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French Magazine Portrays Prophet Mohammad Naked In Cartoons, Set To Further Infuriate Muslim World

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It's almost as if someone is actively trying to force the Muslim world to launch an all out war against the "developed" west. A week ago, it was a film mocking Mohammad which led to the death of the US ambassador in Libya. Today, it is a French magazine which has ridiculed the Prophet Mohammad by portraying him naked in cartoons, which, as Reuters logically adds, "threatens to fuel the anger of Muslims around the world who are already incensed by a film depiction of him as a womanizing buffoon." It is as if the anti-Iran strategy of antagonizing the country to its breaking point, merely so the first attack comes from them in response to endless provocations, and a defensive retaliation can be spun to the "free world", has now been adopted against the entire Muslim world now, and all the insolvent Western countries are praying they get attacked just so the media spin will coalesce the sheep around the "developed" democracies in an all out "retaliatory" assault, which among other things, liberates tens of millions of barrel of oil equivalents, even as it spreads democracy and unlimited credit cards.

Naturally, just as in the case of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula video, where the US government promptly washed its hands but not before condemning the response, so here too, the French administration has promptly bashed the cartoon. Of course, it is just this "freedom" that the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo had, that the Muslim world supposedly "hates us for." Needless to say, the damage has already been done and the second major provocation against the Muslim world by the west, with a mass response that will be no surprise to anyone, has been launched. One of these days the desired reaction to the endless battery of provocations will finally take place.

From Reuters:

The French government, which had urged the magazine not to print the images, said it was temporarily shutting down premises including embassies and schools in 20 countries on Friday, when protests sometimes break out after Muslim prayers.

 

Riot police were deployed to protect the Paris offices of satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo after it hit the news stands with a cover showing an Orthodox Jew pushing the turbaned figure of Mohammad in a wheelchair.

 

On the inside pages, several caricatures of the Prophet showed him naked. One, entitled "Mohammad: a star is born", depicted a bearded figure crouching over to display his buttocks and genitals.

 

Initial reaction from Muslim countries was critical.

 

"Of course it will anger people further. It will raise tensions that were already dangerously high," said Sheikh Nabil Rahim, a leading Salafist cleric in Lebanon.

 

"We will try to keep things managed and peaceful, but these things easily get out of hand. I fear there could more targeting of foreigners, and this is why I wish they would not persist with these provocations."

 

In Egypt, Essam Erian, acting head of the powerful Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party, told Reuters: "We reject and condemn the French cartoons that dishonor the Prophet and we condemn any action that defames the sacred according to people's beliefs."

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Charlie Hebdo has a long reputation for being provocative. Its Paris offices were firebombed last November after it published a mocking caricature of Mohammad, and Charbonnier has been under police guard ever since.

 

Speaking outside his offices in an eastern neighborhood with many residents of North African origin, Charbonnier said he had not received any threats over the latest cartoons. In a message on its Twitter account, Charlie Hebdo said its website had been hacked, but referred readers to a blog it also uses.

 

The French Muslim Council, the main body representing Muslims in France, accused Charlie Hebdo of firing up anti-Muslim sentiment at a sensitive time.

 

"The CFCM is profoundly worried by this irresponsible act, which in such a fraught climate risks further exacerbating tensions and sparking damaging reactions," it said.

Well, as long as their hatred of our freedoms continues, all shall be well.

 

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Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:21 | 2811391 hedgeless_horseman
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Mohammed signed a *peace treaty* (called a hudna) with the city-state of Mecca which belonged to the Qu'raysh tribe who worshipped the moon. When the Qu'raysh let down their guard (thinking they had just signed a peace treaty), Mohammed rolled into town and killed all the men. The women were spoils of war.

 

That's Islam.

That reads just like the Old Testament and Torah stories of the Jews, slaughtering men, women, and children, conquering peoples, taking slaves, then ritually slaughtering and burning animals to give thanks.

Then there is God killing all the first born of Egypt, including children and animals, in the Book of Exodus, Chapter 11.

That's Christianity and Judaism.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:30 | 2811542 yrbmegr
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"Thou shalt not kill."

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:36 | 2811567 hedgeless_horseman
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"Thou shalt do no murder," is the more generally accepted, and obvious, translation.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:09 | 2811734 ZeroAvatar
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Oh, beautiful:  Time to re-write the bible to make it say what YOU WANT IT TO SAY. 

 

Over and over, you play these silly games.

 

Now YOU want to tell us the Bible 'meant' something else.  Where's your faith, son?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:53 | 2811899 hedgeless_horseman
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I do not know if the tablet in the Ark of the Covenant has inscribed on it the word meaning murder, or kill.  Neither do you, I imagine.  I was discussing biblical scholars' translations of ancient texts and contextual analysis.  What the Bible "means" is, of course, left up to each individual reader to determine for his or herself.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:06 | 2811718 Oldballplayer
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Sounds like what we did to the Indians in the West.

