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As Pentagon Sends Reinforcements To Straits Of Hormuz, Iraq Redux Looms

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A few days ago, before the latest breakout in crude sent Brent to all time highs in GBP and EUR (and Asian Tapis in USD just shy of all time highs), we said that "we hope our readers stocked up on gasoline. Because things are about to get uglier. And by that we mean more expensive. But courtesy of hedonic adjustments, more expensive means cheaper, at least to the US government." This was due to recent news out of Iran "where on one hand we learn that IAEA just pronounced Iran nuclear talks a failure (this is bad), and on the other Press TV reports that the Iran army just started a 4 day air defense exercise in a 190,000 square kilometer area in southern Iran (this is just as bad). The escalation "ball" is now in the Western court." We were not surprised to learn that the "Western court" has responded in precisely the way we had expected. The WSJ reports: "The Pentagon is beefing up U.S. sea- and land-based defenses in the Persian Gulf to counter any attempt by Iran to close the Strait of Hormuz. The U.S. military has notified Congress of plans to preposition new mine-detection and clearing equipment and expand surveillance capabilities in and around the strait... The military also wants to quickly modify weapons systems on ships so they could be used against Iranian fast-attack boats, as well as shore-launched cruise missiles" Which means the escalation slider was just shifted up by one more level, as Iran will next do just what every actor caught in an Always Defect regime as part of an iterated prisoners' dilemma always does - step up the rhetoric even more, as backing off at this point is impossible. Which means that crude will go that much more higher in the coming days, as now even the MSM is starting to grasp the obvious - from the Guardian: "The drumbeat of war with Iran grows steadily more intense. Each day brings more defiant rhetoric from Tehran, another failed UN nuclear inspection, reports of western military preparations, an assassination, a missile test, or a dire warning that, once again, the world is sliding towards catastrophe. If this all feels familiar, that's because it is. For Iran, read Iraq in the countdown to the 2003 invasion." And the most ironic thing is that the biggest loser out of all this, at least in the short-term is.... Greece.

As a reminder, here is an update of US naval assets, courtesy of a recently up and running Stratfor:

More on the latest very much anticipated defection from the US in what is setting up to be either the biggest dud of geopolitical foreplay in history, or potentially the start of a new World War (because the Muslim cresent will not take too lightly to any joint or standalone US/Israeli aggression).

The military also wants to quickly modify weapons systems on ships so they could be used against Iranian fast-attack boats, as well as shore-launched cruise missiles, the defense officials said.

 

The changes put a spotlight on what officials have singled out as potential U.S. shortcomings in the event of conflict with Iran. The head of Central Command, Marine Gen. James Mattis, asked for the equipment upgrades after reviews by war planners last spring and fall exposed "gaps" in U.S. defense capabilities and military preparedness should Tehran close the Strait of Hormuz, officials said.

 

The Central Command reviews, in particular, have fueled concerns about the U.S. military's ability to respond swiftly should Iran mine the strait, through which nearly 20% of the world's traded oil passes.

 

"When the enemy shows more signs of capability, we ask what we can do to checkmate it," a U.S. military officer said. "They ought to know we take steps to make sure we are ready."

 

The U.S. is concerned that Israel—which believes that Tehran will soon be able to assemble a weapon, and that time is running short to stop the bid—may choose to strike Iran by this autumn to stymie such a program. That, defense officials worry, could provoke retaliation that could prompt U.S. military action to defend its troops and key allies, and to keep the Strait of Hormuz open.

 

Central Command officials have told lawmakers they want the new mine-detection systems fielded before this fall, according to defense officials, underlining the urgency of preparedness.

 

In addition, U.S. special-operations teams stationed in the United Arab Emirates would take part in any military action in the strait should Iran attempt to close it, defense officials said. A military official said these forces have been working to train elite local forces in Gulf nations including the U.A.E., Bahrain and Kuwait, but added: "They would be used in the event of active operations."

Alas, as our game theory familiar readers will attest, the realistic outcome of recent events is not encouraging:

If two players play prisoners' dilemma more than once in succession and they remember previous actions of their opponent and change their strategy accordingly, the game is called iterated prisoners' dilemma.

 

If the game is played exactly N times and both players know this, then it is always game theoretically optimal to defect in all rounds. The only possible Nash equilibrium is to always defect. The proof is inductive: one might as well defect on the last turn, since the opponent will not have a chance to punish the player. Therefore, both will defect on the last turn. Thus, the player might as well defect on the second-to-last turn, since the opponent will defect on the last no matter what is done, and so on. The same applies if the game length is unknown but has a known upper limit.

For those confused, terminal defection means pushing the "Launch" key. And even mainstream journalists appear to have grasped what has finally dawned upon the energy market (if with the now usual 6-8 week delay):

A decisive moment may arrive when Barack Obama meets Israel's prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, in Washington on 5 March. "The meeting … will be definitive," said Ari Shavit in Haaretz. "If the US president wants to prevent a disaster, he must give Netanyahu iron-clad guarantees the US will stop Iran in any way necessary and at any price after the 2012 [US] elections. If Obama doesn't do this, he will obligate Netanyahu to act before the 2012 elections."

 

If accurate, this is not much of a choice. It suggests military action by the US or Israel or both is unavoidable, the only question being one of timing. Objectively speaking, this is not actually the position. All concerned still have choices. The case against Iran's nuclear programme is far from proven. It is widely agreed that limited military strikes will not work; a more extensive, longer-lasting campaign would be required. And Obama in particular, having striven to end the Iraq and Afghan wars, is loath to start another.

 

But as with Iraq in 2003, the sense that war is inevitable and unstoppable is being energetically encouraged by political hardliners and their media accomplices on all sides, producing a momentum that even the un-bellicose Obama may find hard to resist.

Will Obama truly risk sending gas prices to all time highs month ahead of his election, just in time to send the global economy into a spiraling recession where not even the fabled US decoupling (purely driven by the $2 trillion in liquidity expansion by non-US central banks)? Who knows: however, if he hopes to use the iraq playbook, he may be disappointed. Again from the Guardian:

In some key respects, the Iran crisis is distinctly different from that over Iraq in 2002-03. As matters stand, similarly strident warmongering surrounding Iran is thus hard to understand or explain – unless the ultimate, unstated objective is not to curb Iran's nuclear programme but, as in Iraq, to overthrow its rulers.

 

Bogeymen

George Bush and Tony Blair claimed a moral imperative in toppling the "monstrous" dictatorship of Saddam Hussein. But the much vilified Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran's president, is no Saddam, and neither is the country's bumbling Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The Iranian regime is repressive and sporadically brutal, but so too are many developing world governments. Unlike Saddam's Ba'athists, it has significant democratic and ideological underpinning. As a bogeyman whose depredations might justify international intervention, Ahmadinejad is a flop.

Weapons of Mass Destruction

Saddam, notoriously, had no deployable or usable WMD, but his overthrow was primarily justified by the mistaken belief that he did. The present western consensus is that Iran is seeking nuclear weapons capability, but does not have an atomic bomb and is not currently trying to build one. Khamenei said this week that nuclear weapons were "useless and harmful" and that possessing them was sinful . Netanyahu's belief that Israel faces an imminent, existential threat is visceral rather than fact-based. Israel's refusal to acknowledge its own nuclear arsenal, let alone contemplate its reduction, further undermines the case for action.

 

Terrorism

Plenty of evidence exists that Iran supports, or has supported, armed militants, jihadis, and anti-Israeli and anti-western armed groups in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, providing financial and political backing, arms and training. In this respect, its behaviour is more threatening to western interests than was that of Saddam's secular regime, no friend to Islamists. But limited or even protracted attacks on Iran's nuclear and/or military facilities would not end these links, unless there was a shift of political direction in Tehran.

 

Strategic power-games

Iraq was considered important for its strategic position at the heart of the Arab Middle East and its economic potential, especially its oil reserves. Similarly, there can be no doubt the US and Britain would like to see energy-rich Iran return to the western camp, as in the pre-revolution days of the Shah. Conversely, Iran's military is more powerful and more committed to the defence of the status quo, from which it benefits greatly, than was Iraq's. The potential disruption to oil supplies and western economies, not to mention the impact of asymmetric Iranian counter-attacks, makes a resort to war contingent on producing lasting dividends.

 

Political imperatives

In contrast to the splits over Iraq, the main western powers are united in their determination to bring Iran to heel. As well as Netanyahu, David Cameron, Nicolas Sarkozy and Barack Obama have all declared an Iranian bomb unacceptable. Their inflexibility thus makes war more rather than less likely should Iran refuse to back down. "Having made the case for urgency and concerted action, it would be difficult for Obama to tell the world 'never mind' and shift to a strategy that accepts Iranian membership in the nuclear club," said Michael Gerson in the Washington Post.

