I know that’s hard to digest in a society where pregnancies and marriages of D-list celebrities make the cover of People magazine, but there comes a point where the public’s right to know needs to take a back seat to matters like national security and diplomacy.
Heads should roll because of the Fast and Furious debacle. We don’t need every detail of that operation to be made public in order for that to happen.
If it were an isolated sting, maybe. But it is at least the third incarnation of a gun-running scheme stretching across two administrations, which means we could be pressing to open Pandora’s Box. We do not want to open Pandora’s Box, not about this and certainly not about a bunch of other potentially scandalous things the federal government has been involved with.
Fast and Furious? Please.
Being told that something’s “none of your business” is slowly being characterized as rude, and if such a statement is coming from the government, it seems incriminating.
Times have changed. Yet, not everything is our business. And in the political arena, there are things that should be and need to be kept quiet. . . .
You see, freedom isn’t entirely free.
It also isn’t squeaky clean.
And sometimes the federal government deems it necessary to get its hands a little dirty in the hopes of achieving something we generally accept as good for the country.
And maybe it’s better for us not to be so nosy, not to know everything because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie “A Few Good Men,” many of us won’t be able to handle the truth.
LZ Granderson, CNN Columnist
This is the kind of sophomoric anti-liberty trash that passes for journalism today? Shut your mouth, mind your own business, don’t ask questions of your loving government?
Granderson may be a rabid Obama apologist who would reflexively defend anything Obama says or does, and there’s no law against that. But this man is trying to pass himself off as a journalist!
Journalism is about asking questions that corporations, governments and establishments don’t want to answer. It’s about reporting the full-story, no matter how many toes you step on. It’s about opening up power to real scrutiny. And that is something that the propagandists in big media are often incapable of — which of course is why big media is slowly dying.
I get apoplectic whenever some hawkish deficit-happy foreign policy schmuck advocates American intervention in Syria (no matter how many archaic Turkish planes are shot out of the sky) even more than I did before America struck Iraq.
The utterly bizarre imperative of American intervention in the middle east is thrown into stunning contrast against the background of utter lawlessness and destruction on America’s own border with Mexico as a direct result of the failed drug war. The clowns in successive administrations have spent so much time, effort and energy on policing the borders of Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia, yet they have failed to check the growth of the drug cartels into massive, well-armed organisations.
By trying to obstruct the congressional investigation into the botched gun-running operation Fast and Furious, and instead hiding behind the phoney front of executive privilege Obama and Holder have shown that they have something to hide.
Whatever they are trying to hide should be brought to light. You can’t have an accountable government without checks and balances, and the greatest check to tyranny is transparency.
We need to know the depth and width of Fast and Furious and the programs which preceded it: how was it authorised, how was it designed, how did it go wrong, who was to blame for it going wrong.
We need to know whether or not the widely-spread allegation that the Obama administration has sold guns directly to Los Zetas is true. We need to know whether or not El Chapo and the Sinaloa Cartel are working with the DEA and the Mexican government. (Both of these allegations are widely accepted as fact in Mexico).
We need to know why Obama has chosen to continue the failed drug war, even in spite of overwhelming evidence that the illegality of drugs is the very thing that empowers the criminal cartels, and in spite of the fact that Obama is a former drug user.
We probably won’t get our answers directly from politicians; while it is the responsibility of journalists to ask these kinds of tough questions, politicians will almost always deflect. But I am sure there are some conscientious people inside the DEA, inside the Mexican government, and inside the Justice Department who will blow the whistle sooner or later. Anyone who can answer these questions is serving the public good. We can handle the truth, no matter what LZ Granderson or Eric Holder thinks. We need to hold government to account for its actions.



