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Ron Paul's 'Audit-The-Fed' Swan Song Passes House, Unlikely To Pass Senate
When Paul first introduced his bill a decade ago, it was written off as another piece of his far-flung libertarian worldview is how Politico juxtaposes today's (now successful) vote on Ron Paul's Fed Transparency Bill. "I want to appreciate and congratulate Dr. Ron Paul for his tireless pursuit of openness and transparency," said Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah). "Without his leadership, we wouldn’t be at this point today." Via Bloomberg:
- *FED AUDIT BILL OPPOSED BY BERNANKE GAINS APPROVAL BY U.S. HOUSE
- *FED AUDIT BILL NEEDS SENATE APPROVAL, PRESIDENT'S SIGNATURE
- *FED AUDIT BILL SPONSORED BY REPRESENTATIVE RON PAUL OF TEXAS
The House passed H.R. 459, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2012, in a 327-98 vote. twitter.com/GOPLeader/stat…
— Eric Cantor (@GOPLeader) July 25, 2012
Via Politico:
“I’m pleased. It’s something I’ve worked on for a long time, and it’s a good first step,” Paul told POLITICO. “It’s coming to the floor as a response to the American people, because I don’t have a whole lot of clout around here.”
Paul really doesn’t want this bill to be treated as his swan song in Congress, but to some extent this vote represents a coda to an eccentric congressional career. Paul’s movement has always been stronger outside the Capitol than inside it, yet the fact that at least one of his ideas is starting to break through shows that he may still have some clout on the national stage, even if he’s leaving the congressional payroll and ditching his presidential runs.
And even though a return to the gold standard, legalization of drugs and abolishing the Federal Reserve remain pipe dreams, Paul believes the traction on his Audit the Fed bill does validate his grass-roots, populist approach to monetary policy.
“I like to think of it more as verifying that my approach is a little bit different than just becoming a powerful player and having an influence, versus really changing people’s minds,” he said. “Events have also brought it about because these last five years have been so important to the economy. If the crisis hadn’t hit, I don’t think I could have gotten as much attention.
“Government reflects the people, sometimes that happens slowly,” he said. “When the American people get upset, Congress listens.”
and some useful comments from the opposers of the bill...
Never mind that the Fed audit is dead in the Senate — Majority Leader Harry Reid’s office has said he won’t bring it up.
There are still many Democrats who aren’t convinced, like Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.). “There is an audit of the Fed done every year. It’s not what Dr. Paul prefers, but I think the public has been misled in believing there’s no accountability. That’s not accurate,” Cleaver said. “I do think there are times when members will vote for something they don’t normally like as a tribute to members that are departing. Some of that may happen.”
And Hoyer said no matter how many Democrats are co-sponsors, he still thinks the bill is bad policy — and he’s urging Democrats not to support it.
“Whatever the motivation is, and however broad the sponsorship is, my own view is that it’s bad policy,” Hoyer told reporters on Wednesday. “It will undermine the independence of the Federal Reserve and will, therefore, undermine the competence in the Federal Reserve, which plays a significant role in stabilizing the economy and addressing the creation of jobs.”
and the full roll-call...
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Great site:
https://www.popvox.com/
They email your comments to your House and Senate Reps. for you. It's also interesting to see how others vote around you. Even better, it works! Sen. Brown's Office called me to clarify an issue I commented on.
Elizabeth Warren is a no-brainer!
fuck Brown!!!
Fake-a-hontas? Are you kidding?
Not sure what Warren had to do with my comment or this thread. All I was doing was pointing to a viable option for Americans, registered voters or not, to write their CONgressional Representives on issues that are important to them.
If Warren beats Brown, you will be afforded the same opportunity through that site.
Now, since I think we're all fucked anyways by a completely corrupt CONgress, so far it is the only peaceful way to be heard. I would say go vote, but The United States has arguably the worst voter turnout in the free world, not representative of a true Republic.
The Fed (and Fort Knox) will be audited when Corzine is getting butt-fucked by Bubba and Guido in prison.
Don't hold your breath
The conspiracy side of me thinks this might pass the senate as it's all part of a bigger planned take down.
