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September 11: 10 Years Later

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From Mark McHugh of Across The Street

No doubt September 11, 2001 changed everything.  But the business of actually measuring those changes has been as overlooked by most as the nationalities of the hijackers.  The following is presented in the interest of truth, justice and the American way.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

~Benjamin Franklin

 

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Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:27 | 1656350 walküre
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Very personal touch and it's yours to keep.

We don't shed tears for the thousands of Iraqis that got killed by our troops during the war on Iraq.

Our people in NY died so that we could have a pretext to go and kill thousands more in Iraq. Conspiracy or not, this alone is fucked up.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:39 | 1656414 High Plains Drifter
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iraq never had anything to do with 911.  we have killed a lot more than thousands there. probably more than a million. plus the area is for all intents and purposes uninhabitable forever due to depleted uranium use there which by the way is causing massive numbers of medical issues in the population. so there we are and we call ourselves a christian nation and we go and destroy the birthplace of humanity.......way to go amerikans. i am so proud of this country.........

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:52 | 1657039 Everybodys All ...
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Proud of Sasddam Hussein as well?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:06 | 1656711 trav7777
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compassion for the probably million plus killed in these wars? Oh, they were just collateral damage like the WTC people

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:14 | 1656744 High Plains Drifter
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its like an american commander issuing a order to fire in every direction if the convoy is attacked?  what kind of people are these idiots?  its like blackwater security killing civilians at random during an attack of the convoy they are protecting. these new american soldiers are not what america wants. they are strange people, and they don't seem to know right from wrong. they are cardboard cutouts of human beings without souls and they have been programmed for a very long time, playing war games on their computers to get their minds right for the time when they would be needed. the modern volunteer army started in 1971. i was there watching it. i was in the barracks one day. some men came in and started working. i asked them. what are you all doing. they said they were carpenters and they were building rooms for the soldiers to have. they said, son, you are now in the modern volunteer army. i said at the time.......hmmm, cool. no more draft...........but little did i know........fastforward 30 years and now we see what was happening......

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 10:26 | 1659456 DaveyJones
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In the criminal justice system I have noticed, unlike the air force and navy who have strict guidelines, the army seems to take anyone in regardless of their criminal history including felonies as long as they are "done with probation." They will never enlist the draft for they know the war protest would balloon. Wonder who then is made the bigger hypocrites, us or them?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 11:59 | 1656230 Motorhead
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Ben Franklin, bitchez!

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:00 | 1656235 stant
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a great nation would have rebuilt the twin towers in record time, not argue and use it as a political football as was done. as far as i am concerened they might as well paved into a parking lot. and put up a plaque to the victims. real terror atack or not it was americas reichstag fire

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:11 | 1656288 WestVillageIdiot
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At least they are finally rebuilding a lot of office space that is not actually needed.  After 9/11 they built a lot of office space in Midtown and Jersey City.  The only reason to rebuild WTC was if the financial world plans to get even bigger.  God help us on that.  Many of the office buildings in The Financial District have been turned into residential living.  The rebuilding doesn't seem to make economic sense to me. 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:05 | 1656708 zerozulu
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What ever this country is doing since 911 does not make any sense to me.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:19 | 1656315 High Plains Drifter
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they sure as hell moved quickly to remove the evidence at the crime scene.  

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:02 | 1656245 Little John
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When I need to be inspired by Heros, 911 doesn't cross my mind.  Iwo Jima - now those men were HEROS.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:28 | 1656353 High Plains Drifter
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the war in the pacific should have ended after midway. the japanese navy was at the bottom of the ocean. the ones that attacked us at pearl were dead. end of story. all of the other stuff was unnecessary. but needless to say old liar in cheif fdr needed us to go to war so they goaded the japanese into attacking us first to make it look good and allow this creep fdr, a reason to go to war even though he promised we would not. so little johnny went off to war and fought for nothing and died for nothing and the bankers , got richer and we got poorer and white western civilization was setback again with over 50 million dead.........

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:45 | 1656435 RiverRoad
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Right you are.  And how did we "goad" the Japanese?  We set up an oil blockade on them.  That'll do it everytime.  What followed was EXPECTED.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:52 | 1656662 optimator
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The Imperial Japanese Navy had just enough oil to last six months after the embargo.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:54 | 1656666 High Plains Drifter
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why would a tiny country such as japan attack a huge country like the united states?   there had to be a reason and that reason is not talked about much in our history books is it?  and uncle franklin the jew, had all of our battle ships right in a row like sitting ducks so the nips could come in and do a number on our navy and for this over one thousand sheep lost their lives to give the jewish bankers their precious world war and get lots of white anglos killed and permantly destroy the goy nations of the world by forever sinking them into a debt quagmire while at the same time start up the terrorist nation of  israhole, to be located on stolen arab lands in the middle east,  which was the only real reason for ww2. but i digress.....

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:03 | 1656246 JW n FL
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MIT Engineer Jeff King's logical look at the official story of the WTC collapse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8W-t57xnZg&list=FLbRZZAixeFXZfqszvKisEdQ&index=1

 

If you dont know how important that PNAC Document ( PNAC Document Rebuilding America's Defenses ) <-- PDF is..

watch this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uT7kcAu4i8

Then you can download the pdf and see for yourself..

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:08 | 1656720 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1438.htm

a clean break. a new strategy for securing the realm.

these kinds of things are not american. they are not in our best interest. they are not nationalistic. so just whose best interest are these papers prepared for? 911 was planned a long time ago and it took them a long time to get everything together so it would all go according to plan....

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:09 | 1656264 Tense INDIAN
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this is amazingly concentrated  now...stunned..:::

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2009/03/16/six-jewish-companies-own-96-of-the-worlds-media/

 

and what about Energy  , Automobile, BANKING, mining,

etc etc companies ....does anyone have any data....who owns majority of them.....

 

i read somewhere ::"Opel is a wholly owned subsidiary of GM , of which JP Morgan is a majority stake holder"....

 

is that true??

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:32 | 1656375 deepdish
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That article has done its research:

 

Gerald Levin, the chairman and CEO of AOL Time Warner? Well, he left the company summer of 2002... Says it all.

 

 

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:11 | 1656278 strangeglove
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I Love NY
The politicos not so much

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:11 | 1656282 Conrad Murray
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All that money spent, all those lives lost. 10 years later and the buildings aren't even back up. The zionist pigs are richer, the people have less liberty. Fuck 9/11

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:12 | 1656289 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRv34Cat3Vw

beatles singing about the gulag called amerika, a long time ago.....we listened. we heard the music but we didn't understand what they were really talking about. makes you wonder where they get the ideas for this song, doesn't it? if they were smart enough to see what was going on around them, then why were others not as observant? perhaps so many rock and roll bands were controlled and used......so it was and so it is......and so it will always be. just turn on any radio and listen for a while and what do you hear? nothing but bullshit?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:02 | 1656699 High Plains Drifter
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nowhere man lyrics. sounds like us doens't it? somebody was talking to us in the 1960's but we didn't snap to what was happening? 

 

lHe's a real nowhere man,

Sitting in his Nowhere Land,

Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

Doesn't have a point of view,

Knows not where he's going to,

Isn't he a bit like you and me?

Nowhere Man please listen, You don't know what you're missing,

Nowhere Man,the world is at your command! (lead guitar)

He's as blind as he can be, Just sees what he wants to see,

Nowhere Man can you see me at all? Nowhere Man, don't worry,

Take your time, don't hurry, Leave it all till somebody else lends you a hand!

Doesn't have a point of view, Knows not where he's going to,

Isn't he a bit like you and me?

Nowhere Man please listen, you don't know what you're missing

Nowhere Man, the world is at your command!

He's a real Nowhere Man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land,

Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

Making all his nowhere plans for nobody!

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:52 | 1656870 JW n FL
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9C7V_4iEyE

9/11: New Pearl Harbor - MK ULTRA "Eminem Style" [Music Spectrum]

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 17:30 | 1657372 davepowers
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I miss the old tv show of the same name

lasted only one season

filmed in Portland OR

tres cool

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:20 | 1656320 AchtungAffen
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THE EMPEROR HAS PAPER CLOTHES

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:55 | 1656473 JW n FL
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The Emperor has "LIES" in Heavy Rotation on Cable News 24 Hours a Day 7 Days a Week!

We have the boring truth.

The loudest of the Voices theat we have spend better than half their time bitching about aliens!!

Thusly we all look like whacko's as soon as we open our mouths.

We have been undermined by a better organized / better financed group that communicates better with the masses than we do.

Our egos wont let us win. We are NOT! Team Players!! and standing alone we have ZERO Chance of helping our feelow man!

WAKE UP FROM YOUR OWN EGO!

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:57 | 1656483 tmosley
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Normally not a problem, but Obama is a smoker.

lol

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:00 | 1656895 JW n FL
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Relics of Switzerland’s Cold War defences are turning up in surprising places.

Residents of a quiet area of Lucerne were shocked recently to find that explosives had been buried beneath their streets.

 

They were planted there by the Swiss army because the road was judged strategically important; in the event of invasion it would have been blown up.

But local people are angry that they didn’t know what was on their doorstep. They were only informed when the army decided to dig the devices up again.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/Home/Archive/Lucerne_yields_up_explosive_secrets.html?cid=3456984

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:21 | 1656323 Hannibal
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A building's steel beam support columns are packed with Thermate (TH-3) it is placed at intersecting vertical steel T and H support columns at a 45 degree angle, it burns-cuts thru these steel beams like a hot knife cut butter. Inner core beams (elevator shaft etc) are ignited seconds b4 all others sothat the building free falls inwards on it's own footprint.

(Thermate-TH3 (in military use) is 68.7% thermite, 29.0% barium nitrate, 2.0% sulfur and 0.3% binder (such as PBAN).

