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Israel To Keep US In The Dark Before Launching Pre-emptive Iran Attack
It had been a quiet week in terms of geopolitical developments out of Middle East. Too quiet, well aside for that whole US escalating once again bit, and forcing Iran to eventually go over the edge. And while the role of the US and Iran has been extensively digested in the past few weeks, it is Iran that has remained in the shadows recently. No longer: as Al Arabiya reports, "Israeli officials say they won’t warn the U.S. if they decide to launch a pre-emptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, according to one U.S. intelligence official familiar with the discussions. The pronouncement, delivered in a series of private, top-level conversations, sets a tense tone ahead of meetings in the coming days at the White House and Capitol Hill. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak delivered the message to a series of top-level U.S. visitors to the country, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the White House national security adviser and the director of national intelligence, and top U.S. lawmakers, all trying to close the trust gap between Israel and the U.S. over how to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions, according to The Associated Press." Needless to say, the thoroughly effete and comical US foreign policy has no response to follow up queries: "The White House did not respond to requests for comment, and the Pentagon and Office of Director of National Intelligence declined to comment, as did the Israeli Embassy." And while there may be no comments here, look for more warnings about Israeli citizens being targetted by deranged Iranian around the world. Because when all else fails, fearmonger. Next up: the Status Quo will be telling the world how not attacking Iran would be tantamount to global destruction. The only trade off - will the spike in crude to $150 outdo the surge in Obama's popularity rating as the Nobel Peace Prize winner puts his name in the hat for a nomination in the Nobel War Prize category as well.
More from Al Arabia, about how Iraq continues to be the case study for an Iranian invasion from Israel's perspective:
Netanyahu was asked about Begin’s decision to destroy an Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981, according to AFP.
The successful attack is often referred to by Israeli analysts when speculating about the possibility of an Israeli military operation against nuclear installations in Iran.
When asked if he had studied how Begin reached the decision to strike Iraq, Netanyahu insisted that each case is different.
“Each decision is a separate decision,” he said.
Netanyahu had said on Sunday that Iran’s controversial nuclear program, which Western powers believe is aimed at developing an atom bomb, would be the main topic in his discussions at the White House with President Barack Obama on March 5.
In the meantime, the US continues to lose ground to Israel when it comes to foreign interests:
The behind-the-scenes warning belies the publicly united front the two sides have attempted to craft with the shuttle diplomacy to each other’s capitals.
“It’s unprecedented outreach to Israel to make sure we are working together to develop the plan to deter Iran from developing a nuclear weapon,” and to keep them from exporting terrorism, said Maryland Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
He traveled there with the Intelligence Committee chairman, Rep. Mike Rogers, a Michigan Republican, to meet Israel’s prime minister and defense minister, along with other officials.
“We talked about the fact that sanctions are working and they are going to get a lot more aggressive,” Ruppersberger added, according to AP.
They also talked about presenting a unified front to Iran, to counter the media reports that the two countries are at odds over how and when to attack Iran.
“We have to learn from North Korea. All those (peace) talks and stalling and they developed a nuclear weapon,” he said. “We are going to send a message, enough is enough, the stalling is over. ... All options are on the table.”
“I got the sense that Israel is incredibly serious about a strike on their nuclear weapons program,” Rogers told CNN on Monday. “It’s their calculus that the administration ... is not serious about a real military consequence to Iran moving forward.”
“They believe they’re going to have to make a decision on their own, given the current posture of the United States,” he added.
Somehow we have a feeling that the so far peaceful war, that of words, is about to be enjoined by those "others" who have a stake in the conflict: Russia and China. And when that happens, go long Crude. Because the market has now entered the mania phase, where nothing short of a Lehman type failure can precipitate a massive deflationary collapse.
Which, incidentally, is precisely what will happen if and when WTI passes record highs in a few months.
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If the USA somehow does manage to lose WW 3, the Jews are there to be blamed...
"Without America onboard"???
Who says America's not on board? Israel?
"By deception, thou shall do war"
Like so much in the world today, who cares?