Is anyone who reads just a little history, surprised by this stuff.

I think the philosphy of Christianity is fine.  Not the structured, forced crap.

I don't fear God if i cheat on my wife.  I fear my wife.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:59 | 2811957 Cathartes Aura
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the philosophy of religions. . .

this is the argument for keeping religion out of "governments" - which obviously would leave them weak, without their MASSIVE backstory justifying their existence over all others. . .

hello?  archetypes??

+1

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:51 | 2811072 Grinder74
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"The historical Mohammed, the historical Jesus, or the historical Buddha, whether you believe them to be prophets or what not, would likely have laughed at the absurdity of it all, and been stricken in horror to know how many millions have died in the name of their religions over the last two millenia."

The historical Jesus might have. The historical Mohammed would have been too busy slaughtering entire villages and marrying 9 yr old girls to notice.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:07 | 2811157 mtomato2
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Up one.

I am amazed at the pass we give Muslims and their inherent code of violence and suppression.  We piss them off, suddenly we're all sorry and shit, and hope they don't blow us up.  Piss off a bunch of Christians, however, and when they complain we just tell them to grow up and get with the program.

I believe in double standards, but this is simply ridiculous.  No insult on heaven or earth warrants the unbridled violent response dealt by the ultra sensitive, thin skinned Muslim extremists.  They NEED to be their own undoing.  Nature demands it.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:16 | 2811213 mtomato2
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Down-arrow coward fuckers.

You got a problem, at least have the decency to say what it is.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:36 | 2811311 hedgeless_horseman
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You got a problem, at least have the decency to say what it is.

You appear to lack empathy.  Watch this 20 minute video if you want to understand what I mean.

Would you really behave differently in these circumstances?  What if a Chinese drone killed your brother and his family because he was a "suspected militant" but really only a school teacher?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:02 | 2811434 Zymurguy
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I think the point here, in response to this article and some of the previous commentary, is that it is quite understandable for any society to rise up and right against attacks and murders of their people.  I completely get that scenario and would no doubt join in fighting to defend my fellow citizens if this happened to us.  But this scenario you describe is not in alignment with people rising up and murdering others for creating an image that offends one's feelings about their religion.

Does everyone see the two different issues here?  We're mixing the two together and that's illogical to do so in a debate.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:33 | 2811505 hedgeless_horseman
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But this scenario you describe is not in alignment with people rising up and murdering others for creating an image that offends one's feelings about their religion.

You may be one of the very few on this site that believes the Muslims are, "rising up and murdering others for creating an image that offends one's feelings about their religion."  Most of us believe that the uprisings are primarily due to 1) the exportation of inflation by the ECB and the Fed, 2) the daily drone strikes in sovereign lands with which we are not at war, 3) the hypocricy surrounding Israel's nuclear weapons program relative to Iran's, and 4) the brutal enforcement of the Petrol Dollar through invasion and war, just to name a few.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:45 | 2812212 matrix2012
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@ hedgeless_horseman,

the OFFICIAL standing of the United States government is ALL the protests across the many countries by the Moslem folks are SOLELY caused by the provocation of the agitating movie. USA Gov clearly denies that these protests have any linkage to those factors you mentioned above.

I believe such denial is not true! Just a cover-up! Those people simply feel sick, VERY SICK, with the various policies of the USA REGIME harmful to them!!! The feeling of being treated UNJUST is OBVIOUS and DEEP! 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:38 | 2811580 mtomato2
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Zymurguy,

 

I get it.

 

I don't understand why nobody else seems to.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:37 | 2811568 mtomato2
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HH, your are a fine poster and a great ZH'r.  But you have misunderstood my beef.

We have two different things going on here.  For one, the US apparently sends drones to kill foreigners with reckless abandon to achieve their own means.  I don't endorse that, and if it is true, then the victims of these atrocities need to rise up and protect themselves and theirs.

But the second apparent reason that these "brown" people (as some here call them,) get their collective panties in a wad is because their code requires blood from anyone who dares insult their spiritual leader.  I'm just saying that our "understanding" of this type of reaction to this type of provocation is unacceptable.  Especially in light of the fact that Christians here in the US and all around the world are ridiculed, lampooned and even martyred as is their spiritual leader (just spool through this very post!) and they don't lift a finger in rage.  In fact, when they VERBALLY object, they are told to collectively shut up and sit down.

The double standard is appalling.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:21 | 2811770 hedgeless_horseman
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Of the many Muslims you know, personally, how many reacted to the youtube video in an unacceptable fashion?  Or is it really just a minority that is shown on television?

