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"Hot, Damn Hot!" - July Is Hottest Month. Ever
In the immortal words of Robin Williams in Good Morning Vietnam: July was Hot, Damn Hot! In fact, according to NOAA, it was the hottest July and hottest month on record and there's no short-term indication of this massively dry spell ending anytime soon. What is perhaps even more impressive is that the the last year has been the warmest 12-month period for the contiguous US since records began in 1895!
Just crazy anomalous conditions wherever you look in July...
with March through July all setting records for highest temperatures on record...
and the warmest 12-month period on record (since 1895!)...

which is summarized by Robin Williams thus:
Source: NOAA
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Wrong! Gloabal warming has not stopped. It is rising. I call it global warming because "know nothing" conservatives don;t scare me.
It is getting warmer, the data confirm it. The deniers are slowing growing silent as the facts continue to prove them wrong.
Global temperatures rising due to CO2 accumulation in the atmosphere is both "climate change" and "global warming".
400PPM CO2 and rising fast. You are going to see more and more record heat as it heads for 500PPM. Or is CO2 accumulation an illusion?
Nobody is taking me up on my offer to listen to them refute CO2 increases, that they are man made and trap heat. These are facts, political beliefs have Zero effect on physics. I feel confident is saying that.
oops, wrong place
The models are just that, models. Have you looked at the global average temperatures. The last decade has shown global warming to be true.
I heard progressives from both the Republicrat and Demoplican parties know the secret to preventing global warming: Raise taxes.
Here is a graph showing the US temperature data before James Hansen of NASA got started changing the old temperatures that didn't fit in with his religious views of AGW. Check out the article at: http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/07/31/how-the-us-hockey-stick-was-built/
Great chart,has Der Flakmeister seen it ?
That chart is a joke, right? The latest temperature evidence confirms the so called hockey stick.
Google a chart of CO2 as measured in PPM. It went over 400PPM this spring for a time, that is game changing levels. And it is only going up, up and away!
Global climate warming is a done deal unless their is a wild card that no one knows about a negative feedback loop storng enough to overpower the positive feedback loops, like sea methane hydrate releases.
The jury is in, tell your kids they will probably escape a carbon tax, but as for the rest. I'm sure your kids, when they are in their 50's will thank you for all you have done for the planet, the planet is the only place we have got. My cats don't shit in their food room or where they sleep. They are smarter than your average "know nothing".
Global climate warming is a done deal unless their is a wild card that no one knows about a negative feedback loop storng enough to overpower the positive feedback loops, like sea methane hydrate releases.
Not according to temp charts thru 2011,for the past ten years
Actually the temp globally has gone DOWN.
Wrong! Not true.
And of course cats are a necessity for humans and do not emit CO2. So you are clearly showing you are not willing to help solve the "problem?"
To look at this in scientific terms, have you ever look at the absorption spectra of water vs CO2? (actual graphs from analysis, not widened ones from AGW websites which just happen to show absorption all across the far IR range that matches up with earth's emission)
Then why don't you look at the relative abundances of CO2 vs water vapor in the atmosphere, as well as normalize the CO2 for the percentage added from humans (you can do respiration and human machines, etc).
You should figure out that you are basically saying that pissing in the ocean is causing the level to rise.
pods
Oh my goooodness! 400ppm! Run for the hills!
400ppm is LOW by historical standards. Life on earth got along fine with levels multiples higher:
http://www.biocab.org/carbon_dioxide_geological_timescale.html
BLAH BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH BLAH BLAH. You spew the same bullshit one hears from every jet set environmnetalist. Pop science laced with assertion of we are infallable and itsa ENVIROMENTAL CATASTROPHE!!!!!!!!
Easy boy, cut back on the meth and you will be more rational. The more I am right the more desperate the posters are getting.
Actually, my post today are a deliberate attempt to stick with the facts and the science, I will not back down to be called a jack ass or the Blah, Blah, Blah.
Clearly as you guys have no facts, no science, no rational arguments you degenerate into kindergarden playground behaviors.
Do you have an argument or not. Clearly I have been posting all afternoon and not one rational argument has been made that can knock down the science and physics of global warming caused by man's burning of fossil fuels.
All the evidence says I am right. That is where I prefer to be, in the right. Prove me wrong if you can, I say you haven't a leg to stand on.
Must be you somehow overlooked my post right above, but speaking of physics, chemistry and everything, why not hop off your high horse and answer the question?
