Revisiting The "Nuclear Option": Will The Fed Buy European Bonds?

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Nearly two years ago, we first breached the topic of the Fed's nuclear option: the possibility (or is that likelihood) of the Fed stepping out of the continental US and proceeding to monetize European bonds. Back then we noted: "One thing learned over the past year is that everything is a distraction for something else, and that something else, quite usually without failure, ends up being the Marriner Eccles building on Constitution Avenue in D.C. What we refer to is disclosure from a paper written by none other than the Maestro Jr, in 2004, titled "Conducting Monetary Policy at Very Low Short-Term Interest Rates" (oddly appropriate). In this paper, Bernanke discusses not only the possibility of purchasing corporate assets (bonds and stocks), but emphasizes that one other security class which the Fed may be inclined to acquire under conditions such as those today, and has an explicit authority to do so, are foreign government bonds." The specific text referenced was the following: "In simple terms, if the liquidity or risk characteristics of securities differ, so that investors do not treat all securities as perfect substitutes, then changes in relative demands by a large purchaser have the potential to alter relative security prices. The same logic might lead the central bank to consider purchasing assets other than government securities, such as corporate bonds or stocks or foreign government bonds. (The Federal Reserve is currently authorized to purchase some foreign government bonds...)" So the question then becomes: with the ECB stubbornly refusing (for now) to proceed with outright monetization, and with its balance sheet already surpassing all time records as noted earlier (see below), coupled with tomorrow's LTRO which as discussed over the weekend will be a "Risk On" attempted failure, even if providing a brief relief rally in the interim, not to mention the complete lack of any long-term viability plan out of the Eurozone (EFSF failure due to lack of demand; IMF bailout plan failure due to the UK's veto and the circular joint and several funding by Italy and Spain of an Italian and Spanish bailout), will it be, once again, the Fed which at the end of the day will have to, by covert pathways or otherwise, be forced to step in and monetize European bonds: the so called Nuclear Option? Providing the latest thoughts on the topic is SocGen's Aneta Markowska...

Nuclear options - Can the Fed buy European bonds? This was a question that came up in Friday’s testimony by NY Fed’s Dudley to a congressional panel. Dudley confirmed that the Fed has the legal authority to buy foreign sovereign debt if the collateral is considered good and with appropriate haircuts. Though he wouldn’t rule anything out, Dudley noted that this has never been done and the bar is extraordinarily high. Theoretically speaking, this could actually be seen as a good option that solves a number of economic challenges: the US would see a weaker dollar, helping to rebalance its economy, while Europe would see its funding costs go down. Yet, we believe that the Fed would be facing tremendous political resistance in the US to such a decision. To date, the Fed’s crisis fighting operations have not led to any losses; buying foreign assets would expose US taxpayers not just to credit risk but also to currency risk. The Fed would probably think long and hard before taking such a step, particularly during a politically charged election year.

Yes, the Fed will think long and hard, but since as Kyle Bass observed, an ECB response would likely come only after a Eurozone default, and thus would be too late, an outcome which Draghi has telegraphed well in advance, we doubt that political considerations will hold the Fed back from doing whatever it needs to rescue the banking system, which currently has as its focal point day to day developments in Europe. It is also our contention that preserving the "Fiat way of life" is a sufficiently high bar for Mr Dudley. And yes, it is logical why such a move by the Fed is precisely what the Fed would desire, as it would lead to the same collapse in the USD that resulted back on March 18, 2009 when the Fed announced the expanded QE1. Finally, the primary reason why the ECB will likely not get involved is that its balance sheet is already at burgeoning records, and is well bigger than that of the Fed, making the final decision all too easy.

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Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:15 | 1998667 MsCreant
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"Revisiting The "Nuclear Option": Will The Fed Buy European Bonds?"

Yes. Neeext!

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:18 | 1998683 redpill
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* but we won't find out about it until 2015 under a FOIA request

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:20 | 1998691 Divided States ...
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I think Occupy will go nuclear if that happens...no way we bailing those lazy ass Europeans, not over my dead body.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:22 | 1998704 MsCreant
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We, they, funny. We are all Ponzi scammers now, baby. It is all in the land of the absurd. Everyone is broke. They are printing and looking for a fiction that everyone will believe and let things go on as they have. 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:39 | 1998771 redpill
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OT: Hitler was just informed about Ron Paul's latest polling results in Iowa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ScPXDRcIfc

That clip never gets old!