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:35 | 1656392 High Plains Drifter
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i believe thermite was used to cut the beams. but what was used to cause almost everything to turn to dust ?   that is the question. i think some kind of nuclear devices of some sort, not sure what.  as can be seen by the photos, the planes hit the buildings. then they just sat there burning for a while and the firemen who went up to the areas were the planes had hit the buildings said the fires were just about out up there, yet these buildings that were designed to take multiple hits fell down and turned into  dust...........hmmmm..........amerikas are very stupid to believe the official stories out there. 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:45 | 1656437 TwelfthVulture
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1)   One of the amazing thing about the towers was that there was no internal load bearing beams.  An architectural marvel when they built the damn things.

2)  Jet fuel is kerosine based, the shit don't explode but it will burn.  Doubt it?  It's basically napalm, get some of that burning shit on you and you'll rate a free front page pic on Time magazine.

3)  The site burned until nearly Christmas.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:08 | 1656721 trav7777
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yeah...and likely that all of the buildings that fell were structurally compromised.  Some rumblings that the WTC1 & 2 had severe galvanic corrosion.  These things may have looked like they were made of granite, but in reality they were internally weak.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 18:34 | 1657617 DaveyJones
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structurally compromised to fall just like controlled demolition, now that's an incredibly balanced and designed compromise.  What are those odds?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:21 | 1656564 Juan Wild
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HPD, the dust/ash is a product of thermite reaction. Aluminum oxide ash.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/240406thermiteidentified.htm

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:02 | 1656500 tmosley
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Uh-huh.  So why didn't anyone see anyone installing the LITERALLY THOUSANDS of "thermite packets" that it would have taken to accomplish this?  Why hasn't a single one of the workers installing these things had a crisis of concious or made a deathbed confession?

Because it didn't fucking happen.  Get over it.  Plane hit building, building fall down.  Building not fall at free fall speed, but less than half that.  Building collapse into basement because structural members on the shell of building.

So simple, a caveman can understand it.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:33 | 1656595 total nonsense
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Thank you caveman for your moronic response, oh and the Government has always been truthful. Let me know how the new season of Jersey Shore has been

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:52 | 1656665 tmosley
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Nice strawman.  Now if you only had a brain.

I never said the government always tells the truth.  I just see that the trufer argument is BS.  You can't keep something that explosive unde wraps.  It would have been leaked to one of a dozen leak publishing organizations that have sprung up in the wake of Wikileaks.  Even if you think that Wikileaks is a CIA plant, anonymous sure isn't, and they are in the info leaking game now in a big way.  There are literally thousands of anonymous image boards where you could leak the data.  But no-one has done it.  Out of the THOUSANDS of workers that would have been required to get that done.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:00 | 1656688 TwelfthVulture
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And you would think that with something of this magnitude, killing 3000 of their fellow citizens, at least one of those thousand workers (co-conspirators) would have grown a conscience since that day.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 18:46 | 1657673 DaveyJones
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"thousands of workers" to plant a controlled demolition? tell me one controlled demolition that used that number. It's actually the opposite. Controlled demolition is a distinct skill. Using your logic, are you saying the government can't and has never pulled off a conspiracy that involved a decent number of people? You do know a Bush family member had direct connections with the tower's security company and there were a number of "shutdowns" prior to this event. This logic also avoids the physical evidence of collapse, the immediate removal of the steel in definance of all laws that would aplly to this kind of a terrorist attack, the burning molten steel weeks later, the amazing and unique insurance policy taken out by the new owner and a large host of other evidence. It is completely illogical to use this one piece of logic, however compromised, to make the argument while ignoring all the amazing bits of evidence surrounding this event.   

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:55 | 1656676 Juan Wild
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tmosley, a small team could easily accomplish this task if given enough time. If this event was planned YEARS before, it should have posed no problem. Maybe this team has since been "silenced". So simple, even I can understand it. ;-)

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:11 | 1656729 trav7777
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JFC, what would be the POINT of such a thing?

LET GO of the potent directors fallacy, PLEASE

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 18:51 | 1657697 DaveyJones
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It's amazing that a peak oil pundit would ask this question. Has an empire ever killed for vital resource, ever lied or taken advantage of its own people? Are you saying peak oil is not a profound issue? Are you saying our government never has and never would kill its own? Are you saying our government would never sacrifice most of its populace to benefit a limited number? Are you saying the public would have approved of the iraq invasion without the false and immediate connection between 911 and Iraq?  Are you saying the Bush administration did not fight like hell all the way to the Supreme Court to block the information in Cheney's energy meetings?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 18:59 | 1657721 cranky-old-geezer
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You're gonna lose this debate Trav.  Evidence of controlled demolition is overwhelming.  You have to deliberately ignore it to not see it.

Not knowing WHY the government did it doesn't diminish the fact that they DID IT.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 22:53 | 1658363 OrestesPenthilu...
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Plane hit WTC7.  WTC7 fall down.  Ooops. Even caveman no understand this one.

tmosley - 456,981 great comments, 3 stupid comments.  Still a good ratio.  I'll still read your stuff.

btw your gov't official story for wtc7, which was not hit by anything, which was shielded from towers 1 and 2 by buildings 5 and 6, is that it collapsed because of 'furniture fires'.  And this explanation, by the NIST, came out 7 years after the fact.  Original 911 report ignored building 7.  

I lubs my  gobmint.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:28 | 1656354 Hman
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The 9/11 Equation: Wall Street = Bankers = Federal Reserve = Rothschilds = Zionists.

 

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:14 | 1656739 Juan Wild
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Also, throw in the MIC for the Bush/Cheney connection since Halliburton benefited handsomely from the invasion of Iraq.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military-industrial_complex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw70FV0wdT0

 

Wall Street /Zionists also because of the INCREDULOUSness of attacking "themselves"

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:31 | 1656374 DeltaDawn
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I am female and think like you. Many of my female friends and I are having a difficult time pounding any sense of alarm into our spouses because they are providers tied into the status quo model. I think there is just a % of people with broader situational awAreness or intuition or courage. Of course it would be nice if we married like-thinkers but we don't.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:14 | 1657755 cranky-old-geezer
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There is going to come a time when sheep spouses will be a threat to your well-being, and possibly cause you to die.

I fully recommend getting away from sheep spouses NOW, before they become a danger to your well-being.

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:33 | 1656380 SilverDosed
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I dont know who was behind it, or what their reasons were, probably never will, but I'm pretty certain its been a raging success for them.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:35 | 1656390 digalert
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What's the purpose of the FED again?

Something about STABILITY?!?!?!?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:03 | 1656506 Juan Wild
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obviously, as the above chart shows, its one and only mandate is to DEVALUE THE DOLLAR.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:36 | 1656397 linrom
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Back on 9/11/ 2001 Obama was picking bananas.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:56 | 1656476 Juan Wild
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Now he's POTUS of a banana republic

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:54 | 1656469 The Pop In
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A great source of information for those that are willing to consider view points other than those proffered by Lame Stream Media can be found on Alan Watt's web site "Cutting through The Matrix".

Common sense is not so common - Voltaire

Fear follows crime and is its punishment - Voltaire

Thou shall not kill, unless the government gives the OK - Unknown

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:59 | 1656489 Juan Wild
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The media/press has always wreaked havoc with free, intelligent thought.

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:54 | 1656471 agrotera
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GOD BLESS AMERICA, MY HOME SWEET HOME!!!

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 12:56 | 1656479 Hephasteus
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Yahoo. Is sporting black web pages to honor it. In the original myth people wore black and had funerals at dusk so that the dead wouldn't follow them back home and bug them. I guess black web pages are going to do the same thing.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:03 | 1656502 MsCreant
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Heph,

See my post below and much further above, please. Can you help me out?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:00 | 1656493 MsCreant
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Tyler or Mark,

I feel really frustrated. I asked a question about the chart above earlier in the thread, but few seem to be talking about the chart. I thought the chart was the point of the post. 

We have two sets of numbers. It does not mean 9/11 caused this. And if I am infering meaning Mark did not intend, it would be cool if someone could help me see what he is infering from the chart.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:47 | 1656650 MichaelG
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Click on the 'Across the Street' link and ask your question there. Mark will almost certainly respond.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:30 | 1656798 MsCreant
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I did so, thanks.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:40 | 1656828 JR
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The short answer is wars, including the so-called war on terrorism, can only be waged at this extreme with fiat money, i.e., inflation and fraud.

Nothing strengthens a central government and central control like war.  America emerged from WW II with infinitely more power in the hands of Washington insiders. The same increase in power concentration developed after 9/11. The military industrial complex (translation: banker business) immediately began massive destruction of infrastructure in foreign countries, later to begin massive rebuilding of infrastructure – all at the expense of American citizens and the world’s resources - at the benefit (profit) of Wall Street insiders.

Congress was given a blank check for stimulus, for war, and for social programs to keep their constituencies in full patriotic support. At the same time through insider commodity speculation and the invitation of China to the World Trade Organization, plus NAFTA and GATT, America’s comparative advantage throughout the world diminished.

And, all the while, during the peak months of massive government spending on foreign wars, the Fed was able to provide plenty of fiat money to Congress and the markets to mask over a deepening domestic economic crisis, robbing citizens of their buying power. Even now, in the throes of a world economic crisis, Congress has plenty of money for its projects and the Fed can keep the stock market from tanking. IE, in the midst of an economic crisis, we can have guns and butter and banker bonuses – but not citizen prosperity.

Now that the final bill is being toted up since the Fed took over the total economic life of the nation that produced the greatest economic miracle on earth, the American people find that their nation is broke, having reached the point of debt saturation, and the dollar has lost its purchasing power.  \

Mark fittingly quoted Benjamin Franklin: Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:04 | 1656504 See in the pink
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Building 7, bitchez...

aka short airlines! :p

(http://articles.sfgate.com/2001-09-22/business/17618762_1_ual-stocks-sho...)