To look at this in scientific terms, have you ever look at the absorption spectra of water vs CO2? (actual graphs from analysis, not widened ones from AGW websites which just happen to show absorption all across the far IR range that matches up with earth's emission)
Then why don't you look at the relative abundances of CO2 vs water vapor in the atmosphere, as well as normalize the CO2 for the percentage added from humans (you can do respiration and human machines, etc).
Then come back and argue that reducing 50% of what, 3%, is somehow going to magically fix everything.
It won't, you know it and I know it. It is about CONTROL.
This might illustrate how ineffective the CO2 solution would be:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law
pods
Pretty soon we will end up with a small ice age for EUROLAND. It's all part of their planning.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jul/24/greenland-ice-sheet-thaw-nasa
Greenland ice sheet melted at unprecedented rate during July
Yes indeed. NASA using the word "unprecedented" for the Greenland melt.
"Unprecedented", which means unique, never ever before. How do they know that? Why use an unscientific alarmist word?
Eric the Red, a big chief honcho Viking used to live in Greenland.
"Erik the Red - Leif Eriksson's father.
In the 960s Erik the Red, a fiery Norwegian, was exiled from his home in Norway. He went to Iceland, where he married Thjodhildur. He was later banished from there for three years. Erik headed west and discovered a land with an inviting fjord landscape and fertile, green valleys. He was greatly impressed by the land's resources, and he returned to Iceland and spoke about this land, which he called "the green land".
In 986 he set out from Iceland at the head of 25 ships, heading for Greenland. There were 500 men and women on board. Of the 25 ships only 14 reached their destination.
The Vikings founded Brattahlid and the two hamlets of Vesterbygden and Østerbygden. Around the year 1000 the population was approx. 3,000, living in 300-400 farms. This small community survived for 500 years. Why they disappeared is still a great mystery. "
http://www.greenland-guide.gl/leif2000/history.htm
We know climate is naturally variable. How does that say anything about mans burning of fossil fuels on a massive scale and forcing CO2 accumulations into the atmosphere that trap heat radiation that would otherwise escape to space?
Do you understand the difference between a naturally variable system and that same system exposed to an external forcing agent?
That's like saying the daily temperature in my house varies, but can't be raised by my turing up the furnace. The argument has no merit.
We know variable systems can be changed by external inputs. Basic high school science. This in no way disproves anything about man induced gloal warming.
And it is snowing in South Africa. Yep...interesting times.
Rare snowfall stuns much of South Africahttp://www.ctvnews.ca/world/rare-snowfall-stuns-much-of-south-africa-1.9...
"Rare snowfall stuns much of South Africa"
There we go again. Morons using journalistic licence to make a story out of nothing.
"Snow hasn’t fallen in Johannesburg, South Africa in five years"
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/africa/south-africa/120807/snow-south-africa-Johannesburg-pretoria
Jim Cantore Bitchezzz
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Someone check to see if all of Bernanke's printers are California approved ULEV II certified.
I saw manbearpig.
And he shat all over this page.
i'm super cereal you guyz
Why doesn't anyone listen?!
I bet he has some really great subprime carbon credits to sell you. He'll put you in touch with a Mr. Jon Corzine.
Yeah, so what?
Did anybody ask what is the level of radiation being released by the Sun was over the past year and how it varied since 1895?
Moreover, they have had a lot of rain in Britain this July...so what happens in the USA implies "global this or global that"?
I think not.
(By the way, the NOAA picture, citing loss of electrical service in the DC area, merely shows that a political agenda is being pushed. While electrical consumption is somewhat related to temperature, electrical service availability is not.)
It's OK everyone. The sun is just in the process of exploding. A perfectly natural occurence. Now please get in your Hummer, go through the McDonald's drive-thru, have a pink slime burger and a vegetable oil shake and fall back into your diabetic, apneated comas to dream of the oxygen that once was.
When there are huge forest fires all across the US and around the world I never hear one environmentalist say that this raw unfiltered pollution is destroying the planet with all that carbon that is being spewed into the atmosphere. Or when Saddam Hussein lit all his oil wells on fire a turned the sky black for months i never hear any environmental wacko stand up and point out that incident caused any global warming based on numbers and charts what with all the known factors of how long it burned and how munch it contributed to the warming period seeing how it was in the early 90's. they should with no problem showing a corralation between the two right? Of course they dont because that would mean they would have to provide facts and data to support this and they cant manipulate data they cant control.
just go ask Dr. Mann at East Anglia about that hide the decline by using a different equation to get the desired result comment. thanx for playing. see you next time on how gullible are you
Wrong! The great East Anglia scandal is now a proven hoax. Simply editing emails to leave out the proper context of the discussions.