Yet while nothing may well be the final outcome, one thing is certain: Greece is in deep trouble. As a reminder, the insolvent country is one of those affected by the Iranian decision to cut off European exports. And as Athens News reports: "Greece relied on Iran for more than half of its oil imports during some
months last year
after traders and oil majors pulled the plug on
supplies and banks refused to provide financing for fear that Athens
would default on its debt."

Major traders are in talks with Greece to supply crude oil and help the country cut reliance on Iranian oil ahead of a European ban, in a sign that they are happier about Greece's creditworthiness following a second debt bailout. Greece turned to Iran as a supplier of last resort last year despite pressure from Washington and Brussels to end trade as part of a campaign against Tehran's nuclear programme that the West says is for arms and Iran says is for energy.

 

Traders told Reuters that Swiss-based Totsa, the trading arm of French oil major Total, and trading house Mercuria were in separate negotiations with Greek refiner Hellenic Petroleum to help it replace Iranian crude. Glencore, a leading Swiss-based commodities trader and one of the few that conducted business with Greece during the debt crisis, may also boost supplies, trading sources said.

 

Two industry source said talks were at advanced stages. A third industry source said negotiations were at an early stage. "If something were to happen, it would be unlikely before summer," one source said.

The reason for the delay? Why certainly that Greece has some money to pay, i.e., passage of the bailout (that Greece won't see a single penny out of it is a different story entirely)

Hellenic acknowledged earlier this week that it was buying oil from Iran and paying for the shipments later, terms known in industry jargon as open credit terms. But the refiner also said that replacing Iranian oil would be "easy" with supplies from Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Russia. Traders expect the terms offered by alternative oil suppliers to be far less generous, as many are still unable to enter into agreements with Greece because of the risk associated with the country's debt.

 

Part of the reason for swapping crude oil for products is that Hellenic is unable to obtain letters of credit from banks because of lingering default fears.

 

"They have liabilities and banks could come in and demand payment," said a London-based trading head who decided not to enter talks with Hellenic, saying it was too risky for his firm.

 

However, Greece's second bailout this week provides reassurance that any crude supplied to a refinery would not be caught up in a messy national default. Hellenic, which has 350 million euros of debt maturing this year and 1.3 billion in 2013, has started refinancing discussions with banks. It said it hoped that the bailout deal would allow Greece to return to markets and ease Greek companies' refinancing strains.

In other words, war or no war, Greece better pray that Europe at least pretend to fund the second bailout agreed upon on July 21, 2011, as otherwise, the country will be out of crude by the summer. Of course, if there is no bailout, the country will also be broke by then too, with rioting and bank runs a daily occurrence. Perhaps seen in this light, a gasoline shortage doesn't seem all that bad...

 

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Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:34 | 2197809 Ghordius
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Sun, 02/26/2012 - 04:49 | 2197301 madbomber
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Sun, 02/26/2012 - 05:24 | 2197304 Bill Shockley
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The decision to attack Iran will be made based on the efficency of their weapons systems. None of us know what they got from the Russians for the billions they spent. Iran is the key to Iraq, it's winner takes all the oil.

If Iran has the best Russian weapons which the Iraqis never had, the US navy faces a dire risk because it has carrier(s) bottled up in the Persian Gulf where they are vulnerable to attack and destruction.

Hopefully our military knows what kind of weapons tech Iran got from the Russians and the Chinese or if there was a nuke tech transfer from Pakistan either directly or via a client state.

Simply stated Iran may already be armed with nukes and a bunch of other very lethal stuff. The US is presently leaving the area because we lost two wars there both militarily and economically. No need to lose a third.

Our forces no longer have the time, money, manpower or equipment to defend themselves if A grade weaponery is used against them. Our supemacy is an expensive myth.

We only terrify each other these days.

We are the enemy.

The world war, if it comes, will start here at home an will be a civil war.

Prepare to defend the constitution brothers.

 

   bill

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:45 | 2197671 Moe Howard
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Here's the problem; neutron bomb.

False flag, we bomb, they have good stuff from the Russians and we take real not false flag losses, the Great Diktator Obama drops a neutron bomb.

We can get the oil later, much easier with no people living there, and the infrastructure is worse than Iraq.

This is what everyone should be afraid of.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:52 | 2197686 Chimerican
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Where will Bama get a neutron? Carter killed the program. If the U.S. does have neutrons, all the more reason to nuke Iran and secure their oil.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:19 | 2197753 lakecity55
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Defending the Constitution is the only war worth fighting now.

I believe the orders given to the illegal president by his Masters are designed to cause the destruction of the Republic.

If fuel goes as high as predicted, the teetering economy will collapse. Abu Hussein's reward will be some high ass position in the UN.

If abu Hussein's power grab fails, the US collapses via civil war. Both scenarios make his Masters winners.

Yet, in their hubris, they often overreach. I prefer a Constitutional Republic to a "world power." We can take care of ourselves.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 05:17 | 2197309 nah
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maybe saudi arabia wants to create a modern form of regional government before they run out of oil lol

.

for the people

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 06:15 | 2197334 falak pema
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The best things in life are free but give me money, black gold money, USD hegemony; diamonds are a girl's best friend and the rocks are now in Tiffany-US battleships. We are on parade in fifth avenue of Oil World; the Straits of Hormuz! 

This is where the buck stops and the world rocks, big time.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:16 | 2197341 NuYawkFrankie
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Re The Pentagon is beefing up U.S. sea- and land-based defenses in the Persian Gulf to counter any attempt by Iran to close the Strait of Hormuz.

Translated from Newspeak:  The Pentagon, whose belligerence risks closing the Strait of Hormuz, is increasing its belligerence to prevent the closing the Strait of Hormuz.

Same logic as with Greece: Increasing the national debt  is the solution to having an unserviceable national debt.

Corollary: The solution to any problem is to do more of the same that caused the problem.

Conclusion: Be afraid of your rulers - very afraid.

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 06:55 | 2197349 Element
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When Europe said it would impose sanctions, but not for 4 or 5 months, Iran had the option to cut them off before then.

They still haven't.

But the same time pressure applies to the US upgrading its capabilities and deployments for next Autumn.

At some point Iran must either surrender, or attack.
 
If they do nothing, at best, they will end up like DPRK, Cuba and Pakistan, in profound economic collapse, and vulnerable to famine, cold and disease, while unable to ever get out of it while the US and NATO remain Boss-Hog.
 
This is not a country nor an alliance (and let's not forget that) that is likely to do nothing.

Welcome to the opening rounds of the global financial/trade-war.

The prelude to the concurrent global shooting war.

==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iyLIebiu__o

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 07:04 | 2197361 Bringin It
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Element - Iran did cut off UK and France and threatened to cut off others w/o long term contracts.  They also said they had no trouble finding buyers [read Asians] for their oil. 

So, what a foolish thing for the ever more impoverished Europeans to do?!?  Unless the US is saying find alternatives now, because the flow will be interupted??  Soon??

Re. At some point Iran must either surrender, or attack.

The West could go broke and convulse in social turmoil if the Persians are patient enough.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:00 | 2197424 Element
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No, not so.  Iran have suspended shipment, pending further developments, but the final decision to cut supply altogether will thus become a European one, most likely due to inaction regarding this interim suspension's requirement of unconditional supply contracts:

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Iran demands European companies compensate for oil blockade
 
24 Feb 2012
 
http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/crimes/24-02-2012/120600-Iran_demands_...
 
Prensa Latina
 
Iran said on Monday (20th) that European companies must pay compensation because of imposing oil sanctions on them. They do not respect the contracts already signed, and warned that oil supplies could be cut to six countries in the European Union (EU).
 
The managing director of the National Oil Company of Iran, Ahmad Ghalebani, said that European governments have passed resolutions prohibiting the purchase of oil from the Persian country, and they are responsible for violating contracts.
 
Ghalebani recalled that Tehran used to export more than five thousand barrels of oil per day (bpd) to Europe, but the volume was reduced, especially after the EU bloc's foreign ministers agreed, on January 23rd, for the blockade to come into force on July 1.
 
On Sunday, the Iranian Minister of Petroleum, Rostam Qasemi, instructed CNPI to suspend oil exports to Britain and France, while Ghalebani today warned of the possibility of applying the same to Spain, Holland, Greece, Germany, Italy and Portugal.
 