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:35 | 1656602 Fix It Again Timmy
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The reason 911 occurred is that TPTB wanted it to occur.  Of course I feel for the families who lost loved ones. I did not watch 1 millisecond of this 10th anniversary bullshit because of the first sentence...

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:39 | 1656611 Moneyswirth
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I have no problem with you fucking truthers spewing your crap throughout the year.  But for fucks sake, try and keep a lid on it just for today.

As for 9/11 ten years later, yeah we lost alot more personal freedoms than most people care to realize.  Somewhere upthread commenters were talking about how insane it is that people are now "OK" with cops looking around their properties without warrants, with airport scanners generating naked images of passengers boarding planes, etc.  Indeed those mullahs in their caves are fucking laughing at us right now for all these things.

And for the record, Flight 93 was shot down by the US military, plain and simple. There were network reports from Shanksville that day, where locals reported hearing an explosion, followed by plane debris landing to the ground.  They also noted they saw military aircraft in the area.  I haven't seen those news clips from those networks since 2001.  Go figure. 

I was a broker working in Tower 2 on that day.  My firm was on the 21st floor, and my bosses were both there for 1993, and when they heard the plane hit, they bolted out and made sure the rest of us got out as well, despite the PA telling us that all was well and we should get back to our offices.  What we saw as we walked through the plaza and as far north as possible, was undescribable insanity and horror and I will never forget. 

We need to have memorials, rememberances, etc.  And as far as I'm concerned, the tape of the planes hitting the towers should be played on an endless loop to remind us of the horrors of that day, and that there is true evil in the world, and it needs to be confronted.  Somehow.

But the media takes things too far and are a tasteless bunch.  Corporate america should pipe the fuck down.  When you keep seeing Budweiser haul out the clydesdales clip-clopping all the way to Ground Zero to hawk more of their beer, you know we definitely lost something.

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:50 | 1656656 Blano
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What I found disgusting today was the host on the Fox pregame show talking about 9/11 while right above both shoulders behind him were the words "The Ford F-150 truck" or close to it.  Pathetic.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:27 | 1656787 Moneyswirth
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Exactly. It's pathetic...

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 18:07 | 1657505 Cathartes Aura
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"Fox pregame"

given where your attention is focused, not sure why you expect otherwise.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:29 | 1657839 cranky-old-geezer
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But for fucks sake, try and keep a lid on it just for today.

Why? 

Today is THE DAY of all days the truth should be discussed.

Victims and survivors of 9/11 have been clamoring for the truth for 10 FUCKING YEARS NOW, and some WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT like you says no truth today.

FUCK YOU and the horse you rode in on.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:15 | 1656749 The Heart
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We knew within weeks after 9/11 that the planes were remote controlled and have rung the alarm bells ever since. The great author Joe Vialls wrote about it describing the "fly-by-wire" remote controlled planes that had this technology in them since the seventies as far as he knew then.

Electronically Hijacking the WTC Attack Aircraft:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/oldsite/article.asp?ID=206

GW, you have done well here researching this subject. Did you ever see this article:

Flight of the Bumble Planes

http://www.public-action.com/911/bumble.html

Ten years after…have we learned anything?

Here is an excellent video by AE for 9/11 truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4

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Pass this around folks and especially send it to those who still think some clown in a cave and 19 guys with box cutters outsmarted our 400 billion dollar NORAD defense system. Also, a big question to ask them is, if fires bring down buildings at the speed of gravity, why doesn’t my BBQ or fireplace grill come crashing down at the speed of gravity when lit and on fire for hours and hours?

Who was responsible for 9/11?

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WTC-911 - THE BASIC QUESTIONS
1-6-03

911 - THE BASIC QUESTIONS

1. Why didn't jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks?
2. Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001?
3. Why were there no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane?
4. Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom?
5. Where was George H. W. Bush at the time of the attacks?
6. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights all use the term box cutters?
7. Where are the flight recorders?
8. Why were the FISA warrants discontinued?
9. How did Bush see the first plane crash on live camera?
10. Why was a security meeting scheduled for 9/11cancelled by WTC management on 9/10?
11. How did they come up with the "culprits" so quickly?
12. How did they find the terrorist's cars at the airports so quickly?
13. Why did Shrub dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force?
14. Why the strange pattern of debris from Flight 93?
15. Why was no plane seen at the Pentagon?
16. How extensive was the relationship between the Taliban, the ISI and the CIA?
17. What exactly was the role of Henry Kissinger at UNOCAL?
18. When was it decided to cancel building a pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan?
19. When was the decision made to send the FEMA to New York?
20. Why did FEMA spokesman Tom Kenney tell Dan Rather he was in New York on Sept. 10?
21. Why did the FBI in 1996 close the files to investigate Osama bin Laden's relatives in Washington?
22. Why did .Bush stop inquiries into terrorist connections of the Bin Laden family in early 2001?
23. Who made the decision to have John O'Neill stop investigating Al-ceada accounts?
24. Who gave the decision to give him a security job at the World Trade Center?
25. Did John O'Neill meet anyone of the FEMA in the night of September 10th?
26. What about media reports that hijackers bought tickets for flights scheduled after Sept. 11?
27. Why did none of the 19 hijackers appeared on the passenger lists?
28. Why would devout Muslims frequent bars, drink alcoholic beverages and leave their bibles?
29. Why would the hijackers use credit cards and allow drivers licenses with photos to be zeroxed?
30. Why did the hijackers force passengers to call relatives?
31. How did the hijackers change the flight plan without law enforcement or the military try to stop them?
32. Which hijacker's passport was found in the WTC rubble? Who found it and what time?
33. How could the FBI distinguish between "regular" Muslims and hijacker Muslims on those flights?
34. Why was there not one "innocent" Muslim on board any of these flights?
35. Did someone go through the passenger lists looking for Muslim names and label them as hijackers?

MOHAMMED ATTA

36. Did the Florida police provide information that Atta was searched because of 1) an expired Visa, 2) driving a car without a license, 3) because of an incident at Miami Airport?
37. Why did Atta leave his bag at the airport and the employees didn't put it on board?
38. Who found his bag? How can we be sure it was his bag?
39. Why did Atta place a video "how to fly planes", a uniform and his last will into his bag, knowing that he would commit suicide?
40. Why did Atta leave his drivers license in a rental car?
41. When did Atta train on a flight simulator?
42. Did Atta leave the US while in training and then return?
43. Why did Atta decide to study at Opa Locka, a famous hub of 6 Navy training bases and includes government partners like U.S. Coast Guard Air Station, Police (Miami-Dade) Aviation Unit?
44. Why was Atta allowed to study since he was stopped by the police for driving without a license and also for violating his visa?

THE BLACK BOXES AND CRASH VIDEO

45. Why were the Black Boxes never recovered?
46. Why didn't the FBI release the air traffic controller's protocols?
47. Why did the FBI not release the Flight Data Recorder info?
48. Who video-recorded the first plane hitting the tower? Why did he disappear from the media?

THE HIJACKERS

49. How did the FBI receive a tip from a passenger who boarded a different plane and reached his destination safely that he had a confrontation with two ME men at the Logan airport in Boston?
50. Who tipped the FBI to storm the Westin Hotel in Boston on September 12th?
51. Where did the photos of all 19 hijackers come from?
52. How were all hijackers identified just 2 days after the attack?
53. Why did all 19 names not appear on the passenger list 2 days after the hijacker list was released?
54. Why do none of the names appear on the passenger lists UA and AA gave to CNN?
55. How could the hijackers disable the defense systems?
56. Why did the FBI ignore Bin Laden's family, who left the United States without further investigation?
57. What about the supposed hijackers who are still alive?
58. Was there a reason to change the list of the original 19 hijackers?
59. What happened to Ayub Ali Khan and Mohammed Jaweed Azmath, who have been in jail since September 2001, because of possession of box cutters on a train? Who gave the tip to arrest them?
60. Why did it take 4 months before Ramsi Binalschibhs name was mentioned, since he was a good friend of Mohammad Atta and lived in his apartment in Hamburg?
61. Why did it take 4 months until December 11 to charge Zacarias Moussaoui for the 9/11 attacks when his case was known worldwide for months, but not mentioned in the American media?
62. Whatever happened with Lotfi Raissi, who was arrested in UK for teaching the terrorist pilots?
63. What is the current status of the investigation of Mamoun Darkazanli Import-Export-Company in Hamburg and Al Taqwa Management Organization in Lugano?
64. Why was Richard Reid able to enter the Paris airport twice and who paid for his hotel?
65. Who hired Zacarias Mouassoui to learn how to fly passenger jets in the United States?
66. Why did the FBI or CIA fail to interrogate him between August and December 2001?

BIN LADEN

67. Did the CIA monitor Bin Laden in 1998 with the help of 15 Afghan agents, paid $1,000/ month?
68. Where are these agents? Was Johnny "Mike" Spann one? Was John Walker Lindh one?
69. Is an Afghan agent a member of the ISI? Is an Afghan agent working for Bin Laden?
70. When was the first time Tenet mentioned the Al-Qaeda group to any member of the Senate?
71. Why did the Pentagon release a new video version or translation of the Bin Laden Home video?
72. Why it was released only 8 hours after translation by the German magazine MONITOR on December?
73. Why were the four translators prior US-Government workers?
74. When was the Bin Laden Home Video found and who found it?
75. Who found the video if Northern Alliance and US troops had not yet arrived in Kandahar or Jahalabad?
76. Does the timestamp on the Bin Laden video indicate that it was found two weeks after it was produced?
77. Why was the public not informed who found the video and when?
78. Why according to MONITOR magazine, were the most controversial statements translated incorrectly?
79. Why was the video released?
80. Who gave the final decision to release it?
81. Why is the Bin Laden video of June 2001 in which he praised the attack, available on the Internet?
82. What about Bin Laden's statements on Al-Jazeera in June 2001 about the bombing of USS Cole, which are similar to the statements on the November 2001 home video?
83. Why did Bin Laden state in Umman Magazine in Sept. 2001, that he was not involved in the WTC?
84. Is Bin Laden still on the payroll of the CIA or ISI?
85. Did the Bin Laden Group Inc. help build Tora Bora with the CIA?
86. What was the purpose of the meeting with General Pervez Musharraf in May 2001?
87. Why was a statement released that Al-Khalifa bin Laden, who is not the mother of Bin Laden, had a telephone call with Bin Laden on September 9, rather than Alia Ghanem, his mother? Why did Alia Ghanem say she did not believe he planned the attack?

