Guest Post: Former Marine Arrested For Patriotic Posts On Facebook

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Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt-Market

Former Marine Arrested For Patriotic Posts On Facebook

First the establishment started going after current serving military men for their outspoken political views on Facebook and other web venues, men like Marine Sergeant Gary Stein.  Now, it seems the government is going after veterans as well.  This is the classic pattern of a burgeoning totalitarian state; attack a small group first (outspoken serving military) which the public ignores because it affects them little personally, then slowly expand out to eventually include everyone else.  To all those insipid bottom feeders out there who refused to defend Gary Stein's right to free speech, here is what you have wrought.  Because of your ignorance, the government has been able to set a social precedent which they now plan to apply to a whole new group of people, starting with former Marine Brandon Raub.  The common statist slave will give the typical coward's response, which would sound a little something like this:

"...When are people going to learn that Facebook isn't private?  You would have to be stupid to express such views where everyone can see..."

"They didn't arrest him, they just 'detained' him..."

"He's former military and should be 'ashamed' of his comments against the government., blah blah blah, etc..."

The bottom line is, the 1st Amendment is NOT conditional.  ALL speech must be protected, no matter who you are, or where you happen to be speaking.  Just because our current criminal government decides 1st Amendment protections do not apply to Facebook does not mean they have the authority to make such distinctions.  In fact, the Constitution explicitly outlines how they are restricted from making such distinctions.  If a government entity, ANY government entity, attempts to violate Constitutional restrictions, it must be removed by any means necessary.

Take note that the FBI used the accusation of "terrorist threats" by Brandon Raub as an excuse for the arrest even though there is no indication that any actual threats were present on his Facebook page..

(Brandon's comments included observations that 9-11 was done by the government (even going to such length, and an interestingly detailed thesis, of providing evidence to augment this), the War on Terror is a lie, Americans are killing innocent people in the ME, the current federal banking system is corrupt and unfeasible to Americans, and that the George Bush's family rapes little children)

I would say that all of these claims have enough circumstantial evidence behind them to warrant a serious independent investigation, and even if they didn't, there is no law against "conspiracy theory", at least not yet...

The police and FBI also failed to read Raub his Miranda Rights. Could this be one of the first public instances of the enforcement of NDAA detainment provisions against a U.S. citizen as a so called "domestic terrorist"?  You know, those detainment provisions that Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs alike claim "don't exist"?

My question for the statist slaves is, how soon will it be before they get to you?  Do you really believe your complacency and apathy will save you?  Has that kind of philosophy saved any slave under any other tyranny of the past?  This is NOT a free country anymore, and if we do not act to defend each individual who suffers under the weight of bureaucratic oppression, then everyone will lose everything.  It is time to pick a side.

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monoloco's picture

Yeah, how many remember the Bonus Army?

Gully Foyle's picture


Dude, the majority here can't even remember what they wrote yesterday. Attention span of hummingbirds. And dumber than the average garden gnome.

But they do love their TWO MINUTES HATE.

monad's picture

Hummingbird foreplay lasts at most 3-15 minutes and they are polygamous. Thats not dumb, that's totally awesome. We don't stand a chance.

UGrev's picture

Probably very few since they probably don't teach about it in public school. Well...I can tell you this much... I CERTAINLY didn't learn about this in public school. 

Rick64's picture

 This is nothing new. Here is the Patriot Act of 1918.

The Sedition Act of 1918 (Pub.L. 65-150, 40 Stat. 553, enacted May 16, 1918) was an Act of the United States Congress that extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds. "[1]

It forbade the use of "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, its flag, or its armed forces or that caused others to view the American government or its institutions with contempt. Those convicted under the act generally received sentences of imprisonment for 5 to 20 years.

Most U.S. newspapers "showed no antipathy toward the act" and "far from opposing the measure, the leading papers seemed actually to lead the movement in behalf of its speedy enactment."[

And then there is the Sedition and Alien Act of 1798.