Do we really need to live breathlessly, minute by minute, waiting for the next greecian formula or israeli genocide? Will PIIGS fail? Will the LTRO be 500B or 1T? Will the US have a failed bond auction?
There are so many black dragons in the air, they are starting to block out the sun. It is the propaganda of fear on steroids.
Clearing the air is a reality- Stop playing. Tyrants require the people to carry out their plans and machinations. Tyrants cannot strike you unless you furnish the arms and feet. Tyrants cannot steal your wealth, unless you send it in. Tyrants cannot steal your liberty, unless you hand them the keys to your souls.
No form of government can stand without the approval of the people. Educate the people and you can minimize the government.
No form of government can stand without the approval of the people. Educate the people and you can minimize the government.
That might be true, but all they need is for a significant majority of the people to be fucking stupid and they'll stand just fine.
Take a look around you, watch some mainstream TV - are there enough fucking stupid people around to make sure that they will get away with it?
Some people in my office got into a deep discussion about the upcoming season of Dancing With The Stars. It was an in-depth, detailed conversation, to which I contributed nothing but silence.
Just for shites and giggles, I asked one in the group if they knew what was going on with Greece, the EU, or our economy in general, etc. Nothing but a srhug and blank stares.
We ignore history and the world around us at our one peril. Those who dont learn from history, etc. etc.
I compare it to the Poseidon Adventure--the sheeple are too busy laughing it up being all gluttonous until the shit hits the fan. Then, they will realize the world as they knew it is gone, but it will be too late. There wont be any more room to climb up the Christmas tree.
...Rosemary's Baby Antichrist Homosexual Military Health Care Cut http://freebeacon.com/trashing-tricare/ This and the Israeli blind side crucifiction, well, their should be a lot of retention do to the Suicide Vampire Squid of the Great Wal Mart of China economic reality and demand for new weak wristed suicidal masochists.
Do you know AnAnonymous?
Oh please, you know there are plenty of inquisitors, privateers and vigilantes of every possible political affiliation around here.
...Sophist, that's got to be dumber than me typing ''their'' instead of ''there''. Lol. "Do you know AnAnonymous'', uh, I'll just assume your offer indicates how stupid we are. Lol.
...as far as a ''threat'', everyone so inclined kicks there own ass because ...there is no choice. LMAo
If '' the Antichrist Homosexual Military'' offends you (if that is what is defining your lack of humor) and if two idiots (normal or homosexual) want to certify that they accept the government version of marriage and tax etc... great. I stopped working a long time ago and the beast is consuming it's self every day it divests the short term gain. I am actively destroying the lack of cause and foundation for all objections. Lol. I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me? LMAO. I am your enemy ...bitchez. Ah haa haa haaa ...eat me or fast for ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pceBcOGL7nI&feature=related
fkn brilliant clip, imma watch out for you.
Drum machine?
As i have posted here before (can't find it right now), the wheels and gloves start coming off when the banksters start looting the military pensions.
...yeah Magpie, the Generals and Privates are stupid and pathetic. A perfect example is; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AF-22_Raptor/Archive_4#Black-Out-Button any active General that has not resigned at this point or anyone re-enlisting to serve under the new world order of Rosemary's Baby.
What is the new (general) world order(s) image? Is it not, to serve Rosemary's Baby and protect the Suicide Vampire Squid of the Great Wal Mart of China sitting in a Raptor ...as the Bushpilot (<gay chic, lol, in case you do not get it) with her thumb on the blackout button ...some idiot human kept in the design? ROTF. Winning.
War is against our Father in Christ (all flesh), that is obvious to anyone, it does not matter if they disagree. LOL.
The lack of mercy, defined by the Antichrist ''homosexual mirror image'', which is still the result of a man and a woman defining their own claim of dominion, lacks cause for foundation in any case. ROTF Anonymous (<any person) claims are not possible, unless ''the dipshit'' is attempting to make a point of ''order'' out of nothing. LOL. SILENCE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvHM9e1EVVY That's the new world order. LOL. black hole ...bitchez.