Read in full, the emails have nothing at all that shows faking of science. They do show concern for missing heat that should have shown up in atmospheric temperature records. Well, that set off the deniers. But in fact that heat has been accounted for, it has turned up as warming of deeper ocean waters. The seas are a giant heat sink, they are more effective at soaking up heat than many scientists believed. But you see, science is not static, it changes to fit the facts as new facts appear in new data. Unlike denier wackos who worry about Saddams buring oil wells, as if that had anything to do with the CO2 released by burning of fossil fuels.
Oil and coal is fossil carbon taken out of the atmosphere by natural processes. Digging it up and burning it changes the carbon cycle, increases CO2 in the atmosphere and leads to trapping of more heat that otherwise would be radiated into space.
All the facts point to global warming being true. Deniers have little or no facts and their science is no existent. They act like wacko's when presented with easily proven facts. The data confirm they are wrong.
no comment. it no longer matters.
Sounds like cougar_w hasn't had his daily meal of raw bankster yet.
Bottoms up cougar_w. :>)
Exxon Mobil, BP, natural gas and coal companies all say burning their products does not effect the climate, and goddamn it I believe them because they're so rich, smart, and honest.
Indeed! They are the last bastion of truth against the "carbon taxers" who want more government revenue coming in so they can give it to black people as welfare. All true Americans know this, only liberal fools would buy into fake junk science that all these lazy scientists insist they must be given taxpayer grant money to study,
Who ya gonna believe, your lieing thermometer or Rush Limbaugh {AKA drug addicted knot head fool}?
isn't being lighter technically albative?
What is the primary element/compound in melanin?
Is it feasible that we could "carbon tax" darker peoples more?
ablative?
MrBoompi
"Al Gore says that burning fossil fuels effects the climate, and goddamn it I believe him because he's so rich, smart, and honest and burns loads and loads of it himself."
Well that settles it. Earth 4.2 billion years old, hottest July since 1895 we are all going to die, unless you all embrace my luddite energy ideas. Each home will be required to pedal a generator 3 hours per day with no co2 exuded, hold your breath ...
http://www.theospark.net/2012/08/the-utter-desperation-of-global-warming.html
No CO2? I am not allowed to breathe??
Exactly as it all comes to ananti-human ideaology...
natural-adjective1 existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind :carrots contain a natural antiseptic that fights bacteria | natural disasters such as earthquakes.
this is the dictionary definition of natural. somehow people aren't natural. what are we a bunch of aliens? according to the wacko environmental left we are the parasites or as the film "the Matrix" says that humans are a virus going from one civilization to the next depleting its resources. yeah locusts never do that or what about those evil termites who destroy the precious trees or the bees or the snails or the whales. you sir are spot on and just for your contribution here is a classic piece of common sense. R.I.P. George Carlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw
Never let a crisis go to waste, whether real or contrived.
Its logical that man made carbon gases is heating up the earth. Its like smoking, its logical its going to cause problems for humans. IF you deny it, what level of man made activity would convince you men can change the climate of the entire globe with their actions. We pump the equivilant of a supervolcano worth of C02 into the atomosphere every few months. Just one erruption from Krakato changed the climate for years. Its not to late to change course. The benifits are huge.
Please elaborate on "The benefits are huge".
But please exclude people like Al Gore getting richer from running tax scams on "carbon credits".
The human race contributes 0.01%, thats 1/100th of a percent, of all the greehouses gases produced annually. The main contributor is the biomass - all the decomposing things, mostly on the surface of the ocean. #2 is the magma.
According to UN nuclear weapon studies produced before the corporate coup, when the ozone layer depletes, less solar energy is trapped and the temperature goes down. Its called "Nuclear Winter". You know, when things 40x as dense as the atmosphere like CFCs defy gravity and migrate 7 miles straight up to where the ozne layer is. The ozone layer is produced entirely in the upper atmosphere due to the interaction of solar radiation with the atmosphere. It is extremely dynamic, measurably changing in response to SOLAR fluctuations within months. Your logic contradicts observable phenomena, Al.
Earth has passed through ice ages, sultry hot ages and traumatic geological and climatic upheavals all without the help of humans. Fact, the Sun is the responsible in an overwhelming way for Solar System climate no matter which planet, comet or moving body. The Sun constantantly changes and there is nothing we can do about it.
If these governments manage a nuclear exchange of scale, then extinction via nuclear winter is the next really big thing and not the CONTROL AGENDA of NGO, UN out to trash our rights and tax us for the privilige.