+1. The goal of TPTB may actually be the dismantling of the Fed.
The Fed's charter is up in 2013, no?
No that is a myth.
http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/04/21/the-federal-reserves-non-existent-99-year-charter-set-to-expire-in-2012/
I recommend readling The Creature from Jekyll Island by G.Edward Griffin. It is very well written and it lays out the history of the fed.
HILZENRAT!!!
WHERE IS THAT FUCKING RAT NOW....
THROW OUT A RUMOR.....NOW....WE ARE GOING DOWN!!!
FUCKING RAT
COMMENT CYLCE ERROR / “BITCHES” SEGMENT NOT FOUND / RESTART COMMENTS
ron paul, bitchez
Audit, Bitchez!
NEED RUMOR....NOW....
Ok....QE3, rates at negative for the next generation...
tough shit...
Ben shot his wad.....
Fuck Harry Reid! Bring out the guillotines!
look at the republican split vs. the democrat split.
you can bet it will fail in the senate.
The dems really don't want the free money machine audited. Hmmm
Just think, we coulda had Ron Paul for prez. But noooooo, the stupid fux in this country want Romoney or O'bomb-a.
Media wouldn't allow it. Make that the status quo wouldn't allow it. Nothing will change the path we are on.
You mean the stupid fux running the Republican primaries? Shit, "the people" don't even get to vote for him if he can't get on the ticket.
Wow
Adam 'look at my dick' Johnson, Bloomberg, has got to be the biggest idiot on the network. Why do we have to watch this?
One person throwing a pebble at a guy won't even cause him to flinch. A few thousand people throwing pebbles at once can cause some damage.
On another note, WTF IS GOING ON WITH CRUDE OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS? Or is a $85-$90 intraday multiple swing trading range supposed to be normal?
After this we need the Ron Paul "audit every hedge fund bill", the Ausidt Apple Bill", and why not the "Audit the entire governmental corporate economic complex bill".
What we would find is that the entire economy is a fraud.
The list of Nays reads like an uncleaned OUTHOUSE! Eff every damn one of you Marxist/Commies!
The House of Reprentatives are the direct wishes of the American People and the Senate are two appointees from the state legislature to represent the interest of that State. At least that's how the Constituion originally had things until Senators became elected with the 17th Amendment.
It's too bad the crooks have fouled things up so badly that the Senate can foil the American people.
The banks bought and paid for lackeys (CONgressional "Representatives") will never allow the Central Bank caretaker rock to be lifted on the vermin of Wall Street.
Yes, let bernanke drive yields down to the point where everyone suffers. Like -1.50 REAL yields on 5 year Treasuries!
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/5-year-treasury-aucti...
Does anyone honestly believe that Harry Reid is worried about financial stability? If he is, then when is he going to support cutting spending? Because that leads us directly toward financial instibility. He must get money from the banks. There's a reason why Obama and Romney are both bankrolled by the same major banks and Ron Paul is not, and this is the reason.
Harry Reid and his ilk on both sides of the aisle care about the following:
Yes, that's it.
Democrats want to win in November ???
All Reid has to do is call this up for a vote and pass it.
Seriously....
Todays gold and silver action...first time it has been allowed to rise in over two months...I just wonder if TPTB have had to let go of the reins a little with this LIBOR lawsuit comming upon them and maybe...just maybe they think they are going to get caught with their hand in the cookie jar here too....and with another bunch of lawsuits......if PM´s keep going up....to $2,000 in the next month or two...i think I am right on this thesis...and I will have another beer
Come on Maria, say it.. And we're off the session highs
Paul is the only politician on this planet I do not hate and despise. I even donated 400 bucks to his campaign.
Jesus the US political system must be the most corrupt and manipulative on the planet. At least Mugabe is blatant in his corruption and oppression of his people. These rats pretend to act in the best interests of the populace. Burn in hell. On second thoughts most of them are probably masochists, sociopaths or satan worshipers anyway and would probably like that
I am always amazed how it's all or nothing. Either it's a grand-slam-dunk silver bullet or it's fucked.
Thanks Ron, this is a good start.