Good read. Journalism died a long time ago for the majority of the people. TV replaced it and TV is there to calm the people, lure them into buying the latest and greatest gadget, and tell them whats on sale this week. To be honest most pople do not give a shit about the truth. Why do I state that, because almost everyone here at one time was in the fricking dark and had their heads in the sand. For the most part it took a significant event to open their eyes. Even then most will keep their heads in the sand. I got jolted in 2008. There are times when watching the TV I wish I had taken the green pill. But now I am glad the red pill was taken as most of the time with people from this site and a few others I see exactly what the fuckers are doing. The only problem is even when presented with facts people prefer to take a party line or believe the TV. We are so fucking screwed. Rant/off
My boss and I were discussing the problem in Europe the other day and her secretary chimes in, "What going on in Greece?" Facepalm and left.
Nice rant if the other option wasn't, in fact, a blue pill. Better check for sand in your ears
Fail. Government has shown it can't be trusted with a pretty cash fund, that it steals and runs ponzis on its own citizens, and that it creates entire departments to institutionalize lying (BLS, DOJ, SEC, etc etc etc). Based upon this behavior, we're to have "faith" that what they do with guns, drugs and drones is somehow for a moral good but with too messy a truth for us to handle?
Nah. Just people playing God, and a system that wants to protect the myth that they should continue to play God.
Drugs are big money so they will always be illegal, the US protects their Cartel friends and supplies them with weapons to kill their competition, That is a fact. And why would they stop the war on drugs? it is another way to spend tax payers money and hire their buddies and give out contracts, won't stop happening until maybe the dollar is no more.
The clowns in successive administrations have spent so much time, effort and energy on policing the borders of Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia, yet they have failed to check the growth of the drug cartels into massive, well-armed organisations.
They failed, really? Never knew they were trying to succeed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haji_Ayub_Afridi
After the September 11 attacks he was freed from prison in Karachi after serving just a few weeks of a seven-year sentence for the export of 6.5 tons of hashish, seized at Antwerp, Belgium, in the 1980s. He had also been fined 5 million rupees (US$82,000). No reasons were given for Afridi's release, or under which legislation he was allowed to return to his home town in Khyber Agency in Federally Administered Tribal Areas.[1]
LZ Grandersen is a hack, probably got paid well to write that piece of trash article. CNN needs to fire him. Then again, CNN needs to just die as well.
I WANT THE DAMN TRUTH YOU GOVERNMENT HACKS!!!
You'll have all the truth you can stomach ... after the revolution.
Though of course you might be dead by then.
Been waiting.. /sigh/ Someday, perhaps before I DIE OF OLD AGE.. it might happen.
Silence of the lambs! All this pathetic asshole declared was ''shoot and kill me now, as dead as the officer'', that officer that did not know the satanic standard of ''knowing'' and screwing the Drag Queen of Rosemary's Baby was the new world order of the day and not the sustaining old spirit of the United States Constitution, the one people died for because it was not suicidal and pure evil. May everyone that voted for, and that remains standing in agreement with Rosemary's Baby, perish with him and every single one of his defenders. Let this deadly and evil standard fall upon them now and may they all be bound for the hellfire of their contempt. DIE NOW BITCHEZ!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-wFT52K27c
Nigga Please !!!!!!!
Legalizing drugs would work like a magic wand. It would hurt the cartels, reduce America's need for police and police organizations--the DEA would go away. And who knows? Maybe we could even free from jail all those "criminals" in there for petty drug busts or drug-related crimes.
Alas, I doubt it will ever happen. This stupid war against drugs will go on and on.
Blacks are by far bigger racists than most other groups. They won't even bring any critical examination to their illustrious leader because of his race ... and they wonder how they became enslaved in the first place back in Africa. Too bad, so sad ... and don't be telling me not to ask questions there little affirmative action baby.
LZ Granderson a journalist? More like a men's room attendant at best.
If I wanted this putz's opinion on current events and my thoughts on it ,Ill beat it out of him, with whatever is closest at the time. He's a drug store woman with too much lipstick. Sad to say there is alot of that going around.