Stand in the town square of Vidor, Texas, and burn an American flag, or wear a sandwich board that says, "Jesus Ain't God" and see if you get an unacceptable reaction.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:21 | 2812084 mtomato2
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So much for civility.

Go piss up a rope.

If you wear a sandwich board that says "Jesus was a buttfucker" anywhere in the united states, all you will get is a bunch of sorrowful stares.  And some people will actually pray for you.  I can prove it through the likes of Mapplethorpe's excellent works, et.al.  And the Christian Martyrs who have offered up prayers for their executioners as they were being flayed to death.

Don't sound so incredibly stupid.  I happen to know you are not.  And the rest of you who are about to jerk your knee and down arrow me, think before you do it.  You absolutely know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that this straw-man argument HH is presenting is full of shit on a stick.

To even BEGIN to compare the reactions to opposition of Extremist Muslims and Extremist Christians is intellectual suicide to the highest degree.  SHOW ME the last "Christian" who blew up something or committed mass murder because his messiah was insulted.  I'm just asking for ONE example.  Much less the countless thousands required to compare the two religions.

And:  don't deliberately misinterpret my argument, either.  I specifically said "EXTREMIST" Muslims, and you bloody well know it.  Now act like a man and admit you're being ridiculous.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:01 | 2812218 hedgeless_horseman
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SHOW ME the last "Christian" who blew up something or committed mass murder because his messiah was insulted.

We Christians regularly blow stuff up and commit mass murder to take other peoples' oil.  Is that justified under your moral standard?  What about punching someone that calls your wife a whore to your face?  Your mother?  Does that justify violence on your part?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:01 | 2812326 mtomato2
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Sigh.

I give up.

You're amazing.

You win.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:40 | 2812776 hedgeless_horseman
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Peace be with you.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 20:37 | 2813459 mtomato2
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...And you and yours.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:10 | 2811735 Oldballplayer
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Sucks to not have drones.

I think we all know folks who have been over there.  I know several.  To a man they suggest we get out of there yesterday.  That we serve no purpose.

I heard it described as the playground fight that just keeps going because the one winning is just too pissed to get off and walk away.  And the one getting his ass kicked knows at some point the big guy will get up and he can kick him in the balls.

It just doesn't end.  Unless the girls jump in and start crying.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:05 | 2811998 Cathartes Aura
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heroin profits. 

and the crying girls get abducted, sold, and raped. 

and/or droned.

let's at least acknowledge the truths.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:37 | 2811328 AGuy
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Looking for positive support? You came to the wrong place. You give too much credit that people are enlightened and can see the truth through the BS. Consider the dings that you're on the right track. The more dings the better.

 

 

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:57 | 2811410 LULZBank
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The day you figure out how "something" (this universe and life) was created out of absolutely "nothing," we can have an informed discussion.

If there was "somethng" to begin with, where did it originate from?

BTW, people who believe humans evolved from apes are more stupid than apes because apes dont believe they are our forefathers.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:52 | 2811650 shovelhead
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How do you know what apes believe?

Your argument needs a bit of work to be more convincing.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:16 | 2811758 LULZBank
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Try calling them Grandpa and see if they respond.

However, you did manage to ignore the first point conveniently.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:58 | 2812307 matrix2012
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"BTW, people who believe humans evolved from apes are more stupid than apes because apes dont believe they are our forefathers."

"Try calling them Grandpa and see if they respond."

LULZBank, those are very funny lines of yours, they are fantastically amusing :D.... :-)> (couldn't help myself but) ***ALOL***

btw i take side with your view

 

+ 10

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:16 | 2812392 AGuy
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"this universe and life) was created out of absolutely "nothing," we can have an informed discussion.""

 Who said the universe and life was created out of nothing? Life originated from amino acids and simple protens that were abundant on the planet. amin acids and another life pre-cursor compounds are abundant on Comets.

 

A thousand years ago everyone knew the world was flat. 500 years ago the Universe revolved around the earth, 250 years ago, the Earth was a mere 6,000 years old. Consider that it took 6 Billion years for man to appear on Earth. God must be the most procrastiating being to take so freaking long to make man in his imagine, Or God is grossly incompetitent. " God attempt to create man and gets Dinosaurs.. Tries again and gets Megafauna, tries again and gets Apes..." Which is it, or maybe both?

"If there was "somethng" to begin with, where did it originate from?"

Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it wrong or false.

"people who believe humans evolved from apes are more stupid than apes because..."

<sarcasm> Spoken like an Well educated genious. Bet you that you also believe the world is flat and the Earth is the center of the universe too!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:33 | 2812473 Kalevi
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Sir,

As for the first part, not a clue.