Over half of US income tax now goes without taxes to the Fed - the Federal Reserve Bank. Freeing up this cash flow would do wonders for the American people and our economy.
The idea that the sun burns hotter or transfers more heat energy to the earth is worth exploring. I have not seen any evidence to back up this theroy. If its true it does not mean that mans pollution is not also heating things up. That theroy has overwhelming evidence that its true.
This is not really the content I expect to read on ZH. Although now that we're talking about it, it is only human nature to extrapolate the present into the distant future, whether it's global temperatures or AAPL earnings. Everybody just take a breath...
Al Gore is still a tool
Somehow my posting has turned into stuttering.
Industrial production and the Baltic dry index are headed for a swan's dive so it should be getting cooler any minute now.
Carbon cycle isn't about people just burning fossil fuels. Amount of land we have cleared for agriculture/animal grazing the last 60-70 years has had a larger overall impact.
And we're still airconditioning the sidewalks of NYC...
and this affects me how? LOL
If you think humans have no effect on our climate I've got some sub-prime mortgage backed securities to sell you...
Facts Based On 2011 Data
The world consumes 31,755,000,000 barrels of oil per year (31.7 Billion Barrels)
The US consumes 7,117,500,000 barrels of oil per year (7.1 Billion Barrels [22% of World Production])
Gulf of Mexico Reserves
Discovered: 2006
Size: 7 – 15 Billion Barrels
Could keep world economy running for: 3 to 6 months.
Could keep US economy running for: 1 to 2 years.
Largest oil resource discovered since Prudhoe Bay.
Prudhoe Bay
Discovered: 1968
Size: 10 – 25 Billion Barrels
Actual Production To Date: 11 Billion Barrels
Remaining Reserves: 2 Billion Barrels
Alaska National
Wildlife Reserve (ANWR)
Latest Estimates: 1998
Size: 5.7 – 16 Billion Barrels
Could keep world economy running for: 2 to 7 months.
Could keep US economy running for: 1 to 2 years.
North Dakota Tight Oil (Bakken)
The average tight oil well, over its lifetime, produces roughly 150 barrels of oil per day.
The average tight oil well will only produce 550,000 barrels of oil in its lifetime.
The lifetime oil production from a single tight oil well can keep the world running for: 9 minutes.
The lifetime oil production from a single tight oil well can keep the US running for: 40 minutes.
The Deepwater Horizon could have produced that much in 100 days if it hadn’t exploded.
THE WORLD CONSUMED AS MUCH OIL IN THE LAST 22 YEARS AS IT DID IN THE 200 YEARS BEFORE THAT.
What a punchline. FACT! If you put fact before something, it is absolute truth. FACT!
Find your own facts if you're so good at it. I have my own.
Yes, to each his own facts! Facts, glorious facts! Hot sausage and mustard!
Yes, and the world consumed as much oil in the last 22 years as the 4 billion years before that.
Spare me the drama, there's over 1 trillion (CAP T) reserves on and off shore in north america. Heck, Eagle Ford alone has 25 billion.
DRILL BABY DRILL.
As prior conversations have made clear, the amount of the reserves is less relevant to current life than the daily output possible from said reserves. For your comment to be useful, do you have any data on the probable daily output from the reserves you referenced?
In case you missed those prior conversations, if daily output from oilfields is less than daily consumption, we will have an energy crises - regardless of how large the reserves are. Trying to be informative here, not snarky.
Prices act as a signal. Liberals never understand that.
Yeah the signal has been broken since around 2005...
http://www.markpine.us/blog_images/Oil_price_vs_production_120125.jpg
Eagle Ford has an estimated 25 billion according to you. That is almost a 1 year supply for the world assuming all of it can be pulled out.
Where are you getting your 1 trillion number? Certaintly not from the IEA.
I feel more right when I get downvotes without rebuttals :)
and some still question the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.....Forgive us Al, you were right !
i downed you because you forgot the <sarc> tag. You did forget on accident right?????
If you meant it then you deserve at least 3 more trashings
unaware of <sarc> and that alone prob deserves 3 more <sarc> Best post so far, by far, is YOU DIDN'T WARM THIS
Looks like the Global Warming Fairy forgot to visit London, Los Angeles and San Francisco.
Yeah! All we got was a visit from that Climate Change Goblin. Little green bastard.
nano tech in der air going up der nose into der brain
cumin from chemtrails.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgmoz4f8LA4
fukishima isotopic deadly radiation soup
mixed with 100s of tons of us used military depleted uranium
mixed with barium,mercury and other heavy metals.
nasa spraying aeroplanes spraying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ljJ3u7oQQY
strange weather
stranger sky's.
somebody once us scum dead
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies
Well, the world is warming and it´s no fake... While climate change is obvious, attention is put in QEs and the Olympics.. Thanks governments of the world!
