we will take on next. I say "we" because, as ever, Australia will tag along as the dutiful ally.
North Korea looked possible for a while. It would have been the moment to strike when the Dear Leader, Kim Jong-il , dropped off the twig and was replaced by his fat, pasty and apparently catatonic youngest son, Kim Jong-un. But nuking Pyongyang might have upset the Chinese who, while no doubt as baffled by the North Koreans as the rest of us, would nonetheless have to stick up for them.
(For those of you who miss the elder Kim, there is a wonderful reminder of his immortal genius for leadership at a website named "Kim Jong-il Looking At Things".)
With the Kim family out of the equation, then, the obvious candidate for our next war has got to be Iran. Nobody likes the Iranians at all, not even the Russians, who have been supplying their nuclear know-how.
They are barking mad, which always helps when you need a casus belli and, as an added plus, the Israelis have already made a splendid start against them by assassinating a nuclear scientist in Tehran every month or so.
As the aforementioned Rick Santorum said just the other day, it is "a wonderful thing" to hear of another dead Iranian nuclear expert.
More needs to be done, though. Air strikes to begin with, I would suggest, and then a full-scale land invasion in due course. Even with the Obama cutbacks, this year's US defence budget runs out to about $US700 billion. You can't have all that money sitting there doing nothing.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/a-field-so-scary-that-you-cant-turn-away-20120120-1qa31.html#ixzz1k9KIS96HWhat about the Aussies continue to do what they do best : lick their Queen's asshole?
Love her or hate her, at least she isn't a bought and paid for gimp of the Militay/Industrial/Banking complex.
Yeah because she rules those.
Rupert Murdock told her to say all that. Obama 2012!!!
Followed Carlton's advice and just googled 'Santorum' - here's the first link:
santorum (san-TOR-um) n.
1. The frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter
that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex.
You are a terminal moron to throw Ron Paul in the kettle with the rest of those elitist, authoritarian slimeballs. The laws against fraud are plenty sufficient to prosecute about 99% of the top executives of every large financial firm in the USSA. And that is what Ron Paul advocates. You MORONs who think increasing the number of regulations from infinity to infinity-squared need to ask yourselves why the infinity you already have STOP NONE OF THE PREDATORS. Answer: Because the government and those executives are the two sides of a single coin --- authoritarianism. And yet, what you propose... from these same predators... is MORE AUTHORITARIANISM.
Take Jon Corzine. In the full light of day he stole over 1 billion dollars from client accounts. He as not been arrested. He has not been charged. He has not been locked up. He is and will remain free, because the predators-that-be and predator-class protect and defend each other, because the population of earth is far more than any of them could possibly consume by themselves.
Freaking morons. WAKE UP.
That is the greatest piece of journalism that I have read about our current clusterfuck of a political situation. I want to move to Australia. Reading the facts from an outsider makes me even more embarrassed of our country.
all of you people bashing south carolinians, calling them ignorant, and making cracks about things like letting them secede should perhaps consider what doctor paul might say in response? i'm guessing most of you think the war between the states was all about slavery too.
I would like nothing more then to secede from these idiots and their demented government. Unfortunately none of them have the balls to make secession a public issue again- put it to a vote in SC and I suspect everyone would be happier.
None of these northern/left coast jackoffs talked the same shit when Mittens won Iowa and NH for the simple reason that those are Yankee states which makes it OK that Paul lost there. Some of these people have devolved into mindless hero worship, former Obama voters I suppose.
Seriously, does anyone KNOWS any Gingrich or Romney supporters? They don't exist. I've seen more unicorns than Gingrich supporters.
It's the fucking boomers.
Or possibly the results were rigged. We're not back to believing our votes actually count, are we? America gets the government it deserves? Or it gets the government that is forced down its throat?
much easier to hate. on each other.