The Sedition Act (officially An Act in Addition to the Act Entitled "An Act for the Punishment of Certain Crimes against the United States"; ch. 74, 1 Stat. 596) made it a crime to publish "false, scandalous, and malicious writing" against the government or certain officials. It was enacted July 14, 1798, with an expiration date of March 3, 1801 (the day before Adams' presidential term was to end).

Thomas Jefferson, upon assuming the Presidency, pardoned those still serving sentences under the Sedition Act,[18] though he also used the acts to prosecute several of his own critics before the acts expired.

 An American forefather abusing his power? One of the people he used it against was the reporter that wrote the story of Jefferson fathering an illegitimate child by a slave which turned out to be true.


KK Tipton's picture

"An American forefather abusing his power?"


They. Were. Not. Good. People.

Francis Bacon (card carrying member of multiple secret societies) had a very wild, ambitious scheme.
The funniest part was the hijacking of Christianity (King James bible etc) from the Roman Catholics.
Not that they were any good either.

We are still living in the fallout from his (and his collaborators) little Mayflower experiment.
The whole "We know what's best for you" deal.

Jackoffs. Wonder if they knew it would lead to perpetual world wars.

AnAnonymous's picture

We are still living in the fallout from his (and his collaborators) little Mayflower experiment.
The whole "We know what's best for you" deal.


'Americanism' is the big deal. Nothing else.

Red Heeler's picture

"One of the people he used it against was the reporter that wrote the story of Jefferson fathering an illegitimate child by a slave which turned out to be true."

You refer, no doubt, to Sally Hemings.

Not true, sir.

"If he ever noticed her or remembered her at all, Sally had been only ten years old when Jefferson last visited Monticello hurriedly in 1784 to pack James Hemings off to France with him. She was only eight when Jefferson had last resided at Monticello and was mourning his wife's death. Unless Brodie [Fawn M. Brodie, author of: Thomas Jefferson: An Intimate History] was suggesting that Jefferson consoled himself by having an affair with an eight-year-old child, the whole chain of suppositions is preposterous." - Thomas Jefferson, A Life, by Willard Sterne Randall, page 476 

In my opinion the relatively recent MSM attacks against the author of our Declaration of Independence are designed to put doubts in the minds of the American People about the quality and strength of not only the author of the document but to sully the document itself. Shame on them and shame on you.

Rick64's picture

She was born in 1773.

In 1787 Sally Hemings at the age of 14 was chosen to accompany Mary (Polly), the youngest daughter of Jefferson, to Paris to rejoin her father; the widower was serving as the US Minister to France. She spent two years there.

Then there is the DNA evidence.

In January 2000, the Thomas Jefferson Memorial Foundation accepted the conclusion, supported by Foster’s DNA evidence, that Jefferson and Hemings were sexual partners, and that they had between one and six children together between 1790 and 1808.

 But more important than this issue is ;

Thomas Jefferson, impressed with Callender's attack on Hamilton, and eager to create a counterforce to the Federalist press,[10] sought to use Callendar's talents against John Adams. Subsequent to meeting him in Philadelphia, Jefferson financially supported Callender and provided feedback on early proofs of Callender's anti-Federalist pamphlet The Prospect Before Us

With his career and his social ambitions thwarted, Callender returned to newspaper work, as editor of a Federalist newspaper, the Richmond Recorder. In a series of articles attacking corruption on all sides, Callender targeted Jefferson, revealing that Jefferson had funded his pamphleteering. After denials were issued, he published Jefferson's letters to him to prove the relationship.

So Jefferson bought a journalist. The point I am making is that politicians were no less corrupt than they are today. They said and wrote a lot of good things, but that doesn't mean they adhered to it. They passed laws and used those laws against their adversaries even when it wasn't justified. They abused their power and weren't the glorified people we make them out to be. You won't read about it in our history books.