So that's why they reintroduced the Olympic Games in 1896! Devious bastards.
here we go again ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Always amazed too at how people react to this issue with 'who cares how does it affect me.' Funny because lots of people in power care and care a lot about it especially on how it impacts fool supplies and prices especially in the developing world since a number of households there often spend a decent portion of their income on food/subsitence. Last time you had a dramatic increase in food prices due to weather-related effects in '08, you have all kinds of instability and regime change in a number of different countries.
Simple facts are that if you increase the global temperature by 1-2 degrees C you will see a shift in the regions today where staple grains & crops are produced. Some new areas will open up but a number of areas especially in Asia will likely see decreased output. It matters and matters a lot especially in a world with a growing population and one that increasingly is demanding & consuming more animal-based protein.
An increase of 3-4 degrees C on average would be pretty detrimental to humans and towards the later end of that range see the failure of most staple grain crops we currently grow today. Basically would be the end of human civilization in its current form.
Why people care and care a lot about this topic because the reality is that for all of our technology and know how we are still bitches heavily dependent upon favorable weather to feed ourselves.
Weather issue aside, you have some rather bright people in agriculture who are really concerned since yields on a number of crops on an acreage basis are topping out, freshwater supplies are increasingly becoming stretched and in some cases depleted in key agriculture producing areas of the world (e.g., Punjab region in India), and there are huge concerns about being able to keep up and increase production of potash and other critical fertilizers to meet anticipate future demand.
If people in power really gave a shit about the proles do you think they would take money extracted from the proles at gunpoint to subsidize growing food to burn in cars?
GTFO, it is, and always has been, about CONTROL.
pods
The outer planets are also experiencing global warming.
How do you measure the temperature of Uranus ? The Al Gore Rectal Thermometer.
WTF!!??
I thought http://wattsupwiththat.com/ broken that damn hockey stick!!
Insulation, its price has more than doubled in the past two years. This product coupled with insulated or doubled windows can greatly lower energy expenses and reduce fossil fuel burning. So, where's the big push for insulation. The bigger the difference between outside and inside temperature, the bigger the Delta T and more insulation will help.
How about Solar Hot Water? This is the biggest return and the longest lasting - practical too!
Both of these approaches reduce energy demand and use while lowering the cost of living. Then they can imagine more restrictions on people while the next war for mid-east oil and gas is hatched in the next few months.
In the UK, most energy companies will insulate your loft space and cavity walls for free (if it isn't already).
http://www.edfenergy.com/products-services/for-your-home/our-services/home-insulation.shtml
So meanwhile that pushes down prices for those people who pay for their own insulation or to supplement what they already have, like I did.
http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=12110&title=B%26Q+offers+cut-price+loft+insulation+again
I would imagine the US is very different to the UK though as the houses are very very different and subject to much more temperature extremes.
To anyone who says, 'Who cares' ask them if they eat food. Something an idiot would say. It is reasonable to debate just how greatly humans affect the carbon cycle and what can be realistically done without severly curtailing economic activity.
The issue though needs to be and should be linked with oil production & consumption though since it would bring together various groups that would have a better chance of addressing this in a comprehensive format and finding some common ground. Much more pressing need especially since the days of bringing on additional supplies of cheap light crude are rapidly diminishing.
At least housing has bottomed...for the 3rd year in a row.
The fact is the globe is warming due to man's activities. Even if it was warming naturally, man's activities would make it worse. Those are facts. To suggest otherwise is to to imply that 7 billion people have no impact on the environment whatsoever, which is absurd.
Second if any of the rocket scientists in the room can explain why the artic ice cap is melting, why the glaciers are melting and why the Greenland Ice Cap is melting, I'm all ears. On second thought, don't bother, I'll just watch FAUX "News" to find out how you'd respond.
Third, in light of the fact Big Oil has an enormous say in government, it should come as no surprise that so, so, many US citizens remained uninformed and/or in denial about global warming, even when the evidence is slapping them in the face. The "anti-warming campaign" conducted by organizations like Exxon Mobil and people like the Kochs has been an astouding success, as evidenced by the opinions of many in this room. 'All is well. Nothing to fear. Nothing will change. You can trust us.'
Fourth, witnessing the reactions of deniers is a eye opening glimpse into how humans react when faced with a potentially unresolvable crisis that could render human life impossible on earth i.e. denial as a form of suicide. I'd almost feel sorry for you, almost. Unfortunately YOUR denial will impact MY children and grandchildren who will be forced to live with the result of your inability to face reality.
