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"I Am Jim Rogers And I Support Ron Paul"
Ron Paul has another illustrious supporter - Jim Rogers. The Quantum fund co-founder, who has been spot on about pretty much everything for the past 3 years (see Roubini Versus Rogers Is Right Debate for 2010: Investor Jim Rogers thinks gold will double to at least $2,000 an ounce. Economist Nouriel Roubini says that’s “utter nonsense.” As these well-known market personalities duke it out, they’re doing us a favor by highlighting a critical debate: Which is the bigger threat -- inflation or deflation?), not to mention gold (to the amusement of such Keynesian soundbites recorded for posterity as the following: "Maybe it will reach $1,100 or so but $1,500 or $2,000 is nonsense"), and especially inflation (perhaps the only thing that will prompt a chuckle out of Gadaffi and Mubarak these days is someone telling them that their multi-decade reigns are over due to hyperdeflation and plunging food prices), was caught on tape voicing his endorsement of the only sane person who can possibly do something for this country. "In this election if Ron Paul gets anywhere near the nomination I would certainly support him. He is the only one that I've seen in American politics that seems to have a clue about what's going on." Zero Hedge agrees on all counts.
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Thanks MsC (and Janus),
Coming from a long-time fellow zherohead, that means a lot. Seriously, how could you NOT like an anarcho-libertarian-homosexual who's a good poster (emphasis on posting since that's how anyone should be judged)? That's a rare breed and just another thing that makes ZeroHedge the greatest experience on the internets.
Electron Paul...a quantum leap?
Excitement.
Aether you love him or you hate him.
b ut if ton paul is elected .. he will take the candy away, life is not fair ,
i want war, troops in 950 bases across the world to make my sorry ass safe .
whats freedom got to do with any thing . i want my hard hat to wear as i ride a horse .
and remember the kiddies .. they will be harmed in so many ways ,
a vote for ron Paul is a vote for honesty. we will not approve of that ,
lies and favors are a way of life ,
Yes indeedy, my neo-con friend. I share your great fear for those fragile liberties we hold dear. We need more prisons run by private corporations, hiring American guards and consuming American products like stun guns and waterboards. I also fear for the private security firms deployed around the world, supported covertly like Blackwater. They're great Americans furthering the cause of freedom
Being from Europe, the socialist hellhole of the world, I really really sincerely hope that Ron Paul will become the next US president. Some DE LLC might see a CFO moving to closer proximity.
The great thing about Ron Paul is that he has all the right enemies. He is hated by communists, socialists, marxists, maoists, national socialists, neocons, Clintons, Obamas, Bushes, war mongers, facists, black racists, white racists, kenesians, to big to fail bankers, most of congress, and Rudolph Guliani. He is loved by people who want to save America.
RON PAUL BITCHEZ!!!
The coolest/strangest thing about a Ron Paul rally is the diversity- young and old, black and white and Asian and Hispanic, Jew and Christian and Muslim and Atheist, gay and straight, hippie and yuppie and veteran- all getting along, interacting and bonding over their shared love of liberty.
It's an amazing, uplifting thing to see.
"The coolest/strangest thing about a Ron Paul rally is the diversity- young and old, ..."
Do you see the common denominator?
(It's spelled: "Unbelievable naivety")
So you believe that diverse crowds coming together to support a larger ideal is naive? I guess you prefer the young vs old, black vs white, gay vs straight, etc. identity politics of the ruling elite.
You are either strange, a tool, a fool, a moron, or a shit stirring asshole. I'm going with the latter.
BTW, it "naïveté" not naivity you wanker.
He may have been thinking of nativity, while ruminating about his god (The Bernank) tucked snugly in his Jackson Hole beddyby.
Dick Fitz Sat, 08/27/2011 - 14:27
So you believe that diverse crowds coming together to support a larger ideal is naive?
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Myopic; you don't see what's taking place at all, do you?
Ron Paul represents the same 'blank canvas' that Obama did, wherein one can paint his or her cause on it ... like DRUG LEGALIZATION which brings a LARGE part of the naive crowd I alluded to ...
Myopic ...
we need a pro-LEO Republican Evangelical!
we need austerity cuts!
then we can get this show on the road BABY!
Fuck You Piggie!! But I hope You get your fucking way! I wuld pay good money to see you over run by a flash mob you nazi fuck!
handcuff and shoot anyone in the back lately coward?
He is either a flamer, or somone hired to try to influence social media, likely airforce.