Have your ape to e-mail me his denial, I like to get important things in writing.

Meanwhile, I will remain your respectful unbeliever of any religious nonsense.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:09 | 2811175 john39
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depends on what version of 'history' you believe...    perhaps you missed the crusades where 'christians' did that and worse in the name of God...  btw, your comments on Mohammed are not accurate, and no I am not a muslim.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:15 | 2811206 mtomato2
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I'm not sure about him, but I'M referring to the historical Jesus and current, modern day Christians.  I will not be an apologist for "The Church" between then and now.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:27 | 2811271 EnglishAustrian
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Known for a long time that the biblical Jesus probably did not exist (whether or not there was a real figure those bible stories were retold around is another matter). Always believed that Mohammed was a well attributed historical figure but after a recent documentary, not sure anymore. 

One item I remember from the programme was that in the early days the islamists prayed in a different direction, beleived to be the south coast of the dead sea.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:59 | 2811419 LULZBank
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In the early days muslims used to pray facing Jerusalem, Masjid Al Aqsa/Solomons Temple. It was changed towards Ka'aba later on.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:44 | 2811331 N. B. Forrest
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@john39

 

Perhaps you need to study the Crusades a little further.  It was a retaliation against the Muslims who stole all that land from the Byzantine Christians.  They crucified the monks, raped the nuns, and had Jerusalem running red with the blood of Christians. They then closed off Jerusalem to Christian pilgrims and put up a no trespassing sign up to the Holy Land of Christiantom. You've been reading too many PC history books. 

 

Were the Crusaders saints?  Hell no, but to erroneously believe that the Crusades were just a bunch of renegade attacks against the poor innocent Muslims is pure fantasy.  Muslims haven't change over the centuries.  They were terrorists 1000 years ago just as they are today. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:52 | 2811387 tmosley
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You and your idol there have and had cognitive problems: http://lesswrong.com/lw/i0/are_your_enemies_innately_evil/

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:56 | 2813048 palmereldritch
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   the Crusades as simply a retaliation against Muslim theft?

Perhaps superficially, if you leave out the 'empire' part.

Interesting invocation in an argument that has its roots (hidden or otherwise) in the Clash of Civilizations, expansion of war economy and the technology of power that is derived from it, pioneer debt and credit creation, the original central bank and religious propaganda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_banking#Crusades

In the 12th century, the need to transfer large sums of money to finance the Crusades stimulated the re-emergence of banking in western Europe. In 1162, King Henry the II levied a tax to support the crusades—the first of a series of taxes levied by Henry over the years with the same objective. The Templars and Hospitallers acted as Henry's bankers in the Holy Land. The Templars' wide flung, large land holdings across Europe also emerged in the 1100–1300 time frame as the beginning of Europe-wide banking, as their practice was to take in local currency, for which a demand note would be given that would be good at any of their castles across Europe, allowing movement of money without the usual risk of robbery while traveling.

Mercenaries and their money are soon parted.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

   

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:27 | 2811530 resurger
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Grinder74

Can you post evidence that he was slaughtering villages and marrying a 9 year old?

 

 

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:56 | 2811662 LULZBank
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Evidences spoil the fun.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:55 | 2811092 Dr. Engali
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Well said red pill. I couldn't agree more.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:12 | 2814828 e-recep
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In case you don't know, Mohammed was VERY active with his sword in battles to spread his religion.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:44 | 2811026 kengland
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Wo ist das SS!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:00 | 2811114 Mario55
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GetZeeGold,

 

Why not surrender to the Nazi's violence too?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:17 | 2811494 Meremortal
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There should be a new movie or new cartoon lampooning Muslims every day until they lie panting in the streets, begging for mercy.

Free speech shall not be infringed by 12th century fanatics.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:38 | 2810983 Herman Van Rompuy
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They didn´t print that, someone else made it possible.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:13 | 2811478 n8dawg84
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Stop being such a damp rag

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:40 | 2811005 Big Slick
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I like this.  Let's get this Sharia vs. Liberty fight started. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:47 | 2811048 Yes We Can. But...
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Couldn't agree more.  Procrastination makes matters worse.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:49 | 2811063 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Like it wasn't started decades and millions of lives ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:11 | 2811182 Chief KnocAHoma
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Yeah they started it the years ago... we just haven't joined in yet. At least not in a meanigful way. Those little Gulf skirmishes were nothing compared to the shit that is about to break out.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:22 | 2811247 CrockettAlmanac.com
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How have we managed to kill hundreds of thousands of their kids if we haven't joined in yet?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:41 | 2811013 TruthHunter
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PrintingPress: "I'd print it!"

Put the Pic of a Nigerian kitty on a cross next to it. 