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:55 | 1999054 Banksters
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Now that was HILARIOUS!

Wed, 12/21/2011 - 00:52 | 2000082 trav7777
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with the ECB's balance sheet at 2.5T, how can we say they HAVEN'T been printing???

There just THAT MUCH debt out there needing rolled.  Doubling is like that.

75% of world debt is dollars, so it's up to the Fed to take care of that base.

Wed, 12/21/2011 - 05:54 | 2000347 Mauibrad
Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:43 | 1998793 clones2
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They've got balls of steel if they openly purchase Euro Bonds..

But I'm sure they have a "plan" :-) haha.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:48 | 1998809 DonnieD
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The Fed's balance sheet expanded by a few hundred billion today. They had to make a statement when BAC closed sub $5.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:00 | 1998848 CClarity
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Need to make Cindy Lou Hoo down in Whoville happy with a Santie Claus rally.  Print, need, print, need until more people "get it".

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:38 | 1998997 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The ECB's book is bigger than the Fed's....

I wonder if Ben has book envy

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:43 | 1998794 AldousHuxley
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Fed needs to short Euro banks, let them fail and profit for US.

Then also short US banks and let them fail along with Buffett's insider trader on BAC to profit for US and let bankster execs join th unemployment line.

Then short Chinese housing and let them fail along with communist party.

 

Relay the proceeds to US Treasury to pay off debt.

 

Any remaining profits are used to fund Ron Paul's presidential campaign.

 

 

 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:47 | 1998806 MsCreant
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If we put you in as the head of the Fed, would you do all this and then shut the fucker down?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:52 | 1998823 Potemkin Villag...
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Huxley/Paul 2012

Casue then when Huxley passes too close to the book depository, we end up with Ron Paul as POTUS...

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:28 | 1998963 AldousHuxley
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if I shut it down, then all elites would have to do is to kill me and resurrect the Fed...for the 4th time in US.

 

I would introduce legal competitions to the Fed with multiple national currencies. I mean their power really comes from monopoly of monetary policy giving you no choice but to accept their failures and corruption.

 

Also divide up central federal power systems and divde them into smaller portions such as at the state and county level  so that government maintains representation ratio to the people. This is to prevent consolidation of power into fewer and fewer hands as populations grow. All this consolidation only benefit those at the very top as you can see from mergers and acquisitions as the top elites just grow the pyramid beneath them.

 

It is time to decentralize United STATES of America. We still don't have a good grasp of central governance. Time to go back to letting states develop their own ways and see what works. All we know is New York City banksters cannot be trusted.

 

CHOICE = FREEDOM

 

 

 

Wed, 12/21/2011 - 05:42 | 2000343 zhandax
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All we know is New York City banksters cannot be trusted.

All we know is New York City banksters and all lawyers cannot be trusted.  There, fixed it for ya.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 19:09 | 1999267 Stoploss
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Were the last ponzi house left on the block. All the neighbors are falling apart fast. Now asia is going into a banking crisis. Perfect timing.

Wed, 12/21/2011 - 05:48 | 2000345 zhandax
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Sounds familiar; you own a house in California?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:28 | 1998731 GeneMarchbanks
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Oh yes you are. Occupy can go nuke-ular, the Teabaggers can go apeshit, it matters not.

BTW, should this occur I'd like to say to my American friends, Thank you and you will not regret this decision that the banking cabal made for you. Now back to democracy...

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:42 | 1998790 economics1996
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We already have.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 18:56 | 1999231 WhiteNight123129
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I think Germany would laugh its ass off so much, they would have a Schnapps party at the Bundestag and the Buba if that happens.

 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:20 | 1998694 MsCreant
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**and they already started doing it in 2008.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:45 | 1999021 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You talkin' 'bout Benny and Barney?  Or Benny and Barkey?  Or Barney and Barkey?  Or Bushy and Barkey?  Or Bubba and Barkey and Bushy?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 19:42 | 1999338 MsCreant
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"Blarney" needs to be on your list somewhere. I'm talking about Blarney, the Ben-o-cide, tho.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:25 | 1998722 MillionDollarBonus_
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I have been suggesting this for many months now. I truly believe that this is the ONLY viable policy in the long term. Many US financial institutions have large exposures to European sovereign debt, and a default could seriously harm their balance sheets. The financial sector is a large part of our economy here in the US, so it is in our national interest that our Federal Reserve does everything possible to stabilize Europe. And if that means full-scale debt monetization, then so be it.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:32 | 1998745 mayhem_korner
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And if that means full-scale debt monetization, then so be it.