Yes, the timid masses who cower before the almighty power of a monolithic government do use platitudes like that to lift their spirits even as their chains are tightened.
To be ridiculed by a serf is actually a compliment.
Naivete can be fixed. Stupidity cannot. Too bad for you:)
In 2008 Ron was endorsed by both Barry Goldwater, Jr. and Arlo Guthrie. Amazing.
When someone like Arlo G.- who probably thought he would shoot himself in the head before voting Republican- explicitly endorses one, you know TPTB have got to be scared.
I don't see how anyone on ZH, the vast majority of whom recognize the rot at the center of our political and economic system, could not endorse RP. He's not perfect, and has positions that I disagree with, but overall he is the best chance for radically altering the status quo and restoring sanity to the country. He won't give in to the banksters and big corps, will end the wars, and will restore civil liberties- that's enough for me!
I hear ya. While I disagree with Ron on a few points as well I do appreciate the fact that he doesn't want to shove those ideas down my throat.
+ 1 to each of the above two.
Ron Paul is our best hope.
Gawd ... really, how child-like and oh-so INNOCENT (yet another synonym for naive ...)
Drop the jaded teen act already.
Non-sequitur (does not follow).
Incongruous comment; does not fit with the previous comment(s) ...
Recommended corrective action: Try again ...
Of course it follows. You're just too much of a petulant child to understand that you're a petulant child. Get it?
yeah, i remember a place like that from deep within the nostalgic corners of my mind, they called it america; and, brother, she was one hell of a place....misty watercolored memories, of the way we were (thought the lyric may have a special appeal for ya, fitzy).
Yep.
You know you have something when MSLSD AND Faux News both hate him...
".....and Adolph Guliani!"
There. Fixed it.
Marty Rothbard Sat, 08/27/2011 - 13:45
The great thing about Ron Paul is that he has all the right enemies. He is hated loved by communists, socialists, marxists, maoists, national socialists, neocons, Clintons, Obamas, Bushes, war mongers, facists, black racists, white racists, kenesians, to big to fail bankers, most some of congress
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There, fixed it for ya ...
(Most of those you listed above, w/corrections now, are the young and oh-so 'naive' I'm say follow poor, pitied, 'Loony' 'uncle' Ron Paul ... )
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If you love him so, then why do you keep bitching about him?
Maybe you can be known by your enemies, too! Excellent point.
logic and my spidey sense tell me that we will most likely have hyperinflation particularly if preceded by an acute form of deflation, the ongoing deflation in housing notwithstanding. the deflation i'm thinking of is of course the popping of the debt bubble previously forestalled. many of the bank bonds (which make up most corporates), along with agencies and sovereigns must be marked down from fantasy to market-based reality. so first the haircut, then we overpay the barber.
After reading some of Roubini's recent tweets I can come to the conclusion that he is one of the most immature water boys for the establishment that has ever existed in the soon to be extinct pseudo science of Keynesian Voodoo economics. His hatred of gold in the face of currency dilution globally proves he is either incompetent or complicit in attempts to garner some .GOV position or perhaps replace Bernanke as the next money printer.
What more would you expect from a clone of the white tip shoes club who has never had to create anything of value, owned a small business and was a mentor to Jeff Sachs. These parasites make their living off the continued thieving of the populations of the globe, are stamped "experts" on the economy yet spend their nights clubbing in the Meat Packing District or hanging in the Hampton's amongst the other folks who siphon of the production of others. Faber was right..all they know how to do is print and their false stamp of approval is somehow supposed to assauge the concerns of the peasantry who work for a living.
Yes Nouriel...How wonderful it would all be if we could carry around a mini money printer in our pockets everytime we got ourselves into trouble by not investing based on fundamentals but on how much we could get away with being socialized on the serfs. All of our problems would indeed be solved. This clown was tweeting, "Gold bugs are going to have a hard time in the hurricane carrying around their gold bars in exchange for food".
Well I am loaded with foodstuffs, water and beer right over in the West Village Nouriel so if at anytime you want to mosey down from Stern if you are feeling hungry and exchange a bar or a coin of gold or silver for food I will gladly accept with a 30% premium and you can keep your paper that only retains value so long as this government is in place for however many months, decades or centuries that will last but I assure you that same gold coin will still have value at that future date.
+10. I had the same thoughts.
Wow. You weren't kidding. He is a fucking baby. And he just sounds crazy.
These made me laugh the most.