Red Heeler's picture

I can't copy the entirety of the literature concerning Sally Hemings and the muckrakers, past and present, who perpetuate this innuendo. But if you will take the time to research the material you will find that all of the evidence is circumstantial.

DNA evidence in this matter is inconclusive to the extreme. All it reveals is that one descendant of Sally Heming's children carries Jefferson genetic markers. Any Jefferson, and there are many, could be responsible. Or no Jefferson could be responsible. That's the problem with DNA evidence 200 years after the fact.

Certainly, Jefferson was a man with faults. But he deserves better than he's getting these days by the likes of you.

Rick64's picture

I will accept the fact that the DNA evidence in itself is not conclusive proof, but there is plenty of cicumstantial evidence as you have stated. Also the author you quoted seems to be way off on her age. She was in Paris during his time as a diplomat in Paris and her age when she arrived was 14 (she stayed 2 yrs.). 

During her lifetime Martha Jefferson bore seven children. Her son John, born during her first marriage, died at the age of three the summer before she married Jefferson. Of the six children born during her ten year marriage with Jefferson, only two daughters, Martha and Mary, would live to adulthood.

 So I would conclude that it wasn't any of Jefferson's offspring that had a relationship with Sally Hemmings.

Red Heeler's picture

You forgot about Jefferson's nephew.

But enough about Jefferson. Let's explore the circumstantial evidence that you kicked a puppy.

Rick64's picture

Three Carr male descendants of Peter and Samuel Carr, the nephews in question, were tested. The results showed a consensus Carr haplotype for the male line. It was conclusively different from that of the Hemings descendant and the Jefferson male line. Foster said, "The simplest and most probable explanations for our molecular findings are that Thomas Jefferson, rather than one of the Carr brothers, was the father of Eston Hemings Jefferson.

Let's explore the circumstantial evidence that you kicked a puppy.

Ok, but just because you found that puppy's blood and hair on my shoe doesn't mean I kicked it.

Rick64's picture


 I have stated that Thomas Jefferson used the Aliens and Sedition Act against James Callender (journalist), but this is incorrect. . At the time James Callender and Thomas Jefferson were on friendly terms. He pardoned him. He did however use it against his enemies before it expired.

AnAnonymous's picture

In my opinion the relatively recent MSM attacks against the author of our Declaration of Independence are designed to put doubts in the minds of the American People about the quality and strength of not only the author of the document but to sully the document itself. Shame on them and shame on you.

How could that be possible?

If indeed, the 'American' public was receptive to this kind of "attacks", it would be known by centuries.

Jefferson, among other things, kept slaves. Which is enough to put his credibility where it belongs.

That is the reverse. That is because 'Americans' are full of personality cultists that this kind of revelations can be done. Noone cares and 'Americans' will invent rationalization to kick the can.

Dr Benway's picture

Or the canard in the coalmine, since free speech only seems to apply if you have nothing controversial to say

Temporalist's picture

Speaking of protest:

Landings, protests stoke Japan-China islands dispute

"In several Chinese cities, thousands took to the streets, including in Shenzhen where small groups overturned Japanese cars and shouted slogans denouncing Japan's claim over the islands, in footage carried by Hong Kong's Cable Television."

Seer's picture

Let's see... Japan is clearly on the down and out and China is on the up, it not up and [then] out.  Japan fucked China pretty good [Nanking Massacre].  Karma brewing?

john39's picture

all your thoughts are belong to us.

1100-TACTICAL-12's picture

There ain't enough riot gear in the world. When the SHTF...

francis_sawyer's picture

They're trying their best though...


U.S. Troops To Get New Headgear For “Homeland Security Operations”

monoloco's picture

They won't need riot gear, they'll take care of everything remotely with drones.

ejmoosa's picture

You, your thoughts, and what you produce belong to US.'s picture

The picture of severe and guaranteed coming events is lost in the collective trance.

