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President Obama: "If You've Got A Business - You Didn't Build That. Somebody Else Made That Happen"
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There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.
So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together. (Applause.)
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"If You've Got A Business - You Didn't Build That. Somebody Else Made That Happen"
Dear Mr. President:
If you have taxes to spend- you did not earn that. Someone else did.
p.s. Someone else is going on strike, for a very long time. Good luck.
Once again, you’ve cut to the chase, Kayman, proof that genius is the ability to reduce the complicated to the simple, leveling Obama and the socialists with a one-two punch of humor laced with intellect.
Happy Sunday! my friend.
You are reading too much into it. He is just the guy they hired to distract the proles while his bosses loot the treasury. Nothing complicated, really.
Sociopathetic jive, how the fuck would these career politicians have any idea how business is built? None of them gamed the system on the own either, they used the mob, the CIA helpers, whatever was around to get them through life without ever having created any REAL value, other than creating crisis for the people.
If you don't pretend to be in it for the little guy, then how can you get their votes?
Well, that's easy Bob. Simply make shit up about death panels, birth certificates, grade school indoctrination, faux McCarthyism, etc., and indirectly suggest the president is a communist Muslim nigger terrorist from outer space or Africa or whatever, and that he's some sort of devilish villain character who wants to "take you to a place to get slaughtered."*
Then pay millions to sharp-tongued, shameless carnival barkers who are willing to subvert true journalism and compromise their professional integrity, all for the chance to prove their allegiance to various capitalist super-pigs like Roger Ailes.
Now, depending on how dumb and gullible the audience is, some or all of this shit (see first paragraph) might actually be believed, especially if that audience (like the Tea Party) is eagerly looking for a reason to HATE him. They can't hate him because he's a nigger, 'cuz that sounds too racist and subtracts from their credibility on actual political arguments. So now the Faux News viewers can replace the word "nigger" with all the political villains in history, like Hitler or various communist dictators who are universally loathed. (Because let's be honest here, referring to Obama as Hitler is just a subversive way of calling him a nigger, right? George W did far, far more to undermine the sanctity of our freedom and/or the Constitution and no one ever called him Hitler, Marx or whatnot).
A particularly shrewd carnival barker on Faux News can even turn this shameless propaganda into a 60 minute pseudo history lesson, complete with chalk boards and flow charts. Now, all the racist Tea Party freaks can hide their subconscious nigger animosity behind the smokescreen of being born-again Constitutionalists and American history buffs. Like zombies on command, these born-again Constitutionalists rose from their Lazy-Boy recliners, pushed their Swanson Salisbury Steak TeeVee dinners to the side, and for the first time in their lives, marched through their communities to the drumbeat of their carnival barking masters.
I want my country back! At age 62, I suddenly care about the Constitution! Amuuurica is under attack by evil progressives and GAYS!
Anyway, circling back on topic, it's really easy to get the little guy to vote for a particular candidate, even if that candidate represents an ideology or promotes policy that makes life for the little guy worse. Distract him with death panels. Scare him with faux-McCarthyism. Find a little known MILF from nowhere USA, dress her up in a "Sexy Flight Attendant from Piedmont Airlines" costume,** and have her talk about moose hunting and Jesus.
Don't worry about the little guy, Bob. There's a massive, multi-billion dollar propaganda machine that's got him covered - brain washed, fluffed dried and neatly stacked on the Murdoch pedestal.
* Actual Glen Beck quote, Faux News 11-3-09
** Credit to Matt Taibbi
There's too much truth in all you say. Yet, as you say:
That horse left the barn at least 16 years ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996
That was Clinton's great stroke for fascism.
Problem is that Obama's not worth fighting for; think about it, if he's the oligarch's worst case.
Now that's genius.
If we're going down, I just as soon it were Rmoney that gets the blame at this point. I'm thinking of voting for him just for that.
Nice rant. Too bad you are so full of shit you chew when you talk.
Quoting you above: (Because let's be honest here, referring to Obama as Hitler is just a subversive way of calling him a nigger, right? George W did far, far more to undermine the sanctity of our freedom and/or the Constitution and no one ever called him Hitler, Marx or whatnot).
REALLY? Nobody ever called George W Hitler? REALLY? What bubble do you live in? I bet you have a picture of Che where Catholics have the picture of Jesus in the hallway. What a stooge you are.
I'd bet a significant amount of money that Bush was called all those things more often than he was referred to as "The President".