In this regard, he said that if those EU nations persist in their hostile attitude to the Islamic Republic, they will cancel the contracts now in effect, and London and Paris will end up the same way, already suffering from high fuel prices of from 103 to 120 dollars a barrel.
 
The government official predicted that oil prices will shoot up to $150 per barrel as soon as Tehran applies similar measures to other European nations. Already on Monday, the highest peak in nine months (since May 2011) on the Asian market was reached.
 
He added that CNPI will accept to supply oil to European companies only if they sign unconditional contracts of two to five years. On the other hand, Iran has already noted a high demand for its oil.
 
For his part, Foreign Minister, Ali Akbar Salehi, exhorted Europe to restore its relations with Iran and work to return to previous levels, instead of the ill-advised decision to add to a campaign of sanctions and threats that the United States leads.
 
Salehi noted that relations "shall not be suspended for a long time" because in his opinion, "not even the European countries may say that they don't need Iran, nor may Iran consider Europe unnecessary, since the two sides mutually complement each other."
 
On Monday, the Italian ambassador in this country, Alberto Brandanini, defended the industrial zone and free trade of Shahbaz Yazdani because of expanding trade cooperation between Rome and Tehran.
 
According to the diplomat, "the anti-Iranian propaganda of some countries has designed a wrong and negative image of Iran," to what he considered a most significant and rich country of the region.
 
Lisa Karpova
Pravda.Ru

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It is of course an awful game.  The serious part is this;

"... applying the same to Spain, Holland, Greece, Germany, Italy and Portugal."

No 2 or 5-year unconditional contract = no oil for you! 

 

i.e. mind your own fucking business EeeewwW or we'll really help push you off the cliff.   I doubt they or their allies would offer the US even that sort of bitch-slap.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 06:49 | 2197351 lolmao500
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And the USS enterprise is going to Iran in the next week or two. Will be there by the end of March if not earlier.

March 2 : Iranian elections.

March 4 : Russian elections.

What will Hezbollah do? What will EGYPT do? Will there be revolution in Jordan? What will Syria do? Will there be big trouble in Saudi Arabia? Will Iran start launching missiles at Saudi-Iraqi oil installations? Will the US government stage false-flags in the US and blame it on Iran? Will Iran active their sleeper cells in Europe/US? Will the government take even more rights away? Will people take it like good little slaves? Will there be a draft? What will China do? What will Russia do?

So many questions, so few answers... no wonder some of the elite are not onboard with this whole BS plan since it could lead us to World War 3.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:26 | 2197475 Youri Carma
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But no matter how you slice and dice it, oil will go up.   btw These are all legit questions you ask and we're only seeing the beginning of it.
Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:10 | 2197922 RiverRoad
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Actually it's a pretty simple story now.  What was that little fiasco that broke out after we slapped an oil embargo on Japan?  Oh yes, WW2.  Finally goaded 'em into bombing Hawaii with that little embargo.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:58 | 2198076 HungrySeagull
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Not just bomb, but invade take islands and convert to jumping off base to support a west coast invasion.

Back in those days it took a long time to transport east to west and nothing to Alaska by road until ww2.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 07:09 | 2197363 Youri Carma
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My ‘deep throat’ sources tell me that the domestic political climate inside Iran have reached such levels of intensity that Iran will be provoked by it’s own population to show some muscle and to indeed close the Strait of Hormuz.

Personally I have my doubts if ‘the country of chest’ will be stupid enough to give the Zionist aggressors a stick to beat them with in mass hysteria Iran acquisitions in provoking a war which will be portrait as such in the MSM while in fact the covert war started years ago.

More strategic in my opinion would be to await a first strike but meanwhile immediately close all oil to Greece to speed up and ensure an European debt implosion which at same time will raise some eyebrows and big question marks around the whole oil sanction debacle which is only just beginning.

‘Deep Throat’ also thinks that a major objective of the planned Iran bombings is to speed up and partly protect an Iranian revolt by targeting the so-called ‘Special Guard’ forces which supposedly will shoot on their own populous when needed.

‘Deep Throat’ are Special Forces peeps is all I can say.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 07:11 | 2197366 lolmao500
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Well my deep throat sources are telling me that 2 F-14s will be used in a false-flag on US ships. Soon. Could be as soon as March 2.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 07:26 | 2197372 Youri Carma
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You are probably refering to this source if not tell me quickly cause than we got seperate sources:

Your last 26 days of life... by clif high  http://halfpasthuman.com/lastdaysofyourlife.html

"On March 2, 2012, the zionists (isreali mossad and cia agents) who are the stooges of the central banksters, will attack an American naval ship (as they did with the USS Liberty).

They will try to sink this ship with a huge loss of life of American sailors.

They will pretend to be Iranians to make you mad at Iran."

I do take him seriously somewhat but I must say that I am much suprised that clif high comes out so stark as he does which makes it more important to pay close attention.

We'll find out soon.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 08:10 | 2197402 Youri Carma
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Well here you have it namely; That's exactly what I would do: Iran stops oil flow to Greece - report 26 February 2012, (RT) http://rt.com/news/iran-oil-ban-greece-247/

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:12 | 2197445 Element
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Perhaps they figure Greece isn't able to pay anyway, thus won't.

So why continue to supply them--what's in it for Iran? 

There's no diplomatic leverage in that case.

But it serves as a hell of a fright for the others.

"That could be me!" ... so ... perhaps this is not a good idea then?

Who's idea was it anyway?

Oh yeah, those zionist guys in the offices of US Treasury's financial terrorism section.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:46 | 2197492 Youri Carma
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Well the info is that the Iranians have been more helpful in keeping oil flowing to Greece than the EU has because they refused to for-finance Greece's oil payments.

This has resulted in driving the Greeks into the Iranian oil supply arms who did provide for-financing.

Now indeed Greece will be again the sacrificial lamb on the proverbial block since they are the most dependant on Iranian oil.

"Perhaps they figure Greece isn't able to pay anyway, thus won't."

Not unlikely at all.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:14 | 2197737 bugs_
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All Xerxes asks is that you kneel.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:27 | 2197790 lolmao500
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Well Iran and Greece are denying the report.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 07:09 | 2197364 lolmao500
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Even as the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog said in a new report Friday that Iran had accelerated its uranium enrichment program, American intelligence analysts continue to believe that there is no hard evidence that Iran has decided to build a nuclear bomb.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/world/middleeast/us-agencies-see-no-mo...

#Iran nuclear advancement causes global concern, reports emerge #Israel considering possible imminent armed response.

Reports: #Israel PM calls emergency cabinet meeting over 'grave and threatening accelerated' progress of #Iran nuke program.

http://twitter.com/#!/Newsinaninstant

Israel has no capability to hit Iran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgiofNVAL-o

Israeli attack on Iran might pull US into new war (Might? are they fucking high??)

http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-attack-iran-might-pull-us-war-131844092.ht...

Russian plan concerning a US attack on Iran revealed

http://polit.ru/news/2011/12/15/warfare/

NYP : the terrorist group who killed the Iranian nuclear scientist should get a nobel peace prize

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/loose_lips_7xvSwHsWqSoIj...

Senate resolution would tell Obama to attack Iran

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/senate-resolution-rule-containing-nucl...

An upcoming report to be issued next month by the International Atomic Energy Agency on Iran's nuclear program is expected to be harsher than the last one, which the IAEA released in November.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/harsher-iaea-report-on-iran-nu...

Foreign Press Rents Tel Aviv Rooftops to Cover Iran War

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2012/02/07/foreign-press-re...

Israel to ask for military facility in Cyprus

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=256844

Israel embassies preparing for Iran strike

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4186799,00.html

Russia, by defending Iran and Syria from Israel/US are defending the world from fascism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3bf1H9EZfU

Pakistan to support Iranian retaliation if Iran is attacked

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4185684,00.html

This ain't gonna end well...

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:40 | 2197652 john39
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Achmadinijad is right, the world has changed right under their feet. They can't see it however and will press ahead with their plans for world domination, and in so doing, will meet their end:

http://www.presstv.com/detail/228736.html

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 07:40 | 2197380 davood
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"And Obama in particular, having striven to end the Iraq and Afghan wars, is loath to start another."

What a load of crap.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 07:44 | 2197384 Canucklehead
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I am amazed.  In breezing through this thread you find a great deal of emoting by minds you would not expect to be able to cross the street without assistance.

If this is the context and breadth of intellect backstopping the anti-war movement, the neo-cons have won handily.

Iran is toast.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:00 | 2197438 AnAnonymous
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Yes, do war on war.

Signed: a US citizen thinker.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 08:34 | 2197415 Vigilante
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Obama should never apologise for the burned korans.