Fascinating real-time narrative these last few days as the battle for public perception in the media unwinds Romney's success in Iowa, discloses Cayman island bank accounts days before Gingrich upsets in South Carolina despite public revelations of a cold hearted calculating disposal of his cancer stricken wife in a primary where all ballots are recorded here:
http://www.state.sc.us/scsec/sysused.htm
Looks like we may be watching just the beginning of the Globalist's internecine battle for stooge control...things are about to get bumpy
My God!
Look, the problem is this. We all are simply too smart for our own good. We have no setting at the elites table and unfortunately unlike the dolts surrounding us we see the grinder at the end of the conveyor.
Sometimes it is better to not see one's fate.
Compared to the public we are too smart for our own good, which is very sad because I am certainly not all that smart.
So it will be death by nuke, FEMA or hot lead.
It isn't a matter of being smart. It is about admitting the truth. Philip K. Dick did a great story about it called "The Hanging Stranger".
Threatening New Bill H.R. 1981 – Worse Than SOPA/PIPA – This Bill Entitled “The Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act Of 2011? Is A Bill With Overly Broadened Language That Greatly Threatens All Of Us.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/threatening-new-bill-worse-than-sopapipa-this-bill-entitled-the-protecting-children-from-internet-pornographers-act-of-2011-is-a-bill-with-overly-broadened-language-that-greatly-threatens-all/#.Txtz629STDM
South ...Carolina, full of fat Laodiceans (at zero interest) that voted for a NewtRomney. Paathetic. Your shits in the wind Carolina, you voted for a MoronMormon ...pandering PAC whore with magic masonic underwear ...holding a Cayman Island account.
The people of 1861 {South Carolina} bear no resemblance at all to those of today-NONE AT ALL.
Atlanta Jewish Times suggests the way to stop Iran is for Mossad to assassinate Obama. Oh, the horror.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/uproar-after-jewish-american-newspaper-publisher-suggests-israel-assassinate-barack-obama-1.408429
However, if they are going to interfere in US politics with assassinations, may I suggest there are a few others who may deserve their attention even more. There's this lard-butt pimp named Newt, for example. And the blood-sucking zombie named Mitt. Of course this is total sarc/ Wouldn't want to see a hair on our dear leaders head touched in any way. Newt and Mitt, on the other hand...
Oy Vey! Shlomo be quiet the goyim will hear.
Elections are not what they used to be.
Hahahaha ... Gingrich pulled the born-again/Evangelical Christian vote. Hahaha. Ha.
He also picked up the married women vote.
Everything in this fucking God forsaken shit hole is rotted out. The best thing is for the place to burn down. I'm going to buy some marshmallows.
I'll drink to that.
Ass backwards state
Philistines
I think Newt Gingrich is unpredictable. I think Newt Gingrich has the best chance to win in 2012. I think that Newt Gingrich is the only candidate, besides RP, who would embrace his place in history in these dark economic times and challenge both houses of congress with the veto pen. Our next president must challenge both political parties to either override a veto and show their corrupt asses for what they are to the public, or decide that they love their jobs and country enough to begin working together for the American public instead of serving their largest campaign contributors. That is how an American President will have to lead, or our nation will become what we all fear. Obama's czars vision of our future. Second bill of rights, anyone? Didn't see the second amendment in their version.
Newt sucks balls.
The Newt is a Vatican stooge (33° Mason).
I think Confederate stooge is more likely.
Newt is part of the corruption, 1.6 M from Freddie, numerous ethical charges, ect. He is the consumate insider. I tremble to imagine this man with any real power. RP is the only man with the moral high ground to take on corruption. He doesn't even talk to lobbyists. It's unfortunate that he isn't more charismatic, however, history is littered with charismatic tryrants who wrought destruction upon their people. What we need is an informed freedom loving population willing to turn off the propaganda, and think for themselves. We are following a well worn pattern of collapse. It's going to take heavy reforms to change our direction and avoid catastrophe. It may not be possible, but even if we must go through collapse, I would rather do it with a leader commited to preserving our liberty and our dignity. This is not the time for war, it is the time for carefully investing, not wasting, what resources we have left. We are ill-prepared for what is coming, even more so with war as a capital diversion.
