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Paul Ryan Factbox, Nomination Reaction And Lifetime Donors
Reuters summarizes the key facts about the 42-year old House Budget Chair and potential future American vice president.
- Ryan, 42, a rising star among the populist Tea Party movement and fiscal conservatives who dominate the Republican Party, has served seven terms in the U.S. House of Representatives since first being elected in 1998.
- Ryan attracted attention when, as chairman of the powerful House Budget Committee, offered a controversial plan in January 2010 to reform the tax code and eliminate the federal deficit. The plan relies on tax cuts and would minimize federal spending while drastically overhauling Medicare, the popular government-run health program for the elderly.
- Romney endorsed that plan during the primaries, and by adding the Wisconsin congressman to the ticket, he makes the document the centerpiece of his run for the White House and raises the possibility that much of the campaign debate will be about spending, deficits and Medicare, rather than job creation.
- Ryan could help Romney gain ground in his home state of Wisconsin, a battleground state that seems to be leaning toward Obama after a polarizing battle over the unsuccessful recall of the state's Republican Governor Scott Walker.
- But because of Ryan's plan to cut Medicare, Romney also runs the risk of alienating seniors, a group that has narrowly backed Republicans in recent elections.
- Before being elected to Congress, Ryan was an aide to conservative U.S. Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas and has worked with U.S. Senator Robert Kasten of Wisconsin. Ryan also worked for former New York congressman and one-time Vice Presidential candidate Jack Kemp. These experiences make him a creature of Congress - a political body that has become increasingly unpopular among voters in recent years.
- Ryan is a fifth-generation Wisconsin resident. He grew up in Janesville before attending college at Miami University in Ohio. His father and grandfather died of heart attacks in their 50s, making him mindful of a healthy lifestyle and he exercises frequently.
And here are select reactions from various individuals across the political spectrum to his nomination:
WISCONSIN GOVERNOR SCOTT WALKER, REPUBLICAN
"Governor Mitt Romney made a bold and reform-minded selection in Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin. This election has to be about who is going to look out for the next generation. America needs a comeback team to turn around the economy and to turn around the fiscal status of our country. Romney and Ryan have the ideas and the experience needed to take on these core issues. This is a great day for Wisconsin and an even greater day for America."
OBAMA CAMPAIGN MANAGER JIM MESSINA
"In naming Congressman Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney has chosen a leader of the House Republicans who shares his commitment to the flawed theory that new budget-busting tax cuts for the wealthy, while placing greater burdens on the middle class and seniors, will somehow deliver a stronger economy. ... As a member of Congress, Ryan rubber-stamped the reckless Bush economic policies that exploded our deficit and crashed our economy. Now the Romney-Ryan ticket would take us back by repeating the same, catastrophic mistakes."
FLORIDA GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT, REPUBLICAN
"Like Governor Romney, Congressman Ryan understands that government doesn't create jobs, people do, and that the best way to create jobs is to get government out of the way. I'm confident that Congressman Ryan will be a great partner for Governor Romney in getting America back to work."
TEA PARTY PATRIOTS, A CONSERVATIVE ADVOCACY GROUP
"Tea Party Patriots welcomes the selection of Paul Ryan as the vice-presidential running mate for Governor Mitt Romney. With this selection, Governor Romney and the Republican Party make it clear that they have accepted the Tea Party Patriots' values of fiscal responsibility, limited government and free markets as the best course of action for economic recovery and restoring personal freedom and individual responsibility to our national values."
MARY KAY HENRY, PRESIDENT OF THE SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION
"Representative Ryan has made a name for himself by fighting in the halls of Congress for tax giveaways for the wealthy and big corporations while proposing to gut vital services like Medicare and education, and eliminating any sense of retirement security for working families. His no-holds-barred record of attacking seniors, children, and working men and women is frightening for the 99 percent of Americans who are not rich -- but for Mitt Romney it was a calling card to choose him as a running mate."
U.S. SENATOR ROB PORTMAN, REPUBLICAN
"Mitt Romney has made a great choice in Paul Ryan. He is an accomplished public servant and a leading voice on the most pressing issues facing our country. Paul is one of my best friends in Congress and someone I have worked closely with as a former colleague on the House Ways and Means Committee."
FORMER MINNESOTA GOVERNOR TIM PAWLENTY, REPUBLICAN
"Congressman Ryan is a respected leader and a bold thinker regarding the changes needed to restore America. His selection will also help Governor Romney win the key swing state of Wisconsin. I am excited about a Romney-Ryan ticket and look forward to doing all I can to help them win this election."
FORMER U.S. SENATOR RICK SANTORUM, REPUBLICAN
"Congressman Paul Ryan is an outstanding choice as our country's next vice president, and today's announcement demonstrates Governor Romney's commitment to returning fiscal sanity back to Washington, D.C. I have long supported Paul Ryan's fiscal and entitlement reforms to return our country back on a path of fiscal health. At a time when our country is at an economic crossroads, Congressman Ryan's depth of knowledge on how to tackle these challenges is unparalleled. ... He is solidly pro-life, pro-family, and will be an advocate for our military and our national security priorities. I look forward to supporting the Romney-Ryan ticket in the weeks to come."