Unless he knows something that we don't.

..because let's face it zerohedgers,we don't have access to those secret meetings where the overlords are planning their next move.

We can only do informed speculation.

..and ,by the way,everything is under control no matter how 'crazy" things seem to be.

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 08:59 | 2197435 AnAnonymous
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As usual, war on words.

So what?

Iraq in 2003 was bleeding from attrition, strangled by years of US citizen siege. Hundred thousands dead as a result, drugs washing in to weaken the Iraqis'resolve etc

Iran in 2012? Where has been the siege?

US citizens wont invade before laying a painful and devastating siege.

War on Iran has already begun, the moves taken by US citizens are war moves. They are stepping up to the siege stage, which is war and attacks from the exterior, lobbing missiles, flushing drugs, special forces strikes and the rest...

Invasion? Not for tomorrow.

In their quest to appear for what they are not, that is peaceful people, US citizens have stripped war from many of its aspects.

Besieging is no longer war.
Lobbing missiles from the exterior is no longer war.
Asserting aerial domination is no longer war.

Only landed invasion is war.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:30 | 2197480 Element
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It's called, 'normalisation'.

Citizen Orwell warned us; 

We've always been at war with ... <insert variable country name>

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:11 | 2197450 eddiebe
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False flag event bitchez

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:11 | 2197452 f16hoser
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How dare they not buy/sell oil in US Dollars! It's all about the FIAT Dollar....

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:11 | 2197453 f16hoser
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How dare they not buy/sell oil in US Dollars! It's all about the FIAT Dollar....

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:17 | 2197462 I am Jobe
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More war bitchess. USSA has nothing else left to tell the sheeples as the sheeples are too stuid to understand the world. Kepp playing with IPDAS and IPHONES and watch the fucking grammy's and everything will be a ok is what the MSM want.

Too many fucking inbreds

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:18 | 2197463 I am Jobe
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The Military Always Needs More Taxpayer Resources

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/106386.html?utm_medium=tw...

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:21 | 2197471 eddiebe
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Hey, let's not play the blame game. W Bush

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:29 | 2197482 Global Hunter
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the bankers need to sacrifice some more white, black and hispanic kids as they're sent off to kill brown people.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:34 | 2197485 Sandmann
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Since they do not read Arabic coudn't they simply show their First Amendment Freedoms by showering incendiary Korans across the region ? Or won't Saudi Arabia pay the US military for these features ? It is so patently obvious that Saudi Arabia has hired the US Navy and the British are simply gagging for Saudi Subsidy which is why Cameron dropped  the Jewish National Fund charity in London to algn himself with Muslim Money

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:57 | 2197498 Element
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Ah ... the next wave of propaganda escalation and bitch-slappin' fun;

--

Despicable is Hillary Clinton

26 Feb 2012

 

Hillary Clinton is an interesting case study. She started four years ago as a charming Secretary of State, the smile on the snout to wipe out the snarl of her predecessor, Condoleezza Rice and four years on, she appears on camera butch, a trucker-type probably complete with tattoos, insolent, inconsequential and incompetent. We now understand Bill.

 

What happened to Hillary Clinton?

 

Her credentials for the position of Secretary of State were never that great; let us be honest: someone who lied on camera for all to see about getting off an aircraft in the middle of a war zone in Bosnia in the 1990s when in fact she arrived to a red-carpet welcome, complete with band playing... Since when is a red carpet and a band a war zone?

 

Right...

 

And now, the Chief of Diplomacy of the United States of America imitates her representative at the UNO, Susan Rice, in insolence, calling Russia and China "despicable" for spoiling her war plans in Syria (and beyond).

 

Insolence is indeed the mainstay and the keyword behind US diplomacy, intrusion ditto and hypocrisy has to be the toothpick in the throat of those who try to expound Washington's virtue on the world stage. And let us be perfectly frank. Hillary Rodham Clinton had a very easy passage before her as the outwardly visible sidekick of Barack Obama, elected after eight years of a Bush regime which confirmed all the worst nightmares of the conspiracy theorists. Did she pull it off? No she didn't.

 

For someone in her position, to label the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China as "despicable" because they exercised their right to block NATO's evil desire to make another Libya out of Syria, is a clear sign of how low US diplomacy has sunk. In fact, it is difficult to discern which of the last three Secretaries of State is worse: Colin Powell, with his lies at the UNO about Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction; Condoleezza Rice, with her justification of Georgia's murderous attack against Russians and now Hillary War Zone Clinton, responsible for Libya and desperate to press further eastwards as she holds the hands of those whose human rights records are...in a word...despicable.

 

Despicable are those Gulf Royals, unelected, but in power, and accepted without a word of contestation by Clinton and Obama and company, some of whom allegedly go to Morocco and perform the most horrific sexual crimes with boys and girls...despicable are the leaders of the Gulf States favourable to the USA and its allies siphoning off their resources, which have carried out the most draconian measures against their citizens.

 

No mention from despicable Hillary War Zone Clinton.

 

Despicable is the United States of America and its policy of torture flights, on which CIA operationals carried out barbaric acts against detainees; despicable it is to flout international law, invade sovereign states and destroy their civilian infrastructures with military hardware.

 

Despicable it is to maintain concentration camps, a festering wound on the collective face of humanity and a profound insult to human decency. Despicable it is to sodomise detainees; despicable it is to urinate in food, despicable it is to deprive detainees of sleep, despicable it is to water-board people, despicable it is to force Moslems to eat pork.

 

Despicable is Guantanamo Bay concentration camp, where the worst human rights violations in Latin America are perpetrated by the United States of America; despicable was Abu Ghraib concentration camp in Iraq, where the great American heroine Lynndie England was let loose on people who had been imprisoned without charge but hey! "just havin' fun". Despicable it is to detain people without due process, without access to a lawyer, without access to family visits and without even an accusation.

 

Despicable it is to arm terrorists overseas, as was the case in Libya and as is the case in Syria. Despicable, then, if we analyse with a modicum of intelligence, is Hillary R. Clinton and the hellhole that she represents.

 

To prove my point, in how many of the human rights violations mentioned above were Russia and China involved?

 

None.

 

Thank you. I rest my case. Hillary War Zone Liar Clinton: YOU are despicable.

 

Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

Pravda.Ru

--

 

I think we can say at this point that the giant 'reset' button did not take.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0GdLClHAMB0

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:08 | 2197607 hardcleareye
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A Pravda editorial, I love it!!!  Not seeing a lot of difference between the NYT and Pravda these days! lol

Hillary is a "talking head", she is not making the calls, her master's are.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:18 | 2197751 djsmps
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Pravda is the National Enquirer of Russia. I'm sure there was also a story in the same issue about a two-headed pig.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:50 | 2197861 goforgin
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The New Pravda=The New Der Strumer. Slap an arm band and a mustache on Putin and you got a 'dead ringer' for Hitler.

The irony is that Pravda is now the mouthpiece of the Russian neo-nazi movement: the Russians embraced an ideology that labeled them as subhuman and only useful as slaves of the Aryan master race; but, it is also ironic that this paper as an official voice of Russian Communists now became an official voice of the Russian Nationalists, racists, neo-nazis, anti-Jew anti-Muslim etc. movement.

The irony that this paper calls Hillary Clinton despicable should not escape anyone reading this DESPICALE rag!

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 18:04 | 2198745 earleflorida
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+ 100

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 18:05 | 2198751 Cathartes Aura
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ahhh, yes, the power of pre-scripted gender traits. . .

Hillary Clinton is an interesting case study. She started four years ago as a charming Secretary of State, the smile on the snout to wipe out the snarl of her predecessor, Condoleezza Rice and four years on, she appears on camera butch, a trucker-type probably complete with tattoos, insolent, inconsequential and incompetent. We now understand Bill.

so Hillary used to be a charming lady, but now is a butch-lezzie, and this is how we understand Bill's ever-unzipped-fly.  because Hill was supposed to keep his "cigar" continually pre-occupied, that was her "job."

yeah, if only the womenz kept the war mongers from fighting. . . ha!

flip the story, pretty easy to see how Hill is not impressed with Bill, either.

a pox on all their sex-parts!

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 22:17 | 2199293 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Cathartes Aura said:

a pox on all their sex-parts!

Ummm...you may be a little late on that.  ;)

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 23:54 | 2199574 Cathartes Aura
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*fingers crossed*

~.^

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:51 | 2197503 TradingJoe
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Dumbama is a clever shill, he won't risk a war during election time/year, neither a "too high" oil/gas price, so NO WAR until he's back in "control"..which we all know he never was...his handlers YES but that's another story!