Honestly...My neighbor thought he was the Anti-Christ and he was going to destroy the world. Not shittin' ya....I would just nod silently in agreement with a serious look on my face.
When I first started here, I thought MDB was the most epic troll of all tme. However, I have since realized that you are Juvenal to hiw Swift, Voltaire to his Lesage. You are the alpha, and the omega of trolling. Thumbs up sir! Bravo!
This apprentice has stepped aside, and now the master appears!
I concur, wholeheartedly and without reservation.
Nah the master makes people laugh, which is the hardest thing to do. MDB for Dictator of the World!
Nah, MDB is occasionally witty and well-versed with sarcasm for comedic effect. Max has been educated far beyond his level of intelligence; kind of a real-life example of what happens when you send a turnip through medical school.
Here's a little trip down memory lane for you of photos of people claiming 'Bush=Hitler' from 2003 through 2008.
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612
Correct. The man never had a real job in his entire life, much less actually tried starting a business. How absolutely profound is the ignorance. Stunning.
Marxist in Chief comes clean...guilty gullible supporters scratching their heads muttering they didn't know.
Well at least he finally admitted the ObamaCare mandate is a tax on the young & healthy.
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/07/obama-uses-the-tax-word-to-describe-mandate-128921.html
Pardon, the ObamaTax mandate...now Georgie is vindicated.
FUCK YOU OBAMA! MOTHERFUCKER!
Are you frustrated by your own inaction and left to shouting on a comments board to release your guilty tension.
Hugs (cos you need one)
Hurtful words followed by faux kindness -- you'd make a fine re-educator at the FEMA camps or a top notch public school teacher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U
How is it hurtful to offer advice, we all need advice from time to time, i dont post on here to contradict others, its more of a sharpening stone for my mind.
I offer advice and i read others advice, its by debating the merit of the argument that you educate youself and others regardless of who wins the argument.
An i think shouting 'fuck you obama' is a debasement of any argument you may wish to make, ZH is meant to be more than a bunch of people shouting fuck you at each other.
IMHO
I see no advice in the statement to which I responded. One can act as if one is taking the high road but when the performance depends on an obvious lie the effect is greatly diminished.
I asked the guy a question.
He did'nt answer me.
Don't move the goal post. First you said that you offered him advice. Now you say that you asked him a question. Which is it and are you confused or just unscrupulous?
Damn, looks like that sharpening stone ground that razor edge mind into a dull caricature.
20 down votes?
I'm just showing you a glass slipper, You're the one who says it fits.
30 weeks on ZH. And socialist troll conterpoint at that.
You will have to grow more whiskers to survive here.
Don't worry Obama will help, wouldn't want total incompetence to go unrealized.
I have no problem with this at all. Much of what he said is correct.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMVj7fLVSng
Of course YOU don't, because you are a socialist creep.
Did you click my link? You really should, it's good one especially for libertarians.
No partial credit given. Either with us or agin us . . .
Too complicated for commies to understand, I suppose.
Yes, Gene loves Marx. That is his story in an nutshell.
Somebody needs to take him under their wing and bring him to the next 5 Minute Hate.
Is it my fault Greenspan went out of his way to prove Marx right?
I enjoy reading many social theorists actually. Ortega Y Gasset, Gustav LeBon, Freud, Baudrillard as well as many others.
Why do you hate books?
You do realize that Greenspan was the head of a Marxist institution, right?
Plank 5: Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
I love it when you people write off your complete and utter failures as belonging to the other side. It's like watching a worm squirm in the daylight.
Why do you pretend that those with whom you have disagreements are not well read? It's a tactic which reeks of intellectual dishonesty and personal weakness.
It's an extremely common liberal tactic on web forums. They have a rampant need to discredit anyone who doesn't agree with them rather than argue against their ideas. What better way than to ascribe ignorance to a stranger on forum of strangers? This passes as valid debate with Obama-bots.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you have a "Obama/Biden '08" bumper sticker on your car. Am I right!?
maybe you should read up on Stalin and Mao, ... give yourself a little balance.
Benjamin, Adorno, Horkheimer, Marcuse, Fromm, Habermas, Lukacs, Gramsci, Althusser, Lefebvre, Bloch = many others?
With the possible exceptions of the first two, they collectively constitute a pretty good reason to hate books - their own books, that is.