RICHARD TRUMKA, PRESIDENT OF THE AFL-CIO
"Whether its outsourcing American jobs or picking his running mate, Mitt Romney's proven just how bad his decision making is for working people. Aligning himself with the poster-child for ending Medicare and Social Security puts to rest any suggestion that Romney has a clue what the middle-class needs. We're witnessing the radical Tea Party extremes drive its final nail in what was once the Republican Party."
LOUISIANA GOVERNOR BOBBY JINDAL, REPUBLICAN
"Paul is a good friend and one of the smartest guys I served with in Congress. He has the courage of his convictions, which is what our nation needs."
SENATE MAJORITY LEADER HARRY REID, DEMOCRAT
"By picking Representative Paul Ryan, Governor Romney has doubled down on his commitment to gut Social Security and end Medicare as we know it. Romney's choice demonstrates that catering to the Tea Party and the far-right is more important to him than standing up for the middle class. The months ahead will provide Americans with a clear choice between the Romney-Ryan plan to gut Social Security and Medicare and Democrats' balanced approach to deficit reduction that combines smart spending cuts with asking millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share. Democrats in the Senate look forward to engaging in that debate."
HOUSE MINORITY LEADER NANCY PELOSI, DEMOCRAT
"There is no question that former Governor Romney now owns the Republican Ryan budget that puts millionaires ahead of Medicare and the middle class. Congressman Paul Ryan led House Republicans in voting to end the Medicare guarantee, which increases costs on seniors and weakens America's great middle class in order to give tax breaks to millionaires, Big Oil and corporations that ship jobs overseas."
JUSTIN RUBEN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MOVEON.ORG, A LIBERAL ADVOCACY GROUP
"Romney and Ryan are the 1 percent Dream Team. Representative Paul Ryan is an extremist ideologue who wants to end Medicare, radically redistribute wealth to the top 1 percent, and throw America's middle class under the bus. Ryan's proposed budget would cost America more than a million jobs in less than one year. Like Romney, Ryan believes the poor and middle class should pay more so the rich can get richer. Romney's choice of Ryan is sure to energize MoveOn's more than 7 million members as we work to ensure voters know the truth about Romney and Ryan's extreme plans to demolish Medicare, raise middle class taxes to fund tax cuts for billionaires, and destroy jobs."
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Finally, from Open Secrets, here is a list of the industry support for Paul Ryan throughout his career, and his oppoent, Joe Biden.
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Look I follow politics pretty closely. I know how both sides voted on these issues. You would have a hard time to not see this attack on Ryan as partisan. Is he perfect. No. Nor, is the republican party perfect. I do want what is best for all Americans and I don't see four more years of Obama as the answer. Will I regret Romney four years from now? Maybe. But I'd vote for you over Obama.
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You realize that Ryan is running for VP?
You meant to say "So replacing him with Romney..."
Yes, doesn't matter. The two party lie, is just that, a two-party lie, see comments above for actual solutions.
Not quite. The vast majority of republicans are worthless cunts; but every single democrat is a worthless cunt.
To put it another way: it is not democrat vs. republican, but rather, collectivist vs. individualist. The collectivists completely own the democrats, and mostly own the republicans. The collectivists completely own the leadership of both parties, and that's what counts.
So the democrats vs. republicans game is basically a complete sham, but that doesn't mean that both parties are the same. They're not.
Obama was a community organizer. He got black people in a black neighborhood to complain about being "oppressed". Thats a challenge.
To become oppressor and cheif, oh the irony.
Received Social Security survivor benefits after Dad died, and used them to go to college. Of course he did it all on his own, with no help from anyone else (hahaha)
Has never had a real job. But has had government funded health care since he went to Washington.
He will help Obama win Florida in a landslide.
Obama to Ryan: "You didn't build that career."
Don't know if I would want to take credit for a 14 year career in politics right now. Don't know if I would take credit for that voting record either (voted in favor of TARP, TALF, NDAA, GM bailouts) Talking about deficit reduction while voting for more spending seems a bit hypocritical. Ahh, the smell of fascism, mmm good.
You just nailed Obama!
Didn't vote for obama, troll harder.
Even though you are a troll, I'll thow in a solution, for free.
How about we try letting the owners and management pay off the creditors the next time they run a company into the fucking ground? Leave the taxpayer out of it.
How about we try letting the owners and management pay off the creditors the next time they run a company into the fucking ground? Leave the taxpayer out of it.
This is so fucking brilliant I had to put on my shades.
Too bad it has not happened since 1913, coincidence?
You didn't say that!
These experiences make him a creature of Congress - a political body that has become increasingly unpopular among voters in recent years.