That's just not obvious right? Lol..
Not even someone born gay or just a ''so inclined pervert'' would disagree, or could disagree. LMAO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg&ob=av2e
This world is marked by contempt. If you are born an asshole it's not because there is a choice. Lol, that does not mean people that do not accept their own image, or agree with it, are not overcome, it just means you love each other to death. Lol, or you take it personally. LMAO. Look out for that second death though, it's the true killer of ''your own image'' and the Suicide Vampire Squid of the Great Wal Mart of China.
Run out of meds again?
I think this will be for the better. Surprise us Israel!
Illusions Mr. Wordsworth, illusions!
Translation:
Although Panetta and "Company" didn't find or uncover new evidence that Iran is building nuke warheads (testified last week) Israel has ordered USA to fly first sortese.
This isn't wag the dog, it's a nessesary evil. Israel knows where davie jones locker is hidden so the marching orders have been handed down, cover story for the media to the masses has been delievered.
USA has plausable deniability "if something were just to.. happen" The USA wasn't involved, (at that moment) convienient cover against Russia retaliation or Chinese blow back, etc.
Total psyops so let the Patriot games begin. This is how they roll now.
Here is an interesting link: Study the picture closely.
http://aalankristschool.com/
Here is another one.
http://www.the-parenting-magazine.com/child-development/playing-individually-vs-playing-with-others/
Picture translation: Armageddon and We are NWO are the message in the blocks, you can figure the rest out for yourself. The little girl is pointing at the "G".
Don't watch the news, listen to it.
Just make sure you keep sending us military aid you filthy goyim.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html
If this was tactical information, instead of psiops bullshit, you wouldn't be getting press releases.
"Israeli officials say they won’t warn the U.S. if they decide to launch a pre-emptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, according to one U.S. intelligence official familiar with the discussions.
Well, duh! Why give Barry-The-Muzzie-Lover time to warn Achmedisajerk?
Can we give this spoiled ass little bitch of a step-child back to the UQ?
I like to use UQ instead of UK, because it is a United QUEENdom.
Give which back? The USA or Persia? So we can fuck the whole thing up again???
man-in-dress pwns queen.
Perfect.........now we can nuke Iran and blame Israel. lol.
Let the oil price spike...
I rode the bike again today.
Truck has an extended vacation...
I urge everyone to do the same...
Peddling past gas stations you get to wave at folks topping up their SUV's....
The Hummer owners get an extended wave........
All good......
Hey, Cliff bars aren't free, Pal. So back off!!!!!
So when we see a nuke cloud over Tehran we can say, "WHO DID THAT???"
Good night and good luck.
What puzzles me is the recent dovish stance by US officials. For years now they have been chomping at the bit to attack Iran. And just a couple of months ago their play book, Foreign Affairs, published that the time was right to attack Iran. Is it the calm before the storm. Sure feels like it.
They want to time it perfectly to help Obama in the next election. He has nothing to run on, in his record as president, so he needs to be a war time president.
The politicians want war. The military and intelligence community know that war with Iran won't be good for anyone and they do not want to be forced to take responsibility and fall on their swords as they did after Iraq became a fiasco.
if the "military and intelligence community" doesn't want to be "responsible" then they need to grow a spine and STAND UP to this blatant bullshit.
either they're on the payroll or they aren't.
All US intelligence agencies and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs have said that war with Iran is unnecessary and would be a mistake. Admiral Fallon resigned his position in order to protest Bush's desire to attack Iran. What more do you want?
I want them to go live with their beliefs.
I want to SEE what it is they VOLUNTEER to be paid for.
they're cashing the cheques, I want to SEE where they're going.
Because US officials KNOW if they go to war with Iran now, the world economy will melt down by next teusday.
There is no real recovery. There is $7 TRILLION of central bank liquidity. Oil goes to $150-$200, and the whole thing crashes. Then what?
Also those ridiclous budget projections that Obama is using, have "savings" for draw down in troops from Iraq and Afghanstian. So far the bond market has tolerated $1T deficits. Imagine if they doubled overnight.