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:42 | 2197658 john39
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dumbama has no say in the matter.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:12 | 2198113 RiverRoad
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Dumbama could use a nice little war going come reelection time.  The sheeple don't like to change horses in mid-stream.  That nice little war in Bosnia worked for Clinton, but in the end it's the Fed's call.

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 06:54 | 2199979 Element
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Remember the incredibly clumsy dork that Bush was before 9-11?

Remember the flag-waving gun-slingin' ultra-popularist superhero dimwitted uber-twat that emerged 1-week after?

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 09:59 | 2197517 yogibear
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The leaders of the New World order need a diversion.  What better excuse for seizing more total control then a renegade nation. With world banksters leading Greece and Italy. Why stop there.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 10:40 | 2197538 Money 4 Nothing
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I said this 5 weeks ago listed below and took shit for it, now MSM.

 Iran is not building a nuke war head. Pannetta confirms true.

1. http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/12194

2. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/world/middleeast/us-agencies-see-no-move-by-iran-to-build-a-bomb.html?_r=2&hp

Israel will make first move. Covered in this story.

We will be at war between March 8th or the 20th without a doubt in my mind. But, that's just my opinion.

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:11 | 2197613 rwe2late
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 If the road to war is taken, it will most likely begin through Syria.

Syria is a softer target for Israel, and is already under "international" attack.

Any ramifications considered should take into account the divide-and-conquer Sunni-Shiite schism, and Chinese-Russian crucial interests. 

http://takimag.com/article/why_assad_has_survived#axzz1mPSpmsm6

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 10:57 | 2197591 j0nx
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I think everyone here is ignoring how the American people will take to another useless war at our financial expense. Simply put, the people won't accept it and there will be serious political ramifications to those pols who back this. Expect major riots and demonstrations in DC if they start another war for no reason. The people simply won't stand for it, particularly if it creates gasoline issues.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:45 | 2197670 john39
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sadly, part of the plan is to literally destroy what remains of the culture that built the united states.  The US is being sucked dry of wealth and resources.  when that process is soon finished, the locusts will move on and collapse what is left so that people can't be a threat to them.  that is the plan anyway, now lets watch it (the plan) collapse.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:01 | 2197711 goldfish1
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The people simply won't stand for it

The tv tells the people what they will stand for.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:14 | 2197738 djsmps
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All this talk of war. It's OSCARs night.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 18:47 | 2198847 IQ 101
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We have not been to see a movie for YEARS! and I like movies, but all they make is stupid shit, or is it just me?

How about a movie where Iran attacks Isreal and the next day everyone in Iran is dead or dying because Isreal has Mega Nukes? It would be a true story based on real world facts, known by everyone with a pulse?

Or is it just me? Iran is more likely to turn Buddist than attack Isreal, national suicide is not on the Quorani list of things to do to day, blow yourself uppy jihadis would take years to leave the building, one at a time.

Where comes from this argument, threat, implication?

The Wall street Greed machine got away from the owners and went off the reservation, now they need some convincing theater to distract from the truth and Iran is standing at stage left, a pro-actor.

They have fucked up the markets beyond repair and desire to produce a rabbit from a hat, Iran is the red, silk rag you should observe while said bunny is produced,I mean, what will people think if they find out that their retirement funds are in the NEGATIVE? A shit storm may occur, banksters and politicians could be arrested for Theft, Treason, War Crimes, Crimes against Humanity, Fuck! that can not be allowed.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:35 | 2197811 RiverRoad
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j0nx:

Oh they'll have a reason alright; they always come up with some jingoism as a cover.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:16 | 2197614 gnomon
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duplicate

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:15 | 2197618 gnomon
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Anybody who does not understand that Iran is rabidly intent on assembling nukes, deploying nukes, and announcing it to the world to gain supremacy in the Persian Gulf is STUPID.

Then couple that fait accompli with their long-stated goals, and you have a NIGHTMARE situation.

Sometimes there is no good solution.  That is where we are at.

You Obummer/Ron Paul retreads are just SO predictable, So highminded.  And always the end result is that you masochists would rather bare your/our throats and go down in flames than possibly oppose EVIL.

There are gradations of Evil.  We have our share of it here, but it is a toxic stew over there.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:43 | 2197641 john39
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good story man.  the world is due for new leadership, I say we give the Iranians a chance. they can't be more evil than the psychopaths who control the U.S. and Europe through Tel Aviv.   as far as trying to dominate the ME, how many military bases do the iranians have outside of Iran...    contrast that with the 40+ U.S. military bases all around Iran, on the other side of the planet from the United States....    you see, we are opposing evil, we just are not fooled anymore as to who really is evil.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:00 | 2197707 goldfish1
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No, you're STUPID.

No, YOU're stupid.

NO YOU"RE stupid.

no, you're STU pid.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:15 | 2197714 hardcleareye
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I can see the Supreme Leader of Iran say to his fellow Iranians, who "would rather bare your/our throats and go down in flames <or> oppose EVIL."

"We have our share of it here, but it is a toxic stew over there." ROTFLMAO

The situation with Iran (middle east) will only be resolved when we reduce our oil consumption, several ways of doing this... innovation or population reduction.

All out war is a great population reset.

 

edit forgot to add <sarc> on that comment

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:38 | 2197828 RiverRoad
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Please, Iran doesn't need nukes of their own; they've got Russia for that.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:25 | 2198167 rwe2late
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gnomon - opposing "EVIL"

Hahahahaha ROTFL

US xenophobes always believe they are just a shade better than the imagined worst of their imagined “enemies”. And if sometimes they slip, and do undeniably worst than even the imagined enemies worst … why then it is an accident, a fluke, regrettable, but “our” intentions were “good”.

Motives of power and avarice are dismissed. The sociology of institutions and corporations run by an elite few is ignored.

The need to critically examine the motives of OUR leaders is rebuffed as “unpatriotic”. The need to critically examine what our leaders say is threatening is rejected as “unrealistic”.

“We” are just so damn good that whatever we do, however mistaken, however base the motives, must always turn out to be the “best” possible outcome.

And surely, the only way to keep “us” safe is to suppress all possible threats, domestic and foreign. In short, “we” must become all-powerful, with full-spectrum dominance, and everyone else must be powerless, without even the potential of ever causing “us” harm.

Once all of what our leaders say might threaten “us” has been eliminated, when complete full-spectrum dominance has been achieved at home and abroad … then liberty and freedom will flourish (provided of course that would pose no security risk).

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:40 | 2198226 gnomon
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It is a two-front war for "we the people".  One "war" is against Nations that would kill as many of us as they could, given half a chance, (Iran/China for example).  And there is another "war" against those trying to gut the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  Nobody said this would be easy.  And we have few allies.  And those of us who could be allies are fractured and dispersed.  

 

BUT NEVER GIVE UP.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:59 | 2197702 goldfish1
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Per the LATimes blog:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/letters/la-le-postscript-israel-iran...

"Iran and Israel: Who's the bigger threat? Israel has the bomb, and Iran doesn't. So why should the Jewish state fear a nuclear-armed country in its neighborhood?"

some good comments in the 97 respondees

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:19 | 2197757 hardcleareye
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Interesting opinion piece, but the link did not have the comments you reference (would have liked to have read them).

By the way Pakistan is part of the Middle East and they too have nuclear weapons.

There is some thought that the Saudi's have nuclear weapons, Riyadh is thought to have seriously helped Islamabad (Pakistan) financially in developing their nuclear program, ergo Saudi has the bomb (and most likely with the US blessing).

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:51 | 2197867 RiverRoad
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The sooner everybody has the bomb over there, the sooner the subject will be moot.  Then the biological arms race can start.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:05 | 2197913 hardcleareye
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lol, you forgot <sarc>

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:09 | 2197725 Yousif
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  1. A war with Iran will run contrary to all the decisions that have been made by a certain lobby in London and the United States for the last thirty years.  The Iraq-Iran war is full of examples of such decisions.
  2. If American pawns do "follow orders" and "just do their job", then Kissinger was definitely right about them.  Look at what happened to your predecessors, those of them who are still alive and aren't on a thousand different perscriptions.  There is nothing in this for you, your loved ones or your tax farm.

I just want to apologize to all the people who had to become pawns for the corporations in order to survive.  This is very regretable indeed and it saddens me that the situation can't be remedied quickly.  What a shame.  Wasting your lives so the Rothschilds can buy bigger yachts.  Pity.

As for government trolls, I don't need to say anything really.  You could, perhaps, tell us what if feels like to be a door mat?  What a waste of space.