-If they find 1 made of gold all the gold bugs will relocate there @Reuters:Astronomers discover planet made of diamondhttp://reut.rs/qsVLpR25 Aug
-Like King Midas they will eat gold bars on the Gold planet @rsTripolina: @Nouriel @Reuters LOL, what will they eat? 25 Aug
Most profited from manipulated hyped bubble fed by cranks @GoldCore:minority unscrupulos dealersHe cries like a child. Calling people "Ignoramus". I suppose there is truth in the statement that "Once you can no longer defend your positions factually simply defend them the LOUDEST!!"
Amazed that people send their children to these 40k a year schools to hear indoctrination and not learning anything of substance about what made this nation great being the economic freedom we had which was unrivaled and clear proof that since deviating from that formula into the norm of central planning we have seen nothing but an erosion of our greatness.
wanker
rogers is a good man.
he advocates more control at the local level. getting them out of the crony club at dc.
just like paracrine signaling.
Lobby Whores at the local level are just less polished.
sooooooooooo.
Lobby Whores anywhere is and will always be the problem.
Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion in Fed’s Secret Loans
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-21/wall-street-aristocracy-got-1-2-trillion-in-fed-s-secret-loans.html
PLUS!!!
SEC Covering Up Wall Street Crimes?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-street-crimes-20110817
I volunteered in Ron Pauls election in 2008 and became a state delegate. But we hit a brick wall with the Rebublican establishment and didn't get one Ron Paul delegate elected as a national delegate. They were hand picked by the GOP! I feel he would be good as president, but the medicine he would presribe to heal this country. Would be too painful for most. He would end up like JFK or a one term president like hopefully Barack Bin Ladin.
My guess is, if you finish a term (or do a second one), you weren't serving the people.
Yeah and you are not the only person who got elected state delegate and then fucking screwed at the state conventions (Congrats to you my anti gov friend you are a patriot)
Neveda closed the convention down when they realized Ron Paul would sweep the national convention delegates, Minnesota same thing.Other states colorado etc etc etc.
I worked with people in Hawaii and they got to the state convention with votes and there were armed thugs preventing them from voting.
This time the RP organization is much more experienced and better financed.
We dont win this time probably but have the good doctors son Rand in the wings for 2016.
GO RON PAUL!!!
As a former small cog in the Republican machine...and a Ron Paul supporter I have to tell you that the biggest problem was the consistent caustic nature of the RP supporters. It was like they were the high priests of the true political religion. Instead of trying to denounce and execute those with imperfect beliefs it is better to welcome those who are openminded and might come to your side. It takes quite awhile for someone to understand and grasp libertarian principles.
Having said that I will be donating money and time to his campaign.
1) where does mr rogers live? and why?
2) is he an american citizen?
3) where is he registered to vote?
4) how does he vote (absentee? fly in?)
maybe mr durden would also like to answer these questions abt himself, too. huh? tyler? simon black? doug casey? other "ex-pats" who are "too smart" to live and work here, or just really don't like it, so they moved o-u-t? where are you registered and how often have you voted in the last 20 years? as i recall, meg whitman decided to vote when she thought she could buy the goobernorship right along w/ the republicant nomination. well, at least the styooopid MEDIA WHORE voted!
should the "opinion in europe or africa" be used to "help" an american pol in the press?
what on earth would the canadians think if we elected someone other than prez0 or r.puppet.paul.con? and, who fuking cares?
i agree that he isn't a bad candidate, maybe even a good one (like prez0?), but i don't agree that he is the best candidididdlydate who will throw a hat in.
because, he really isn't!
I vouch for Tyler.
as for the rest? I know Jim has small children.. two lil girls.. he wanted them growing up and speaking Chinese.. he considered language the greatest gift he could provide to his children.
I dont understand why? given how stretched out China is?? 1,200%+++ Leverage on every Renminbi Printed before the ink is dry as well as the phoney GDP Pump of building 6 to 10 empty Cities a year??
but it takes all kinds!
hey, jay-dub! i'll vouch for tyler too, most all of the time, and as a publisher, i guess he he can write anything that seems like a good idea, at the time
but, he didn't answer me, did he? so, unless and until he wants to say whether he has the US voting franchise, or not, i'll give his "opinion of what is best for the USA" the same regard i would give to utterances of, say, the very highly repsected christine lagarde, or perhaps some german editorial writer. or moQadaffy. i wonder who he likes, here? but, sure, tyler's entiltled to his "opinion" even when the interests of the USA might not co-incide with the interests of his wunnerful, wunnerful website!