10 or so years ago I subscribed to a newsletter put out by the radical Islamic group Hizb ut Tahrir. One of the more memorable things I read from this group was their bemoaning the lack of solidarity amongst Muslims. As the writer put it " If Muslims had the same religious solidarity as American blacks have a racial solidarity, Muslims would be invincible" It is so true. Obama would still carry the black vote in the US if he was caught personally trading guns for cocaine with the Zetas!
He kinda was.
A wonderful opportunity for some folks.
"And maybe it’s better for us not to be so nosy, not to know everything because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie “A Few Good Men,” many of us won’t be able to handle the truth.
LZ Granderson, CNN Columnist"
Funny that we didn't hear this kind of sentiment from Woodward and Bernstein or any other journalists over Watergate, or the Vietnam war.
They've located Soetoro's dad. He wants a DNA test.
Journalism (as a whole) is jockeying to be part of the 1% power structure. To become part of the State, to leverage their skills with language and tone and their ability to replay history as a function of the control grid.
I'm concerned about the power of the word. I wrote a bit of fiction (ironically enough) that explores the theme:
http://madscienceunlimited.com/fiction/thisHeartOfGold.html
It covers a lot of ground, actually. Including as the title implies the holding (well -- the keeping) of precious metals.
Americans could rise above these facile attempts at mind control, once they sense they have been painted into a corner. But will they? I'm not convinced. I can see several roads to Hell from where I'm standing.
The challenge is simple. To think. For yourself. Like a tiger.
But he looks so.. "Hip".
He's a black "queer" which means he could sodomize the Pope during High Holy Mass and get a promotion over it. He wouldn't get punished if he was celebrating Trail of Tears, Japanese internment camps and Operation Wetback.
"Hey, what can I tell you? Freedom Eggs need to get cracked to make the Omelet of Liberty."
The media is just a TOOL for the TOOLS in office, which are owned by other TOOLS..
Damnit.. Time to break some TOOLS over those TOOLS heads..
Katie; I know what I said but don't believe that bull shit. I told you there'd be some transitory shit didn't I ? Think about it!!! This is the sign! You know it is! You said it yourself. So now you know. But thats just Tunga talk.
Looks like CNN is doubling-down on their "facts":
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/06/28/CNN-Questions-Whether-Fast-Furious-Actually-Happened
This obviously is not the Fast and Furious you are looking for.
Double-think works like this:
First, you know what happened.
Then you start to think maybe it did not happen. Because that's the better thought and leads to fewer problems.
And then you think you did not actually need to think it did not happen, because that implies something maybe did happen, and that's just not true. Because clearly it didn't happen.
And then ... it's okay again. It never happened.
Re: Drug war: They don't care whether or not you're on drugs. Only whose. Obama's on some tobacco company's now. I can appreciate how his wife advocates for health and personal responsibility, and he still has the nerve to smoke cigarettes. Nice. Oh, and LZ Granderson is nothing more than a paid troll. Lotsa clicks for this one, bitchez!
I thought he quit. Or at least he's gone with the image of quitting. But I'm not going to give him any grief over it. I smoked for over ten years, and wanted to quit for the last five of them. Finally got over the hump last year.
The thing about cigarettes is, you know it's bad for you, you want to quit, but they're terribly addictave and available everywhere in convienent 20 packs. There is no "nerve" in smoking, just the inability to quit.
I don't recall the media holding Bush to that same standard. I believe they wanted to know if he farted in church and why. Not that he was all that forthcoming but the media certainly asked all the hard questions which they refuse to engage in now. Hmmm...IMHO it is what makes Obama and the government more dangerous than ever, media's intellectually dishonest notion of journalism when as it pertains to this administration. The media now engages in the "see no evil" "hear no evil" "speak no evil" and as long as they continue in that vein then the government will not and cannot be held accountable to the people in which they are supposed to serve. Naive notion at this point but it doesn't have to be.
yeah right, where the fuck was the media asking all the tough questions running up to the iraq war?gimme a break
It sure is interesting how much Das Machina is protecting the F&F issue. It's almost like it's not about Holder, but maybe even the big-O had knowledge of it. I can't see why they're so determined to defend such an unpopular AG--particularly in an election year.