ClassicalLib17 - I think your points are well taken. If Newt were to somehow get elected his ginormous ego might, just might cause him to actually try to be an effective President, if he ever got around to it in the middle of chasing every skirt in town. He might realize that in spite of his obnoxious personal qualities he could govern quite effectively, and some of his policy decisions might actually surprise a lot of people. Thank you for your courage in saying what almost nobody is thinking, and knowingly attracting a lot of shit down on your head in the process, I'll tell you this - I would hold my nose and vote for Newt over Obama and his Czars any day.
duplicate...sorry!
Have faith. RP will do very well out west. If its not rigged.
If it's not rigged? Then it's already game over.
What Ron Paul supporters need to do is infiltrate Romney/Newt campaigns, feign being for them, become delegates, then at the convention, vote for Ron Paul.
Or infiltrate and buy some piano wire. Either way would be good.
Have faith. RP will do very well out west. If its not rigged.
Pass the pipe bro...most of the "highly educated" fucktards out here in Seattle don't even know how to open their car door without a remote clicker.
Bwahahahaha! Oh that is all they can do in the constant rain up there.
Fuck all this shit!!! We still have American music....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpbRWnjzWmQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5I0E75G8-g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xx6bjyawg&feature=related
Do you want this man to be the 45th President of these united States of America?
not yes, but HELL YES!
That's a very powerful video.
Cuban music too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu6Ra59RSis
Well it doesn't really matter WHO wins does it now......I'm mean come on it's becoming like the Queen - all show no blow.
Get relaxed, change channels and think of England.
If I were RP, I would end tonight with a "fuck you South Cackalaki"
Ron Paul Gets Cut Off on Fox News When Talking About The Media Not Mentioning Him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyhTrWNk-aA
That clip is unbelievable. It's a sick joke.
Cavuto is a little bitch.
I say Ron, Mitt and Newtie throw down on ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS to decide.
I'd like to see a death match. But, then again, Romney would have the upper hand since he's already stone cold dead.
I guess the GOP forgot to have a single Protestant candidate in their leaderboard this year....
Oh, except...Dr. Paul.
Who's the WASPiest of them all? Ladies and Germs, it's him: Ron Paul.
in his s.c. victory speech/rant newt
brings up jimmy carter as a strong
president in comparison to president b.h.o.
regarding the handling of their respective
iran policies.
.
watch for the "october surprise", part two,
late in the summer of 2012. iran again.
in a way the iranian revolution launched the presidency of ronald
ray-gun. the next republican candidate will surely
be tempted and offered some form of reenactment
of this career catapult. this is what intelligence
is for, behind the scene career making for ingratiated
power positions in the affairs of "the people", then in the service
of the entrenched interest molding the future alliances and
relations.
.
i doubt ron paul would play ball in this game.
something to think about this iran central approach in
oil geopolitics theater. it never gets old?
Gingrich/Gollum 2012!
Gingrich/Cthulhu 2012!
Gingrich/Bozo
I know it's pretty easy to blame idiots still stupid enough to vote for the elitist puppets, but I think in this case they rigged the results. There are mentions by Karl Rove of a gentlemens vote etc, checkout "hacking democracy" for more information on election fraud. 9-11% congress approval rate and the none-establishment candidate isn't winning? It's always been rigged no sense in blaming the victims.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7926958774822130737
Gingrich voted for or supported:
Bank bailouts
Cap and trade
Brady gun bill
No Child left behind
Obama Healthcare mandate
Expanding the department of Education with an Al Sharpton tour
Lobbied for Freddie Mac as they were bilking the tax payers
So this is the conservative SC voted for ?
http://www.dcbureau.org/201112136815/national-security-news-service/newt...