Most on ZH know free markets are a textbook fantasy, but using Noam Chomsky as your baseline does not strenghthen your socialist fantasy.
That you know better than me what I need is the heighth of arrogance.
Socialism or Criminal Bankers, it is all about tyrants and the capture of words.
He only left out one word "alone".
Otherwise he's right.
Useful tool typo's himself to useless fool. Ever wonder why the Great Orator just can't get anything right?
"-- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own."
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help"
"we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."
"We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, "
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...true amongst cronies. ...plea / appeal to crony.
Let me be the first to say, this guy is an absolute moron of all morons. The most ego-centric narcissist to take a breath on this planet. When he says 'we', he really means 'I'.
Some say the Republicans are no better. I challenge them to justify this by comparing this guy's idiocy with anything in recent memory from a Republican.
Disclaimer: I am a libertarian.
Ironic. I don't doubt your claim, I just find it ironic in context of what is being said.
Of course you are man, of course you are.
disclaimer:
i am a human being
fuck this corrupt system and all who support it or make excuses for it
i am a human being
Of course you are, John, of course you are.
I'd rather have Obama clue all the rest in that he is a Marxist like his father so I could stop arguing the point. It's obvious to me but others I guess don't want to believe they have been mislead.
In what meaningful way is Obama a Marxist? Please give detailed examples from past four years.
How about that stirring Marxist speech he just gave right at the top of this page?
What worries me the most about our Liberal population is how utterly foolish they are to buy into the promises and hope of their leaders while never fully considering the consequences. "Yes Mr Politician, take my friends taxes to give me free healthcare and effectively double the power the central government has over the whole country, what could go wrong?" They live in this fantasy that all their commie policies can possibly do is make things better because that's all their handlers condition them to believe. We're doomed because these liberals are everywhere and they don't even know how utterly foolish their "hope" is.
The "conservative" candidate did the same thing to his last constituency.
You used the quotes correctly, that's for sure. I don't want Romney. I want him more than I do a far left commie like Obama but that's not saying much. With liberals there is literally nothing that is impossible to pass and have their SCOTUS stooges deem it constitutional as long as they want it.
With Romney though, and I still don't know why he got nominated, but at least he's consistent on State vs Federal rights. That's a real tangible thing to have "hope" in but that too could be fleeting. On a constitutional basis, Romneycare was sound since it was enacted at the state level. It was the state doing what a state should, keep it within the state. Time will tell if Romney is just another Bush in terms of spending but i doubt it if enough libertarians and tea partiers get elected, they wont let him.
You think you found something Romney is consistent on? Just give him time, some more money and power.
You're wasting your breath. They will probably vote Romney because he's the "lesser of evils" because he says what they want to hear. Obama and Romney are both fascists. Speeches like the above are designed to divide the population. Worked extremely well on the mindless people who posted here about John Galt etc.
For over 100 years we have been provided with only evil choices. Some are more evil than another but in the end all we've gotten is evil. I've come to the conclusion I will see and experience the collapse in my lifetime. I have hedged accordingly.
How's that? I'm not voting for Romney or anyone else for that matter.
Yes you are. LTER is a wizard and can see both the future, and read intent on the part of others even when it runs counter to every single thing they have ever said.
How about the NDAA law signed on new years eve. Obamacare another very questionable constitutional law in which all are being told you must buy this product. I could go on ...
The part where you connect it to Marxian theory is missing. I'll wait as you gather the necessary material.
For a guy that dodges direct questions all the time, that is quite funny.
And what is your obsession with Libertarianism anyway? Creepy and trollish.
I'm concerned that useful idiots will spark a violent upheaval against themselves and bury the few voices of sanity left.
Consider it a citizens duty. File it under The Freedom To as opposed to the juvenile libertarian notion of freedom.
They are holding all the cards. Our best and probably only real course of action is to be superior morally and superior in responsible action. The criminal elements of society need to be made obsolete through superior moral action.
Shame we can barely get anyone to agree on anything...
Says you!
A violent upheaval is whats needed. The sooner the better
But of course that would offend your delicate sensibilities
Right. Because people don't own themselves. Frederick Douglass was just a whiner. Like Obama said, just because Douglass worked as a carpenter didn't mean that he deserved to keep the fruits of his labor. The woman who owned Douglass had a right to that money. It takes a village to raise the lash.
Yeah, and its radicals like Lew Rockwell that scare you? LOL.
You really are a fucking tool Gene when it comes to misrepresenting the Libertarian view.