Since when? Are they willing to say that about Obama or anybody else from Chicago?
offered a controversial plan in January 2010
All republican plans are controversial to left leaning reporters.
Troll....
stay on topic about Ryan. because today's repubs are SOOO conservative in the truest sense of the word
He has a valid point. If it was good you wouldn't mind the association... but no, while asking to stay on topic (Ryan) you try to expand it to the whole republican party.
Sorry to break this spell. Try one better next time.
HA HA HA!!!
Ryan is the man with the plan. Tax cuts for the wealthy so they can take the money and buy equities. Dow 20,000! S&P 2,000 NASDAQ 4,000!
he is bow hunter and will energize the NRA folks in middle America. He is ten times as smart and articulate as Joe ("plugs") Biden. He can talk money issues with the best. Tea party support will follow for grass roots support in most of America. Not perfect but hard to see a better choice for Romney !
Ted Nugent -is that you? Wis is the TN of the midwest.
Cass? Cass Sunstein is that you, you dirty motherfucker!
*snort*
He talks money issues with the best???????Are you a fucking decerebrate? Have you actually read his budget aka path to prosperity. You couldn't imagine something so ridiculous on 800000 mics of acid. Romney's best choice would be cancel his campaign and renounce his citizenship like the faggot, mormom, coward, clown rich asshole that he is.
Ryan will have one positive effect on Government and the economy. he won't be chairman of the of the House Budget Committee anymore and with a new chairman we may, after three years, have a budget.
Larry,
Just want to thank-you for your totally vacuous and demented comment. You could not have been more ridiculous if your rant had been delivered by Bozo himself. Acid indeed !
Paul Ryan is a complete dipshit and you know it. There was nothing vacuous or demented about my comment. Go back to church and pray the we negotiate the fiscal cliff or Wall St. gets some more preferential tax treatment. You are a fucking clown like Homey and Bozo.
"he is bow hunter"
So? Dick Cheney is quite handy with a shotgun, I hear.
To me the main issues in Ryan's Favor:
1)Elimination of the new entitlement, Obamacare (Voted to repeal each time this issue has come up and would break any tie in the senate to repeal)
2)Block granting of medicaid (no longer would be a Federal entitlement would allow each state to innovate), medical tort reform and interstate competitio, and conversion of medicare into an means tested voucher based program thus introducing price and competition into medical care considerations for individuals.
Against him:
3)Like Romney he's a warmonger who never saw a defense budget too large or wasteful or a foreign intervention too outrageous.
4)Voted for TARP and GM bailout, too friendly with the FIRE economy (but so is Obama)
In light of points 1 and 2, and 3,4 I think the choice is clear (Ron Paul, of course then no compromise is necessary) But seriously remember:
Change is incremental-the welfare state didn't arise overnight, dismantling it and restoring individual responsibility won't occur rapidly and without compromise either, but we need to start somewhere. If we become more like Europe we are really doomed. If you are dependent on the state or in debt you are a slave with limited options. Develop your talents and ability, independence and sense of responsibility and don't expect politicians to save the day.
Things are to the point where incremental change cannot and will not prevent meltdown and implosion.
We are already like Europe- 46 of 50 states get back more from than they send to Uncle Sugar and it is all financed with ever growing piles of debt. If interest rates go up the debt playments blow apart, and if they do not the entire social security and pensions systems blow apart.
There is no way out any more, the last hope of that ended years ago.
He is a politician, therefore he is a worthless criminal!
Well better off with Romeny/Ryan then 4 more years with a Socialist Dicktator (misspelled on purpose).
hope you don't have childern of draft age to feed into MidEast war meat grinder with Hebe lover/mormon cultist Mitt in office. Oh yeah- gas will cost a teeny bit more-like $6+ a gallon.
Having kids is a liability .
in the end blood is all you've got
If blood is all you've got, then you got nothing. Families are mostly arbitrary, situational social units. Siblings and cousins do not choose to be related.
Real, voluntary friends and business associations are what count.
business associations- what a wonderful human relationship- joined in the quest to foist (mostly) worthless shit upon another human being . actually I can exactly trace my lineage back 450 years to Luxembourg- hard to say that about some BS business relationship
Having kids is a blessing.
Totally agree. Children are one giant expense.
it's too bad your parents didn't agree before you were conceived in the back of a Waffle House
That's a ridiculous post to suggest that Obama isn't going to take us to war and gas won't be over $6.00 with him. He is beating the damn war drums. Maybe you haven't noticed the fleet gathering in the gulf?
"Maybe you haven't noticed the fleet gathering in the gulf?"
This should be front and center on everybody's mind right now. Nothing else even compares in seriousness. The Middle Eastern war is going to escalate into something much bigger. Possibly WWIII. Very possibly WWIII.
I'm not crazy about Mitt and the GOP crew but compared to the really real crazies that constitute the Dems led by Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Maxine Waters, and all the other incredibly incomnpetent, Communist/Progessive nut jobs of the Democratic Party we really don't have a choice on who to vote for.