i stopped buying r.paul's bullshit during the "balanced budget amendement" response to the "budget ceiling" issue(s) in real time as we worked our way to the REAL deadline (not any of tyler's "OMG" ones). and, when he failed to lead to stop deficit spending now. you may have seen a coupla my posts calling the hack out, here, but i'll tell ya something, my pirate friend: i'll bet that thousands of r.paul "supporters" read those post of mine calling him out for his "false dichotomy" and failure to do anything to HELP the nation during those days, or even try to, by "stepping out of line" and leading!
oh, i got a ton of "junks" and "bad grades from the other bloggers" but you know how many of r.paul's supporters engaged me in debate over what i was seeing about him and how i didn't like it at all? yep: zero!
then i did a coupla more blogs about his bill to just declare 1.6 Tril$ of T debt void b/c "we owe it to ourselves", but same result: zero of his supporters would do anything by junk me!
then, i reponded to a pro-paul post positively b/c he has said stuff about the way things are done, and i did acknowledge that, but when i asked the blogger how "the 1,6 Tril$ bill was doing in congress" no reply and a few more junks!
now, no doubt the people just love balloons and bands and parades, and dr. paul, too!
and yeah, i thought mr rogers lived in china, for all the best reasons, i'm sure. and maybe he votes in connecticut or something. i don't know. i was just asking if anyone else did. doesn't look like it.
are you saying that you know tyler can vote in US elections or that you "vouch for him" no matter where tf he votes?
i wonder how long has mr rogers been in china, now, so that his "children could learn chinese"?
were you here a coupla weeks ago when "sunday tyler" put up a story about some state official in the midwest somewhere (i'm thinking a controller in indiana maybe ~?) and then his "campaign idea" that fuking timmah should be impeached,...and zeroHedge officially came out in supprort of this fuktard's candidacy(!)? and almost all the bloggers just went into why didn't we have more candidates like this? what the hell has happened to america? almost all the bloggers, right?
same shit, different day?
or is this a "responsible publishing decision" by the new owners of zeroHedge?
I am not Tyler.. so I cant speak for the man..
1st.. I have had my concerns with Tyler..
BUT!! he has always been fair.. while trying to run a business.. and this blog is his bread an butter.. sooooooooo..
being mindful that Tyler has to be able to eat.. like the rest of us..
I try to look at what he does or what actions he takes from a Business Perspective.
This Blog is NOT! a social issue STRICTLY for Tyler.
This Blog has Shielded JP Morgan thru slamming Goldman..
This Blog has pushed Gold and / or silver..
This Blog has a business model that is flexible enough for new advertisers come in.
Tyler can help only to the poit of fucking up his pay check.
ONCE AGAIN! TYLER has to be able to eat! like the rest of us..
and Tyler does give us a LOT of room to get our thoughts across..
Much Luv Slewie!
the question i put to YOU jay-dub, was whether you recalled what "sunday tyler" did a coupla weeks ago, viv-a-vis THAT "political endorsement"? are you implying that he got PAID to endorse the fuktard? sounds like it, almost.
if you continue to blow smoke, you will get a reputaion as a troll, here, dude
i just wondered if you remembered wtf tyler did there, is all. question too tuff for ya?
I dont know what post exactly you are reffering to.. given I do NOT have a reference point to begin from I am stuck on stupid.
you would like to provide a link.. I would be happy to review.
Lastly, dont take my kindness for weakness.
listen you shithead!
a simple "no, i don't recall" woulda sufficed, like two days ago!
you're not weak, just extremely fuking dense, jay-dub. and yes, people notice, even those who feel a compulsion to "junk" those who don't care for r.paul.con
if id' wanted to dig out the link so you could "review" it, i fuking woulda, doncha think, asswipe?
read wtf i said was in the piece. you think i'm fuking lying about what happened, there, it's because your mother is a stinkin whore
link that, BiCh!
T. D. seems to honestly convey his thoughts. Everything else is of secondary importance.
BofA, GS and MS reports on Apple post Steve
http://capital3x.com/?p=375
Full reports:
http://capital3x.com/?p=365
1. I dont need a report to tell what I already know.
2. Since when would anyone trust a market making brand name whe it comes to them pushing a stock?
3. see number on and 2 and repeat as many times as needed until you wake the fuck up.
http://www.therightscoop.com/jeffrey-lord-on-mark-levin-show-ron-paul-is-a-neo-liberal-not-a-conservative/
huck,
http://www.therightscoop.com/jeffrey-lord-on-mark-levin-show-ron-paul-is-a-neo-liberal-not-a-conservative/
Liberal as in Libertarian, I can live with that.