How about just this Friday when he did yet another end around on Congress with welfare reform passed in 96?
Very totalitarian.
The Department and Health and Human Services announced the agency will issue waivers for the federal work requirement of the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program — considered a central facet of welfare reform in 1996 — Thursday.
The “Information Memorandum” states that the agency will be issuing waivers for TANF’s work participation requirements for parents and caretakers as a way to find new approaches to better employment outcomes.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/13/hhs-to-offer-waivers-for-tanf-work-requirement/#ixzz20i4rdNc8
I believe the saying is, from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
and Reese Witherspoon stars in the remake of "Clueless" ... complete with executive order and drones flying over the head of American citizens.
Is it ironice that Alicia Silverstone starred in that movie? Not Reese.
could be a case of irony ... what is ironic is your spelling and not my fondness for the clueless.
Now you're moving the goal-posts and you've slipped up here, because, as you astutely and accidentally note, Obama and his coterie are indeed much more like (because they are in fact a brand of) contemporary Marxians than classic Marxists - of any "school" or period - up to that which emerged in US academia beginning around the time of the Vietnam War.
I'll boil it down for you.
Try to keep up, because this is some pretty profound stuff.
It is his use of "we", in the nebulous sense. Now, run and get your Cliffnotes or Idiot's Guide to Marx or what have you and read until you come to "we".
Then stop.
Every week Obama shows he doesn't care about the constitution and the law. By giving a million Illegals a free pass and work permits when just a year ago he said he didn't have the power. By removing from CIA and FBI training manuals anything that mentions Islamic supremist as our enemy. By giving Eric Holder protection from prosecutiion on Fast and furious or from releasing documents that would certainly prove that Obama and Holder are much deeper in that coverup then they want us to believe. Just a few examples of Obama acting like a dictator and not a president.
You didn't make an argument. Jeez... On certain articles, all the ideologues come out of the woodwork... Can't we all just agree that the economy is going to collapse? Bitchez?
We can, but if we don't know why, it will either not recover, or will fail again because we didn't learn our fucking lesson.
The free market generates cartels? Banking cartels are the worst of 'em? Childhood brainwashing victims edit the outside world so they don't have to humble themselves and admit they were wrong? People are too proud/self-righteous generally? The Private sector is composed of individual contractors, small businesses, monopolies and cartels, yet people still talk about it as though it is homogeneous? Americans elect businessmen to positions in government and expect what??? The world is a business, Mr. Beale-- it has been since man crawled out of the slime. And The biggest of the big don't like competition. There are ways around that. Dick Cheney ran the world for 8 years. Now Obama (read banking puppet) runs the (shit) show.
List examples.
If you are ging to talk about free market cartels, please list examples from the US between 1875 and 1913, which was the year we made the transition from a free market to a mixed market. If you wish to talk about problems with the mixed market, then list examples of mixed market cartels in the US between 1914 and 2007. If you want to talk about problems with fascist cartels, then list examples in the US between 2008 and today. I don't know the dates for transitions between the various systems as they occured outside the US, so I ask that we limit discussion to the US for now.
I was aksing questions. Why did the transition from free market to mixed market take place? I understand that is when the Federal Reserve Act was signed into law... It was written by bankers who didn't want a free market. That is my whole point. The point at which the cartel is generated is the point at which it stops being a free market. Cartels are not generated by the mixed market, the mixed market is generated by cartels (whose components are generated by free markets.)
Also, "free market cartels"?? WTF is that shit?
Your questions were incomplete clauses, the first of which seemed to indicate that you believe that free markets generate cartels. I merely asked that you list examples, and bounded the discussion to the time frame where the US had something closely resembling a free market.
Let's not split hairs here. A free market cannot have a cartel in it. The moment it has a cartel it ceases being free. Also, listing cartels is tricky business because they are not monopolies-- they do not have names/titles, etc. This is for obvious reasons, if the people knew there was no competiton, or the regulators knew... well... the jig would be up. It is imperative that a cartel keep its operations clandestine! Absolutely imperative! Also, since cartels don't play by the rules, they are not cut and dry as a monopoly. But the Federal Reserve is a cartel. The military industrial complex is a cartel. The Big 4 banks in the US are intimately connected to the FED (BofA, citi, JPM, Goldman). Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon, Chevron, and BP contitute a cartel. The business of their "business" takes place behind the scenes so as to appear separate compaines who compete... but every cartel is different. Some get the gov't involved, and some don't. It depends on your connections. But cartels always existed, whether they be bean cartels or sugar cartels or coffee cartels or oil or banking, or tea or spice. They don't have names though... thats the tricky part. The list goes on.