We are worried (rightly so) about TSHTF financially but that catastrophic event pales when compared to WWIII. Ryan, whether a good or bad VP pick, is moot. We are faced with either Romney or Obama to lead us in what will very likely be the fight of our lives. Think about that when contemplating where you will put your "X" in November.
There will be no difference between Mittens and Obama. Obama is neocon term 3 and neocon term 4 is up next no matter the spokesman.
Have they finished painting those giant targets on the USS Enterprise? Pure genuis to send that relic to the Persian Gulf. Those 7 reactors will ensure nobody sails off the coast of Iran for centuries.
The only ship of her class, Enterprise is the second oldest commissioned vessel in the United States Navy, after the wooden-hulled, three-masted frigate USS Constitution.
The current leadership is doing everything it can to set the stage for war in the mideast.
You're right, because the Hebe hater/muslim clutist Obummer in office is going to keep it down right? Until he owes on the debt he's accumulated by sucking the proverbial calaphate cock of the middle east.
Dude, grow a medula.
NumNutt red arrowed especially for writing
"better off"
instead of
"as bad".
Right back at you! And I did mean "better off". Shit a three fingered monkey would be better then what is currently running show.
Of course, the devil is in the details; perhaps you could articulate a few for us because I am unconvinced that the use of any positive attribute (comparative, relative or otherwise) regarding the forthcoming charade/gong show is appropriate, much less correct.
And it's Fascist, not Socialist, irrespective of livery.
Wow, by the voting in here it's obvious they have really loaded up the commentaries with Obama Trolls. Obama (or should we say, our government) must be paying at the going troll rate of $10 per comment but probably have to pay $20 per comment in ZH to get trolls who can sometimes write complete sentences. So the Obama Choom Gang must be funding thousands daily just to comment inside one website, Zerohedge, and using our taxpayer money to do it.
We have already gone over the economic cliff. It makes no difference who wins Nov-6. The fiat US Dollar is doomed, nothing and no one can prevent this inevitable outcome.
In hindsight it may even seem inevitable that a socialist society will starve when it runs out of capitalists.
Larry Niven
"You hear that Mr. Anderson? That is the sound on inevitability.."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5m1A7zoIcc
Maybe we need a Neo as Prez. He is the real "one".
I totally disagree! The dollar is not doomed. The only hope the Germans have of keeping the Eurozone (which is the Euro defacto) is in devaluing the Euro. The only way to devaue will cause the dollar to rise in value. The race is to the bottom and the U.S. isn't alone in that!
My comment was part /sarc. But yes, all currencies are in a devaluation race.
Point taken.
Long John is right. It does not make any difference who is elected. It is too late. It may take a while longer but the final chapter is written in stone.
And is it not funny, no matter what you think of him, but Ryan is the only one with more than 6 years of experience in govt. Obama and Romney both have the least credentials. We are so screwed. I wish they would just bring it on so our children might have something. They are starting to get depressed. I hear it a lot. American dream gone. That is sad when you hear it from a group of young Americans in their 20s. Good job Bush and Obama. We have idiots in charge of the asylum.
Another Bullshit fucking candidate to offer lip service. Yeap welcome to Amerika, Lip Service and Stupidity. Sheeples will follow to the slaugher house. Might as well start the gas chambers. Why wait
Why wait? Have you seen the price of gas...
JPM attack Bitcoin, get standing Applause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGEppgLna8U
JPM will discredit anything and everything. Jamie Dimon for Treasury.
never trust anyone with two first names!
like....Ron Paul? Just wonderin'....
Even Ron Paul.
If he's such an anarcho-capitalist, why is he a fucking government official?
And if he's so intelligent, why is he a theist?
Let;s be clear. He is a nutcase Christian Reconstructiuonist masquerading as a Libertarian...and a big group of morons have bought into his illusion.
Cue Leon Russel.
Whenver I say things similar in nature people bug out. Fuck 'em.
The future of Amerika with Young Bitchezzz, Single Moms, House Wifes, Pimping, Prostitution and Drugs.
New economy, start building Compounds with the fucking Mormon in the Whore House.
Does this mean war? If not, it means closer to war - with Paul Ryan and his total commitment to the Israeli foreign policy.
A Romney/Ryan combination is a war compact for the Middle East.
Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
Commitment to unbreakable U.S.-Israel bond. (Mar 2010)
Here are Ryan’s positions on Israel which parrot AIPAC:
Paul Ryan on Israel
“America has no better friend in the Middle East than the nation of Israel. Not only is Israel the region’s only fully functioning democracy, with a government based on popular consent and the rule of law, but it is also a valuable ally against Islamic extremism and terrorism.”
.Sponsored and Cosponsored Legislation
Resolution relating to Israel - Cosponsor
Recognizing the 62nd anniversary of the independence of the State of Israel, and reaffirming unequivocal support for the alliance and friendship between the United States and Israel.