Obama goes to war now, he is a one term president. The current adminstration knows that a war with Iran is almost the worst thing they could do right now.
A war with Iran is much bigger than his presidency. Plus he has absolutely nothing to say about it, anyway.
Zionists everywhere, unite!
What are you? A Power Ranger?
I wear tight underwear, do I qualify?
To psyche myself for the event, I watched "The Day After" this weekend, and have "Threads" coming shortly. Of course, "Threads" is based on a conflict in Iran.
"Threads" is much better than "The Day After". Wasn't "Threads" banned in the US originally?
"Threads" is grim.
It's the movie that led me to coin the term "kitty burning movie" about nuke war flicks.
US Gov, stop being Israel's bitch.
Tell them to fuck off and fight their own war.
Netanyahu is a twat, even Sarkozy thinks it, and that's from another twat!
Of course this is will be jumped on by some moron religious dick or American that thinks this a slur on American people. It isn't.
Technically speaking, US Gov is both the bitch of Israle AND Saudi Arabia -- as they too want Iran destroyed (as well as a change in government in Syria -- which I would like to see also, but for entirely different reasons).
they're all pricks.
'Europeans placed Obama in the white house in order to destroy its entrepreneurial and free spirit because Europe stinks so much'
That's a new one, as an Europeon I was slightly offended because I wasn't part of the selection process and missed out.
Then I saw your avatar and everything became clear.
captcha needs revision.
The only hope is that Israel attacks on their own and then be left to defend on their own.
Its not like they live in a friendly neighborhood.
All's fair in love and war, including the copious use of propaganda. Believe what you hear from the US and Israel at your own risk.
and when the bully starts to get their ass kicked, we better not help
This is a story that keeps coming back. Iran, Israel, Iran, Israel. Ten years from now, we will keep hearing these stories. Countries that really want to attack don't talk about it for ten years. When the Germans invaded Russia, no one saw it coming. When Saddam attacked Iran, no one saw it coming either. This is the total opposite.
War hawks in Washington may want to invade Iran and occupy it but they can't and they know it. Since you won't attack, what's the harm in talking constantly to scare the enemy?
As an authentic democrat, let me remind any Obama or Clintons fans out there --- it sure does seem like Cheney is still ruling the White House, now don't it????
Invasion is the only move in war, according to US citizens.
As long as you dont invade, you are not at war, you dont attack.
Actually, everyone saw it coming...except Stalin, in a state of fearful denial. Iran will be heavily attacked by Isramerica for good and sufficient reasons: potential nuclear threat plus saving the petrodollar. The Greater MidEast War will begin no later than July-August, with Obama hoping for regime change in Tehran before the US election. Global economic and military-political catastrophe is the more likely result; in either case, we'll soon know. On another issue, Chinese citizenist citizen practicing citizenship Chinese-style needs a chow mein snack-break: dogbits+rice+snot.
Smart Power (tm) in action.
Lord James of Blackheath $15,OOO,OOO,OOO,OOO FRAUD EXPOSED February 16 2012
Lord James of Blackheath, House of Lords February 16 2012
Breaking news Lord James of Blackheath has spoken in the House of Lords holding evidence of three transactions of 5 Trillion each and a transaction of 750,000 metric tonnes of gold and has called for an investigation.
I think there are three possible conclusions that may come from it. I think there may have been a massive piece of money laundering committed by a major government which ought to know better and that it has effectively undermined the integrity of the British bank the Royal Bank of Scotland, in doing so. The second alternative is that a major American department has an agency that has gone rogue on it because it has been wound up and has created a structure out of which they are seeking to get at least 50 billion Euros as a payoff. And the third possibility is that this is an extraordinarily elaborate fraud which has not been carried out but which has been prepared in order to provide a threat to one government or more if they don't pay them off. So there are three possibilities and this all needs a very urgent review.