Yes, it gets easier and easier to find cartels as you slide down the slippery slope of mixed markets from freedom to fascism. Now that we are there, we find cartels in practically every major industry. Whether banking, oil, automotive, financial, media related or any number of others.
It's a nightmare.
I tell ya, they are going to dust off Hank Paulson to demand $700 trillion for his criminal friends ( or else I plug the kid ).
Substitute the word "moron" with evil. These people are just like the Bolsheviks who were puppets for the bankers.
i am glad my father who founded our co over 55 yrs ago didnt have to read that. that burden fell on me.
WHAT? Al Gore did not invent tne internet, how can that be he invented it before he invented Global Warming credits.
Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
Ummmm. No, it didn't.
Thank you for stating that. I was hoping someone would hit that.
BTW love your blog! Do more videos.
Hey, Obozo, people for the last several decades built a business IN SPITE of the U.S. Goobermint. Under your so-called Administration, it has become IMPOSSIBLE.
Nice job, you f__king moron!
Also, what the hell do you mean the Internet was invented by the U.S. Goobermint? Are you calling your Democrap buddy Al Bore a LIAR?
What a total piece of nonsensical garbage that will appeal to his firm base of UNINFORMED, UNEDUCATED, and totally CLUELESS bipedal idiots!
"Yet this government never of itself furthered any enterprise, but by the alacrity with which it got out of its way. It does not keep the country free. It does not settle the West. It does not educate. The character inherent in the American people has done all that has been accomplished; and it would have done somewhat more, if the government had not sometimes got in its way." -- Thoreau's Civil Disobedience
who is Elizabeth Warren or any other avid communist. He just made Hugo Chavez blush.
No mention of putting your life savings on the line in order to start a business. Food stamps for everyone.
Mental patient.
Mental patient.
Equal rights and equal results are mutually exclusive. Excuse me now, I'm going to go throw up.
The all American con man got here through Bill Ayer’s (Communist) , George Soros (Gangster Communist, Atheist), the communist party and all the gangsters at Goldman Sachs and has repaid them many times over, Get rid of this menace!
+1 except for the atheist bashing, that was uncalled for. If you think communism and atheism go hand in hand you're ignorant.
Choom Wagon time
what an asshole, an absolute horses ass. my dear departed mother (recent) said that if she saw him on the sidewalk across the street she wouldn't even bother walking across the strret to meet him
If I saw the freak I would do my part by turning the wheel and hitting the gas.
also... truly sorry for your loss. Your mom sounds like good people
The liberals child as come home..... ha ha ha.
So who built the business for that "somebody else"?!
Ask that Koch brothers.
Always helps when you add a link:
http://exiledonline.com/dylan-ratigan-makes-it-official-mark-ames-yasha-...
Who is Germany saving Greece for?
You know, just when I think I can't stand this guy one degree more....he blabs some more sh*t and sets a new level of disgust for me.
You really are cool beans, CoolBeans.
Was this speech by any chance given in that faux southern preacher's voice we've all come to know and love?
The only scary part is all the schmucks who lap this rhetoric up like obedient little lap dogs.
so I guess "hope and change" is now ... yours is mine.
It was so much easier a generation or two ago. To wit, 'pony up some cash to support the effort or, when we lose and they win, the Commies are gonna take everything you have.'
"God, I miss Communism. The Red Threat, people were scared... the agency had some respect, and I got laid every night." George Kaplan
Frank Marshall Davis well spoken.
Tim Berners-Lee must be spitting coffe all over his keyboard.
Tim 'only' invented www and its hypertext implementation. That is not the Internet. Obama is correct. The Govt/Military invented the Internet as we know it. Lookup DARPA
Communication between computers was going on long before the Internet arrived.
Amen to that. Hey, wait a minute. It was banks 'n' NORAD 'n' pointy heads. We're are doomed.
Pointless.
He IS blatantly LYING about why it was created.
Internet <> WWW
Time to change the acronym to LOTUS.