Resolution recognizing Israel's right to defend itself against attacks from Gaza. - Cosponsor
Recognizing Israel's right to defend itself against attacks from Gaza, reaffirming the United States' strong support for Israel, and supporting the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.
United States-Israel Rocket and Missile Defense Cooperation and Support Act - Cosponsor
Authorizes the President to provide assistance to the government of Israel for the procurement, maintenance, and sustainment of the Iron Dome Short Range Artillery Rocket Defense System for purposes of intercepting short-range rockets, missiles, and mortars launched against Israel.
Israel and Iran - Cosponsor
Condemns the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran for its: (1) threats to annihilate the United States and Israel; (2) support of international terrorism; and (3) incitement of genocide of the Israeli people. Supports using all means to persuade the government of Iran to stop building and acquiring nuclear weapons. Reaffirms the U.S. bond with Israel and pledges to work with the government of Israel and the people of Israel to ensure that their nation receives critical economic and military assistance, including missile defense capabilities, needed to address the Iranian threat. Supports Israel's right to use all means necessary to confront and eliminate nuclear threats posed by Iran.
Israel and Hamas - Cosponsor
Condemning the ongoing Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli civilians by Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist organizations, and for other purposes.
http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/House/Wisconsin/Paul_Ryan/Views/Israel/
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm
"Ryan also worked for former New York congressman and one-time Vice Presidential candidate Jack Kemp."
Evidently Jack Kemp passed his kosher knee pads and bib along to Ryan.
Trollbot Alert!!!
Actually it was one of the more informative posts on this thread, try a little harder next time Hasbara Troll.
Yeah interesting pick with Ryan. Mitt's courting the Tea Partiers without openly doing it. He has someone that's gone through the fire with fighting the Unions. He's certainly head and shoulders a better option than Biden.
But yeah on the downside.. TARP, TALF, etc. etc.
Just wonder when the gloves will start coming off between the Red and Blue teams.
Odd that neither have any military experience.
Ryan talks the talk of a small government fiscal conservative. Unfortunately his ACTIONS are the exact opposite.
But hey it is Washington, everyone speaks out of one side of their mouth and acts out of the other.
Nice that his only 5 banks in his top 20 sponsors. A hedge fund is his number one sponsor: Elliot Management. At least Goldman ranks ahead of Koch Industries in top 20 sponsors.
He's austerity alll over and looks kind of gaunt in the cheeks. A little more pork in the diet.
I would vote for Mammon if he would march over to the Fed and drag Bananas out of his seat, stuff him in a cab, and pay for the ticket to the airport.
Pro bailout statist losers everywhere, we are fucked.
Shortin DC real estate.
Short online porn!
Romney/Ryan: Go long HAIR GEL!
Lots of closet dems on this thread--who would have guessed. Alternative to changing parties in the WH, more (lots more) executive mandates, reappointment of the Chairsatan, double down on fiscal stimulus, wholesale retirement of 30% of the practicing physicians in this country and 100% guarantee of VAT for those who pay income taxes. Aside from that, go ahead and throw a tantrum because Romney-Ryan doesn't immediately promise to get rid of the Fed, DOE, Dept. of Ag, Dept. of Homeland Security day one. I think Romney's choice of Ryan is more than a hat tip to the Tea Party and is a tell for all the things that can't be overtly articulated because of the propensity of the dems to twist and lie.
The original leader of the Tea Party, Ron Paul, is against undeclared wars of aggression and Empire. The Tea Party movement was co-opted by people like Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin and Sean Hannity and Dick Armey and Paul Ryan; every grassroots movement worth its salt is co-opted, if possible and with the help of the media, by the status quo.
James E. Miller of the Ludwig von Mises Institute of Canada writes on ZH today: “The institutional predation of the state is supported by a kind of war on reason fought by those who seek most fervently to maintain the exploitive status quo. The objective is enough consent on the part of the people to overwhelm any high-spirited protests. While independent and intellectual criticism is the state’s worst enemy, unthinking acceptance is its greatest ally…
“All it takes to reverse such destructive thinking (judgment is relative based on whodunnit) is the realization that state authority deserves no pass in moral scrutiny. Withdrawing consent comes next on the path to a free society.”
Lot of closet fag republicans walking the streets let alone internet threads. If you support a billionaire mormon dipshit for president and his crony "suck wall st's dick" VP then you have no place in America.
Yawn. How do you spell "pander"?
Several things sure about the future of America, regardless of who wins:
Another false flag attack or HAARP induced catastrophe; martial law; more financial crimes against the 99% (all paper assets of the sheeple get Corzined); FEMA camps or death for all opposition; massive starvation (Agenda 21), Constitution totally subordinate to UN dictat.
Obviously the ravings of a madman, right? Just connect the dots of Obama's EOs, the NDAA, the militarization of local police agencies, the almost total abrogation of the Bill of Rights, and the suspension of the Rule of Law as it applies to the 1%, and you might just see the big picture.