My Lords, it starts in April and May of 2009, with the alleged transfer to the United Kingdom, to HSBC of a sum of 5 trillion dollars and seven days later, in comes another 5 trillion dollars to HSBC, and then 3 weeks later another 5 trillion. 5 trillion in each case. Sorry. A total of 15 trillion dollars is alleged to have been passed into the hands of HSBC for onward transit to the Royal Bank of Scotland and we need to look at where this came from and what the history of this money is. And I have been trying to sort out the sequence by which this money has been created and from where it has come from for a long time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL5hqvTWkYg&feature=player_embedded
MFG
it's all pixels on screens now, just a big ole computer game. . .
Somehow we have a feeling that the so far peaceful war, that of words, is about to be enjoined by those "others" who have a stake in the conflict: Russia and China
Here's the bottom line...
The "sheep" can't connect the dots that engaging Iran is not like going into Wisconsin (to borrow a line from "Stripes")... The American public has been numbed into the idea that operations like 'Desert Storm' or 'Iraqui Freedom' (or NATO operation in Libya) are where the US military (or NATO forces) face an army that's rather disorganized and has no other interests behind it (or in Afghanistan where nobody really knows who the enemy is in the first place)...
Basically... With regards to Iran, they can't connect the dots to China & Russia (&, of course, WW3)...
There are several scenarios which could occur with Iran...
1. Nukes start flying... HIGHLY DOUBTFUL so I'll leave it at that
2. Conventional war... But in this case, you're not going to end up fighting the Iranian army, you're going to be fighting against a continuous supply side from Russia & China... Therefore, it will be BLOODY & PROLONGED... The American public, despite their general lazy attitudes towards everything, will not be able to stand for REAL WAR REPORTING (as happened during Vietnam back in the 60's)... This past decades war (and going all the way back to 'Desert Storm' & after 9/11) has all been a propaganda front to coax the sheeps into buying back into the idea that "war is fine"...
As this turns back into yet another quagmire, patience will be lost QUICKLY... There will be too many holes in the dike for the MSM to be able to fill (no matter what their masters say)... When public opinion turns, ALL WILL BE LOST...
I'd expect it to turn into civil unrest IN THIS COUNTRY... Which would include backlashes against Jews (because most would start to feel that they were responsible for our involvement), plus, the usual unrest that would occur as the society were to fracture due to high energy costs and other things attached to another war that very few Americans really want in the first place...
Excellent comments, francis_sawyer (although one could never fathom a backlash agqainst American Jew, what with such fine upstanding citizens like Robert Ruben, Alan Greenspan, Arthur Levitt, Larry Summers, Lloyd Blankfein (or Lord Blankfiend, thanks to that commenter who mentioned his proper name!), Gary Gensler, Neal Wolin, etc., etc. etc.).
Seriously, not all Jewish-Americans are evil, but lately one could well imagine the majority believing such!
I would hasten to add, if Israel AND America both were involved in imperialistic aggression against Iran (and I would dearly love to see an end to the reign of the Mullahs), it is highly probable for an extremist backlash to occur in the northern African Arab countries, and Europe is such a short distance away from short-range missiles from that geographic location.
Israel, Kurdish fighters destroyed Iran nuclear facility, email released by WikiLeaks claims
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-kurdish-fighters-destroyed-iran-nuclear-facility-email-released-by-wikileaks-claims-1.415066
Wiki = psyops. I thought the initial embassy dump was pretty much on the mark, but now it's co-opted in the 5 sided puzzle factory in VA. No good info from there anymore. Can't trust any info from wiki anymore. read the Bin Laden info, it's bunk because I knew the truth 10 years ago.
i am going all in with this theory:
iran has, somehow, secured two nukes from pakistan. when israel strikes the sites, the nukes go off and the world thinks israel dropped them.
In other news, Iranian leaders are planning to transition from a petrol economy to a glass-based one. With one of the worlds largest sand reserves and a "conversion" process being supplied by Isreal, Iran stands to be the worlds largest supplier of raw glass.
Everybody Short GLASS!!!11one!
there has got to be a joke here somehow using the stratfor glossary....
How does a Kilowatt keep a Megawatt in the dark?
um.....um....I'll be working on it.