ANTHRAX AND MICROBIOLOGIST DEATHS

88. What happened on September 18th, when an employee of Batelle Memorial Institute was involved in a so-called anthrax hoax on that day? Was he arrested?
90. Why did the investigation of that case begin in December 2001?
91. What was in the memo of Dr. Leonard Horowitz, a public health consumer advocate and author of "Death in the Air" on October 1, 2001, almost two weeks before the first anthrax letter was sent from Trenton to the American media building in Boca Raton?
92. What about his letter of Nov. 13 in which he claimed that BAYER is behind the anthrax infections?
93. Did US BioDefense laboratories send the anthrax-laced letters to get a new budget for research?
94. What about the statement of former UN-weapons inspector of Iraq, Richard Spertzel, who told ABC, "...he knows only five scientists in the USA who would be in the situation to produce such a fine, highly developed spore material"?
95. Why did it take 48 hours to inform Bob Stevens that he had anthrax?
96. Why were envelopes never found near Bob Stevens, Amelie Lundgren and Mia Nguyen?
97. How come Microsoft got a hoax anthrax letter from Malaysia on the same day that President Bush said Malaysia might be one of the next targets of the United States?
98. Why did the FBI never investigate the case Don Wiley, a Bioscientist who disappeared 11/13/01?
99. Why did the FBI begin to investigate after his body was found on December 22, 300 miles away?
100. Was there an investigation at the military hydro plant where workers found him?
101. Why did the media write different versions about how, when and where he was found?
102. Why did the police report change 2 months later from suicide to an accident?
103. What was the goal of Bioport in 1997?
104. Did development of anti-anthrax vaccines begin in 1998?
105. When did Bioport decide to produce anthrax vaccines?
106. Was it before or after Sept. 1998 that Admiral Crowe was put in charge of investigations of the August 7, 1998 bombings of Embassy Nairobi and Embassy Dar Es Salaam?
107. Did the schedule for developing anti-anthrax vaccines begin starting in 1998?
108. When did the US Government ask Bayer for help in developing a vaccine?
109. When did Bayer start sending the vaccines to the U.S.?
110. When did Bayer double production of the vaccines?
111. Was the death of Vladimir Pasechnik investigated? He was former director of the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations of the Soviet bio-warfare establishment Biopreparat in November 2001?
112. How are the deaths of scientists Robert M. Schwartz, Dr. Benito Que and Set Van Nguyen explained since all occurred in the same month? Is Set van Nguyen related to the anthrax victim Mia Nguyen?
113. What about the death of Nancy Sonnenfeld (FEMA-Wife)?
114. Why was the NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife examining Anthrax in August 2000?
115. Do any employees in Trenton have the same handwriting as printed on the Anthrax envelopes?
116. Is it just a coincidence that the laboratory is also based in Trenton?
117. Did the FBI ever ask Fort Detrick to examine anthrax spores?
118. What about the list of 15-20 labs (maintained by Barbara Rosenzweig) who used Fort Detrick spores?
119. Does the CIA have spores different from those at Fort Detrick?
120. Why did Tommy Thompson, The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and other Bush cabinet members meet secretly (i.e. illegally) in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force?
121. Why did he decide on October 25, 2001 to ask Congress for another $500 million to produce Acambis's smallpox vaccine?
122. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki, Director Palm Beach County Health Department, picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building, Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again?
123. Did Walter Gilbert, Director Myriad Genetics ever get official permission from relatives of those killed at WTC to examine their DNA?

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES

124. Why did General Mahmud Ahmad, former head of the ISI quit his position?
125. Why did retaliation against the Taliban begin the day he stepped down?
126. Who in the ISI paid $100.000 to Mohammad Atta?
127. Why does Ahmad think that another secret service was involved in the WTC attack?
128. Which Secret Service was he referring to?
129. Did other ISI official's believe that?
130. Did officials of the CIA believe that?
131. Did some officials of the Mossad believe that?
132. What was the purpose of Ahmad's visit to Washington on 9/11?
133. Who told Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov to abort an air strike against Afghanistan in May 2000?
134. Did Russian intelligence notify the CIA in 2001 that 25 terrorist pilots had been training for suicide missions, as reported in the Russian press?

KISSINGER

1. What did Kissinger mean that an "outside threat from beyond", a "world government" and "individual rights" who are "willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted", what you mentioned in 1991 on a Bilderberg Conference?
2. What was his role at UNOCAL?
3. Is he in contact with representatives of these companies or institutions:
4. What did he discuss at the Bilderberg meeting last year in May 2001?
5. What was the purpose of his meeting with Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov in July 2001?
6. Why does he write in "Toward a New Diplomacy for the 21st Century" that America doesn't need a Foreign Policy?
7. When was the last time Henry Kissinger met US-Ambassador in Pakistan, Robert Oakley?

THE PURCHASE OF AIRLINE PUT OPTIONS

1. Is it true that the CIA is in possession of PROMIS software?
2. What is the purpose of PROMIS?
3. Did A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard, CIA, own any stocks of United Airlines, American Airlines, Merrill Lynch,
4. Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re.?
5. What is his connection to Alex Brown, Deutsche Bank?
6. Did he give any insider information about to George Tenet, CIA?
7. Who was the investor who purchased 2,000 UAL put options between August and September 11, 2001?
8. Did Deutsche Bank-Alex Brown own any stocks of UA, AA, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re?
9. What about the 2,500 UA-contracts which were "split into 500 chunks each, directing each order to different U.S. exchanges around the country simultaneously." on August 10, 2001?
10. Did Deutsche purchase UAL options in August 2001?
11. Why did DB-AB purchase 4,744 put options on United Air Lines stock as opposed to only 396 call s on September 6-7? What was the purpose of doing that?
12. What is the connection to Wally Kromgaard?
13. Did Deutsche Bank or Wally Kromgaard purchase 4,516 put options on American Airlines as compared to 748 call options on September 10?
14. What was the reason of Mayo Shattuck III re-assignment on September 15th?

THE TALIBAN AND THE CARPET OF GOLD.

1. When was the last time they met any representatives of the US-Government?
2. What was the purpose of these meetings?
3. Do the Taliban know Karl E. Inderfurth and State Department counterterrorism Chief Michael Sheehan?
4. Do they know which US-Representative said in February 2001: "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs"?
5. When was the last time the Taliban was in touch with this representative?
6. Did Abdul Haq, the former Mujahedin leader executed Sept 2001 by the Taliban, decide in winter 2000 to attack the Taliban?
7. Did production of opium in Afghanistan fall from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 tonnes in 2001?

GLOBAL HAWK TECHNOLOGY

1. Was Global Hawk technology able to remotely control unmanned planes in 1999 for 27 hours?
2. Did Northrop-Grumman use Global Hawk technology in the war in Afghanistan since October 2001?
3. What is the purpose of unmanned technology?
4. Is Northrop in contact with any engineers of Boeing?
5. Did Northrop install Global Hawk technology in a commercial airplane?

CARRIER AND TROOP MOVEMENTS BEFORE SEPT 11

1. Did two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast before 9/11?
2. Did 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation 'Bright Star' on 9/11? What was the purpose of both of these operations?

BIOCHEMICAL WARFARE

1. When did Tommy Franks learn that he would use Thermobarics in Tora Bora?
2. Does he know if it had been tested on December 12 in Nevada?
3. Who told Franks that Bin Laden might hide in Tora Bora?
4. Is the main purpose of Thermobarics to destroy buried bio and chemical stocks?
5. Was Thermobarics developed for the purpose to use one day in Iraq?
6. When was the first time Franks used Thermobarics?
7. Was it before or after the announcement of the end of ABM Treaty on December 11?
8. When did the US decide to use B61-11, the "nuclear version" of its "conventional" BLU-113 counterpart?
9. Why has the NSA destroyed data collected on Americans or US companies since the Sept. 11 attacks?

ABORTED ATTEMPTS TO GET BIN-LADEN

1. Why did Clinton abort an attack on Bin Laden in October 1999?
2. Who was responsible for that operation?
3. Why was the operation put on hold?
4. Why did Musharraf halt a covert operation to attack Bin Laden in October 1999?
5. Why did the GOP in Congress stop almost every move Clinton made against terrorism? They refused to believe reports and pass necessary legislation. In 1996 Clinton proposed a very extensive anti-terrorism regulation.

RICHARD REID

1. Who hired Richard Reid to threaten a passenger plane in Paris?
2. Who did he send an email to in Pakistan?
3. Has he ever been in touch with the ISI or CIA?
4. Did he know the difference between an explosive and a detonator?
5. How many ounces did he have in his shoes?
6. What size are his shoes?
7. Who build or prepared his shoes?

JOHN WALKER LINDH

1. Has John Walker Lindh ever been in touch with the CIA?
2. Did he ever work for the CIA?
3. Who arrested him in 2001?
4. Why didn't he escape in the tumult to nearby Masar-e-Sharif?
5. Who hired his lawyer, Richard Brohanan? Who paid his lawyer?
6. Why didn't he go to Guantanamo Bay?