"But if you say, you can still pass the violations over, then I ask, hath your house been burnt? Hath your property been destroyed before your face? Are your wife and children destitute of a bed to lie on, or bread to live on? Have you lost a parent or a child by their hands, and yourself the ruined and wretched survivor? If you have not, then you are not a judge of those who have. But if you have, and can still shake hands with the murderers, then you are unworthy of the name of husband, father, friend, or lover, and whatever may be your rank or title in life, you have the heart of a coward and the spirit of a sycophant." Thomas Paine
There's elements of truth in what Obama says but he twists them. Reasonable people understand that fair taxes are a necessary condition for a modern technological state. Roads, infrastructure, courts are all things that have been helped by government intervention.
The problem is that the US government has also become the primary conduit for robbing Peter to pay Paul (for Paul's votes) and down that road lies ruin.
Very few people will disagree that others have helped build businesses by creating the pre-conditions to try. But in the end, any individual business exists because some specific person or persons took a risk. And having taken that risk, they deserve to profit from that risk if they succeeded (and to go bankrupt if they failed). Success and failures are both natural parts of the capitalist system. The primary aim of government should be keeping the market clean, free, and free of fraud. Instead government now becomes a stick up artist and an accomplice in oligarhical fraud. And yet Obama tries to use elements of truth to hide his corporatist agenda. The irony is immense.
Indeed and obama and the other communists are destroying the goose that laid the golden egg namely the middle class
Middle Class--Not the Rich or the Poor--Pay Majority of Federal Taxes, Says CBO Data
http://cnsnews.com/node/68094
Obama continues to talk about doing everything for the middle class. But what he really wants is the middle class to fail so more end up dependant on the Government. Anytime you raise taxes on anyone, it eventually trickles down to the middle class. their the ones who pay the bulk of the taxes along with the rich. 50% don't pay any income tax and those are the ones Obama is counting on for votes. Them plus the dead and Illegals.
http://mises.org/daily/2510
Equal theft? No thanks.
I don't agree with what Obama said but i do agree with the sentiment.
Nobody succeeds or fails as an individual. It is always a collective effort.
With each successive year US citizens are losing their social-economic mobility. Yet all buy into the myth that they to can be a millionaire. They buy into a society that is designed to reinforce that premise.
For the record, i am NOT pro Obama. I am not PRO either party or either candidate.
But i do think the notion of American Exceptionalism is racist, and false. The narrative is designed to reinforce a system that at best works for 20% of US citizens.
Of course nobody succeeds on their own but nobody works for free either which is why people receive a paycheck. I thought this debate was settled each morning when my employees show up for work. This bullshit speech sounds like EBT ain't working as well as a paycheck. Imagine that.
"So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause."
Such utter bullshit. Business owners have to overcome the incompetence and laziness of others in order to get anything done. Were that I, as a small business owner, COULD have done anything by myself, things would have been much easier. I don't give 1/1000000th of a shit what anyone else did to "help" me, because I FUCKING PAID THEM TO DO IT. Did they pay me? No. They stole from me.
Obama: "Government built the roads." Bullshit. Government APPROPRIATED the roads (seizing land through eminent domain, and labor by appropriating the claims on labor that rightfully belonged to others). Same with every other damn thing they ever "did". If they just saw to the common DEFENSE and regulated trade BETWEEN the states, everything would have been furnished by the free market, with an additional scalar of money not lost to the salaries of government bureaucrats.
Stimulus one was to rebuild bridges and roads. Remember how Obama laughed when asked about those shovel ready jobs? Obama? "Guess those shovel ready jobs are not so ready afterall" hahaha! What an idiot we have for a president. All those idiots that voted for him in the first place, hopefully will realize their mistake but I doubt many will.
Oh and Obama shows his knowledge of creating jobs by telling states they no longer need to require those collecting welfare to look for work or maybe take some form of training to continue to collect an unemployment check. Obama realizes the more collecting a welfare check the more votes he will get. Imagine paying states to advertise foodstamps.
So if you open your doors tomorrow and you have no power, water..... what are you gonna do? Build a power plant? Open a water works? Nope....your business is done. Because these "community provided services" are gone.
*Implying that non-governmental companies can't produce and distribute power
*Implying that non-governmental companies can't gather and distribure water
*Implying you are an idiot.
Just because government provides the services that were previously provided by the free market does not mean that the free market can't provide those services again, once the government gets out of the way. You are defending government granted monopolies because you can't imagine that there could be other sources for so-called utilities, and you further assume that if the government stepped out, that those services would simply disappear.
Now I am stating that you are an idiot, idiot.