I seem to recall that Israel never mentioned their attack on the USS Liberty beforehand either?????
Peculiar, ain't it???
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=42e_1217271204
The latest news on the Liberty, the Navy spook ship attacked by Israel on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War, is that recently released National Security Agency documents are backing up what many -- including the survivors of Liberty -- have been saying for 40 years: that Israel knew full well that it was attacking -- with aerial strafing, napalm and torpedoes -- an American vessel.
http://www.uss-liberty.com/2011/01/24/israel-has-never-been-punished-for-their-crime-against-the-crew-of-the-uss-liberty/
http://michaelsantomauro.blogspot.com/2011/09/please-be-sure-and-read-all-this-so.html
Israel also neglected to inform its US puppet of the 2006 attack on Lebanon; Condi Rice was visiting Beirut at the time, and had to crawl into a bomb-shelter. She didn't seem too happy about it...but anything for the Jews.
Well, if they don't value our advice going in, I guess they won't value our help getting them out of the fix they put themselves into, and so I vote not to come to their aid if it gets 'sticky'. Because it will be impossible for America to define not only the mission, but the objective and exit strategy.
Israel = Rothschild
Yet another chapter in the zionist exodus melodrama. This chapter may well be the humdinger that ends very badly, this is all just a logical unfolding of events that began when the first Palestinain was killed by the first post-WWII zionist. A happy ending? I doubt it....
I am very supportive of Israel's positon...I think they understand this is a no win dilema...it's a choice between the lesser of two evils, and yes, there will be very serious consequences for their actions.
Israel should go ahead and use nuclear weapons on targets like Natanz. I'd expect that fission weapons would suffice, like the ones that the USA employed in Japan.
It is the only practical means of putting a stop to Iran's building of "cancer treatments" in hardened underground bunkers.
A nuclear attack on Iran is morally justified: because Iran is seeking nuclear weapons and is verbally threatening Israel, it is logically estopped from objecting to the use of such weapons against itself.
I certainly wouldn't be upset if they did.
Iran is perfectly entitled to construct nuclear energy facilities, and even nuclear weapons, which it has repeatedly stated it is not interested in pursuing. Besides, if the world can tolerate Israel with over 300 illegal and undeclared nuclear weapons, surely Iran is not an issue. Israel has proven time and time again that it is the more agressive and war like country afterall, so who is real threat? If you live in Europe, and probably the U.S., you should be aware that Israel has nuclear weapons pointed right at you (sampson option) as yet another blackmail device to get what it want regardless of the harm done to other peoples. enough Israeli bullying, it has no legal or moral right to control what Iran does or does not do.
+10, because that my friend is reality.
[Israel] has no legal or moral right to control what Iran does or does not do.
Israel needs neither the legal right or the moral right to control what Iran does or does not do. All it needs is the military might. That has been the way of the world since Cain and Able.
So if Iran could wipe Israel of the map that would be OK by your criteria. But since they can't do that then Israel should simply pretend to feel threatened and wipe Iran off the map instead.
Fuckin' brilliant.
Since when is Iran 'verbally threatening Israel', except in retaliation if Israel attacks them?
The 'Iran threatens to wipe Israel off the map' meme is horseshit, by the way:
http://antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025
No nuclear attack on Iran is justified, particularly, as everyone in the US defence establishment attests, they don't have nukes and have not made the decision to build them, either:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57354647/face-the-nation-transcript...
Has someone hijacked your login, Doc? I can't believe I'm reading this nonsense from you.
Since when is Iran 'verbally threatening Israel' ...
February 2, 2012:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iran-says-it-launched-sa...
But Israel had been blowing up Iranians for years before that statement was made. Try again.
By the same immoral logic .... A nuclear attack on Israel is morally justified: because Israel is seeking (has successfully sought) nuclear weapons and is verbally threatening Iran, it is logically estopped from objecting to the use of such weapons against itself.
Hey Dr Acula, you are speaking about human beings being mass murdered!
Here's a simple question for the anti Israeli crowd...if you were the leaders of Israel, would you trust Obama Administration with information about a pending attack?