DICK CHENEY

1. When did Cheney stop working for Halliburton?
2. Is he still in possession of any Halliburton stock?
3. Is he still in contact with Halliburton?
4. Was Halliburton invited to an oil conference in May 2002?
5. Does Cheney know when that meeting was planned?
6. Did Cheney have influence concerning Halliburton contracts with the Pentagon?
7. What exactly did Cheney decide to do on September 11th?
8. Did he speak with an Air Force Commander or Lt. Gen. Charles F. Wald on that day?
9. When did he inform the president about the hijacked airplanes on September 11?
10. Who called the White House on September 11 at 9:30 PM about a possible threat?
11. Why was no air security at the White House or the Pentagon at 9:30 PM?
12. When and who gave the approval to evacuate the White House at 9:45 PM?
13. What was the purpose of a meeting with Indian opposition leader Sonia Gandhi in June 2001 about a multimillion-dollar debt owed to Enron from a major energy project in Indian Power Plants?
14. When was the last time Cheney spoke with anyone from ENRON?

COLIN POWELL

1. What was the role of Colin Powell?
2. Who decided to give $43 million in aid to the Taliban regime in May 2001?
3. Did he know that production of opium in Afghanistan fell from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 in 2001?
4. What was the purpose of his decision to treat the Taliban prisoners as War Prisoners? Is this decision in any way related to media reports 2 days earlier that Powell may have been involved in negotiations with Indian Power Plants?
5. What was the purpose of his short trip to Latin America on September 11?
6. Who decided that he fly to Latin America on that day?
7. Why would someone threaten him in Afghanistan on January 17, 2002 as Newsweek reported?
8. What was the purpose of Powell meeting with India's foreign minister on April 6, 2001?
9. Did Enron or Cheney ask Powell to help collect a $64 million debt on an Indian plant project?

GEORGE H.W. BUSH

1. When was the last time George H.W. Bush traveled to South Arabia on behalf of the Carlyle Group?
2. What was the purpose of that meeting?
3. Why was Bush Sr. in Dealy plaza the day Kennedy was assassinated?
4. What connection did Bush Sr. have with the Gulf of Tonkin?

THOMAS WHITE

1. Is Thomas White still in contact with ENRON?
2. Did his contact at anytime influence his decisions?
3. Does he still own ENRON stocks?

DELMART VREELAND

1. Did Vreeland warn Canadian Intelligence in May 2001 about possible terrorist
attacks on New York and the Pentagon?
2. Did he place the warning in an envelope while in prison in Toronto, Canada?
3. Where did he get his information?
4. Whom did he give the envelope to?
5. Why was he placed in jail?

SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP.COM

1. Was the domain created on September 11th, 2000?
2. Who paid for that domain?
3. Are they also owners of Iridium Satellites?
4. When did they end contact with relatives of the Bush family?

THE CARLYLE GROUP

1. When was the last time George H.W. Bush traveled to Saudi Arabia on behalf of the privately owned Carlyle Group, the 11th largest defense contractor in the U.S.?
2. What was the purpose of that meeting?
3. When did he resign from Carlyle Group?
4. Is he still in touch with any of their representatives?

STEPHEN LANDER, Director MI5

1. Did Lander monitor a phone conversation between Zacarias Moussaoui and Richard Reid in Dec. 2000?
2. What did Lander tell representatives of the CIA about Zacarias Moussaoui?
3. Why did he stop monitoring Djamel Beghal, member of Takfir-wal-Hijra (financed by Osama bin Laden) in August 2001?

BIN LADEN IN DUBAI

1. Did Bin Laden in July 2001 enter an American hospital in Dubai?
2. Did he arrive on July 4, 2001 on a flight from Qetta, Pakistan to American Hospital? 3. Was he at the hospital July 4-11, 2001?
4. Did Bernard Koval, CEO of American Hospital, ever speak with Doctor Terry Callaway about that visit?
5. Why did he change his statements about this story not being true and that he "asked around"?
6. What is the difference between Continuous Ambulatory Peritoneal Dialysis and Continuous Cycling Peritoneal Dialysis?
7. Did Koval know Larry Stevens?
8. Can Koval explain why Richard Labeviere, author of "Terror Dollars" (about illegal Al-Qaeda accounts), wrote the story about Osama Bin Laden's kidney operation?

GEORGE W. BUSH

1. What exactly happened on September 11 and at what time was President Bush informed?
2. Why was President Bush scheduled to visit a school in Florida?
3. Who scheduled the time of the visit?
4. When exactly did Bush learn about the first crash into the WTC?
5. How could he have seen that on TV?
6. Why didn't he interrupt his school meeting as soon as he learned of the first plane crash?
7. Did Bush ever wonder how Bin Laden was able to hear the first plane crash live on the radio?
8. Which radio station he was listening to?
9. Can Bush explain how Bin Laden's Home Video was found only two weeks after it was produced?
10. Why did Bush decide to release Bin Laden's Home Video?
11. What is the purpose of the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC) in Fort Benning, Georgia, where terrorists have been trained for undercover agents in South America? Bush stated "if any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents, they have become outlaws and murderers themselves". So what does he think about Fort Benning?
12. What is the role of Zalmay Khalilzad (former UNOCAL) in the National Security Council?
13. What is the current role of Zalmay Khalilzad (former UNOCAL) in Afghanistan?
14. When was Bush's last contact with anyone from ENRON?
15. Why was China admitted to the WTO on September 13 after 15 years of unsuccessful attempts?
16. Why did Bush postpone the release of Ronald Reagan's records?
17. How does Bush feel about the need to investigate the CIA's mistakes?
18. Does Bush agree with senators John McCain, Joseph I. Lieberman, Porter J. Goss, former C.I.A. clandestine case officer and a Florida Republican, Richard C. Shelby and Ron Paul, US Congressman, who want an investigation and have said "Secret government is winning out over open government"?
19. Did he know before he left his hotel that morning on the way to the school that the 1st tower had been hit? ABC news reported that morning that he was asked by reporters if he was aware of events in NYC and he answered yes. If so, why did he later say he first heard of it was when he was at the school?
20. Why did Bush continue to sit in that classroom reading to children when he should have been conferring with his advisors?
21. Why did Bush say that he and Card initially thought it was an accident involving a small plane?
22. Given all the information sources available to the POTUS and his staff how could his people not have known the kind of plane involved?
23. Why didn't they know at this point, as did the FAA and NORAD, that aircraft were hijacked? The Battalion Chief in the 9/11 video was seen and heard asking for military backup immediately after the building was hit.
24. How come the NYFD knew it was terrorism right away but the POTUS and his aides just calmly went about their business?

TONY BLAIR

1. Were 25,000 British troops and the largest British Armada since the Falkland Islands War, part of Operation 'Essential Harvest' pre-positioned in Oman, the closest point on the Arabian Peninsula to Pakistan before September 11, 2001?
2. When did he begin to place SIS-Special Forces in Afghanistan? Why?
3. Is Tony Blair a bi-sexual?

THE SUN-SENTINEL

1. Did Gloria Irish own unit 1504 at the Delray Racquet Club, 755 Dotterel?
2. Did she rent that property to Hamza Alghamdi in August 2001?
3. Why did the media not report about a connection of the Sun-Sentinel and the hijackers?
4. Why did it first appear that the hijackers had something to do with the anthrax attacks?
5. Why has this connection or coincidence never appeared in the media again?
6. What was the connection between husband Michael Irish (Sun Sentinel) and Bob Stevens (who died from Anthrax)?

WARNINGS

1. When did Vladimir Putin warn the CIA about a possible terrorist attack and what was their reaction?
2. What was the purpose of the meeting between Christina Rocca, director of Asian affairs at the State Department and the Taliban ambassador Mollah Abdul Salam Zaeef in Islamabad in August 2001?
3. Why did she oversee the delivery of Stinger missiles in the 80s to Afghan mujaheddin?
4. Did Walid Arkeh in Seminole County jail inform the FBI in August 2001 about an attack on America? What was the reaction of the FBI?
5. Why did Dr. Jeffrey Starr, U.S. department of defense, visit Tajikistan in Jan 2001?
6. When did Jean-Claude Cousseran, Director DGSE, and French Secret Service inform the CIA about terrorist attacks on America? What was their reaction?
7. What does he know about the monitoring of Djamel Beghal, member of Takfir-wal-Hijra (financed by Osama bin Laden) and Kamel Daoudi? Did he ever inform the CIA about that? And when?
8. When did Italian Deputy Prime Minister Gianfranco Fini inform the CIA about a possible attack on the American president "with the use of an airplane"? What was their reaction?
9. When did President Mubarak, Egypt, inform the CIA about a possible attack on America with an "airplane stuffed with explosives"? What was their reaction?
10. When did Efraim Halevy, Director of Mossad since 1998 (unconfirmed) inform the CIA about a possible attack with "200 terrorists" on America? What was their reaction?
11. Is it true he warned Ariel Sharon not to travel to New York on September 11 to speak at a festival?
12. Did a caller to Loxley Banks, Director Radio Cayman Islands talk show, give several warnings of an imminent attack on the U.S on Sept. 3 -10?
13. The London Times reported that someone from the FAA warned Salman Rushdie not to travel to the United States on September 3rd? If this is true, who was it?
14. Did the FBI investigate the two men who met Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi in Harry's Bar at the Helmsley Hotel in Manhattan on September 8, 2001?
15. Who does Abdullah Abdullah (Northern Alliance) believe killed Commander Ahmad Shah Massoud on September 9, 2001?
16. When and why did he decide to attack Kabul on September 11 at 5:30 PM?
17. When did he decide to invade Masar-i-Scharif?
18. Did the CIA help him provoke a tumult?
19. Did he ever meet John Walker Lindh?
20. Why was Major John Kenny, Commander Wright Patterson Air Base, Dayton placedon high alert on September 10? Did he inform companies in Dayton to shutdown their offices?
21. Why was Colonel William M. Dietrich, Commander Defense Language Institute in Garrison, Monterey on high alert on September 10?
22. Why did one of Kenneth (Ken) Weinbrecht (President SAMS) executives say on September 10, that he was a Wildcard? Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.'"
23. Did Jean-Louis Bruguiere, French anti-terrorism, inform the CIA on September 10 about a possible terrorist attack? If so, what was their reaction?
24. Why did Atta and hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari checke into a Portland, Maine motel (unidentified) on September 10?
25. Why was the Portland, Airport, according to eye-witnesses, in full charge of more military officials and soldiers than usual, weeks before September 11, 2001?
26. Why, as the San Francisco Chronicle reported, was Mayor Brown warned to be "cautious in your travel" the night of September 10? Who warned him?
27. Why did Alex Diamandis, Odigo Vice President of Sales and Marketing, receive a warning on his messenger service about a possible attack on America on September 11, 2001? At which time?
28. When did Dr. August Hanning, President BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany) inform the CIA that "Middle Eastern terrorists are 'planning to hijack commercial aircraft?” What was their reaction? Did he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in summer 2001 about an attack on America? What was their reaction?

AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL/GLOBAL HAWK

1. Why did Kenneth Waldie, Stanley Hall, Herbert Homer and Peter Gay of Raytheon travel on Sept. 11?
2. Can Global Hawk technology be used for at least 27 hours?
3. Is Global Hawk technology used in commercial airplanes?
4. Did Danielle O'Brien, air traffic controller, inform another air traffic control center about a plane traveling fast southwest of Dulles after spotting it 8:18 AM on September 11?
5. Who was informed and what happened?

THE PENNSYLVANIA CRASH

1. Why didn't Dr. James G. Roche, Secretary of the Air Force try to reach the airplanes in NYC (7 minutes time for McGuire AFB in New Jersey ) and at the Pentagon (10 minutes time)?
2. Did Roche ever try to shutdown the plane in Pennsylvania?
3. Can Roche explain why magazines of that plane were found 20 miles away from the crash? Andrews AFB is 13 miles away. He had one hour and fifteen minutes to respond to the plane that hit the Pentagon. What happened during that time?
4. Can he explain why many ear- and eye witnesses, including workers of the road construction company New Enterprise saw or heard F-16 jets?
5. Why did President Bush say only one week later that he tried to shutdown that plane?
6. Who gave that decision?

DEFENSE ALERTS AND MOVEMENTS

1. Why did George Bush leave Barksdale Air Force Base aboard Air Force One and flew to an Air Force base in Nebraska on 1:48 PM on September 11 and returned to Washington at 4:30 PM?
2. What exactly did Donald Rumsfeld do that day before he arrived at the Pentagon around 3:55 PM?
3. How did Rumsfeld know at 5:30 PM on September 11 that the plane in Pennsylvania could have been headed for one of three possible targets: Camp David, the White House or the U.S. Capitol building?
4. Can he explain why early media reports told us that no squadrons of combat-ready fighter jets have been at Andrews and later changed their reports that they haven't been on high alert only?
5. Why was Air Force Lt. Col. Vic Warzinski, another Pentagon spokesman, so sure on September 11 that aircraft was coming your way?
6. What did the D.C. Air National Guard in Washington do on September 11?
7. Can he explain what those 3 fighters did from 9:40AM until 9:55AM when they finally turned towards Flight 93 and were 60 miles out at 10:06am?
8. Can he explain why Air Traffic Controllers in a Nashua Telegraph article did report an F-16 was circling Flight 93 and was in visual range at the time of crash?
9. Can he confirm a witness report that National Guard F-16's have been at Hancock field in Syracuse NY in the air early that morning before 9AM?
10. How could the hijackers know how to disable defense systems?
11. What was the official reason that fighters of the 305th Air Wing, McGuire Air Force Base, NJ did not intercept the 2nd hijacked plane in NYC? This would have been possible within 7 minutes after 8:48 AM
12. Why did none of the 459th Aircraft Squadron (Andrews AFB) fighters intercept the plane which crashed into the Pentagon? Andrews AFB is 10 miles from Washington DC.
13. Col. Ken McClellan, Air Force spokesman said on September 11, that Mohammad Atta attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell/Gunter Air Force Base in Montgomery, and was seen by eye-witnesses? What was McClellan doing there? Why did he later deny the report?
14. Why did he decide not to shutdown ECHELON base Bad Aibling in Germany as planned for 2002?
15. What is the reason that none of any Air Force fighters reached the hijacked plane in time?
16. Many eye- and witnesses think that the plane in Pennsylvania was shot down. What is the scientific explanation why the magazine of the airplane was found many miles away?
17. Why did Jack Kelly, idefense.com, inform USA Today only 12 minutes after the first crash (8:48AM) that terror groups using Web encryption may have been responsible? And why was he so sure before the second crash at 9:03 PM?
18. Did Kelly serve with the U.S. government where he managed several significant programs for the information warfare and intelligence communities?
19. Did Joseph J. Esposito, Chief of NYPD try to contact the Pentagon at 9:06 AM on September 11? What was their reaction?
10. Why didn't General Elwood "Pete" Quesada of the FAA inform President Bush between 8:15 and 9:05 about four simultaneously hijacked planes? Who did he inform and what was their reaction?

THE WTC COLLAPSE

1. What does Nicholas Scoppetta of FDNY know about the latest reports of the WTC destruction?
2. Can he explain why many witnesses saw and heard more than two explosions in the WTC?
3. Can he explain why both Twin Towers and Building 7 collapsed in that way?
4. Can he explain why a gas tank was in Building 7?
5. Can he explain why there were no passengers in the subway under the WTC?
6. Can he explain why there was no guard at the gold reservoir under the WTC?
7. Why did Dr. Jeffrey P. Koplan, Director CDC prepare, as CNN reported, emergency-response teams on September 11 at 11:16 PM?

MISCELLANEOUS

1. When did Dr. August Hanning, President BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany) inform the CIA that "Middle Eastern terrorists are 'planning to hijack commercial aircraft?" What was their reaction? Did he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in summer 2001 about an attack on America? What was their reaction?
2. When did Tayseer Allouni, Kabul correspondent Al-Jazeera, receive his first video from Bin Laden? Can he explain why the first video on October 7 2001, the day of the retaliation, looked like it was recorded in the morning?
3. Did Tom Simmons (former U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan), Karl Inderfurth (former Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian affairs) and Lee Coldren (former State Department expert on South Asia) decide or announce in a July 2001 meeting that an attack was planned on the Taliban in October 2001?
4. Why did Ms. Barbara Bodine, US ambassador to Yemen stop John O'Neill from investigating Al-Qaeda accounts in July 2001?
5. Did Niaz Niak, former Pakistani Foreign Secretary say in mid July 2001 that the USA planned military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban?
6. Did Hameed Gul, retired Pakistani general of Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence, say that a secret service was involved in the attack on America?
7. Why did Tommy Thompson, The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and other Bush cabinet members meet secretly (i.e. illegally) in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force? Why did he decide on October 25, 2001 to ask Congress for another $500 million to produce Acambis's smallpox vaccine?
8. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki, Director Palm Beach County Health Department, picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building, Boca Raton? This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again?
9. Why did Mayor Guilani sell WTC rubble to India for recycling and also China? Who made that decision?
10. What was the purpose of U.S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain's phone call on October 10, 2001 to the Pakistani oil minister? Why was she sure that a previously abandoned Unocal pipeline from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to the Pakistani coast for the purpose of selling oil and gas to China, was back on the table in view of recent geopolitical developments?
11. What exactly was found on Z. Moussaoui's computer after 9/11, when local agents were given a Federal Intelligence Security Act (FISA) warrant, which they had requested six weeks previously? This ties directly into the question of the administration's dealings with the Taliban, its reluctance to investigate Saudi nationals, etc.
12. Why the attack on Cynthia McKinney for asking: 1) why has there been no investigation of the 9-11 attack? and 2) did Bush/CIA/NSA know of it beforehand, and allow it to happen?
13. Why is the Bush administration so strongly against a real investigation into the events of 9-11?
14. Why did the US give 43 million dollars to Afghanistan back in May or June of 2001? 15. Why did Bush toss the Hart-Rudman terror security study (developed over a 2 year period) and instead assign responsibility to Cheney and FEMA?
16. Why did Ashcroft stops flying commercial, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001? Why did the FBI and Justice not identify the form, origin and time of the threat?
17. Why did Bush stay in Texas for the month of August and Cheney in Wyoming?
18. Why no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane? And there's not a single credible frame of film or second of video of this? Also, why hasn't a similar flight path graphic ever been published?
19. Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom a half-second after Andy Card told him, "Mr. President, the nation is under attack"?
20. Why did they leave him exposed to danger for two and a half minutes in the classroom and another half-hour in the school before he returned to the relative safety of Air Force One?
21. Where was George H. W. Bush at the time of the attacks?
22. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights tell people on the ground that the hijackers had "box cutters"?
23. Where are the flight recorders?
24. How did they find a passport that just "happens" to belong to one of the hijackers in the WTC rubble and they can't locate even ONE flight recorder?
25. Why no investigative reporting of the Pentagon scene? The photos do not show much, but then photographers were not allowed, initially, to photograph the scene, if I remember correctly.
26. Why was the series of recommendations Al Gore also put together in 1996 on airport security called by Republican congress "paranoid" and too harsh. Why did the airline industry, lobbying against it, consider it too expensive and impractical?
27. Why was the Hart-Rudman report on the potential dangers of terrorism in the homeland? The results of the research ignored by Bush?
28. Why were FISA warrants disallowed by Bush?
29. Why did the US pull the plug on Muslim websites Monday September 10, 2001?
30. Why did the Saudi bin-Laden-group have a website with a PRE-SET expiration date of Sept. 11, 2001?
31. Why were the bin Ladens flown out of the U.S. on private jets the day after the 9/11?
32. Why did Cheney say that everyone in the White House started taking Cipro on September 12 when the first anthrax letter wasn't postmarked until September 18?
33. Why did Bush dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force? What would have happened had this focused and knowledgeable group been in place 9 months before 911?
34. Why was metallic debris found 8 miles from the crash site of the plane that went down in Penn? They said it went straight down and left a small hole in the ground. If they found metallic debris from the plane 8 miles away it was either shot down or a bomb exploded in the plane.
35. Why did they not let the media or any reporters take video or photos of the crash site?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:15 | 1657088 Everybodys All ...
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Where are all the Democrats on your list?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:21 | 1656768 High Plains Drifter
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the irish are kicking the usa team's ass in rugby. those boys need to pull their heads out of their asses and react to the damn ball. gads. yes they are better than you. so what. kill them........do what you have to do ......no gentlemen's club here .....american rugby is about killing the guy with the ball..........ha ha ha 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:55 | 1656876 mkanterm
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Instead of hating on the fact that the terrorist attacks that occured on 9/11 changed the way that national security is looked at in this country, we should remember what the new measures have accomplished, what the global war on terror has done in stopping more, potentially worse attacks. We should also remember where we were on that grave day, and of course the memories of lost loved ones.