Since they in reality worship the dude, we should go back to calling them Mohammedans.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:58 | 2811109 Sofa King
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Hey Tyler, where's the rest of the photo...heh, heh.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:02 | 2811126 G. Marx
Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:02 | 2811430 Clayton Bigsby
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Great - so now we're gonna have O-blame-ya apologizing for the french, too...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:29 | 2810922 Capitalist
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Is there any way to short French embassies?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:32 | 2810933 GetZeeGold
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Those cats are closed for business.

 

.....and they surrender.

 

You know....the usual.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:33 | 2810943 John Law Lives
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Short French embassies and go long on Molotov cocktails.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:35 | 2810961 Debtonation
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Damn, great minds think alike. Beat me to it by like 5 seconds.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:37 | 2810982 John Law Lives
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Yeah, I noticed that.  Funny!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:48 | 2811055 ParkAveFlasher
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Do car fires goose automobile demand? 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:55 | 2811094 AbbeBrel
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It is a French tradition.  Bullish!!

The parable of the broken window was introduced by Frédéric Bastiat in his 1850 essay Ce qu'on voit et ce qu'on ne voit pas (That Which Is Seen and That Which Is Unseen) to illustrate why destruction, and the money spent to recover from destruction, is actually not a net-benefit to society. The parable, also known as the broken window fallacy or glazier's fallacy, demonstrates how opportunity costs, as well as the law of unintended consequences, affect economic activity in ways that are "unseen" or ignored. Wikipedia

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:33 | 2810944 Debtonation
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You could go long AK-47s and moltovs.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:57 | 2811096 Navymugsy
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No but you can go long tear gas futures...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:31 | 2810928 Flakmeister
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Umm... so the French have the cojones to do this... Good for them...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:35 | 2810957 Flakmeister
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Let me guess... the above junkers are the same tools that trumpeted "Freedom Fries".....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:47 | 2811052 Dr. Engali
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No I junked you because your comment about Mary Magdalene was unnecessary. The lack of respect for others, whatever one believes or doesn't believe, solves nothing and just leads to further hostilities.

You and I both know this isn't about some picture or movie...this is about the west clearly creating a boogie man for the masses.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:59 | 2811112 Flakmeister
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Well junk that comment then... 

She has been called a whore for almost 1500 years....

Pope Gregory the Great's homily on Luke's gospel dated 14 September 591 first suggested that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute: "She whom Luke calls the sinful woman, whom John calls Mary, we believe to be the Mary from whom seven devils were ejected according to Mark. And what did these seven devils signify, if not all the vices? ... It is clear, brothers, that the woman previously used the unguent to perfume her flesh in forbidden acts."(homily XXXIII)[17]

Now if you think the act of fellatio is a recent development, you severly underestimate the imagination of our earliest forbears...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:07 | 2811143 Spastica Rex
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It is disallowed to praise the French in any way, except perhaps if one is really pissed, one may, on rare occasion, praise the invention of the guillotine.

I'm Catholic and I watch South Park.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:14 | 2811198 Dr. Engali
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 +1 Proud South Park watching Catholic too.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:22 | 2811245 Spastica Rex
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;)

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:08 | 2811168 Dr. Engali
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I'm not denying she was a prostitute... I'm referring to your unnecessary provocation.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:11 | 2811177 Flakmeister
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Well, a lot things that I believe in get denigrated here and elsewhere, I have learned to roll with the punches so to speak....

And that is the real issue is it not?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:20 | 2811229 Dr. Engali
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For me the important issue is mutual respect and the abilty to agree to disagree.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:39 | 2811335 Flakmeister
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You clearly have missed some of the more notable exchanges at ZH....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:45 | 2811362 Dr. Engali
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I read pretty much all of them . I choose not to engage when it devolves into people cussing each other out. i like a spirited debate, but I like to walk away from the debate with a little more knowledge and a respect for the person on the other side.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:34 | 2811312 EnglishAustrian
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Not a prostitute, but would have been Jesus' wife. That is why they didn't like her.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:11 | 2812035 Cathartes Aura
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that, and the fact she's not a man.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 19:23 | 2813282 Flakmeister
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You go girl!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:40 | 2812997 JR
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Pope Gregory was not one of the authors of the Books of the Bible; and his interpretations were incorrect. The truth is, Mary Magdalene, who seems to have been wealthy, was introduced in the Bible as a woman from whom Jesus dispelled seven demons, a characterization often connected with complex illnesses.

Mary Magdelene was present at the crucifixion and was the first person to whom Jesus appeared after he arose from the dead. There is absolutely no mention in any of the Bible verses or contexts indicating that Mary Magdalene was an adulterous or a prostitute or a woman of ill repute or even a sinner. This false information and implication has been used for entertainment and emotional stories and “causes” throughout the many years, culminating in the Da Vinci Code, that while spectacularly incorrect is nevertheless very dangerous to people who are not familiar with the Bible.