 

ROFL - the truth is so funny!  I'm picturing Ben, goggles and kneepads on, hovering two stories over a 10-foot diameter PRINT button with a big Keynesian grin on his face.  BANZAI!!!

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:56 | 1998836 Potemkin Villag...
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Yeah... speaking of BANZAI... I'm waiting for WB7 to come out with the foto of Bernanke, while saying he wouldn't monetize the US debt, with a thought bubble above his head thinking... "Ha!ha! I haven't said anything about Eurozone debt"...

Wed, 12/21/2011 - 06:02 | 2000350 zhandax
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Hey MDB, what do you think would happen if 'Many US financial institutions' were forced to follow centuries old practice in finance and their balance sheets collapsed and they were forced to file bankruptcy due to stupid risks taken on the supposition that the fed would bail them out?   I gotta hear your 'end of the world' scenario.....  Call an early morning committee meting; the ESF is good for the overtime.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:33 | 1998749 GeneMarchbanks
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You tell'em MDB! I'd much prefer this to being an Europeon.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:43 | 1998796 I got the Bull ...
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I agree with you. Provided the Governments of the Euro, wind back their socialist spending programs and restructure their Fiscal systems to ensure co-operation and restraint. If they don't the Moral Hazard will break the Fed in the future.

The economy was starting to recover, although at low interest rates. Recall the European fiasco broke the market recovery. Retirees view their wealth based on their 401K health. Poor health means less spending and a wind back in business investment.

Solving the Euro problems is the first step in the crisis. Adopting Fiscal restraint and bureaucratic efficiency is the next. Adopting modern energy solutions and infrastructure rebuilding is the final step (New Deal 2.0)

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:06 | 1998859 hedgeless_horseman
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The economy was starting to recover, although at low interest rates.

I call Bullshit.  US Treasury auctions were coming under real pressure.  That is why the USA attacked the Euro. 

The Fed isn't going to buy any significant European debt.  That would be aiding and abetting the enemy.  This is just more psy-ops to loosen Europe's sphincter for the Eurobond suppository.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:15 | 1998917 GeneMarchbanks
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'The Fed isn't going to buy any significant European debt.'

What's significant?

'That would be aiding and abetting the enemy.  This is just more psy-ops to loosen Europe's sphincter for the Eurobond suppository.'

Who exactly is the enemy now? You realize the Eurobond simply cannot happen within the next couple of years at least? Here is a question: What can be done more covertly, the Fed buying Euro-feces or Europe getting a common Treasury Dprt?

With all the shit the Fed has gotten away with in the last, oh let's say thirty years, I'm not sure the answer is clear.

 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:26 | 1998951 hedgeless_horseman
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You realize the Eurobond simply cannot happen within the next couple of years at least?

Come now, Gene.  All the hard work has already been done. 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 19:02 | 1999249 WhiteNight123129
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You are both wrong on the enemy. The enemy currency is a non fiat currency from Asia that is innocuous and quite for now. It is not Gold (exactly) though.

 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:44 | 1998797 GMadScientist
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Why not assess the core problem and eliminate the real threat to their balance sheets: their boards and executives!

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:05 | 1998867 True.North
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If the Fed monetizes and the collateral becomes insufficient, can we instate a VAT tax on these countries and treat them like colonies?

/sarc

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:25 | 1998949 eatthebanksters
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So the Fed loans more money to groups that owe them more than they can afford to repay...hmmmm...why not just loan all the people on main street the money.  When the little people have their debt reduced and balance sheets strengthened don't you think they will satrt spending agian and perhaps stimulate economic growth?  Oh, that's right, but if the Fed does that then Jamie Dimon and his big bank (who won't lend to Main Streeters), along with the other TBTF banks, won't be relevent or neccessary anymore...and god forbid, he couldn't make his $30 million a year fucking people.  (I don't have any problem with someone making bazillions honestly...I just hate crooks).  Time to resetthe system.  Anyone want to get their guns and protest in front of the Fed with me?   I hear the black helicopters again!