The Fascist shit has to go.
Levin is right up there with O'reilly and the rest of the Faux News dummies (2 exceptions). Permanent war for permanent peace. The only difference between The History Channel and Faux News is that THC covers wars that have happened while Faux News covers wars they want to happen.
The Right Scoop
Whenever Mark Levin calls Ron Paul, Rue Paul, I grieve for the conservative cause. Mr. Levin, you don't understand how you have motivated those of us who value honesty and integrity to only vote for him--even to write in RP--so we have clean consciences. I will not vote for the least-worst candidate, because of the arrogance you display and that is so prevalent in other "conservative" talk show hosts.
Ron's the real deal.
Signed, another delegate on the ballot--and former CEO and Chaiperson of a Chicago-based investment bank.... Probably on some black lists now.
Love America, but she's in the hands of crooks now. And one last thing... Levin agrees with the Guilianni comment that Paul suggest that America is to blame for terrorism (the blow-back concept). What a crock? That's like saying I'm criticizing America for creating the Federal Reserve or bombing Iraq while Clinton was jizzing on Monica's dress! That's like saying I'm criticizing America for deriding Roosevelt's (or Obama's for that matter) executive orders! FAIL. FAIL. FAIL . This country is deeply F'd. Second passport and citizenship time. Who is John Galt and where's he going?
Ron's the real deal.
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Ronald Reagan, yes.
Ron Paul, not so nuch ...
fox news called and they need their comatose audience back, so we'll be seeing ya.
Thank God for he first amendment, although I disagree with you.
Hey Ron you'd look good in a bow tie....
Never really trusted Rodgers - there is something wrong with the projection of his personality - I can't quite put my finger on it - but whenever he opens his mouth I always question my Gold position.
The guy is a financial Baracuda - its not always wise to get into the water with such strange fish.
anybody who partners up with soros needs be re-examined
I agree Dork of Cork. The fact that he partnered with George Soros has always concerned me. It means that he has the ability to rationalize evil. He is likable enough but to compare him to Bob Chapman in terms of honesty and truthfullness is going a bit too far. I would not trust Jim Rogers in the foxhole with me. That is for sure. Tuco
Someone's talking about a Bank Holiday on Monday
The NYSE of course can can continue trading electronically through its Archipelago electronic trading system. But the floor is 25 percent of the volume. There will be very few "human" traders around to begin with. What will we have — 100 percent high-frequency trading on Monday? If the storm is as bad as some feared, SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro should consider delaying or not trading at all Monday.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44291290
It is a bank Holiday in the UK on Monday !
with all the flooding the markets will be closed for a week or two or three.. or 10.. until the markets stop crashing downward!
its the weather!
NOT! the economy! LOL
I like listening to the Jim Rogers and Bob Chapman interviews. Reminds you that there are still some good people out there that are willing to tell the truth (unlike some BAC-POTUS teet sucking grays we can think of).
You may want to get that bullshit detector serviced.
I see you are putting out the maximum signal to help him calibrate his.
Clever; touché.
=D
Awww, cute volley guys.
See, my two often ruthless pals? There's hope for us yet.
although jim rogers has so far been on the money regarding debt, printing and commodities, he strangely doesnt see it leading to the end of the euro, dollar, eu, or the fiat system. he is bullish gold, but not nearly to the extent of other gold bull experts we follow. he doesnt advocate physical holdings either, as he views pms as nothing more than commodities. he views the comex shortage as an unfounded rumor, and puts no stock in it. maybe we are overreacting regarding the consequences of the gloabal debt crisis and fiat weakness/pm strength? food for thought....
Look's like Buffets' Moody's is already working it !
According to Moody's economist Ryan Sweet."If damage is severe and disrupts production for several days, there will be a noticeable impact on the national economy for August," says Sweet.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44292442
t's only a matter of time before savers and preppers are accused of disrupting the economy. 'Unpatriotic' or worse 'terrorists'...
Hoarders.
ron paul bitchez
I am with Ron and Jim..... fuck you all who are not.
They're fucking themselves in full public view. It's all rather distasteful if you ask me.
There is only one thing that will cure the poor economic conditions in the US but neither party is willing to embrace it. Time.
Whoops!
Mick Jagger for President -- time is on his side!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ErUrFu9xk&feature=related
keith has been recommending pms for years
rolling stones - you got the silver
Cool. Makes me very...