Carl E. Olson and co-author  Sandra Miesel in their article, The Da Vinci Hoax: Exposing the Errors in The Da Vinci Code, write: “Mary Magdalene has a prominent role in the Gospels as witness to Christ’s resurrection, remarkable considering the low value placed on the testimony of women in first century Jewish society. Yet despite being mentioned more times than some of the apostles (Thaddeus, for example, is named just twice), some feminist writers speak of her being marginalized by a piece of propaganda... written by ‘the anti-Magdalene party.’

“The prime suspect in this alleged crime...is Pope Gregory the Great (c. 540-604). On Sept. 21, 591, he preached a homily based on Luke 7:36-50 — the story of the woman ‘who was a sinner’ who anointed Jesus’ feet with oil. ‘She whom Luke calls the sinful woman, whom John calls Mary,’ Pope Gregory stated, ‘we believe to be the Mary from whom seven devils were ejected according to Mark. And what did these seven devils signify, if not all the vices?’”

http://www.catholic.net/index.php?option=dedestaca&id=2886&grupo=News%20...

Tom Edwards writes in Mary Magdalene:

“Mary Magdalene has been thought of and portrayed, by many people, as having formerly been a woman of ill repute, a prostitute;
but one whose life had been transformed by the mercy and grace of the Lord, when she penitently besought His forgiveness.  ,,,

“Mary has been mistakenly thought to have been the woman ‘who was a sinner,’ who had washed the Lord's feet with her tears, wiped them with her hair, kissed them, and anointed them with perfume… But when we read about Mary in Luke 8 (the following chapter), she is not merely named; but also introduced as ‘...Mary who was called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out....’ We are made to realize that this could not be the same woman that chapter seven is so silent about, in concealing her identity…”

“Demon possession was not merely a figurative way of referring to someone with a mental illness. Rather, it was real demons who actually possessed that person; and, as a result, could cause physical and/or mental problems… But never does the Bible show that it caused anyone to become a prostitute…” 
http://www.thomastedwards.com/go/go040411.txt

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:37 | 2810978 kliguy38
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Sure...and I'll bet you believe "No one could see this finacial crisis coming"......

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:52 | 2811073 Flakmeister
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Actaully, I had a front row seat for it modelling CDO^2 for a monoline... So I definitely saw it coming, I was too small of a fish to play the CDS game though... at least I do have some good prints for a few Kruggerands.... 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:58 | 2811067 Sudden Debt
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Don't worry, Obama will kiss ass for what the French are doing. He always does.

Nobody can bend over as fast as Obama while chanting "WE'RE SORRY!, WE'RE SORRY!, WE'RE SORRY!"