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:27 | 1998959 Teamtc321
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Yawn MDB, now I'm going to go make you a hot lunch and leave you a napkin. 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 18:59 | 1999238 WhiteNight123129
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LOL, cut the crap will you...?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:38 | 1998775 RMolineaux
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Are they going to buy Israel bonds next?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:04 | 1998865 Sam Clemons
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Seems obvious.  The whole existence of all central banks depends on keeping the Ponzi scheme going.  They will do whatever it takes to keep the show going.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 22:26 | 1999789 Milestones
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I disagree! If the EURO fails, the entire idea of a one world currency fails--dramatically. Europe will collapse momentarily as will the USA and China. Two  to three years. Europe is THE linch pin of the Elites plan in my opinion. 27 Countries to manage into a world currency. I think that may well be the push in the middle east--try and herd those cats and make them into sheep-- a commonality of some sorts. That will also fail.

Then there is 1913. If I am not mistaken their 100 year lease(?) runs out on the FED in 2012. Renewal of that may be the start of a civil war right here in River City. The Boyz may well be rushing this thing due to time constraints. Maybe they'll just settle what they have looted, but I doubt it.

Man, there are enough theories to float a Barnum and Baily Circus with a full Carney runway.        Milestones

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:15 | 1998669 hugovanderbubble
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Can the ECB be in default? YES

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:16 | 1998671 Gubbmint Cheese
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they will do whatever pushes the stock markets up.. f*ing whores.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:17 | 1998675 mayhem_korner
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If this was George H.W.'s watch, it would be the "new-cue-ler" option.

BTW, my answer is yes - it's advanced can-kicking, prevent-death-by-trade-deficit strategy.  Fed to merge with ECB, film at 11.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:17 | 1998677 kralizec
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Stupid is as stupid does...

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:18 | 1998681 MsCreant
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Has anyone explained the concept of Moral Hazard to Ben? Do they cover that in an Economics Ph.D. program?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:41 | 1998784 RopeADope
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Moral Hazard does not have any easily measureable data points, it therefore must not exist.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:49 | 1998813 AldousHuxley
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moral hazard = bernanke

 

bernanke exists so moral hazard must exist

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:07 | 1998876 Sam Clemons
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To someone with no morals or sense of justice, it would be impossible to understand moral hazard or even theft.  This is self evident.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:47 | 1999025 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Moral Hazard is a main concept, my dear Ms.  Isn't it ironic how Ben does not follow the rules he outlines in his own textbook

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:19 | 1998685 nwskii
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default answer

"Bush's Fault"

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:22 | 1998702 Jolly.Roger
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i question the relevance of your comment

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:47 | 1999028 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Fine, Bubba's fault

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:22 | 1998703 mayhem_korner
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"default answer" = Freudian slip

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:19 | 1998686 GeneMarchbanks
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So... what you're saying(and please correct me if I'm wrong) is we need to bring back RICO?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:21 | 1998697 gwar5
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I think the FED is the lender of last resort to bail out Europia. The EU is begging for it. They're all inbred anyway. The FED really wants to kick the USD down the stairs and push the EURO back up.

 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:22 | 1998698 Tsar Pointless
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Will? As in the present first-person singular conjugation of the word "is"?

Well, I s'pose it depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:25 | 1998705 firstdivision
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I would go with yes, seeing as how today is a massive "risk-on" mania.  Since close yesterday OIX +4%, HYG +1.2%, 10Y +6.2%, 5Y +6.6%, RUT +4%, WTI +3.54%, Ag +2.42%.  Gold has had a muted movement compared to everything else.  Someone knows something as this move seems insiderish to coordinated.

The interesting caveat to the movements today is that the EUR gave up it's overnight gains as the day went on.  So is the ECB going to print?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:28 | 1998732 mayhem_korner
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Gold has had a muted movement compared to everything else.

 

How does that stand up if you use say, a year-to-date perspective?

If you go by today's CNBC's orgasmic headline, one would think stocks are at all-time highs.  Yet the S&P 500 is still under water for 2011, and that's not adjusting for inflation.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:03 | 1998861 firstdivision
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True, but I'm talking about relative movements since close yesterday.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:22 | 1998706 joseywales
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Could this be the reason for the two-way FX swap lines?  If the Fed just prints money and buys European sovereign bonds, then the Fed is at risk to sovereign default.  However, if the Fed prints and gets foreign currency via FX swap lines from ECB and then buys European sovereign bonds, then the Fed has a little more leverage upon a soverign default.  Namely, it reneges on the ECB swap line (which is a creature backed by European sovereigns) and creates a setoff to use against its claim under the defaulted soverign bonds.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:46 | 1998801 economics1996
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The Fed is leveraged 56-1 now, whats a few more turds in the basket.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:23 | 1998710 topcallingtroll
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Bernanke has been clear in his testimony that he wont be buying bonds for the fed account.