Happy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSyNUAzPofI
"I Am An Ex-Sick-O And I Support Ron Paul"
Just to see him get to the white house and see him do all same old tricks as GWB and BHO.
Wake up and smell yourself.
Go and give him 'a head'
amazed, kaput, befuddled am I
truly curious...
someone explain to me(and others milling this over).............why so many educated, savvy people posting on here believe, fervently if i may, that this 75yr old man is gonna go into TOTUS(as in Tool of.....)......and make all this change?.......oh my god, what the FLOCK am i missing?.....please! ......por favor??!!........so this guy gets elected.....and you true believers think that the spectacle is gonna allow this guy to suck the $cheddar$ out of their pockets because the "people spoke" and wanted change this new guy he's great CONSTITUTION! gold bug he's a Doctor fiscal respongability. this endorsement coming from some of yous that spew about how its all corrupt and rigged and diebold whatnotfoolery. which is it? regardless, is it *possible* for someone to explain how; after whats coming down between now and election time(lets call it the -swan defecation propensity component-).....let alone the actual way "politics" are/have been ran since....a long fucking time ago......that hero jr. is gonna do that almighty great asshat cliche phrase and "TURN THIS COUNTRY AROUND"?
pardon the sarcasm, contempt and disrespect...at least slightly....but, to me, its like there's this running inside joke where people are "rooting" for RP and i keep waiting for the punch, sayin' "HAW DUDE, YOU THOUGHT WE BELIEVED IN UNICORNS aAND CHUPACABRA TOO, RIGHT!"
Go buy some bank stock.
If you think there will be no difference with RonPaul in office, you are dumber than a rock. If you think he won't be able to completely clean up the mess, well, neither do we. But it would be rather enjoyable to watch thousands of billionaire suits filling federal prisons. Also, you need to consider the imponderables, including "getting the pendulum swinging the other way", and how that might (just might) snowball. And if the predators-that-be and banksters pull a kennedy on him, that will be enough to start the second revolutionary war, which is badly needed.
Dream on. Once a huckster, always a huckster.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070303215027/http://www.house.gov/paul/cong...
If Diogenes is ever seeking an apprentice don't bother applying.
If you ever want to change politics in the US, find someone who can actually win (and has half a brain when it comes to campaign finance reform).
Ron Paul has made a really good living off of the money of rubes like you.
So you tell us all who would do better as president. I mean someone who might have more than 0.001% chance of getting elected. Come on, tell us which status-quo statist you support.
None...that's the problem with a lack of campaign finance reform.
No, the problem is those little tags on mattresses that say "Do not remove under penalty of law."
An artifact of lawyers who donate to campaigns to insure their racket continues; thanks for proving my point.
So...what will Ron Paul do to change the tags on the mattresses as president?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAaoHX9KiWY
Very Thoreau in a completely private, pathetic kind of way.
"I know you are but what am I?" -- Henry David Thoreau
"I know you are but what am I? Infinity!" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Hmmm...tax resister in prison vs "nature boy".
@ snowball/_go_cal!
"If you ever want to change politics in the US, find someone who can actually win"
paul supporters want to see if they can make him win, which is admirable, and the correct approach, i would think, as contrasted w/ yours; if some people are getting a fire in the gut, politically, here, i that is fine w/ me! i just don't think he's the best guy or person here, that's all, and i've already written why around the 8.2.11 "ceiling" hoe-down, as we were going thru it, here
my guy was on the ballot in 50 states last time; maybe he'll run again, who knows?
Right arm! Farm out! That's telling the damn fool.
Honestann, I've read many of your comments. You
are always soooo on the mark. Did you finally settle
in a good place to live?
Crevass- I guess you were educated in a gubmint school, because I couldn't make heads nor tails of your post, but I think the gist is that you think RP is going to give up 30 years of saying the same thing- end the wars, restore civil liberty, stabilize the dollar- and turn into a bankster tool as soon as he is inaugurated?
Slow down there pardner, Polly Annas like you are giving us doomsayers a bad name. RP would make a huge difference, especially if he got elected along with a congress of constitutionalists to back him up who were willing to throw the bums out. I think we passed over peak socialism in 2010.
Slow down there pardner, Polly Annas like you are giving us doomsayers a bad name. RP would make a huge difference, especially if he got elected along with a congress of constitutionalists to back him up who were willing to throw the bums out. I think we passed over peak socialism in 2010.
English majors should stfu and stay with writing books no one will ever read.