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:32 | 2810932 francis_sawyer
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Jesus'es grandmother wears army boots...

~~~

There ~ are we even?... Can we call off WW3?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:33 | 2810940 Flakmeister
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Mary Magdalene was a cocksucking whore!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:49 | 2811018 ParkAveFlasher
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I'd drop a denarius on the board to hit that.  Just sayin'

[edit: A REAL denarius]

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:44 | 2811028 CommunityStandard
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Uh-oh.  Now your funeral is going to get picketed with signs that say "Thank God For Dead Soldiers"

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:49 | 2811059 Argonaught
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Mary Magdalene was Jesus' cocksucking whore (among many others)

Since we are being honest and all...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:53 | 2811085 Grinder74
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Actually, it's widely believed that she was, and left that life to follow Jesus and the disciples.  What of it?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:02 | 2811125 francis_sawyer
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Let the person whose wife (or boyfriend) that has never sucked a cock in their life cast the first stone...

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Jeez: My ORIGINAL comment was an effort to avoid WW3 ~ Instead, with this one, I'm probably stating a WW3 of misogyny...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:19 | 2811221 Argonaught
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Did you mean a wife that NO LONGER sucks cock?  Even Jesus wouldn't marry a woman that had never sucked cock.  

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:03 | 2811131 Argonaught
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By left that life, you mean she stopped charging for it...cuz she still liked smokin' the JC Pole....or so I have heard...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:05 | 2811124 Flakmeister
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Did St. Anne really wear army boots? Or were you referring to his paternal grandmother?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:32 | 2810936 HelluvaEngineer
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CIA: now hiring talented artists

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:38 | 2810942 GetZeeGold
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New positions have suddenly come free.....in Libya.

 

Play your cards right....and we'll make you an Ambassador.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:35 | 2810958 HelluvaEngineer
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Do you like to sketch, draw, or maybe just doodle?  If you can draw Tippy the Turtle, we have a job for you!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:34 | 2810938 The Count
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I say lets redicule all major religions, because in the end they are all bogus. greedy jews, pedophile priests, whacko muslims....

Its all just to control the masses.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:52 | 2811022 Scalaris
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Most people take this shit seriously.

Evidently, intellectual dilution becomes linear with group expansion.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:47 | 2811050 TruthHunter
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The Count: "I say lets redicule all major religions, because in the end they are all bogus. Its all just to control the masses."

Oh sure, the Athiests have a really good track record for running safe countries. 

Never mind that masses, we need something to control the leaders.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:50 | 2811069 Argonaught
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Is that tired old meme of Hitler the Athiest still making the rounds??

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:01 | 2811123 Grinder74
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Well he certainly wasn't a Christian or a Jew.  I suppose you're forgetting Mao, Stalin, Lenin, and Castro too.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:05 | 2811148 Argonaught
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Hitler was a christian.  Read his writings...especially the personal correspondence.  And yes, the communitsts...quite an interesting subset of athiests.  All communists = bad.  All communists = Athiests.  All Athiest are therefore bad.  QED.  Good work....for a 2nd grader.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:20 | 2811508 Cast Iron Skillet
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hmmmm ... I thought that his father was the illegitimate son of a well-to-do Jew, whom his mother worked for as a maid. His father was a real bastard, whom he hated. There was an anti-semetic atmosphere in his family and the village where he grew up. He projected his hatred for his father & probably grandfather onto all Jews.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:03 | 2811130 Scalaris
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It isn't obligatory for stupid to be replaced by stupid of a different kind.

Nor is disregard for logic an excusable solution, for the justification of a required herd control, more so when the herd's sub-fractions  are prone to perpetual sectarian divisionism.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:08 | 2811167 francis_sawyer
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The only historically truly safe religions (speaking in terms of being beneficial for the world at large), would have to be the "People's Temple" & "Branch Davidian" followers...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:12 | 2811185 Flakmeister
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Reminds me of this oldie

Q: "What do you call the children of the Branch Davidians?"

A: "Kindling"

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:32 | 2811296 Ignatius
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Headlines and taglines you don't see:

"Today the agnostics were again shelling the athiest stronghold..."

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:32 | 2811297 I am a Man I am...
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So maybe it's not about if you are an atheist, christian, jew, or muslim and it's about whether or not you are a raging murderous bloodthirsty sociopath.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:47 | 2811626 duckarooni
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Pagans are ok. They were ok until Judeo Christianity came along and fucked everybody up.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:33 | 2810941 stant
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start a bar fight then get back and watch. place bets pick up a droped wallet then head for the door

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:40 | 2811010 francis_sawyer
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You just stated the apostolic creed for Zionism...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:04 | 2811138 AbbeBrel
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Actually this is a (in)decent manipulation if you are long oil futures.   What would it take to get the Saudi population riled up (or revive them from their Dollar engorged (think Manna from heaven to totally mix metaphors) state of torpor?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:33 | 2810945 Acet
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Freedom of speech, Bitchez!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:34 | 2810949 Upswaller
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We go Boom, they go Boom, everybody Boom Boom!!!!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:34 | 2810950 Abraxas
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JC seems to be much more open to jokes at his account than the Mohammad. I guess that Christians got lots of anger out of their system during the Inquisition.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:42 | 2810995 Seorse Gorog fr...
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I think Christians just don't care about Jesus as much.

 

But it's as if this magazine wants to provoke violence but in doing so will probably get the blowback. Now that's what I call a Pyrrhic Victory (not considering any possible megalomaniac machinations behind the scenes).

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:06 | 2811139 Christophe2
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They WANT the blowback, since clearly they are doing everything they can to generate it...

 

Just like the countless posts here by the Zionist trolls indicate, the goal is to convince us that Muslims are savages and that our only option is to murder them in 'self defense'.

 