"Build a power plant? Open a water works?"
Isn't that exactly what happened in Iraq when services were destroyed?! We saw lots of entreprenuers setting up generators right and left and running power lines to fill in where government ceased to function. Water came in on private carts. And obviously you've never been in Nepal where entreprenuers have set up private internet cafe's and battery recharging stations in the high Himalayas, operation of which requires the continuous transport of fuel which is brought up in 5-Gal. containers on the back of yaks. No "community provided services" there either.
The "collectivist" claptrap and mentality is for whiners and losers who could hardly wipe their own rear ends if govenment wasn't around to help them.
There was that, but actually, the US government also built a bunch of shit there, too.
Your tax money at work.
Let's see your entire business plan for powering up and providing water to the community using private market only.It would be interesting to see how much you would need and how many workers.
I don't see where Iraq is a good example. The suffering there is incomprehensible to populations that have been comfortable their whole lives. And I can hardly believe that water coming "in on private carts" is going to be enough in a desert community, except for the "fittest" and we all know who they will be.
Since we the taxpayers paid 3/4 of a Trillion dollars on the US Embassy in Iraq, then we should have no problem financing their power and water until "private interests" can do the job for everyone; since we destroyed much of their infrastructure under false pretenses.
Our electricity comes from a "co-op" owned entirely by the residents in my town....we citizens got together independent from the government or I should say in spite of the government...Our water comes from a well, our sewer is our own septic system....We built that by paying individual contractors to construct the various pieces....The only thing gov't did was TAX every transaction....If the gov't would leave me alone I would be even better off
And if I don't pay my bill, pretty much the same thing happens. What a fucking clueless asshole.
Sounds like you need to move to CHINDIA where at least if these fucking fuck-hole 'workers' are going to outright steal from you, they'll only steal a dollar per hour.
Jeezus H fucking christ dude.. it's a wonder you get anyone working for you at all. I'm no 'O'-pologist. But your big problem is being a stupid lazy bitch that comes up with a business model in which you can't DO EVERYTHING. (<-- I don't entirely believe that, BUT, that's as idiotic as saying everyone is incompetent and lazy). Most business can be run with more equity in a partnership (even if a worker only has an extremely minimal stake).
My issue with this discussion is that the corporatocracy pays c-suite (themselves) as if THEY DO DO everything. If somebody is incompetent to a degree - YOU TRAIN THEM!Something corporations stopped doing decades ago. Small biz owners work their asses off and I'm not sure why everyone came out of the woodwork - hoping deep down they qualify for John Galt's Valley of 'We don't need anyone!'. It's a fucking fairy-tale people. Haven't you read enough of the SHTF books to realize 'community' is a WAY better option than the 'lone wolf'. An early grave awaits anyone trying to do it all.
I have a business and work within a large corporation so experience both sides. I don't STEAL from somebody because I choose to work there, they profit plenty off of my work ethic and knowledge. You act as if you NEVER worked for anyone during your upbringing - Mitt, is that YOU?!?! (I know, he may have had jobs before, I just don't care to research it, and it sounded funny). I give your comments 'ups' often but for some reason, this one REALLY pissed me off. My wife is now mad at me for being on the 'chatrooms' too long... sigh
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For the record, Lizzy360 is pro Goldman Sachs alum and Central Bank Chairman Mark Carney et al.
But i do think the notion of American Exceptionalism is racist, and false.
lolwut
lol...funny stuff huh?...when all else fails, yell dats racist!!!...stamp your feet and hold your breath till ya pass out.
Simply amazing.
lizzy36
In a speech propogating Big Government, it is intellectually dishonest to extend the assistance of family or local community, into the Big Grasping Hand of Government as a Producers catalyst.
Obama, as usual, is a great Orator, largely of lies.
I, too, support neither candidate. We need a 3rd party.
In code what he is saying is...."stop whining about the Government oppressing you and redistritbuting your weath...look where that has taken us so far" (moon landing, Ipad, Hollywood, etc.).
Look where that has taken us so far: WW1, WW2, 'Cold War', Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Columbia, Panama, Iraq, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, all intentionally destabilizing the extended family in favor of government authoritarianism that favors a separate, foreign party, that is not subject to the rule of law.
Food stamps Obama - keep this up and it will be Bread Lines Obama.
The goverenment can not give you anything - the government does not produce anything - it can only give you what it has taken away from smoebody else.