Poor old establishment sod, wake up! Or find a tar pit to fall into.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoqY6CpgpSE
creviceCaress Sat, 08/27/2011 - 15:51
amazed, kaput, befuddled am I
truly curious...
someone explain to me(and others milling this over).............
why so many educated, savvy people posting on here believe, fervently if i may, that this 75yr old man is gonna go into TOTUS(as in Tool of.....)......
and make all this change?.......
oh my god, what the FLOCK am i missing?.....
please! ......
por favor??!!
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Roger.
Same questions here.
Over ...
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Uhhh, maybe his 30 year track record of practicing what he preaches, to such an extent that he was labelled as "Dr. No" by members of his own party? Perhaps the fact that 99% of the time that there is a single dissenting vote to any legislation, it is his vote? Perhaps the fact that he voted against honoring national heroes with taxdollars, and instead offered to pay for the honor out of his own pocket?
Or perhaps its the fact that he saw all this coming ten damn years ago but idiots like yourself wouldn't listen? And still won't, apparently. You'd rather slander him and fight his righteous movement for freedom with every breath in your body, so totally enslaved are you to your masters.
Disgusting.
<-- I like you as a poster
<-- I like your ideas
And yet, RR (Ronald Reagan) MADE IT HAPPEN.
Paul has not.
NO executive experience, and, from what I have seen, _no_ growth in job experience (congress critter for HOW long now?)
One could say he has failed, stagnated, shown no 'growth' as he has put on the years legislatively speaking.
Why hasn't he made any progress until now?
RR had made PLENTY of progress by this point ...
Ronald Reagan didn't do ANYTHING except for accelerate the destruction of this country. He ABANDONED his conservative/libertarian principles, and spent like a drunken sailor to buy votes. He rode the Goldwater revolution, and then betrayed them, but they still love him for it. It's bullshit.
To be honest, I hope that the is a Hell, so he and people like him can burn there.
Why hasn't Ron Paul made any progress? What do you call all this? Five years ago he had a following of a few hundred die hard followers. Today MILLIONS like him, and are ready to vote for him.
He gave us the health plan I use today (the high deductible health savings account) and the mint bullion program (ie gold and silver eagles). He will likely be remembered as the most effective single congressman in history, IF he isn't elected to the presidency (in which case he will be remembered as the greatest president in 150 years). And this was with one man against 434! Imagine if we had had ten men with his conviction!
And wtf are you talking about no job experience? He took off from congress for a decade to work as an OBGYN. He had his own practice, IIRC.
Wrong ... the 'press' has been successful selling you lies ...
Whoever gets to be president in 2012, IT'S TO LATE! THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN! THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO NOW IS DELAY THE BIG ONE.
Even if the system crashes when Paul is President at least we won't have to fear the re-education camps being prepared by our own government.
I'm not afraid now. They will be run by government employees.
We'll be eating their dinner in less than 3 weeks.
With this dbag president, they will all be affirmative action hires. Maybe 10 days.
http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/...
Civilian Inmate Labor Program
S u m m a r y . T h i s r e g u l a t i o n p r o v i d e s
guidance for establishing and managing
civilian inmate labor programs on Army
installations. It provides guidance on establishing
prison camps on Army installat
i o n s . I t a d d r e s s e s r e c o r d k e e p i n g a n d
reporting incidents related to the Civilian
Inmate Labor Program
http://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/pdf/R210_35.PDF
See what I mean?
Might as well guard me with someone from the motor pool who suffers from narcolepsy.
Bring it.
Life might get exciting again...for a few weeks....maybe.
Gold as either circulated money or backing for money (with economies needing to increase supply over time in order to expand, with little ability to do so), or just another asset (as bernanke contends) to hedge fake money - means there will simply be periodic corrections in the march to infinity.
WTF?
Is ZH under attack?
I do not trust creationists with my future, even as limited it may be. The disconnect with creationists using a computer or car is the hypocrisy of the day. His hope for world collapse speaks volumes. There is vast a difference between predicting and wishing. But it sells well with zeros.
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This atheist is donating to and voting for Ron Paul. I don't care if Ron Paul believes that liberty is a gift from God rather than an expression of natural law. What's important is that Ron Paul believes that I should have the liberty to decide such things for myself. He also says that I should be free to chose my own food, light bulbs, school, medical care, retirement program and currency. Bully for him!
No, he believes that your state government should.
Better to be a big fish in a little pond than a little fish in a big pond.
Still a fish. Still in a pond.
Please do go on.
So what, you want to be an anarchist now?
If so, welcome, brother.