My Representative voted YES and even Eric Cantor voted yes.
I am disturbed by the fact that almost all the Republicans voted YEA while there were 94 Democrats which voted Nay.
The Senate bill is S 202. I am already putting the heat on my Senator to pass, as is, before the election.
Ajay Kapur from Deutsche Bank on CNBC:
"Breaking up the big banks is a red herring, it isn't a structural problem but a management problem."
Meth addict: "My problem is not doing meth, it's managing my consumption."
Send in the straw men next. That' rich, Ajay Doosh. That any part of the the entire kleptocratic, fiat fictional reserve, price fixing, mark to fantasy scheme is necessary is the red herring.
Fuck you Harry Reid
Regarding Harry Reid,
"make sure the rope is tight! It's got to hold the weight of a pig."
Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramiriez
We need to replace congress with true representatives of the people, not special intrests, bankers, elite, military industrial complex, etc., who serve the people's interests exclusively.
We need to replace congress with true representatives of the people, not special intrests, bankers, elite, military industrial complex, etc., who serve the people's interests exclusively.
INSCRIPTIONS ON FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES
1913 . . . TO . . . 1934
"Redeemable in Gold on demand at the United States Treasury or in Lawful money, at any Federal Reserve Bank." "Will pay to the bearer on demand one dollar."
1934 . . . TO . . . 1968
"This note is legal tender for all debts public and private and is redeemable in lawful money at the United States Treasury, or any Federal Reserve bank." "Will pay to the bearer on demand one dollar."
1968 . . . TO . . . 1998
"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"
2012 - onward "This note is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle"
I really like the switcharoo in 1934. Can you imagine walking up to the fed with a $1 federal reserve note and being handed back one dollar (aka another $1 federal reserve note).
I am in physical possession of US gold notes, dollars of their time.
My 1928 gold certificate says:
Full faith and credit? Laughing all the way to the poor house.
Ah..you have noticed a paper trail there. Now, what if they had branches completely outside the USA interacting with each other and issuing those bank notes guaranteed by the wealth (gold, silver, copper coin and even the land) or public credit of the American People?
McFadden Explains.
http://www.afn.org/~govern/mcfadden.html
http://www.afn.org/~govern/mcfadden_speech_1932.html
Thomas Jefferson Explains.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bank-tj.asp
Andrew Jackson Explains...
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/ajveto01.asp
Last of the silver coin....
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=27108
Notice what he says the treasury will do with it's silver. Sell it for what exactly?
It is all there in the public record. All one has to do is read it.
As if it would even make a difference.
The senate won't likely bring it to a vote.
Then why do they even vote on anything?
Crap, just take a vote that the current government will hold no more elections. the current leadership is and will be your benevolent masters from now until eternity.
WHERE IS JON CORZINE?
Probably a plumber for the Fed plugging those "Fed about to intervene!" leaks.
This is not a “swan song"; this is a black swan. This is not the end of an “eccentric congressional career,” as Politico so tellingly telegraphed its viewpoint.
This is the first nail in the coffin of the Federal Reserve Act; it is all downhill for them from now on because of not Ron Paul but the thousands and thousands of knowledgeable activists he has turned on to this criminal conspiracy that has our nation, and now the world, by the throat.
To say that this represents a swan song is to be obscene. Ron Paul is the man who stood and is still standing.
Ron Paul as a radical... bullshit. the Fed is incredibly corrupt, they FEAR audits and truth... so ending them is radical?? The drug "war"... total crap, super expensive, does not accomplish jack shit, the Gov is deeply involved in this... see CIA rumors... let alone the prison expense... and bringing back sound money... sure what a kook! How the scummy Dems rationalize voting against this bill... they should all be drug through he streets.
just suppose it passes, with our regulatory agencies, what would they find?
The argument that the audit bill would turn Fed policy into a political game is fraud. The bill is aimed at find out if it has not been "politicized" already. (Which we all know it has been for a long time)
It is a shame if this does not pass senate and Obama's desk. It could be a uniting point of the masses against the banksters and government.