Never mind that it's only the Saudi/Salafist brand of the Muslim faith that is truly problematic (while the rest is generally positive, certainly much more so than Talmudic Jewry), and that Western powers are doing everything in their power to spread that vile fundamentalist Islam throughout the world, directly harming Christians, Jews and moderate Muslims in the process.

 

The trolls on this page want you to think that all Islam = Mossad-manipulated Salafism...  Who is dumb enough to fall for that?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:50 | 2811070 GoinFawr
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@ Abraxas

Hesse called: he wants his reconciliation between God and the Devil back.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:52 | 2811082 Abraxas
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Ha! Ha! Very good!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:02 | 2811127 sdmjake
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While no official numbers exist from the Spanish Inquisition, the # of deaths (approx 2,000) are estimated at roughly the same # as US soldier deaths during the last decade in Afghanistan. Personally, I'm about tired of all the killing in the name of _______.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:03 | 2811135 Grinder74
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John 15:18 - "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first."

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:34 | 2810951 Dr. Engali
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The west needs somebody to blame high oil and gas prices on. It's time to get those "crazy Muslims" all fired up.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:35 | 2810962 kliguy38
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GOLD! BIATCHEZ

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:36 | 2810973 The Count
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Dude, you are like sooooo way behind.....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:04 | 2811140 Grinder74
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I was a way cooler Sith than you were.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:27 | 2811269 viahj
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you didn't last long though.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:36 | 2810964 Nid
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"second major provocation against the Muslim world by the west"??? Wtf? State sponsored cartoons and home videos? Get a grip appeaser, the "artists" were simply "expressing" themselves.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:39 | 2811000 Abraxas
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Why do the Muslims always fall for this though? By now, they should be like, I don't care, you're the one that's going to burn in hell, while I'm fondling the virgins.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:44 | 2811030 Nid
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What's more confusing is the POV of this ZH article. Is there a belief that the highly coordintaed, two staged, heavily armed attack on the US embassy...on the Anniversary of 9/11, no less...was the result of a home video which no one viewed?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:36 | 2810968 PontifexMaximus
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finally, yalla, yalla!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:36 | 2810975 Quinvarius
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This is like the Planet of The Apes movie where the apes take over.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:54 | 2811089 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Caesar is my role model. The first ape to say, "No!" A real Tea Party kind of guy.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:37 | 2810976 Jason T
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flipping the chess board again.. oh shit.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:38 | 2810980 lsbumblebee
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Oh good. Now the Zionist nightly news can show this interspersed with 1979 Iran embassy footage to show how Muslims aren't rational human beings but instead react like animals being poked with a stick.  

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:44 | 2811036 Abraxas
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Just like they've done with the Russians, the Germans, the Serbs ...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:49 | 2811060 catacl1sm
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To be fair, most animals that get poked with a stick will run. The actual order of preservation in the face of a danger is run, play dead, fight.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:59 | 2811110 lsbumblebee
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To be fair to whom? Animals being poked with a stick?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:08 | 2811164 falak pema
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r u insinuating they be poked with more human stuff to make it fair? 

A fair deal and a fair poke; holy smoke! 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:38 | 2810986 AL_SWEARENGEN
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Talk about an instant collectors item...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:38 | 2810988 Dr. No
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Did Tyler cave by not showing the entire image?  Maybe it is a copyright issue or is it fear?  Personally I would be scared too and dont blame you.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:41 | 2811011 crito
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Don't be scared. Fear is the starting point of doom.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:05 | 2811709 JoBob
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Since the newsworthy "fair use"rule makes it available for news reporting, I'd think the entire image could be posted. This may be the last time we have the opportunity to see Mohammad's nether parts. If we're gonna have a war, at least we should be able to see the reason for it.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:40 | 2810993 Bartanist
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1. When is it EVER right to ridicule someone and their values unless you intend to create a war?

2. We KNOW that the mainstream media is CONTROLLED by the people who control the governments, so either the government didn't get the memo or they are publicly claiming one thing while privatly supporting the opposite. (or is France different than the rest of the world)

Nothing happens by accident. It is all part of a plan... and they apparently believe that they have found a way to ridicule the Islamic people and goad them into a disasterous war... and most likely claim that the Muslim countries started it. (why that is important, I am not sure ... but maybe because they think they need the support of the people. But. the lies are thinly veiled.)

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:52 | 2811080 InconvenientCou...
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When is a meme more important than a sentient being?

Never.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:54 | 2811088 Argonaught
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1.  What?  Shut up.  When is it NOT right to ridicule someone?  Maybe when their mom dies is the only possible time...

2.  Point 1 was so dumb I didn't read this one

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:57 | 2811101 CrockettAlmanac.com
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How many Muslims have seen their mothers and other loved ones murdered with your tax dollars?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:00 | 2811120 Nid
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Whatever that number is, throughout history more muslims have seen family members die at the hands of other muslims.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:35 | 2811317 CrockettAlmanac.com
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And more Christians have been killed by Christians than by Muslims. So who does that make you want to kill?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:43 | 2811603 Nid
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And US tax dollars have funded efforts which killed many more non-muslims than muslims. My tax dollars weren't used to "kill muslims". The effort, right or wrong, was/is not a Crusade...ie, Hussein was a secularist.... you amy disagree with US policy, I may disagree with US policy, but that policy is not an effort in genocide. Muslims have been killing, torturing, mutilating other muslims for nearly 2000 years....the Palestiinians have had their collective balls kicked in by just about every other "muslim"/arab culture since the beginning of time...yet it appears that muslims are only outraged by Western "injustices.

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