Newt Gingrich, Marianne and the Arms Dealer:
A Buried FBI Investigation
By Joseph Trento, on December 13th, 2011
"
On October 5, Sarkis Soghanalian, once the world’s largest private arms dealer, died at 82. He had sold weapons to scores of dictators including Saddam Hussein, and he took many secrets with him to his grave. But one secret he did not take involves Newt Gingrich when he was Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives. DCBureau has learned that Gingrich was at the center of a U.S. Justice Department criminal investigation in the late 1990s for a scheme to shake down the arms dealer for a $10 million bribe in exchange for Gingrich using his influence as Speaker to get the Iraq arms embargo lifted so Soghanalian could collect $54 million from Saddam Hussein’s regime for weapons he had delivered during the Iran-Iraq War."
....
"Soghanalian said in a series of interviews before his death that men associated with Marianne Gingrich convinced him that Speaker Gingrich would use his influence to lift the embargo and allow Soghanalian to collect the millions of dollars owed to him by Iraq “in exchange for a $10 million payment to Gingrich through his associates.” Soghanalian was to pay the money – not to the Gingriches directly – but through a think tank, The Institute for Advanced Strategic & Political Studies (IASPS), which has offices in the United States and Israel."
...
and more ....
Nice story, too bad Gallegher pulled the plug on that investigation right at the critical moment. I have no doubt what the outcome would have been had the sting continued, and from the looks of it, Gallegher knew as well. Government is inherently corrupt, that is why our only hope is to keep it as small and limited as possible. Term limits would help as well.
Damnit all the old people who still get their news from CNN and FoxNews who are too faulty of mind to remember newt as tw asshole he was. They happily vote to destroy their posterity.
Funny how anyone can think the boomers are not at fault in this. They had the power to change things. They had the numbers to out vote their parents. They have been the captains of the ship atleast as far as a public majority can get you.
They had plenty of warnings.
John Birch Society
Larry McDonald
Ross Perot (hell I was 18 and voted for Perot)
The lies they have been fed and Fred over and over.
They continue to vote for psychopaths and will do so to the very end.
the US gets just what it deserves.
I guess we all understand what that phrase is supposed to mean, but I put my foot down and object strongly to these sorts of characterizations --- especially from people who claim to abhor collectivism and support individualism.
To say, even as a common phrase, that everyone in the USSA deserves to be treated like a slave, to be abused, to have their privacy destroyed, to have the wealth confiscated, to be brainwashed in schools, to support the predators-that-be and predator-class --- is as wrong as any claim could possibly be. This is to claim that someone who has dedicated their entire lives to honesty, ethics, liberty, justice and individualism deserves the same degree of abuse as a vile, dishonest, unethical, elitist, authoritarian collectivist.
I will say the following for myself, but believe it would be echoed by most honest, ethical individualists. My life belongs to me - lock, stock and barrel. What is called "government" is actually "predators DBA government", and "government" is a pure, unadulterated fiction. I refuse to be intentionally insane and delusional by pretending to believe that fictions refer to something real. Any individual who supports, defends and finances predators in their efforts to harm me, steal from me, destroy me, poison me, invade my privacy or otherwise force me in any way --- IS MY ENEMY. If that is 80% or 90% or 95% of 99% or 99.999999% of americans or humans, then SO BE IT.
Don't these people have a right to their opinions? In general, yes. In this case? Technically yes, they can hold any opinion they want. But the instant they take any step to harm or destroy me or support others who intend to do their dirty work for them, they are fully culpable. If you think that's a radical notion, just try advocating or donating $20 bucks to Al-Queda, and see how well that kind of claim works in the 6-foot cube cage you spend the rest of your life in, without a single lawyer visit, without hearings, without trials, without evidence, without justice, and without anyone but us honest, ethical, productive individualists to fight for your rights and liberty. Go ahead and try to get them to let you vote for fascist neo-nazi slime like Romney or Gingrich or Santorum from your cage. They might actually LET you do that.