I know too many irrational people to believe that anarchy is feasible outside the petri dish. I agree with libertarians on many of their complaints with government (e.g. the "war on drugs", the MIC, and civil liberties),
but have problems with much of their prescribed economic medicine and boundless faith in the ability of markets to solve every problem on earth.
Succinctly, I know too much 19th century history to romanticize or desire to repeat it.
You guys have been fun to follow, don't want to step in it at fight club but...
Snowball, what about the idea that you let each state set their own rules, then go live in the state that matches your internal makeup best. Each state is kind of like a running social experiment. Successful ones would get imitated, unsuccessful ones would be free to fail and restructure. You are not dependent on one size fits all, hegemonic, centralized systems that come up with TBTF and so forth. Centralized systems fail because they have generalized rules that don't match local realities. They lack redundancy. They do not mimic nature. Local people could set the local standards, instead. If you want the right to have an abortion, live in an abortion state. Marijuana state, ditto. Liquor free state? Ditto. Instead of depending on the Feds, you are prepped as you see fit to take care of your own. We should all do that any way on an individual, local, and state level.
I am not sold on Ron Paul, at all. I do know for a fact we will have to become more localized in how we do business and governance. Energy dictates it. Catching fish in the US, shipping it to China to process, and shipping it back to the US to sell, is unsustainable. I am happy to pay more for fish that is local, processed by my neighbors. I can't help but be open to the ideas I hear from RP. But no, I am not sold, but open.
I actually think it is too late and the best we can do is cushion the fall. These morons in charge are running us off the cliff at maximum speed, instead. The fall is going to be a bitch.
Explain how life sprung into existence, able to reproduce, feed itself and grow in an environment devoid of any bio available fertilizer, and we can talk.
Seems the faith that is required is mostly in your camp.
Doubt me? Put scientists in a sterile lab with no dna, and have them create life. I'll wait.
Go to your sterile lab and see if you can cause an eternal, omnipotent being to spring into existence.
Don't you believe in science?
Create life or stfu.
I'm getting really sick of arrogant assholes on a minor planet, way the fuck out on a minor spriral arm who think they know the secrets of the universe.
God might forgive you such arrrogance, I won't.
I don't know the secrets of the universe. I don't know where matter and energy came from. But I'm not going to pretend that they were wished into existence by an invisible man who flies in the sky forever.
I can respect the beliefs of others but if one wishes to debate such matters I will debate them and if one wishes to have a pissing match over them I'll be more than happy to whip it out.
I'll just leave this here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870355900457525647015234198...
I love how you call people seeking systematic answers to how the world works "arrogant", while simultaneously answering every question for which you don't know the answer with "God did it".
ya know, t.moZe, i'm re-reading this, and i see where the rodent_freik said "god might forgive..." but i fail to see where he tried to answer his own unknowing in the face of the mysteries of the universe with "god did it", here. just sayin
The pi-rat slows down and tries to hear what is being said, assumes little. I like how he(?) tries to be fair. All of us gloss and jump to conclusions at times. I can stay with it if I think the person is making a good faith effort. I am less patient if I think it is manipulation. The pi-rat reminds me to slow down too. Thanks.
Go to your sterile lab and see if you can cause an eternal, omnipotent being to spring into existence.
Lord knows I've tried to do that.
Okay, but we will require the RNA precursors (readily available throughout the cosmos), some amino acids, and several billion years.
Actually people tend to base their predictions on what they would like to occur.
I see. So the fact that I predict that I will die at some point in the future makes me suicidal?
People who see a tidal wave coming in, and turn to run want the tidal wave to kill them?
Sometimes we base our predictions on things that we see happening, and interpret what will happen from there based on past experience, both personal and that which has been related to us (ie history).
Please look up the definition of "tend" which is short for tendency.
If you didn't put anything out here, we might just wonder if you were an idiot, but thanks for making it crystal clear that you are a huge fucking idiot,
Absolutely correct. Never value Gold or Silver for that matter in FRNs. The FRN died, its just been put on life support while they finnish off any value it has left. I like gold, but prefer silver. In Biblical times, Judas bought a farm for 30-36 pieces of silver. Not bad by my reckoning. A slave's life could also be bought for 36 pieces of silver. With all my silver, I think I'll buy a farm, then Bernanke and Krugman to work it for me. Have a nice day!
Foolish. They've never done real work in their lives. All they know how to do is print.
judas "bought a farm" for 30 "pieces of silver"!
i like that! grekko-roamin theology!