UGrev's picture

Hory fawking sheet!! You know, well.. you don't know, but I'll tell you so that you do know... I didn't watch the olympics, save a few highlights from the jujitsu matches. I didn't watch the opening and I certainly didn't watch the closing. I am certainly not an alien lizard type of person, but even I can see the symbology as clear as fucking day. That's probably some of the most "in your face" I've seen to date. 

Little John's picture

Get ready boys, I expect ‘fore too long the rodeo is gonna kick off.

Texas will be free!

Seer's picture

"Texas will be free!"

Um, well... have you noticed what's happened to all other locations that have oil that don't wish to "share?"

Debeachesand Jerseyshores's picture

Your new DHS Gulag is open for business.

As that old Eagles song "Hotel California" "you can check out but you can never leave".

The question is: Who in America will be the next Alexander Solzhenitsyn?

Gully Foyle's picture

Debeachesand Je...

"The question is: Who in America will be the next Alexander Solzhenitsyn?"

Leonard Peltier.

Uncle Remus's picture

You know, there might be more to that than is evident on the face of it.

GoingLoonie's picture

By the way there is a Hotel California, in Quepos, Equador-owned and run by a female that is no longer a US citizen.  Great Place!  I highly recommend everyone give her your business.  I even bought the coffee mugs!

Translator's picture

Only idiots have a Facebook account with their real name on it. ........Idiots!



Just like only idiots bought Facebook stock or voted for Obama.

Bay of Pigs's picture

Really? I have one. Should I worry and live in fear because of fucking FarceBerg?

I have done nothing wrong and have broken no laws and I post ZH articles there all the time. How else are people going to wake up? 

Rick Masters's picture

Exactly. Plus, the article is a little short on what he is charged with and where he is being held. His FB freinds aren't sounding very suprised at his arrest or crying illegal detention either. Which, leads me to thin maybe he did something that has nothing to do with FB, like writing threatening letters to former generals, with specific threats. I don't know. But this article could come straight of MSM cause its short on any facts and is just speculation. Give me facts or give me another article with some. I guess Tyler is running short on good news, it is Sunday.'s picture

It's the government which has not been forthcoming with the facts.


The Chesterfield PD told us that the situation "was an FBI matter and we were just there to assist them" so it could not provide us with an official reason why Raub was detained.

Raub's mother said that an FBI agent told her Raub was "arrested by the Chesterfield police department" because he "assaulted an officer and resisted arrest," then asked her if Raub "was having any issues relating to people" and told her that "the threats he was making were terrorist in nature."

When asked the Chesterfield PD said Raub has not been charged with resisting arrest and assaulting an officer.

The FBI and Secret Service will not be available for comment until Monday morning.

Read more:
Seer's picture

"His FB freinds aren't sounding very suprised at his arrest or crying illegal detention either."

That's some mighty fine logic there, NOT!

Perhaps they want to distance themselves so that they themselves don't get disappeared?

Ray1968's picture

Real name or not, they can find you with two clicks of the mouse. Aliases do not hide you.

francis_sawyer's picture

Better stay away from Disneyland too...


The new totalitarianism of surveillance technology

ZeroAvatar's picture

There were helicopters circling the entire Sturgis Rally in South Dakota.  A bouncer told me it was FBI, using facial recognition technology.


(Hells Angels had a meeting there 2 weeks prior).

Uncle Remus's picture

I heard it was nipple recognition technology, BWTFDIK.

El's picture

I'm glad to see this posted here at the widely read ZH.

bank guy in Brussels's picture

First they came for the Facebook posters

And I said nothing because I was not on Facebook ...

- - -

The above humour posted with deep respect for the plight of Marine Brandon Raub and other Americans having their freedom of speech banned ... apparently they are many, because US judges ask Google to 'erase' the victims once their freedom of speech is banned.

Brandon Raub was arrested in Richmond, Virginia, where our political refugee in Brussels from the US was also living, when they banned his freedom of speech and threatened to kill him ...