"populist tea party"
ROFLMAO...
maybe...when it very first started.
"Populist" is a term just like "liberal" and "conservative" no one really remembers the original meanings anymore.
What does a VP even do? It seems to me that the only use for a VP is to send the poor fucker to any engagement the big man can't be assed attending.
" on behalf of the potus, I declare this toilet paper recycling factory open! "
John Nance Garner, VP for 2 terms with President F. Rooselvelt, and then ran against him for FDR's 3rd term stated being VP "is not worth a bucket of warm piss". Being a democrat from Texas back then was the same as being a Tea Party Patriot today. While testifying before Congress about something or other, John L. Lewis, communist sympathizer, said of VP Garner he's "a labor-baiting, poker-playing, whiskey-drinking, evil old man." Would that have been true of even one of the current Republican contenders. Hard times are a coming. God Bless America, RICO all banksters, their ho politicians, past and present and IMPEACH the liar, Eric Holder.
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Going to need much more hopium and SNAP cards out of black face now...
Ryan, same o, same o. Wouldn't know a constitutional conservative idea if it was a 2 x 4 wacking him in the head. Same for Romney. The other guys, wouldn't hire those two to run my hot dog cart. Hard times are a coming. God Bless America, RICO all banksters and their ho politicians, past and present and IMPEACH the liar, Eric Holder.
Will be interesting to see if Ryan's view on Ayn Rand will get much play in MSM. According to Poltico, he gave out Atlas Shrugged to his interns and cites Rand for the reason he got involved in public service. Then early this year he rejected her Atheist philsophy. See Politico Arcicle http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79597.html
One certainly can not be associated with an Atheist philosphy and run on a presedential ticket. My guess is that he leans heavily towards objectivism but publicly rejected her philosophy when he knew he was being considered as VP. If nothing else, I would love to see some of the Atlas Shrugged concepts make it into the presedential race - even though MSM will squash any and all ideas relating to individual liberty, self-reliance, and fact based objectivity.
Are you referring to the meat axe, Austrian approach that cuts to bone with crippling personal responsibility, while holding the sword of Damocles of hard work over the head of the middle class and killing grandma so her SS benefits can finance non tax raises on gazillionaires?
No, he's referring to the "don't spend more money than you have" and "live within your means" approach favored by the laws of thermodynamics and common sense.
"Crippling personal responsibility" - spoken like a true obese, lazy, debt-ridden slob who like to attends Flea Markets on his hover-round paid for by a fraudulent diability payment from SS.
"I didn't pay a cent for my hover-round" No, taxpayers did!
I read that BS about him reading Rand and what an inspiration it was to him. Then he votes for fucking TARP? This does not compute. Votes to bail out car companies? This does not compute. Votes for Mediscam Part D the Fucking Donut hole edition? This does not compute.
He is a Newton Gingrich clone, talks stuff that sounds conservative and makes the left hate him, then votes for every progressive bullshit that comes down the pike.
"Every four years the naive half who vote are encouraged to believe that if we can elect a really nice man or woman President everything will be all right. But it won't be."
-G. Vidal
New idea for government. We find a really smart person, force them to become prez. After four years, we vote, and if we are not satisfied with what they have accomplished, we have that person executed, then force the next smartest person to become prez. Repeat as needed.
Any takers?
One smart or pure (as in not corruptable or at least one who resist temptation and co opt) dropped into a shit sewer or stream well comes up covered in shit.
Its the entire system that needs to be taken down as in revolution percipitated by the coming REAL Global collapse - the papering over of the 2008 crisis is nearing its end game - World War as history repeats and perhaps we collectively can clear out some of the dead wood.
Other than that hope for fire and flood, give it up to Mother Nature to restore balance to the clearly out of balanced that have so lost their way.
All right the bull shit flag is thrown into the ring. Clearly some of you HAVE NEVER been TO war. For those of you advocating (cough-hahyperion-cough) for going to war, are probably those fuckng Airsoft weekend warrior dipshits who like to dress up, talk tough, drink a beer and then go home to take a shower to wash off the sweat from a hard weekend of make believe. We call them types - pikers. Now, if you advocate for going to war, enlist or get your commission, and see what war is like, up close and personal. You will get to see the awesome up front and personal waste of life, the sheer terror, and mind numbing images of death and destruction. Once you have had your taste, it will be more then a bellyfulll.
Be very carefull for what you ask for, you just might get it!
Dark Horse 6 (actual) - Out!
I don't see where he advocated for war, he simply recognized the reality that it is where things wind up after massive economic breakdowns. As exhibit A in that regard, I refer you to all of human history.
You should learn to tell the difference between someone saying "I think something is going to happen" and "I want something to happen".
So, you've been to Washington DC then?