This is not the world I want to live in, and I know I am not alone.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:25 | 2197763 hardcleareye
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Your condescending bullshit is dully noted and valued for what it is. <previously editied vulgar comment>

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:15 | 2197739 In Fed We Trust
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Who is Tibet

And why is ge in jail ?

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:17 | 2197749 booboo
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Where is Richard Armitage, that will tell volumns on what will happen.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:41 | 2197838 hardcleareye
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Oh Yeah Baby...  Russia's tellin' us they want to kick our ass in the worst way, a little saber rattling is good for the Russian oil and gas industry cash flow.... 

Remember the "Russian red alert" a few month back when we moved our carrier just outside of Syrian waters?  The only US media (besides ZH) to report this in a timely manner was the LA Times (back page and quickly buried), hmmm wonder why <sarc>?. 

Besides just like the US, Russian Leader are also facing elections and are looking for a way to distract the "sheeple"...

One thing to "bully" little old Iran and other thing to involve Russia and maybe China (haven't read any saber rattling from them, anybody got creditable links to China's position on this), hmmm how about India's position on this (US military conflict with Iran)?

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:16 | 2198139 earleflorida
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China is a strong ally of Pakistan, and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

Russia is a strong ally of both India and Syria.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:40 | 2197833 gnomon
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Envisage two parallel universes, one in which we do nothing, the other in which we act.  I guarantee you that both roads lead to war with Iran, except that the second road is one in which we act on our terms without them having nukes.

This is a clash of civilizations, a fight to the death.  It was last recognized as such in the 16th Century when the Islamofascists were last beat back from Europe's threshold.  

If one does not take a side, that is the same as surrender and eventual subjugation and death.  

If you revile the civilization that gave birth to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, you will reap the whirlwind from those who have no brake on their actions, operating from a tyrannical mindset with no qualms about either genocide or armageddon.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:01 | 2197902 hardcleareye
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Our military is presence in the Middle East for one reason only, OIL.

The comments about tyranny, the bill of rights, etc are pure propaganda. 

The end game is about access and control over that critical natural resource, OIL. 

And to that end, given the cards on the table, war is inevitable.

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:19 | 2197947 gnomon
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Come tell me that the Constitution and Bill of Rights are pure propaganda in a future world in which Pax Americana no longer exists.  The tyrants around the world would have your guts for garters.  Pax Americana keeps the sea lanes open and the oil supply and other goods flowing.  Imagine the Persian Gulf nations ON THEIR OWN achieving that feat!  It would be a free-for-all, much as we see with the Arab Spring ravaging country after country with no end in sight.  

You are one more masochistic fool, except in one respect.  War is probably inevitable.  

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:50 | 2198054 RiverRoad
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The Constitution, unfortunately, has been pimped to pieces by TPTB.  And the Fed isn't "federal" at all. It should be called the Priv or maybe Privy since it is in fact a private club.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:42 | 2197845 desinova
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Where's Colin Powell and his slide deck?

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:54 | 2197873 gnomon
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And some of those WMDs that Hillary is screeching about in Syria, if secured, will be found to have come from Iraq.  And if you dig some holes in the right places in the Bekka Valley in Lebanon, you will find some more.

Regardless, one "supposed" miscalculation should not neuter objective thinking about how we can best proceed to avoid the CERTAINTY of Armageddon down the road.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:58 | 2197891 Sandmann
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Yeah...Hillary....the woman with attitude......Wellesley Woman pushing the rights of women in Libya, Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar........or not......

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:11 | 2197924 hardcleareye
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Hillary=Lady MacBeth

Lady Macbeth:
The raven himself is hoarse
That croaks the fatal entrance of Duncan
Under my battlements. Come, you spirits
That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here,
And fill me from the crown to the toe topful
Of direst cruelty!

"asking to be stripped of feminine weakness and invested with masculine resolve. She imagines herself as a vessel which may be emptied out and refilled "from the crown to the toe." One thing nobody, spirit or otherwise, has ever poured into her is "the milk of human kindness"

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:56 | 2198276 falak pema
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I can understand her bitterness as her vagrant hubby was filling all the coeds on the block with his well of human kindness and hubristic honey. He had a good role model : JFK !!!

Pity she didn't take it out on him, like Clytemnestra on Agamemnon, instead of taking in out on the world...playing Lady Macbeth on steroids. These DSK types have all the fun  and die not from womanese scorn but hubreese cheese...not like the smart guys who eat the honey and starve the hubris. But that is a subtle game of male modesty. Stay loving, stay hidden. 

One could write a novel on that theme! 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 18:13 | 2198773 Cathartes Aura
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most "insider" females are fully aware that it's the little boys, and otherwise, that keep the "insider" males privately pre-occupied. . . everything else is just for show.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:22 | 2199055 lakecity55
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Yes, and they will be labelled "made in USA" or "made in USSR."

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:56 | 2197881 Sandmann
Sun, 02/26/2012 - 12:58 | 2197894 loveyajimbo
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Anyone noticing that Big Oil is raking in the additional profits with both hands with all the jawboning about a straight closure and war? President YoMama is not releasing any strategic reserves, so one might think this is all bullshit for profit... Change We Can Believe In!!  Is Bush still there... in blackface??

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:35 | 2198001 RiverRoad
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This IS bullshit for profit:  It's Big Oil taking their money up front so (on marching orders from the Fed) they can lower the price for Obama's reelection.  Happens everytime folks.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:40 | 2198021 RiverRoad
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Also the tizzy over the possibility of war makes a great cover for a bunch of government heads getting themselves reelected over the next several months.  The sheeple are always afraid to change horses in mid-stream....This garbage with Iran hits a lot of nails on the head right now.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:02 | 2197905 FrankThinkTank
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$10 says Iran has no intentions to "weaponize" their nuke by Western military standards

Suitcases, bitchez.  

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:27 | 2197968 earleflorida
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Since 2003,... Iran has seen the writing on [10 yrs] the wall. They too, would be getting an unpleasant calling card from the American West as an-axis-of-evil-participant. Knowing and witnessing their many neighbors - that have been literally destroyed, or dissected by covert actions [ngo's] and disposed of accordingly for the good of the indigenous people, was surely coming their way - as that of a perfectly timed, but out of character, amorphous sirocco.

Just as Bhutto was deposed of, and hanged [1979/ Kissinger?]  in Pakistan [AQ Khan] because of "NGO's" [covert maximus] and having given Pakistan the  capabilities, and know-how of making an Islamic Nation the first in the world with Nuclear Weapons, was simply unheard of , and never,ever, was this to happen, period! Israel found out, and was going to bomb them. But, the USSR was on the warpath and into Afghanistan at the time all this came about [timing is everything?], therefore the U.S. [Carter was gone and Reagan was in charge now] rather than place sanctions and threats upon Pakistan, looked the other way, in order,... as to have Pakistan their strategic ally geographically in the region. Soon, all Pakistanian nuclear proliferation ambitions, and nasty thoughts of having the bomb were gone,... swept under the rug for another day - poof! 

Iran's, Ahmadinejad could end up like Bhutto of Pakistan as the 2009 elections were rife with "NGO's fomenting anarchy. He has to be very careful. Personally, I don't think the guy is a nut job, rather a very smart individual that dearly loves his country [jmho]. 

Finally, I believe, that Iran has nuclear warheads, and can, and will deliver them if needed. The United States knows this as well. Israel's intelligence can't hold a candle to america's clandestine network of spies, period!

If Israel were to strike  Iran preemptively, the United States would actually have to go after Israel for fear of Iran launching a Nuclear attack.

Remember, that until Pakistan became a Nuclear club-member, India would push them around like "Garbage". This will never happen again. Why? 'Having the Nuclear Bomb you need not know the strategic importance of having one. The value lies in its possession, and not in its use!'

jmo   

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 15:24 | 2198362 Jack Burton
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Much of that is brilliant analysis. All I am not sure of is Iran having a bomb. I don't think they do. But I do believe, for the reasons you give, that Iran needs the bomb. About 50 would do, but they could be like Israel and build hundreds to threaten Europe with as a guarantee of their security.

Simply put, Israel has promised to take out Europe is Srael goes down, Iran could pull the same stunt. Actually, both Israel and Iran have no good reason not to carry on just as now for the next hundred years. Both secure, both at peace. One must ask, "Who really wants this war?" Somebody does!

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:14 | 2198020 NorthPole
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The WSJ article is actually pretty funny :) The very first sentence talks about.... Wait for it....  'US defenses in the Persian Gulf' :)

I've read the comments there and it appears most of Americans are monumentally brainwashed - no one noticed the unintentional humor.