Backwards speak, your statement should say, If you were the leader of USA, wouldn't you want Israel to make a cover story for US forces so we don't take fuk nukes from Russia and China in retaliation because we were already warned not to, but we have to. Fixed.
Here's a simple question for the pro-Israel crowd. Why do you support a country which has killed more Westerners than Iran has?
Anytime Iran and Republican advantage can be said in the same sentecne your looking at crooked history. Is is possible the GOP has made a side deal with Isreal already, similar to what could have happened to Jimmy Carter?
I sure hope so.
They don't trust the Obama Administration. One can only conclude that an attack is in the offing for the near future.
If the israelis drag the usa into a war against iran, then it will be time to throw off our zionists masters and wipe AIPAC off the map, and dig up marylyn monroe.
Must be strange to be in Iran and have the US and Israel jawboning about attacking your country, when, how, etc, etc... It would probably lead me to do some radical stuff NOW in return... I vote we let Israel and Iran do this dance without us. Mostly because Blankfein is an asshole.
GeneMarchbanks +1
As a Brit, does that mean we get to vote for Ron Paul ;)
it's absolutely impossible for Israel to keep the US in the dark about anything
in fact they already know they're trying to keep them in the dark
why else is the price of oil falling?
www.marketblip.com
Israel will sleep with one eye open, watching out for China and Russia...
There are many, many good people in Iran and Israel and the United States. Hopefully, they'll be able to stop this madness.
War what is it good for - absolutely nothing - UGH!
Did war ensue when Israel took out the nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria?
All US intelligence agencies and the Pentagon say that Iran has no nukes and an attack would be a mistake. The only people who say that Iran is a threat are Israeli and American politicians and the Mujahedin who supplied the IAEA with false documents.
If you disregard the warnings of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and instead support the Mujahedin terrorist organization what does that make you?
Does anyone really believe that headline??
Bush's bought a 100,000 acre ranch in Peru recently.
Probably not a good area to relocate to.
I think it was Paraguay, but yes.
They've diversified their assets.
Paraguay not Peru, there is no solid proof of this by the way, though there is some evidence that it did happen, if so it was done through a trust that cannot be traced back to the BushCo family easily. The land in question does sit on a gas field and an important water aquifer and will one day be very valuable. I would suggest that if indeed the BushCo's did buy that tract it was as an investment and not as an escape plan, but then you never know, maybe the USA is going to be obliterated by an asteroid or Yellowstone is going to erupt on December 21, leaving the northern hemisphere pretty much uninhabitable and the southern damaged but survivable. It would explain why governments have no fear of economic collapse or destroying their money and the rule of law at the same time.
The US need the war against Iran in the first place, not Israel.
Nice game: good cop - bad cop..
behind the scenes they are pulling the same strings
no warning my ass....the usa is planning the attacks with the israelis playing the role of sock puppet....
even if it were true that israel is maintaining silence (an utter crock) usa foreign policy ministers would be absolute fucktards to stand for it....does anyone really think that the usa does not care about knowing when the straits of hormuz will be closed?
people are walking fucktards if they don't think that even the threat of closure to the straits is not a crisis per se....if iran is attacked, the threat will become reality and will remain that way for weeks if not months and years....
the usa is overplaying its hand...imperial overstretch will occur even if israel/usa prevail in combat....but i assure you that iran will not be crushed...
>people are walking fucktards if they don't think that even the threat of closure to the straits is not a crisis per se
It is not an insurmountable threat. It can be forcibly opened.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_mine, "The total number of mines laid in the North Sea, the British East Coast, Straits of Dover, and Heligoland Bight is estimated at 190,000 and the total number during the whole of WWI was 235,000 sea mines.[14] Clearing the barrage after the war took 82 ships and 5 months, working around the clock."
>i assure you that iran will not be crushed...
Absurd. It will be crushed at minimal expense in a matter of weeks. The air force of Iran is not even a match for Israel's. Any significant costs for USA will depend on the extent of nation-building.