FACTS: whatever your political persuasion is, to get the debt down to manageable levels (~ 50% of GDP) there will have to be a 1.5 Trillion or 1,500 Billion ANNUAL adjustment to the fiscal budget for at least 30 years!!
Any combination of revenue increases, spending reductions, or program eliminations that add up to 1,500 Billion PER YEAR will be required to get the house in order, OR the Bond vigilantes take over, spike interest rates to the moon, the dollar crashes, inflation hyper accelerates, and the Dollar no longer the world's reserve currency.
It isn't about politics, folks, that luxury has passed us by a long time ago.
Do something for once for your children and grandchildren and get prepared to make some sacrificies.
Its all about the math, and you can't escape it.
Bond vigilantes? LOL...yeah, right.
None of the debt will ever be repaid. I suggest you come to grips with that FACT and prepare accordingly.
Paying debt?
That's so 20th century.
Ryan can do the math. He is also willing to talk about specifics. Those are two things Obama and Biden are incapable or unwilling to do.
What great choices: a lier and an idiot running for President. Regardless of who wins we can expect the same outcomes, sure they'll use different rhetoric and take different paths but in the end they will continue to destroy the country by making the rich richer and the middle class - gone!
I distrust all of them regardless of party, it should be clear by now that neither party can fix the country and that isn't their intention. More war, less rights, less money, higher cost to everything - this is what we can expect over the coming decade regardless of the political puppets that are used to execute the oligarch policies.
I wonder how many dicks Paul Ryan has sucked, and I mean that iterally as well as figuratively. Zero integrity from the cheese head or his new boss - the idiot tax cheat. Thanks God Obama's administration is not a bunch of thieves and tax cheats [/sarc off]. Obama won't make an issue of Mittens taxes, because it would mean more auditing of his income and investments - which are very likely something he doesn't want out in the open.
I'd vote for anybody that will stop the meaningless wars but that won't happen, instead we are very likely to see increased hostilities - everywhere in the world. Clearly, this is the path our Gubmint has chosen. Using War to mask the underlying problems works, always has and will again - especially here in America. Doesn't take but a false flag to get Americans ready (and wanting) to kill. Let's face it, what good is building weapons systems if you can't use them?
Fucking ruined my weekend having to think about Ryan and Romney.
Ryan voted for NDAA 2012 and 2013
http://www.govtrack.us/search?q=ndaa
Obama = Romney = Fascism
GARY JOHNSON 2012
What's the difference between a Univ of Miami at Ohio grad than a Harvard, Columbia know it all??
Security Clearance?
You my friend, are dillusional, and retarded.
He thinks he is a pickle?
argh, brownback and ryan. a scurvy louse infested captain and his tinkling cabin boy.
they're nominating Sarah Palin, albeit without the moose meat.
A false intellectualized dressed up Dan Quayle - Mitt and mini mitt Elected Biggest Brown Noser in high school - that's rich
Mini Mitt!
Exactly what the country gets when its voters allow, ALLOW yesmen of the thieving class to make their laws.
Ryan was foretold as "Burke" in Aliens.
Ryan and Romney will fuck everyone over "for a percentage".
Can't be any worse than crack head Obama.
Carl Rove will die rich.
And what was up with that music The swelling grandiose music heralding the VP pick would have made one think the clouds were parting and the Messiah had indeed arrived.
Instead, Eddie Munster, voted biggest brown noser in high school, lacking any merit arrives on the scene to kiss more ass. Unaccomplished and unworthy of the VP slot let alone the John Williams orchestration.
I don't understand all of the Ryan hate. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bernanke "thanked for his service" and excused if Romney wins now that Ryan is on the ticket. Like him or not, nothing on earth could be worse than four more years of Obama/Biden.
You don't understand? Did you miss his voting record posted directly above?
Please get up to speed Pete or kindly STFU.
But what point of view are you are coming from? You prefer someone more conservative? More liberal? No one? My first choice for president was Ron Paul, but I'm pretty happy about Ryan as VP. I was going to leave the country if shit for brains Obama was re-elected.
Did you miss Obama's signature on the legislation? The intellectual dishonesty is running rampant in here today. Romney is running for president and not Ryan as far as I can tell.
BTW would you care to publish Biden's stellar voting record? So we could do a compare and contrast.
Vote for Obama or Romney,but make sure you participate.
Why would anyone with an IQ over room temperature vote for either? You cant get a grip on the idea that it is not only a false choice but a bad one- people can vote for whomever they choose and someone endorsing either of those two is a nitwit doing nothing but perpetuating what has taken us to the brink of meltdown.
I want a smaller central government, vastly reduced spending across the board, an end to the empire, and a flat or consumption based tax system- why the hell would I vote for either of those idiots? It is certainly not my fault (but it is unfortunately my problem) that most of the nation are too damn stupid to stop voting for the failed cadidates of failed parties.
Amen.
I actually share that same frustraton. I just don't see third party candidates as an answer. We are left with what we have at the end of the day. I hope it's not too late to turn things around for our country.