I can honestly say that I was a young, nieve child 10 years ago. I remember sitting in 5th grade class, during story time, when my teacher was disrupted by a phone call, gasped, and burst out into tears. I remember watching this unfold in front of the class, but no one knew what was happening. In fact, she was instructed to tell us nothing. About an hour after the first attack, they told us exactly what had transpired. Around 9:30, my parents, who both worked in Manhattan at the time, returned to suburban Mamaroneck NY and picked me up from school. Still, as a young child, I did not really know what was going on, so I took the short school day, the return of my parents, as a gift. I guess it truly was a gift that we were all ok.

I returned home and, as any sports addicted, 11 year old would do, turned on ESPN only to see video of the planes hitting the Worl Trade Center, and this image has been implanted in my brain ever since. We know people who lost their lives in these tragedies. I have seen the devastation that it has caused in families. It is truly remarkable how resilient these people are, how strong community, family, and, for some, religion has allowed these people to recover, albeit with a hole in their heart.

I am now a junior in college at the University of Michigan, studying in the Ross School of Business. I have learned much in the ten years between being an innocent 11 year old and the 20 year old adult that I am today.

I write all of this to completely contradict all of the negativity that exists on this page. To all of those that are claiming that the measures taken post-9/11 to ensure our safety, the will of governments globally to crack down, albeit while taking away some freedoms, in coordinated (maybe, ahem Pakistan ahem), multilateral attempts, is stunning. We have not seen coordination against a common enemy like this since, probably, WW2. What I am getting at is that, to all of the haters, put yourself in the shoes of a New Yorker, a DC resident, etc., and just try to even contemplate what it would feel like to lose someone in these attacks. Personally, if the government has successfully prevented any more civilians from being put in the line of danger, if I and my neighbors are safer, than God bless the government.

I guess, to sum it up, the fact that all of you are hating on the new policies for a new age, I will say that you could not imagine what it would be like to have your spouse/sibling/etc brutally, arbitrarily, and randomly murdered in an awful, painful way and that all of you really have no right to speak. The fact is that the government's job is to protect your saftey, so let them do it. Otherwise, hire your own army, pay for your own national security, and buy all of your own missiles/helicopters/fighter jets/etc. and pay for all of that. Myself, I will cherish the memories of lost loved ones, and thank the government for not letting any more large scale, devastating attacks take place on American soil.

God bless the USA and god bless the memories of all of those lost in the horrific attacks on 9/11.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:08 | 1656914 Sledge
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good boy take your pills

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:11 | 1656924 MsCreant
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Really constructive reply...

If you have a position I sure as hell don't know what it is. He put a lot of effort into posting that. You did not.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:28 | 1656974 Aragorn
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I think Sledge meant the school boy should continue with the central commitee's blue pill program.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:55 | 1656877 mkanterm
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Instead of hating on the fact that the terrorist attacks that occured on 9/11 changed the way that national security is looked at in this country, we should remember what the new measures have accomplished, what the global war on terror has done in stopping more, potentially worse attacks. We should also remember where we were on that grave day, and of course the memories of lost loved ones.

I can honestly say that I was a young, nieve child 10 years ago. I remember sitting in 5th grade class, during story time, when my teacher was disrupted by a phone call, gasped, and burst out into tears. I remember watching this unfold in front of the class, but no one knew what was happening. In fact, she was instructed to tell us nothing. About an hour after the first attack, they told us exactly what had transpired. Around 9:30, my parents, who both worked in Manhattan at the time, returned to suburban Mamaroneck NY and picked me up from school. Still, as a young child, I did not really know what was going on, so I took the short school day, the return of my parents, as a gift. I guess it truly was a gift that we were all ok.

I returned home and, as any sports addicted, 11 year old would do, turned on ESPN only to see video of the planes hitting the Worl Trade Center, and this image has been implanted in my brain ever since. We know people who lost their lives in these tragedies. I have seen the devastation that it has caused in families. It is truly remarkable how resilient these people are, how strong community, family, and, for some, religion has allowed these people to recover, albeit with a hole in their heart.

I am now a junior in college at the University of Michigan, studying in the Ross School of Business. I have learned much in the ten years between being an innocent 11 year old and the 20 year old adult that I am today.

I write all of this to completely contradict all of the negativity that exists on this page. To all of those that are claiming that the measures taken post-9/11 to ensure our safety, the will of governments globally to crack down, albeit while taking away some freedoms, in coordinated (maybe, ahem Pakistan ahem), multilateral attempts, is stunning. We have not seen coordination against a common enemy like this since, probably, WW2. What I am getting at is that, to all of the haters, put yourself in the shoes of a New Yorker, a DC resident, etc., and just try to even contemplate what it would feel like to lose someone in these attacks. Personally, if the government has successfully prevented any more civilians from being put in the line of danger, if I and my neighbors are safer, than God bless the government.

I guess, to sum it up, the fact that all of you are hating on the new policies for a new age, I will say that you could not imagine what it would be like to have your spouse/sibling/etc brutally, arbitrarily, and randomly murdered in an awful, painful way and that all of you really have no right to speak. The fact is that the government's job is to protect your saftey, so let them do it. Otherwise, hire your own army, pay for your own national security, and buy all of your own missiles/helicopters/fighter jets/etc. and pay for all of that. Myself, I will cherish the memories of lost loved ones, and thank the government for not letting any more large scale, devastating attacks take place on American soil.

God bless the USA and god bless the memories of all of those lost in the horrific attacks on 9/11.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:14 | 1656915 MsCreant
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I don't believe, today, that the government did it. I am open to the possibility though given what we have learned from history that governments are capeable of.

Let me ask you this, would your perspective change IF you learned that our government:

  • Had info they did not act on and "let it happen" because it furthered an agenda.
  • Engineered the attacks to further an agenda.

I know mine would. I have a hard time believing the series of things that would need to be coordinated, were coordinated. Meanwhile I have colleagues that I respect in the sciences who believe our own government did it.

Thanks for having the courage to post such a controversial post. I bet you will hear ugly things. Those folks will be wrong, you have your perspective and it is valid.

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 18:35 | 1661658 MsCreant
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That was worthwhile.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:59 | 1657058 Uncle Remus
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MsCreant, with all due respect, your comment struck me as patronizing bullshit.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:29 | 1657132 MsCreant
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Cool. In a sense it is, but hear me out.

I am a mother, bitchez. I am also a professor. In both roles, sometimes you have to put some honey in with some medicine and administer it slowly. If you want to shock your audience (as a public speaker) best not to make it personal or you will turn off your student and the rest of the audience. Make alliances. 

Fight club is more than just punching the shit out of folks.

I read that comment from a kid who wants the world to be a wholesome and good place. I want that, fuck man, it is what hurts so bad about what is going on. I want that wholesome place, I want the constitution to be real, and for the law to mean something. It is not his fault he has been raised inside a myth. I think it took courage to post that. He posted it because he wants to challenge himself and the board. Bravo! Don't we have room here for perspectives other than our own?

I am undecided, always have been, about the 9/11 stuff. You and I have seen some serious fighting, elsewhere, on this topic. Friends broke up over it, made me sad. Me, I would think myself arrogant to claim I KNEW the gov did it or didn't do it. I can't know. But the discussion is important because so many folks distrust our government so much that they are willing to decide that they do know because it follows a pattern they see over and over again.

He wants the world to add up and make sense. So yeah, I will patronize a little bit, and also ask him to consider other possibilities. Eveyone raining hell down on his head is not going to wake him up or open his eyes. HE HAS A VALID PERSPECTIVE given where he is positioned and what he knows, here, now. 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 17:31 | 1657379 Uncle Remus
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Why is a 20 year old a kid? Does a longer life span entitle one to a longer childhood? I'm a father and am fairly certain my own son harbored far fewer idealistic misconceptions at age 20 than this young man does.

I understand what you are saying, but I view it as a disservice to him and to his generation. The world is full of SOBs like Dick Cheney et al who are all to willing the shove unsuspecting youth into the gaping maw of death and destruction, blinded by symbolism and emotion.

Cynical by 16 I say.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 17:50 | 1657439 MsCreant
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Mine has been cynical since he was very little. But then again, I raised him. And you raised yours. 

He saw "The End of Suburbia" at 9 and told me it was scary because it was like a horror movie, but real.

You cannot ask folks to magically see it like we do and attack them when they don't and expect them to see your point of view when they may not have had access to the info/socializaion we have. It does not happen magically.