Flame away but I won't respond. You opinions are truly worthless and I'd rather do something productive rather than attempting to respond rationally to the kind of stupid, arrogant, uninformed comments I know will result. A pox on all of you.
If i didn't know better I'd say this is my freind Craig. You people all sound exactly the same, and I do mean EXACTLY THE SAME! So much the same that you referrence the Koch Bros. It's hilarious and sad at the same time. I love this idiotic quote that "even if the earth was warming NATURALLY, man's activities would make it worse. Yeah by 2.5 degrees over the last 100 years.
Hey smart guy answer me this. Since scientists acknowledge that we have had approximately 10-11 icea ages in the last 100,000 years please explain how the humans and their fossil fuels along with Exxon Mobile and those dasterdly Koch's can make the cooling and warming that occurs NATURALLY worse. How did the planet heat up from all that CO2 from cars and A/C.
What makes this so hilarious is that the solution is a carbon tax and a cap and trade system that says that its ok to pollute just as long as you pay more taxes from a carbon exchange that is rigged and controlled by the gov't or the UN to determine which country or industry(read political supporter) gets to sell their carbon credits to and for how much. BTW. Cass Sunstein who co-wrote this is Obuttfukk's regulatory czar and has a book called "Nudge" that uses gov't to nudge/shove people in a direction they don't want to go, so they have to come up with clever wording like climate change because too many people have caught on to the fraud of global warming.
http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/files/SunsteinWeb6.pdf
Why do you think that climate change used to be called global warming which used to be called the greenhouse gas affect that was caused by the ozone layer which was called global cooling back in 1974 by Time magazine.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html
And last but not least here's one from NASA regarding the heat leaving the atmosphere.
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism...
Use common sense and for god's sake pick up a book or look at the carbon cycle that is natural no matter what percent that humnas contribute, which is 3-4%. Educate yourself with science and stop listening to either scientist who has an agenda. Bet you didn't know that Saudi Arabia pays environmental activists in Canada to stop oil production just so they can continue their quasi monopoly. WTFU
Global warming is a lie! It is just a big conspiracy by every single scientist in the world, who all meet secretly every other week to coordinate and fake all of this data.
/this is what some people actually believe
Not every week.
My brother was a scientist in a pure field.
The whole international community in that field kept in regular contact,in
between twice yearly conferences.
The grants in that field were peanuts.I can only imagine the C02 being
produced by the contacts between scientists in a very lucrative area like AGW.
In fact,maybe that's whats causing the 'man made' AGW.
You are really being an ignorant twat.
You really think that one side is right and on the side of the Angels while the other greedy side is full of these maliscious demons that want to fry the planet we all live on?
Fuck you.
"every single scientist in the world"
Just the ones on the government grant tit , work for the government or are in academia are selling the scam...you do know the lowest performing PhDs (they can not get a job in the real world) are in academia/governement don't you?
That's what happens when you place temperature sensors in the middle of paved parking lots, and right behind office building AC radiator exhaust fans.
Banking fraud causes dustbowls.
Yes, history tends to repeat.
Really looking forward to see how the human species evolves to the warmer temperatures. That is certainly what science teaches us -- right?. Therefore no reason to sweat warmer temperatures -- man (and every other species) will evolve -- right??. Some will like it more than others, but we certainly should not attempt to tinker with evolution -- right?? Just think if the dinosaurs did so, they would still be roaming around -- right?
So please don't wasted any money on GW prevention. There is no scientific rationale for doing so.
Really looking forward to see how the human species evolves to the warmer temperatures. That is certainly what science teaches us -- right?. Therefore no reason to sweat warmer temperatures -- man (and every other species) will evolve -- right??. Some will like it more than others, but we certainly should not attempt to tinker with evolution -- right?? Just think if the dinosaurs did so, they would still be roaming around -- right?
So please don't wasted any money on GW prevention. There is no scientific rationale for doing so.
Evolution teaches us that some species may be knocked down and out in extreme changes. Many humans like many mammals will have heart attacks from the high heat and dehydration and our food sources are cooking outside before our very eyes - fish and corn for example.
But I thought that is how evolution works -- survival of the fittest. Getting "knocked down and out" is just a part of the evolutionary process. Get the weak heart ones out of the herd. Remember we are all morally equivalent in the eyes of science and evolution -- people, dogs, ants -- all different, but equal. So no sympathy for the weak seems scientifically prudent.