I happen to hail from the ex-Eastern block and I am old enough to remember the Soviet propaganda. Believe me, it was pretty similar. The Soviets also had defensive forces in Afghanistan, in Poland, at one point they got their hopes high to build up defences in Cuba, they were defending Czechslovakia and Vietnam... As a matter of fact I cant remember if they ever attacked anyone.

There's more: the official propaganda talked how the oppressed working class in the West will eventually wake up and lead the final , what they called, 'War for Peace' (sic!) against the Western Imperialism. And it will be a Just War because the West is Evil (TM). And why is the West evil? Everybody knows why, comrade! 

 

The jokes went, well, there will really be the War for Peace, but the peace will be of the 'one cannot find two stones one on top of the other' kind. But I digress.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:38 | 2198218 Sandmann
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I remember the old Izvestiya cartoons with rich plutocrat bankers and HATO portrayed as warmongers and gangsters........then I thought it absurd.......now......

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 13:55 | 2198065 gnomon
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NorthPole,  Are you an unreformed Stasi engaging in a bit of disingenuous agitprop?   Go back to Russia and lick Putin's boots, if we are no better.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 15:13 | 2198124 NorthPole
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US IS better than Russia - US does not behave with such utter contempt for human life like the Soviets used to (Stalin alone killed 20 million of his own countrymen, during peace). US is ruling its satellites much more cleverly, with financial strings and only an occasional murder.

But Russia is learning. Slowly.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:04 | 2198097 JohnKozac
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How much is this military stuff costing us each day?  Wouldn't "diplomacy" be a little cheaper?

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:11 | 2198119 cosmictrainwreck
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LOL.... cannot be counted, but machs nichts.... just goes on the credit card, like everything else

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:37 | 2198212 Sandmann
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Cheaper but you but less profitable for them

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 14:10 | 2198101 slewie the pi-rat
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PASTE: The U.S. is concerned that Israel—which believes that Tehran will soon be able to assemble a weapon, and that time is running short to stop the bid—may choose to strike Iran by this autumn to stymie such a program. That, defense officials worry, could provoke retaliation that could prompt U.S. military action to defend its troops and key allies, and to keep the Strait of Hormuz open.

just MSM dot-to-dot fun!

again

same shit, different day is = all that is here

what are the know-it-all MSM cum-lickers missing today?

  1. china has taken the role of superpower-in-chrage (for now) in syria
  2. they are gonna proceed diplomatically, democratically, and pluralistically, inviting all parties to sit and talk
  3. then they will define the possibilities and put the question(s) to the voters
  4. they have "hired" kofiAnon to chair the inter-arab dialogue
  5. this is being done under the UN

of course, there is no guarantee of successs, as it is MUCH easier to burn a house down than to construct one properly

even at home, this is true!

russia and china are now iran's allies-in-commerce.  thus we see china's abilities and "heart" beng tested around the mess in syria, under the auspices of the NWO.  this would lead one to the "suggestion" that this "bullish4oil" MSM-regurgitated bullshit, and the false dichotomies derived from bibi's visit to the WHouse next month are REAL?

now, that is funny!

more realisic to slewie is the role that china will play in what is left of the arab "revolutions" and also IN IRAN

it's pretty hilarious that china is not mentioned even one time in this "western" analysis;  or did i just miss it?  the 'stabilizing' dynamic of china's role in the present and furture is being downplayed, "hidden from the shitheads' sight" by the media since it is neither bullish for iranian oil nor inducive to the MIC budget-building-bid-ness

as i tried to tell people last year, this shit was decided at very high levels, around the BEGINNING of the "no-fly zone over libya"; so, this was finalized about a year ago, imo, at the UN highest levels

what we are seeing now in the "implementation" of the agreed-upon superpower "hege-monies"  

even tyler is starting to see the win-win-win-win (US-israel, china, iran, EU) without the guns clearing leather at the OKCorral b/c (i think) he can conceive that the moQ's oil is no longer going to china, but to the EU and iran's oil is earmarked for china & russia, not the EU

perhaps if you think: goodCop/badCop = china/US-israel, you will start to understand what slewie is trying to get across, here, and just how "different" it is from the MSM "politician-oriented" story

so thxz to tyler & zH for allowing me to put my nonsense up here with the "heavyweights"

sabre-rattling is TPTB shaking their money-makerz.  not that there's anything wrong with that...

my mission, should you BiCheZ ever get clear enuf of your MSM conditioning long ebuf to recognize it, is to "interpret current events" in a manner which will enable folks in the US-irael, britain, the EU, iran, china, russia, and elsewhere to think:  let's give peace a chance

we may be getting rear-ended, financially, by these fuking glorious commie asswipes, but maybe we don't hafta start killing eack other over who gets boned, next!

until some 'terrist' lights a match, this structure can be built!

or, we can all go drStrangelove in a geo-political re-set.  but it seems the doc-tors-in-charge of the "patient(s)" like to keep things surgical, or at least attempt to keep things "contained"

in the bankstering wars, we should be so lucky, BiCheZ!

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 15:33 | 2198403 oldman
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Slewie,

Nice post as always.

If it is controlled or managed----Great! I hope you are right and I am just too old to deal with this news.

And, hopefully, it does not slip out of control like the rest of these geniuses plans. This is the thing that makes this feel different to me----'one of these days' comes too often for me.

Thanks again, dude       om

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 15:56 | 2198444 ekm
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Slewie and Oldman

In 1930 the depression happened because of international protectionism and tariffs. No goods were were circulating around the world. It is this simple.

Nowadays, US Navy GUARANTEES WORLD TRADE. That's the main job of US Navy, world trade. Hence the very strong presence is South China Sea. Since 2009 China has demanded that US Navy leaves South China Sea as it is deemed as China territory of influence. It came to a point the the admiral of US Navy was interviewed on Bloomberg. He basically said FUCKOFF CHINA.

I'd like to repeat again, the reason we do not have world depression right now, it's because of US Navy making sure that oil, food, plastic toys etc, go from point A to point B to point C etc.

That's their job and they are doing it very well. It's got little to do with waging war.

As clarification, I am not american. I am european and canadian with dual citizenship. I'm just being crudely realistic and I am grateful to US Navy for securing world trade to go on. Canadian Military is also heavyly involved particularly as part of NORAD. Greatful to them also.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 18:59 | 2198870 slewie the pi-rat
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so the banksters teach and preach, mrMSM_ekm

you have a 2-angled bi-flection ofReality, bro!  not that there's anything...

let me take navy thing:  without going into how much we need this whole gay navy thing in the first place, let me simply put out the obvious: 

  • they do this to keep tigers away
  • but there are no tigers in these parts!
  • see?

re the bankster "tariff" propaganda V. the "freeTrade" propaganda, i would invite you to familiarize yourself w/ what the archDruid/idiot himself said about just exectly that subject, a few daze ago!   (LINK+++===>>>):  tao<<

let's try to keep exchanging ideas, ok?

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 19:18 | 2198929 ekm
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Thx for the feedback. Love debates.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 19:35 | 2198953 ekm
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Oh, I've read a lot of that theoretical crap. I care about the CURRENT REALITY only. And in the current reality, USA absolutely rules.

Since US$ is not backed up by anything of value, gold, oil, silver, anything, the only value US$ has right now is PURE STEEL. Steel from F-18, from submarines, aircraft carriers etc. If it weren't for being the world policeman, US$ would have been trashed a long time ago. Most of the world preferres USA vs China, hence they have to pay for protection via buying US Treasuries.

It is a simple as this.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:21 | 2199051 slewie the pi-rat
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well, at least you realize that the "tariff" stuff doesn't need to be pushed here

plus, you are now responding to the several-week "empire" theme of the archDruid's analyses (LINK+++===>>>):  tao<<

you can believe whatever "background" makes you comfortable;  no currency anywhere is "backed" by anything, that i am aware of

who pays for what, how, is i great subject, but we haven't the lube for it, today bro!

the chilling truth is that we are too far along in this process for anybody to clear leather and fire a fuking a pea-shooter!

the only exception to this, which i have already written about here on zH, would be a carefully-orchestrated israeli bombingStrike to atomiZe some "uraniumEnrichmentPlant" in iran, followed by iran firing a few "missles" the israsel/palestine direction, landing who-knows-where

this would have a wunnerful propagananda messages that iran is now "nukuler-free" and israel don't take no arab tongue-waggin posturing, neither!  L0L!!!  and that iran can shoot, too!  by golly!

so you might get a short, meaningless, orchestrated, firworks show.  or not.  either way, slewie knows the script, BiCheZ!   now, about that bridge...