Our Brussels exile from the US was able to escape out of America alive before they killed him, he slipped over the Canadian border at Niagara Falls and got on a plane out of North America ... which is perhaps why now, they move instantly to arrest and jail a victim in the USA, instant of just banning his freedom of speech.

Our Belgian refugee documents how local policemen showed up at his door with legal papers, and a few minutes later, a US Federal Judge in Richmond, was on the telephone to him, telling him that his freedom to speak and talk to the media was instantly banned, after an 'emergency' banning of speech request made by a George Bush contributor ...a banning of speech with 'No F*cking Appeal' according to 'Judge Robert Payne is My Name, Federal Bribery is My Game'.

Shortly afterwards they threatened to kill our Brussels exile, and he couldn't say anything about the threats of course, because his freedom to speak was banned ... And now Google blocks all of this refugee's websites, because Google wants favours from American judges ... US federal judges who refuse to answer any court appeals about the illegal banning of freedom of speech:

Live Photo: Google Inc. Caught Censoring EU Search Results on US court corruption (for USA - CIA)
Google Internet Censorship - Censure d'Internet par Google - Internet censuur door Google

Some of our Brussels refugee's journalism from his websites blocked by the CIA - Google criminals:

Some articles on US court corruption censored by the CIA's Google Inc., while the author is slandered with hoaxes  the CIA's Wikipedia, and the author is blocked by Google Inc. from replying ...:

Foreign Companies Face Risk of US Court Corruption:
Doing Business in the Big Bribery Nation

America's Corrupt Legal System -
A Danger to Visitors, Travellers as Well as USA Residents

Americans Murdering Their Judges, and the US Crisis of Judicial Corruption

Current case: Wikipedia and Google in the attack on Europe, trying to murder European citizens criticising the USA:
Report to the EU Parliament and the Commission of the European Union
Anti-Competition Crimes of EU Internet Monopoly Google Inc. (with CIA) and Wikipedia (with CIA), to Erase EU Journalism, to Slander and Murder EU - Polish Citizen, Writer, Journalist,  Non-Zionist Jew

disabledvet's picture

I thought they were letting everyone out of prison these days. "Only the good people get arrested now. The bad one's go free"? Sounds like prison is a better place if that's the rule now...

otto skorzeny's picture

they'll give a clown like G-Rod 13 years and Corzine starts a new hedge fund. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

lakecity55's picture

Damning Indictment:

Related. I was reading up on the "encyclopedia" site, Wikipedia, when I found this quote by the zionist communist czar (my opinion), Cass Sunstein. It relates to suppression of free speech. Here is the quote, referring to what a government can do about "conspiracy" (free speech of same implied) theorists:


"...In a paper written in 2008, Cass Sunstein, legal scholar, and Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, wrote of appropriate government responses to conspiracy theories. In the paper he stated:

What can government do about conspiracy theories? Among the things it can do, what should it do? We can readily imagine a series of possible responses. (1) Government might ban conspiracy theorizing. (2) Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories. (3) Government might itself engage in counterspeech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories. (4) Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counterspeech. (5) Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help. Each instrument has a distinctive set of potential effects, or costs and benefits, and each will have a place under imaginable conditions. However, our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories, which involves a mix of (3), (4) and (5)."
Notice nowhere in his quote does he say the government should simply respond to its citizens with the Truth.
These bastards convict themselves with their own words. They must be eliminated from the offices of a representative Republic.
Rick Masters's picture

Hey Lakecity, do you realize you want to "eliminate" which i assume to mean kill or get rid of, someone who wrote an article on suprrssing conspiracy theories. Wouldn't that be suprressing free speech? And isn't that the very thing you say you want to stop This isn't gov't policy either, it's part of a paper he co-wrote for academic purposes. Either way it's hypocritical. Give me all the thumbs down ya want, don't care, but I just point out the obvious. I don't like hypocrisy.