These seem to be the logical conclusions of evolution -- which evolutionists don't care much to talk about or think through.
Of course humans affect the Earth's climate...
We live in a hermetically sealed ball of rock; the lungs of Mother Nature are purged in the rainforests and we pump toxins from the machinations of a modern society.
How much we affect the delicate dance, tis up for debate.
This is a Hot Topic.
not as hot as the basements of 8 japanese melted down nuke plants.
not as hot as the depleted uranium particles twinkling in everyone lungs
Most people believe what they want to believe. IF Rush, Foxnews, Drudge and Glen Beck says there is no global warming going on, then that is good enough for a lot of people. And science isn't going to change their minds. It is what they want to believe.
And it is a shame. The science is relatively simply. I think anyone with a high school degree and a little common sense can look at the science and make up their own minds. But it is easier just to listen to those that tell you what you want to believe rather than to reach their own conclusion.
Listen up idiot, the right terminology is: Climate change. It happens at least four times a year. Is there a correlation of the Fukushima radiation release? Is there a correlation in regards to the recent sun spot activity? Then again it could be that the Earth is moving around the closest star in our galaxy. Who knows. I would also have to say this, the tin foil that you would get at the local store is not truly tin foil, it is actually just your regular aluminum foil. And the reason? The making of aluminum has a byproduct - fluoride. Which was used in the MK Ultra mind control experiments...which in your case is still going on. So, the aluminum IS NOT working, but the flouride IS working. Does it get HOT during the summer? Does it get COLD during the winter? Obviously there are nefarious Operations going on, and YOU are able to discern these actions through your wisdom and intellect. Methinks you need some SSRI's to stabilize your outlook. Then again it could be LGM's. Just saying. Oh yeah, I forgot to say, YOU GOT JUNNKED for being retarded. Just saying.
YOU got junked for being retarded. The right terminology is "climate change driven by GLOBAL WARMING"
And no, the winters are not cold anymore, they keep warming more, melting more, less snowfall and the lower snowpack every year endangers every crop.
@ Jagger
"The science is relatively simply. I think anyone with a high school degree and a little common sense can look at the science and make up their own minds. "
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Well you have clearly made up your mind and you have a little common sense. You must be so much smarter than tens of thousands of University qualified Scientists who disagree with you.
Read a few of the theories here that are contrarian to your own beliefs.
http://theglobalwarmingtruth.com/
GRAND SLAM
So right on man. no cold winters anymore, less snowfall, they keep warming more. Yeah man. <sarc>
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/04/07/11077637-anchorage-breaks-57-...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/01/30/bitter-cold-records-broken-in-alas...
http://mountshastaguide.com/2011/03/more-snow-records-broken-in-mt-shasta/
Here is my closing statement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63lYBalGx7M
I junked you. Not for your comments (they are open for mockery, regardless) but for your avatars name, an ersatz name... One that is all ready taken. Ridicule on you.
climate change does not mean the temperature will rise everywhere.
it might get colder in some places, but the average world temperature will rise.
but this does not mean that there won't be any really cold winters anymore.
the average temperature in the world will rise.
but it also means big changes in the distributions of average rainfall.
whicch does not mean that there won't be any exceptionally dry or wet seasons.
and it does not really matter if humans cause it or not, it happens and will cause changes.
is that so hard to understand?
Of course this record year has nothing to do with human activity. It's not like smoking into the atmosphere tons of carbon that were stored for geological ages underground, in what is equivalent of a geological nanosecond, has anything to do with it. Ok, humans have disrupted almost every other natural system, but climate?
I am archiving these comments for when the sun goes out of it's current high activity and we have a coldest month on record ever.
the sun isn't in a high-activity thermal phase. Charged particles may be up but solar input for photons is not. Instead it's the lack of cooling at night since the heat is trapped in. That's why the moon isn't experiencing the same increase in temperatures nor are any of the other planets according to the scale of their distance (inverse square law)
The sun started picking up activity this year or by the end of last year, after a couple years of a minimum. Still we've been having record temperatures almost every year during that minimum. You can imagine what will happen during the high cycle that just started. You're already watching it.
Obama's fault
Would the AGW deniers simply save everyone a great deal of effort and acknowledge that there is NOTHING that will change their minds? The ignorant and deranged character of most of their comments indicates that this is as much a matter of reason for them as American Exceptionalism and the divinity of Jesus.
We are headed for grave climate problems because a handful of sociopathic billionaires have figured out how to manipulate angry mobs of ignorant people into holding self-destructive beliefs. Don't worry about the Koch brothers, though. They will keep cool no matter what happens to the millions of useful idiots who support them.