So let me rephrase. Anyone who votes for elitist, fascist, authoritarian slimeballs like Romney, Gingrich or Santorum does deserve what they get... in some ways and to varying extents. And you are enemies of everything and everyone good on this planet. However, the rest of us do not deserve what we get, and only you and the predators are guilty of treason and crimes against humanity. Not us.
So please stop adopting cliches crafted and promoted by the predators-that-be and predator-class to scam good people into accepting the role as subservient slaves, and accepting the proposition that individuals do not have any right to defend themselves against predators and their hired thugs who are paid with money stolen from those individuals. It is time for all good people to "just say no". Do not support the system in any way, and for certain, steadfastly refuse to accept the soundbites created and promoted by these vile creatures, and too often repeated by genuine, honorable individualists who don't think carefully enough before they speak.
Thanks honestann,
Keeping things in perspective as always.
I did not think this 'presidential' election muck would still be so popular, or fascinating for zh denizens, but looking at the read figures on these threads, it clearly is a pre-occupation.
All I can think is, wtf, snap out of it.
And only 10.5 months more of this pitiful charade left.
Here is my take on the interest in this election. I suspect that almost every honest, ethical, productive individual today realizes this is the last chance for the USSA or the world to have any chance whatsoever to avoid spiraling down into the most vile, revolting, destructive sewer worse than anyone today can even imagine (other than the predators who are happily guiding it).
And they see Ron Paul, the only person in the entire federal government who has refused to violate his oath to protect and defend the constitution, and who has no interest in enslaving us... has a small but real chance to become president.
Given the unbelievable, unmitigated disaster that is ahead of mankind, I can understand why more honest, ethical, rational, productive, individualistic people want to know whether there is any chance.
My prediction is... the moment Ron Paul is clearly out, interest in the election will plummet... right over the cliff. Hopefully then the interest will shift to organization and preparation for an all-out armed civil war against the predators-that-be and predator-class. Unfortunately, I doubt it, which is why I believe escape is the best answer for those of us willing to take actions and unwilling to willingly become abused slaves.
Your two posts really hit home with me. I would like to use myself as a "case in point" to support your analysis of the election-fascination. I vascillate between two mindsets these days: One is, "you know it's rigged and voting doesn't matter", and the second is a feeling of hope that somehow a true statesman might slip through the cracks of the elite's gameplan and be able to at least help stem the tide of complete fascistic tyranny. So those are my own personal mental gymnastics.
If/when they finish off Dr. Paul, I will no longer be participating in the "political discourse", save for a couple of minutes spent in November writing his name in on my ballot while voting for local candidates. Establishment Republicans have ZERO idea how strong and powerful the liberty movement is (led by Ron Paul at this moment), and they wrongly assume that Ron Paul supporters will eventually jump on the R-nominee bandwagon for the purpose of voting for "anyone but Obama". They know that a vote for anyone else is simply meaningless! The vast majority of RP fans will NOT vote for a lesser of two evils...that is not their nature. RP voters actually believe in PRINCIPLES, not a single man.
I spend way too much time here, but it is my addiction. I love all things political, and I am compelled to continue to educate myself as to the TRUE history of our world and country.
The one private pleasure that sustains me is that the very same people who have bought into the entire political charade and think that ANY Republican is an answer to the problem are the people who will not have done one ounce of preparation for the difficult times to come. And I will tell them, "Sorry.....you wouldn't listen. Run to the person you voted for to help you."
Wife will be voting for one who is not running anymore for president.
The next 10 or so months is going to be a chinese water torture. A drip at a time.
Only for me because I like to watch the Waltons and so forth.
Obama's first commercial. Romney, GingRICH, Sanatorioum are going to have to really put out to beat this one!
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/in-scandalous-new-campaign-video-obama-takes-israel-pandering-to-dangerous-levels/