And don't forget that's it's just plain fun to rain death down upon innocent people. Oh, how we'll laugh...
They start the war, and we pay for it! Brilliant!
10 p.m. EST April 6th 2012.
There, now nobody is in the dark. All indications are for April and have been for months. By 10 p.m. EST it will already be Passover morning in the ME Saturday the 7th, a holiday and a weekend when markets are closed, and almost nobody thinks they would launch a raid on Passover, but something will be passing over Fordo and Nantanz though whether you see it as the angel of death depends on if you get in their way. Also, the Enterprise will still be in the area and if we are going to have a flattop attacked the Pentagon wants it to be a ship so old and obsolete it is on it's last deployment. Also, full moon on April 6.
or Purim, which launched the Gulf War 1 Feb 28 1991, Dubya's ultimatum to Saddam, March 17 2003, & aerial bombing of Libya last year. . .
http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/purim
loose lips sinks ships, and the US is the Titanic
Non, the world is our Titanic now. If only it were just the USA.
touche' btr
Stands to reason to me: only complete idiots trust obama.
and/or blinded by guv handouts
Government's lie. Always. So how do we interpret this lie? Obama doesn't want to be blamed for another war, so when Israel "strikes without permission," Obama can pretend to reluctantly support our ally and kick off WWIII.
"Israel, weapons free." - Washington
"Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey on Tuesday told a senate panel that he did not instruct Israel against an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities."
"Dempsey, who visited Israel for high-level talks in January, was answering the Senate panel's questions on comments he made about a possible Israeli attack on the Islamic Republic earlier this month. In an interview with CNN the US military chief had said that such an attack would be destabilizing."
http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=259788At least a senior US Military officer leader is telling the truth, and warning Israel ... and also the US.
We need more of this sort of professional Officer to speak up because Israel is going to make a huge propaganda and $$$ donar effort to push US politicians towards a major war on behalf of a sick and debauched state, and its cretinous Govt of endless war making.
Does the US really need to see more of this stupid butchery to know it's totally the wrong path to take?
So where is the US joo-owned media?
Perhaps they're busy formulating another baseless, factless and insane propaganda effort, to support Israel's lobbying for another great war ... with the USA and obomber as headline stars!
i find it funny in a haha sense that israel actively courts the support of the christian zionists who openly wish for the destruction of israel so that there will be one thousand years of peace on earth while they(israel) war monger for the destruction of iran which may actually bring about the wishes of the christian zionists. who makes up this kind of reasoning?
i take the side of the christian zionists, even though i am not christian, just in case they are right. war could very well mean peace.
And a self inflicted gunshot wound might mean you'll live to a ripe old age. Give it a go.
that reasoning has a huge flaw. it is based upon the false assumption the usa needs israel. the usa does not need israel for anything contrary to what the zionists would have anyone believe. iran, on the other hand, has the most precious commodity in the world and lots of it. so, an attack on iran is like bleeding the patient to treat a cold.
Now I have no idea whatsoever as to what your opinion is in this matter.
"Israel To Keep US In The Dark Before Launching Pre-emptive Iran Attack"
That is an interesting headline. How might this (hypothetical) headline be received?
US To Keep Israel In The Dark Before Permanently Ending $3+ Billion Per Year In Foreign Aid
This is pure bullshit.. i am not buying into this....
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Israel To Keep US In The Dark Before Launching Pre-emptive Iran Attack "
Quite honestly i have greater belief in fairies at the bottom of the garden than this crap !
Who's b*llSh*ti*ng who ? Our warmachine will get plenty of notice - - this advisory is for consumption by the slaves.
Israel is going to do what Israel deems best.
I would not be surprised if a few "Spirits" in the form of B2's give a little helping hand...
Good hunting and good fortune. We all need it.
And no I am not stupid either, I am already assessing and preparing according to current public infomration about US Government plans for a nuclear attack on the USA and how to contain the zone.
And contain it they will, leaving those inside the blast area to die, the fallout rescuing stops in a day and the outer zone completely sealed to incoming and outgoing.