Methinks there is more to this..
"And sometimes the master deems it necessary to get his hands a little dirty in the hopes of achieving something we generally accept as good for the plantation."
So what are you saying? The MSM has gone around the bend?
maybe he's the reason CNN is such a disaster
so in addition to being an indonesian citizen, obama is a former (current?) drug user? this is news even to me.....thank you for sharing that....
the problem with the drug trade is that it is sponsored by the bush crime syndicate and cia, both of whom have very long ties to drug growing and distribution. in fact, one of the impetuses for the vietnam war was the golden triangle drug trade to finance alleged anti-communist activity, when in fact it was to zombify america.....
the drug cartels are intimately associated with the bush crime syndicate - obama was simply doing his duty in supplying them guns and cash....
the clintons were put in the white house because slick willie provided cover for bush's mena drug operation. of course bill snorted most of the profits but that is another story entirely.
again, so what? is zH about finding every lo-level shill or hack and trying him here in kafka-land? get yer hatchets, BiCheZ!
i think we hafta live and let live at a certain level
of course i haven't watched turner broadcasting or any TV in so long, i can't remember what it is like
if people in zH don't have anything better to do than go "ain't it awful" about some black dude on CNN and how cutesy million$cunt is about it when she takes the top of the string off for the nnnth time, you deserve each other!
and don't forget to wear condoms, fellas
My G-dar is never wrong and it was pegged as soon as I saw that picture...
"was named journalist of the year by the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association"
Who is your enemy? Yourself? Your neighbor? The Gov wants you to have enemies, as long as it is not the Gov itself, it is a good way to deflect attention. Democracy is organized chaos so the team with the blue shirts fight the team with the red shirts, in the mean time the government strives, grows and scoffs at you. The government wants you to choose a shirt whatever shirt, but choose a shirt and fight each other. Wake up. Who is your enemy?
The reporter who would have strangled "Deep Throat".
i'll patiently watch my beloved blythe pull the zH train
i'll BiCh-slap jamie with ya; call out bilary
and i wrote to AGeHolder (on zH) about the US militia well over a year ago and addressed him: dear sir or madam:
i have no grudge against this guy, he may have a pretty good idea what is there b/c he's already looked, ya know? maybe he knows what the colonel at guantanimo knows...about the budget? what if this guy is vetted by the feds for info security at the network; everyone/others/all may not be; but he may have been trained in this response to stop the questioning and, yes, control what is being published as "true"
how would we know? why should we assume this guy is who he pretends to be? what is TV at this point here on zH anyhow but the very drug we should fear and respect most?
guess what? there are some totally ape-shit operations guys pushing envelopes steroidally with hiPower + hiTech + hiFinace
and the story about the guns is ready to come out and is coming out already thru investigative types and the paint they are getting if you catch my drift; do you know where this info currently resides? and why? what story have you heard? i've seen some interesting stuff about the plays for the weapons and it's early in the game, imo; who has the info and when did they not have it?
this guy appears to cover kansas, Toto {quick! get me the scoop on the guy in the bigHouse wth the drones!}? but maybe he is GS 15? who knows?
you wanna finish SEAL school and then we'll let ya know when we start on the stuff outa the funny papers after we see what kinda crazy ya are...? L0L!!!
Wait a sec...
you are saying it's OK to come on ZH and call out Jamie Dimon and Hillary but not this guy because "he's just doing his job"? LOL if you believe that.
Sorry dude but writing parking tickets is a more noble calling than writing for CNN.
One of the reasons Jamie Dimon and Hillary Clinton do what they do is because the mainstream media is so complacent. Yet I've never seen anyone from the MSM be so explicit in this regard as this dumb douche from CNN. Yes, he's most definitely part of the problem.
At least Mr. D and Ms. C did something with their lives. This tool on the other hand is just a foot servant to them. Fuk him and fuk anyone of his ilk.
Only thing missing is "da grill". Welcome to the Jew World Order.