OK... but if both parties have clearly demonstrated for decades that they are not the answer- what else besides third parties or non standard candidates is there? One can either vote their principals or be a supporter of what they claim to oppose and I refuse to further enable or rubber stamp the destruction of myself and my kid.
BINGO! Voting for either of them is a mistake. It is flawed logic. Same old Left vs Right nonsense, divide and conquer tactics.
Don't fall for it.
I actually like Ryan but I also know some facts in which I can't support Ryan.
I can no longer support any politician that has bought into the idea that certain corporations must be saved by the government or the whole economy will melt down. They are feeding the TBTF mentality and making the problem worse. They are only delaying the problem much like BB has done with QE. There are other things but this is one of my biggest gripes because it also shows something real important about that politician, that he/she thinks that government is the solution, even when they are talking pretty about the private sector and making government smaller. In other words, they are full of BS. Their actions are not backing up their words.
I agree. Don't get me wrong the votes to bailout rather than go through bankruptcy were wrong. Most having looked back would like to change their votes I think. Accept for one.
Obama just this week said he'd like to provide for all manufacturing the same bailout that was provided to GM.
>>>Like him or not, nothing on earth could be worse than four more years of Obama/Biden....<<<
Uh guess agian.
If you care at all about the liberty to choose in the areas of birth control, abortion, etc...these two jokers on the Republican ticket will make every effort to turn the clock back to pre-1960.
Of course, what is hilarious about this is that they could give a shit less what happens to any kid after they're born...poor kids in particular.
If Obama gets four more years the collapse of the system is all but assured imo. The social anarchy that results will make all the other issues matter very little. You can't keep up this level of deficit spending going with little to no growth resulting.
Ask yourself why no one wants to hire this far in to a "recovery". It has never happened in 70 years this bad of a recovery.
You are an idiot. You can abort all you want dumbass, the Republicans had both houses and the president and you libertards still were kiliing black and brown babies using taxpayer money as fast as you could. Nothing will change in that respect, and honestly, it certainly is not the issue any voter should be concerned with. I think we have a few more important things going on like illegal wars and banksters running the country etc.
abort unwanted banksters
STFU
The only thing that really matters is who will be nominating Supreme Court Justices for the next 4 years. In the recent healthcare decision once again the notion was reinforced that the "choice" the 2 major parties present may not make much difference at all.
Okay. So please explain then how it matters who is going to be nominating Supreme Court Justices.
I mean, first you say that's the only thing that really matters. Then you turn right around and make it out like there's hardly any difference at all, so it doesn't really matter!
WTF? WHICH IS IT?!
Easy there Tin Man. It really matters because of the impact on constitutional law decisions- unfortunately it looks like we will get no real choice (again) this time.
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." — F. Scott Fitzgerald
Hi Jam,
I don't know if you'll see this reply, sorry I didn't make it earlier. But anyway...
I want to let you know that sometimes I pull my hair out trying to figure out what someone is trying to say when they make a statement, then seemingly turn right around and say something that contradicts what they just said!
I think after reading your post again today perhaps I understand a little better, and I like your F. Scott Fitzgerald quote.
However I hope you'll consider the following thought. If we are not really being given a choice again this time(which I agree with), then personally I would have a very strong tendency to say it... does not ..."really matter".
Regards
Been on the road and out of touch the last several days - thanks for the follow up note Tin Soldier. Seems we are in the same realm of thinking all things considered.
This is great... Romney found a male Sarah Pailin. The USA can only get the government it deserves, which is not much.
These actors will take the stage and deliver their lines as scripted.
Debates, relentless coverage, PAC ads, and then the "election".
The curtain will fall and the audience will trundle out to the same reality.
Can't decide which one is prettier.
As always, the choice is between a douche and a turd sandwich. This year, the douche is black and the turd sandwich comes with two slices of white bread. Enjoy.
So who's worse?
Definitely Obama.
There is nothing new.
:)
i dont remember buying a ticket to the WWE
i much prefer the old-school WWF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRdbblelCLo
Ventura/Piper 2012
LOL, and that is precisely what it is.
"And here comes the Chicago Wonderboy off the ropes with a Flying Kenyan Nutcrusher to Dollar Bill, Dollar Dill is reeling! Oh no! Chicago is going to finish him off, he is getting a chair... but wait! Wonderboy's manager Blythe Blankfein Rockefeller comes up behind him and hits him with her gold encrusted cane she uses to walk from the injuries she took from her ambush by The Regulators! Oh the humanity! Blythe is helping Dollar Bill get up! Now he dropkicks the Chicago Wonderboy through the ropes! And here comes Crazy Joe, Wonderboy's tag team partner from the dressing room, what will happen next?!"
The marks in the stands are riveted and whatever the script is, Chicago Wonderboy and Dollar Bill are having dinner and drinks after the show while Blythe picks up the tab and services them both later that evening...