Hey, you have an explanation for why Hansens record of 1930s temperatures are warmer now than the same periods he reported back in the 1990s? Or why Mann would use one set of data to show a decline in temperatures then replace that data with another set of data in periods that suit him and then present the combined set as a single record?
Do you really think the Koch brothers have this magical power that they can make people simply disbelieve proven science? Because AGW is not proven, in fact, it has been shown already to be rife with fraud and incopetence on the part of its advocates who only incidentally will make hundreds of billions selling offsets, waivers and political capital.
You are so fucking niave it's ridiculous.
Your posts in thread are seriously rude and crude. Here's right back at you: you have the IQ of belly button lint and the scientific knowledge of a thimble.
In other news, deniers are deniers and facts are facts. Just because your core beliefs are being shattered (that is, humans are god created) doesn't mean the facts behind anthropogenic climate change are wrong.
So what if I did have a low IQ? That doesnt mean AGW is correct. It doesnt mean that you arent being a soulless, cum-swallowing little bitch sucking up to your TA trying to be all bad and shit over the internet either.
If your going to be rude, at least salt it with some facts or something akin to reason or rhyme.
Otherwise, reading your bullshit is a waste of time and boring as hell.
I don't believe it. I record the weather daily. Where I live I have recorded the temperature as being below average 3 years in a row. So far this year has been normal and T is just starting to peak. But the "official" temperature for the last year has jumped 10-15 degrees. Either they moved the thermometer to a hotspot or they are lying. What motive would AGW control freaks have to lie? When the Supreme Court upholds lying as truth, all bets are off.
I do hope you're joking. Can you tell me how you work out your "average"?
I have a thermometer that records the high & low. I record it daily and compare it to the historic highs & lows. I'm not averaging, I'm using the actual numbers. Until January it was consistently close to the official number; since January, coinsistently low by 12-15 degrees. I didn't change anything and my numbers are consistent with the prior years I have recorded. No joke. Check for yourself.
Roy Spencer has a new post at his website which casts doubt on this headline. He does note that the daytime temperatures in July 1936 were hotter (using the same dataset which produced this headline) than this July for USA, however since night temperatures were hotter the overall 2012 July average beats (but barely) July 1936. His issue mostly lies in what he believes are mal-adjustments for UHI effects that have evolved over time. Certainly the adjustments are adding to the warming trend. I believe the unadjusted data from the 48 states shows the 1930's were warmer than the 2000-2009 period, and the adjusted data show the opposite.
In the words of me..... Stop Geoengineering. Chemtrail spraying is terrorism. ChemtrailCentral.com. Have a peek.
HAARP is also fucking up our weather alongside the chemtrails.
It is complex,but I will get to the bottom of it if it the last thing I do.
Which might be the cause of "the last thing I do".
Spread the word brothers and sisters.Peace.
Watts and McIntyre have already blown the lie of a headline out of the water...Sorry worshippers your Priests lied to you again.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/08/dear-noaa-and-seth-which-1930s-wer...
AGW deniers should try to grasp that the food supply is what is in danger, not summertime comfort. Drought and desertification in the current temperate zones will have a massive negative impact on world food supplies. The current crop losses are just a foretaste of what unchecked AGW will bring.
But now that this has become a Red Shirt/Blue Shirt shouting match, no appeal to reason can prevail. As long as some tiny fraction of mankind can fabricate denialist arguments supported by amoral industrialists, governments will be paralyzed and the danger to the world population will grow.
Deniers should realize that sociopaths don't dread AGW. To them it is just another exciting test of their natural supremacy. The poor and weak will starve, and the rich and powerful will move to cooler and more productive places. It is not enough for some plutocrats to win; they must see others lose - and AGW will create billions of losers.
Would you shut up. I am trying to relax and work on my tan.
Using the KNMI data explorer website, I extracted the precipitation records of America's "breadbasket". This area I defined as 35 to 50N, 85 to 110W. From 1900 to 2012 there is a basically flat trend (0.04mm/year increase). If you calculate the trend over the period of most rapid global warming (1975 to 2012), the trend increases to 0.13mm/year. There is no evidence of declining precipitation due to global warming in the area America produces most of its food.
Because the government doesn't have an agenda or an incentive to skew the data vis a vis purported "global warming."
Carbon Tax Exchange?
I take a few days off and look what happens....
I swear that that Yahoo! boards exhibit deeper understanding of science....
Sit down, strap in, stfu.
Global warming expert Sally Baliunas Ph.d explains again