What a shame that peak oil is soon to scroom us all. Before you know it, you will no longer be able to post "blame the jews" comments on ZH, and I will no longer be able to post Carly Rae Jepsen videos.
The Long Emergency indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic
Blame the Jews, drone the Muslims, screw the Goy. At least somebody has a plan.
Nice mullet.
Disco Duck look.
Fucking traitor.
i've never heard of this guy!
is he really this much of a problem?
are you ok? or is this just fun for you?
apparently people have relationships with this guy's MSM image and they may or may not be healthy?
this TV thing is a big divide tyler; has this guy been on the view or the grand ole oprah? people mag cover girl? i feel so out of it... i didn't know this was a media bad guy, honest
i might as well have geraldo's back? oh! the humanity!
see ya
Yoo n dis guys' club or sumptin'? Gotta soff spot fo homey pi-rats?
I know I know I am a RACYSS but that is the ugliest mother fucker I have ever seen.
Its not called ugly, its called "cool" look.
Minitrue, Minipax, Miniplenty have declared all thought criminals double plus ungood and will be put into a memory hole. We are at war with East Asia. We have always been at war with Easst Asia. BB, BB.
Dear Mom,
Tonight I wrote this on Zero Hedge and someone responded to me with a Carly Rae Jepsen video. This happened because
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic
LZ reminds me of Fareed Zakaria. They both have shared more than a few bath house sessions with the choomer in chief, or at least thats what I heard. And you don't have a right ask me any questions about it, either.
or at least thats what I heard.
And based on that, I say we should be spending tonight breaking down the finer points of JPM's dividend.
I mean, if this is the greatest website in the world (which it is) but we are peaking tonight at speculation about what a useless idiot (or two or three) needs to get off, then I say go long the pigmen.
Buy and hold. No?
Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it
Some call it tampee
Some call it the weed
Some call it Marijuana
Some of them call it Ganja
Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it
Singer smoke it
And players of instruments too
Legalize it, yeah, yeah
That's the best thing you can do
Doctors smoke it
Nurses smoke it
Judges smoke it
Even the lawyers too
Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it
It's good for the flu
It's good for asthma
Good for tuberculosis
Even umara composis
Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it
Bird eat it
And they leave it
Fowls eat it
Goats love to play with it
No offense dude as you have a pretty nice Username. Probably in the top 10% of ZH usernames. That's saying something.
But here we are, face to face, and you are posting song lyrics like some 12 year-old girl. Yet TPTB reamain TPTB in no small part because you and I choose these activities on a Friday afternoon/night.
What do we gotta do differently? I welcome all ideas.
Sweet! The face of the Long Pig.
"War on drugs" will continue as long as illegal drug trafficking is a generous source of income for all kind of covert operations. CIA used it many times before, for example, but they surely are not the only ones. Dirty money coming from everything deemed illegal is too useful to too many people, so I doubt any "war on drugs" will ever cease. But of course our "ethically superior" governments will never admit such "horrendous" thing. This is how our hypchritical world works.
Well if the US gov isn't running guns and setting up money laundering,
then I better sell my Wachovia shares, because they're going under.
I've got great hopes for the transport company delivering flowers
from Afghanistan over the Khyber Pass, on mule. I hear there's a great security unit there with like, uniforms , like soldiers like, and they speak
American!
Is this issue politcal? Of course. But,that does not mean that there is no coverup going on here. Probably the last bastion of hope keeping us from tyranny in most democratic countries is the fact the we have opposing political parties that are incentivized to expose the other's dirt. In this case, the dirt might expose both parties, which is why this is all just Kabuki theatre. Bottom line is that Holder is a political stoodge (shocking I know) and a Federal Justice Department is an oxymoron. I bet we will see the F&F documents right around the same time that Holder files charges on Corzine.
If he'd even hinted privately that he was thinking about charges against Corzine, this would never have happened. There's a limit to principle . . . even for congresscritters.
Has anybody seen JJ Walker recently?
I think he's been found.
ya, dynomite