I think he is too leery of congress to even buy foreign bonds indirectly such as thru the IMF.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:29 | 1998733 HelluvaEngineer
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Thanks for the chuckle.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:29 | 1998738 MsCreant
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He has lied to congress before and gotten away with it. What's different now? Our ire? Our awareness? Seriously.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:36 | 1998761 HelluvaEngineer
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Please.  Congress doesn't even care.  They're in on the sham.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:49 | 1998812 falak pema
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the people have one atom bomb weapon ;their vote! Its election year! 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 18:07 | 1999096 RobD
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Yes that is true but the Bernanke is not up for election so what is your point?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 19:39 | 1999334 falak pema
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Potus rules over BB in a normal government, if Potus is not afraid of being assassinated, he can fire BB any day of the week. And shut down the ponzi. We are there, we need a man at the top who is not afraid to die, and who wins over key elements in the defense, state and finance sectors of Admin to his side. I mean high level admin people and relays in private enterprise. Not every key man in the Pentagon, in State, in FED, in Treasury is part and parcel of ponzi. These circles of crime, 'cos this is what it is, have to be selective by definition. The ponzi is run by a bunch of key people all networked together through common interest and back up in corporate world. So you need top people on the people's side who are ready to die for it and PROSECUTE BIG TIME To correct it. If you have a resolute HEAD man the army immediately forms. The ground swell is there!

That's my point. And the people should vote for these men. THe more the pain, the more the determination. Champagne cork principle! 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:23 | 1998712 dumpster
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do ducks quack

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:26 | 1998725 MsCreant
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Lots of bears shitting in the woods right now...

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:48 | 1998808 GMadScientist
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D'you mind? i can't go when you watch.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:52 | 1998822 WonderDawg
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Not the ones who understand the real deal. We're salivating at what might be the last opportunity to go short at higher prices.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:24 | 1998715 carbonmutant
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Is there any doubt that Congress backed off on the Payroll tax extension so we'd have enough extra to bailout the EU...?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:27 | 1998728 MsCreant
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Extra, hehehehe, hahahahaha, hohohoho, stop it your killin' me! Let me breathe. Extra. Ah ha ha ha ha...

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:42 | 1998791 carbonmutant
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Euphemistically speaking...

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:24 | 1998719 alfred b.
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   I had no idea that they had ever stopped !!!!

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:25 | 1998721 RopeADope
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I am reminded of a hamster on a wheel for some reason...

 

The Federal Hamster Board had better make sure that wheel is greased as that little guy is hitting some impressive speeds.

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:50 | 1998816 NoMoreDebt
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Imagine if we could hook the wheel up to a generator and all the green power it would produce.  Suggest $1B DOE loans to be approved at mighnight. 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:50 | 1998817 NoMoreDebt
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Imagine if we could hook the wheel up to a generator and all the green power it would produce.  Suggest $1B DOE loans to be approved at mighnight. 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:30 | 1998743 dcb
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see this is where things get funny. the bernank spoke the other day and said the fed didn't have the authority to bail out european banks. but you see he does. I mentioned that it was in fact a lie, and it just had to do wi8th the way he classified bail out. yep he has the authority and ability to bail out european debt. maybe we will do a qe on the euro bonds as well.

the man needs a ice pick to the medulla oblongotta

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:33 | 1998751 mayhem_korner
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So who's gonna bailout the bailers?

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:36 | 1998764 MsCreant
Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:01 | 1998851 AldousHuxley
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your children

and your grandchildren

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 18:44 | 1999188 cranky-old-geezer
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Fed is like a black hole.  They buy crap securities from banks (with freshly printed cash), and now crap Euro debt too, and all that crap paper more or less vanishes from the market.  Fed can hold that stuff forever, and say it's worth whatever they want it to be worth.

Because Fed has no accountability to anyone. 

 

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:33 | 1998752 dumpster
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bernake quacks like a duck

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 17:09 | 1998890 AldousHuxley
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watch out Bernanke....Chinese like their ducks crispy....

Tue, 12/20/2011 - 16:34 | 1998757 Commerce Exchange
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Not sure if the FED will buy on the direct version but probably will have hedges, trusts and banks to that for them, on a back door support.

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