I am a right-wing Democrat. I now consider myself an independent after this vote.If even the staunchest Repub's can see that the SHTF,I only wonder what those DEM's have been smoking.There is something smelly in the NYFEDs' basement,a proper stinking turd.That is why the secrecy.Don't lift up the carpet because you won't like what you see crawling out.
RP on BB tv coming up next...
must of missed him... but can't miss Shover's Schnoze... whata beak!
fuck you, Hoyer.
Fucking Bberg is trying to make Dr. Paul look bad and he's making a great exposition of his points....Fucking establishment media!
The FED is DEAD.... Long Live the FED !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=yFXIgvYldc0&feature=endscreen
all banksters are in on it. arrest them.
"the Federal Reserve, which plays a significant role in stabilizing the economy and addressing the creation of jobs"
And they've done such a magnificent job haven't they?
"We the People" we like that but the elites like ... "We the Supplicants" and boy are they work'n it.
An unfortunate but telling ending.
A man with a some good ideas who blew any chance at realizing same by pushing too many other suicidal and silly ideas.
Oh the last time i heard Ron Paul at the Bernank hearing, he wasn't rambling but quite articulate and inspiring.
Which part exactly is silly ? The one about free markets ?
The democratic controlled Senate will not even bring this to a vote. It's easy to be cynical on the process. But get real. Do you ever listen to any of the committee hearings and get the feeling that the democrats want to reign this in? Or is it that the easy money train needs to continue to fund more liberalism with the biggest spender in world history at the helm? The tea party ran on trying to stop the spending btw and won overwhelming support in the 2010 midterms and were elected to do just this precise bill. I didn't hear any democrats calling for auditing the fed. That should tell you something. The republicans still only control the house and would inevitably be vetoed by Obama on anything they propose in this regard.
Personally I think people voting for the democrats are simply voting in favor of their social liberalism and against fiscal responsibility. They don't care that are country is going broke. For them other things matter to them much more. At some point fiscal responsibility will matter to everyone but it may be too late.
Harry Reid, what a joke. Nancy Pelosi has a higher testoserone level than he does. He should get Wayne Newtons Plastic surgeon to give him a lift. I am proud to be from Texas with one of the only Representatives that has character and isn't just one. I'm certain that the Fed has dirt on most of the embassasment we have to represent us, like Edgar Hoover did in his hey day. Seems Meyer Lansky had a photo of Edgar and Clyde "flagrante delicto". Never was too clear as to whom was pitching and catching. I guess we just can't get to the truth of this just like 9 11. It never ceases to amaze me how few Americans know the facts of our government. I'd like to see Ben tell Andrew Jackson that he wasn't showing him the books to the Fed. Now that would be comical. Iit makes me physicly sick to see John McCcain and Mitt Romney give Ron Paul condescending looks when neither one is fit to lick the bottom of his shoes. I'm feeling sick thinking of the disingenuous traitors we have to select from our field of candidates to choose. It's like selecting which venerial disease you prefer.
Classic Ben Bernake 1984. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQn82LHc50. Ends with him saying "The Fed's independence is critical". Yeah, right. After a 100 years of whool over our eyes, the jig is up.
Harry Reeds words ...may he choke on em now"...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXOsZ7Ad7dM&feature=player_embedded
Regardless, There are a shit-ton more people aware of the Fed now than previously.
There are also a shit-ton of people posting Senator Reid's phone# on Facefarm and elsewhere urging dissonance.
Steps in the correct direction, imho.
Ron Paul Punk Rock Anthem- Recorded by a "retarded 40 year old with a drum machine and a dream".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWC_0jPFQ_Q
The FEMA camp is on both sides of the barbed wire with that pussy attitude.
They already know who you are, Joe. You're on ZH.
Exercise your rights. Sequentially if necessary.
Black Flag "Six Pack" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqmZdLrLjrI
Too big to fail, too big to jail and now too big to audit. The crooks policing the crooks.
Unlikely to pass the crooked, corrupt, bought off senate? Say it aint so Joe! Disband the Senate. It is without a doubt THE biggest stumbling block to bringing back rule of law in this country and I would venture to say that at least 2/3 of its members are captured by banking interests. Oh well, American Idol is coming back on.