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:27 | 2199063 ekm
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I envie your writing skills. Talent is talent, something I can't buy.

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 01:19 | 2199764 oldman
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Dear EKM,

"It is a simple as this."

That is what we always say and a lot of time it is like that.

However, whether you are playing Russian Roulette or building nuclear 'failproof' nuclear plants the consequences of any surprise are fatal. My point being that these issues have so many unknowns that the events can not be predicted with 100% accuracy and the complexity of these events can spin out of control beyond anything imagineable.

I have had so many opportunities that have somehow gone askew for what seemed unfathomable before the event, but that have escaped the track I had for them in my mind; I think we are seeing just this type of event too often where the stakes MIGHT BE longterm damage to the very structure of human society.

The idea or war the way we play at it these days is ridiculous on its face; the cumulative environmental damage is beyond calculation not to mention the cost of its restoration and the direct human costs are way on the other side of 'affordable'----

I don't want to go on about this anymore----some simple hard thought on this issue would cause it to be abandoned as anachronistic.

Let's hope that there is no war at this delicate time for humans---we are no longer as resilient as we were just ten years ago, even though the invasion of Afganistan and the US's decision in its aftermath were the beginning of the end of the US as a respected entity among all nations.

Let's just not do war this time, please                     om

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 15:17 | 2198335 Jack Burton
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What, the Navy just realized how vulnerable they are to anti shipping missiles? God help them. What have they done with all the money they have been getting?

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 15:57 | 2198467 ekm
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STRONGLY RECOMMEND ZEROHEDGE TWITTER FEED RIGHT NOW ABOUT G20 COMIC MEETING.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 17:33 | 2198690 jack stephan
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Zapp Brannigan: Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or his new way of looking at things.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 19:05 | 2198896 slewie the pi-rat
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L0L!!!

here, we just go toe-to-toe so we can both "evolve" into proto-plasmic+holed soap manufacturers? 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 17:43 | 2198705 theprofromdover
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I guess it isn't the right time for a Camp David summit with the 3 parties then?

I'm sure Benji, just before he meets the Bammer, will want to address Congress again. Get a few standing ovations from the hollow men again.

History is going to be very harsh on some people.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:37 | 2199086 lakecity55
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How about a Gay Camp summit where all these dudes fauck each other up the ass and leave the rest of us alone?

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 18:54 | 2198869 Bansters-in-my-...
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The "Pentagon".
I have heard of this USSA Criminal Terrorist Organization before.
It would be nice to disappear them.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 18:55 | 2198872 DutchR
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Strange that nobody mentions the upcoming elections (march 2) in Iran.

 

 

 

 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 19:17 | 2198926 ekm
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Kudos.

It is a possibility that this is all for internal consumption hoping that the population will vote for the current regime assuming they will steal 15% of the vote. If they lose even if they managed to manipulate 15% of the vote, they're dead.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:37 | 2199089 slewie the pi-rat
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what iranian in his/her right mind would change the goobermint at this point?  you really think the voters are that isolated, styooopid, propagandized, ignorant, and beaten down?

Hahaha!   maybe you're "projecting"!

or mebbe you know there is a new goobermint waiting to take over via an election, now?  maybe in another year or three.  not this time, imo

great MSM regurgitation of "possibilities" tho! 

man! forget the trees!  look at the freaking forest here!  please!

also, please consider not watching tv for a few weeks and getting your "news" from your own self-designed "onlineNewsPaper" ONLY

if all you know are stateDept-approved "stories" about what's happening, you need to get away from TPTB-controlled "media" a lot more, imo

everything is so negative about those who are not clearly on "your" side in the "global conflict" is kinda the archetypal tip-off, ya know?  dude? 

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:46 | 2199105 ekm
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Slewie

I have not had a TV set since 2001. It's been 11 years TV free. I watch soccer and basketball in bars and pubs. (I watch only sports that I play).

However, I am addicted to internet. My source of news is INTERNET. I collect information and make my own conclusions about life and money. Sometimes it matches conventional thinking, but most of the time it doesn't.

I have one great talent I love in myself: I love pissing off people by means of debates since that's how we learn, by fired up debates.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 21:44 | 2199210 slewie the pi-rat
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well, ok.  how long have you been following MSM online?

i mean you are coming up w/prez0"today"&hallucinating,&tc...

change you "favorites"?

are you an "embed"?

i will try to have yen/cross adopt you!

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 02:00 | 2199779 oldman
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Dear EKM,

I'm surprised at:

"I love pissing off people by means of debates since that's how we learn, by fired up debates."

I will just ignore your comments from now on----the attitude above is symptomatic of serious damage as a human------maybe YOU should go to war.

If you want I will pay for your flight to Iran and a sidearm----then you piss real people off in their faces and see how funny it is and how much you can teach them.

Please seek help, my friend                         om

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 19:01 | 2198890 Bansters-in-my-...
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Israel is NOT an allie to the USA,it is the USA's Master...

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 19:18 | 2198930 Bansters-in-my-...
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$109.62 A BARREL......

Them pesky oily green shoots.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 19:33 | 2198950 lakecity55
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I have a great idea:

J J Cale and Eric Clapton.

Fuck the NWO.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 19:41 | 2198960 ekm
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/46523219

This is what US Pres said today. Click above. "No silver bullet to solve crude oil prices..."

Unless he's playing games with Iran, I have 2 for him:

- Forbid crude oil leveraged trading if delivery is not taken. (we're talking about 97/100 dollars are levered). If not possible, just limit the positions.

- Allow leveraged margin trading only if done by a crude oil business, like refinery, drilling company etc.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:43 | 2199100 slewie the pi-rat
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as a friend&colleague,

STOP!!!

  1. watching television!!!
  2. now!!!
Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:48 | 2199109 ekm
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Check my response further down. I have no TV.

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 22:09 | 2199213 slewie the pi-rat
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as long as down is up, perhaps the converse is true?  L0L!!!

i know!

i tried for an intervention, but your MSMshields are up?

anyhow, i tried & i appreciate your comments;  addictions are tough  L0L!!!

i personally take more time and effort writing for zH than is "reasonable"; but for me, reading all this stuff is the "payoff" + getting to publish w/ tyler, here?    ...priceless!

you were kind to compliment me around the writing and that "envie" indicates (to moi) a possible MSM-induced-writing-blockage, pierre

change your "scan" setting to noMSM at all for 1 week;  if i am correct you will think new thoughts; perhaps theMuse will pay you a visit, too? 

interventions are interventions, pierre.  just stfu and go to re-hab!  i don't wanna hear no "n0,N0,NOOO!!!"

peace

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:34 | 2199079 lakecity55
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Ring! Ring!

"Hello?"

"It's time for a game of Solitaire, Barry."

 

Love,

Wo Fat

Sun, 02/26/2012 - 20:59 | 2199126 Tuco Benedicto ...
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 "another failed UN nuclear inspection"

 

I may be missing something but I was not aware that Iraq had "failed" any inspections!?  As a matter of fact the establishent rag the NY Times says there is "no" evidence that Iran is building a bomb.  Wow, this is crazy shit!  Bye bye truth.  Bye bye liberty!

 

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/30/iranian-nuclear-weapons-mohamed-elbaradei

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 15:55 | 2201388 RichardP
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... the NY Times says there is "no" evidence that Iran is building a bomb.

The New York Times would have to be all knowing in order to make such a statement.  They are not.  That statement actually proclaims that the West has not found any evidence.  That corrected statement makes a much different claim than what you quoted - there is no evidence.  Without inspector access to everything, it is possible that evidence exists but the West just hasn't found it.  That is the significance of the latest Western mission being denied access to a physical location.  We can now only say we have found no evidence.  We cannot say, when being denied access to physical locations, that no evidence exists.  That is a logically indefensible statement.

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 00:18 | 2199637 Just_Another_User
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Obama cant declare war & he cant risk even higher prices at the pumps. So expect a lot of jaw boning til after the election & for him to play the stategic oil reserves card this summer.

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 02:08 | 2199833 Dow 36000
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This means stocks are going up....right?

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 08:48 | 2200072 kralizec
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"...the Muslim cresent will not take too lightly to any joint or standalone US/Israeli aggression."

The whole purpose of this posting summarized in a nutshell.  Yup, can't go around pissing off those peace-loving Mohammadan's!  Peaceful, reasonable and mentally stable describes them to a "T"!

(rolling eyes)

Fuck the pedophile-practicing genital-mutilating murder-cultist Mohammadan's!  May demons rape and torture them for all eternity!

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