Men and women do this, if we were married, you'd be pissed I was babying the kid and I'd say you're being too rough. This is a classic split. I think neither one is "right" but balance is in order.

20 is fucking young and you know it. I made baaad decisions at 20. The good news is they were mine and I learned from it. 20 is also an adult and yeah, I'll hold him responsible if he hurts me and mine.

Balance. I will patronize and you will use humiliation. Sounds good! ;-p

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 18:53 | 1657704 Bob
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Props on this one, MsCreant.  I was with "the Dads" on this thing (and still am), but you serve your purpose with honor and grace. 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:05 | 1657757 MsCreant
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I really enjoy your posts so I think I will let myself bask, if just for a split second, in the "props." 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:04 | 1657737 Uncle Remus
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you'd be pissed I was babying the kid and I'd say you're being too rough. This is a classic split.

 

WTF, you been talking to my ex? ;->

 

You cannot ask folks to magically see it like we do and attack them when they don't

 

Well, technically, I didn't attack the commenter, I upbraided you. But I know what you mean.

Look, twenty is young only in a relative way. Twenty is not that far removed from being middle aged in terms of human history and that is due in part to fossil fuels. Part of preparing the next generation for a brave new world, the long emergency or 1984 redux means they can't all be "winners" or "special" and that the world is what you make it. And making a world takes an understanding of the rather harsh realities of psychopaths, inequity and shortages of resources, capital and talent.

 

 

 

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 01:12 | 1658603 MsCreant
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Letting you know I read this, it won't let me give you an arrow. I also think you are right. I think each of us have a point and a valid approach, for different occassions.

Good typing with you.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 18:29 | 1657596 Cathartes Aura
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I read that comment from a kid who wants the world to be a wholesome and good place. I want that, fuck man, it is what hurts so bad about what is going on. I want that wholesome place, I want the constitution to be real, and for the law to mean something. It is not his fault he has been raised inside a myth.

I realise you and I have had this conversation, in various forms, before - but I wanted to reply anyhow. . .

This "kid" is old enough to volunteer for this nation's military.  I'd rather he didn't.  So I like to poke 'n' prod perspectives, because he's currently holding one that is detrimental to his, and others, health and well being.

Sure, we'd all love to be living in the DisneyWorld's sparkly happy place we were raised in - but some of us now realise it never existed.  And meantime, the dark, mean, ugly side of our fairytale childhood was exported to other nations, who had to live in HELL to provide U.S. with our manufactured "wholesome place" of "good vs. evil" white hat cowboy hero.

And yes it hurts - it hurts everyone globally when we deny what is actually happening, versus a made-up story we're fed.  It may not be "his fault" he was raised in "a myth" but it's now his responsibility to seek out the truths.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 18:54 | 1657715 MsCreant
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He is here, isn't he? I already know others will tear him apart. I won't. It's that easy for me.

Look, I tear into folks here when they have been rude, or posted in bad faith. I hold back nothing doing it, I get angry. I did not get that from his post. He got up the courage and put out what he was thinking knowing his post would not be popular. 

When I have a student in class who voices opinions that are ugly and biggoted, I fight for his or her right to say it when the rest of the class comes down on them. If you watch carefully, they will be more open when the authority figure makes a space for them. Finding out they are wrong is less humiliating when someone can see why they thought what they thought. You have to leave folks a way out and a way to repair the damage (in their identity with themselves and others). It makes it work so much better than telling them they are a piece of shit because they are "wrong." Also, getting inside why they think what they think can be an education. I used to hate conservatives. I understand now that they come from a very reasonable place, they are trying to conserve!!! Who'da thunk it! I used to identify as a liberal. The nanny state is a problem and me thinking I know what is good for others is a problem. Staying open helped me to see that the dichotomy itself was false. 

I agree with the rest of your post. 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:43 | 1657877 Cathartes Aura
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Ahh, yes, "he is here" - as are we both, embodying similar points of view, with different tactics - fight club! *smile*

I agree with your intentions, and understand why you use them when teaching - it's better for someone to have an "aha!" moment with regards to the stance they've taken, than to be verbally berated while defending that stance, which is a way of reinforcing the belief in their own mind, through repetition.

But I like to play the role of provocateur here, and mine is often a minority stance - still, I like to think it's good to tip the scales toward deeper critical thinking when it comes to the "world" we co-exist in.  So many conflicting realities, so little time.

as always, peace.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 20:42 | 1658071 MsCreant
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Indeed, you take on battles I would like to, but feel they are already lost and have no taste for it. I still admire it. 

Perhaps it takes all of us together, different styles, learning together, to move forward. We may be having what looks like a disagreement that is really just a conversation. No division.

Peace, as well.

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 01:43 | 1658632 Cathartes Aura
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I like that you mention "taste" - my avatar is was chosen with purpose - vultures are uniquely designed to eat what would kill other creatures, that is their place in the natural cycle. . . they also have a keen sense of the thermals they need to lift them higher into the sky, where they are most at home, soaring free. . . I do love my mental space, lol.

yes, it definitely takes us all, together, to move forward, each honouring their own perspective, shared.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:00 | 1657059 Uncle Remus
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You should really wake up and smell the clusterfuck.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:09 | 1656918 Sledge
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again, good boy take your pills

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:20 | 1656945 Mauibrad
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Wow, excellent chart.  Everything makes sense from that one chart.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:23 | 1656960 SaveTheGreenback
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Anti-semitism and conspiracy theory on 9/11 is failed ideology.  History can show you that.  

Those are not principles of a libertarian in the mold of the founding fathers of the US like Jefferson, Franklin, and Madison.

Our current federal government is genuinely oppresive by the standards of the Founders...The Bernank counterfeits the currency...our spiraling deficits fund oligarchs in academia and labor unions.  

America has no business meddling in the affairs of any foreign nation for oil or gold. We have the energy and mining at home.  The EPA is terrorizing business in this country. We have a responsibility to protect our borders and make safety at home the priority. The EPA and global warming left must be defeated...

The terrorists won the last decade.  It's up to Americans to look at history and protect and restore the Constitution.  We need a Reagan... We need to rebuild the towers 10 times as big as they were...We need to make the terrorists feel like we can care less about them and leave their countries....we can starve them through economic energy prowess...

We don't need their damn oil...

 

 

 

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:39 | 1657013 Killuminati
Sun, 09/11/2011 - 15:41 | 1657018 Ghoaster
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So ..is the waterfall going into the ground to cool the Thermite fire underneath? heh

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:12 | 1657086 President Palin
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I just love a country where the former VP (Dick Head Cheney) publishes a book stating that he is proud of breaking many domestic/international laws, shits on the American public and then wipes his ass with the US Constitution.  The best part - no one seems to care because they are too busy waiting for their government funded handouts or watching Americal Idol.

This is going to end well for the American people.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:23 | 1657110 In Fed We Trust
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I remember a time not to long ago when Tyler would blog about expensive sports cars, Goldman Sachs, HFT, the real estate market downtown NY, Goldman Sachs, and all the scdandals involved in a good Ponzi Scheme. 

 

Now adays all his blogs have to do with the CDS market in Europe, as if referring a poker match of the worlds billionARIES, AND A occasional stab at the FED ,

 

Encouraging all the rest of you small time and buig time sheeple  to step into the ring for one more round..

iM not sure how its all gonna go down, but I have a hunch it has to do with gold. 

 

After all, these bubbles and terror attacks are engeneered.. by the the smartest and whitest. 

 

I suspect somjething like Goldman Sachs to come confiscate your gold at some put with the governments permission.  Goldman is just the collector. Thanks for posting who is holding PM's or not.

 

Or maybe they just event an electronic currency.  Gold goes to zero over a few days?  They still keep the dollar , the Chinese currency , and the Euro, and they are all fixed to each other and also electronic. 

That would kill gold and you would have one world currency it the locals wouldnt riot cus they wouldnt know the difference.

I spend my money on hookers and dope. 

 

 

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:29 | 1657130 Trouserboy69
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Corn, Rice, and Cotton prices are way off!  LOL

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 22:36 | 1658326 mark mchugh
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Thanks for noticing the data, TB.

I admit I fretted about this.  Turns out accurate ten year old commodity data is harder to find than you might think.

The prices you are questioning came from this source:

http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=corn&months=120

http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=rice&months=120

http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=cotton&months=120

 

Corn and rice are quoted in USD per metric ton.

Cotton is quoted in cents per pound.

Granted they are not units we're used to, but they had the continuous historic info I needed.  I chose not run the risk of converting units.  The percent change is what I was after.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:29 | 1657133 Trouserboy69
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Corn, Rice, and Cotton prices are way off!  LOL

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:29 | 1657134 Trouserboy69
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Corn, Rice, and Cotton prices are way off!  LOL

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:32 | 1657147 Bagbalm
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Tanks in the street - they never say whose...

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:39 | 1657179 Larry Dallas
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There is a documentary (probably among many) that I saw 2 times when I was in Hawaii. It was put on by the Hawaii PBS and it specifically describes the inside job 9/11 was; wonderfully put together thesis that is proven very convincingly and credibly. It was fascinating. I wish I knew the name of it.

If anyone has a clue as to what I'm talking about, please let me know. It would be great for everyone on ZH to see this.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:48 | 1657207 New Survivalist
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I'd like to see a MSM poll asking if you believe the 911 fable. They won't of course as it would bring immediate exposure to the reaity of what the public really believes when they are allowed to express their opinion anonymously.

(see Ron Paul for more information)

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 18:37 | 1657627 Cathartes Aura
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(see Ron Paul for more information)

you may be disappointed there.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 17:23 | 1657342 puckles
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Well, I'm a happily married boomer female, and it's my husband who constantly fails to see the light.  I am regularly treated to epithets such as "conspiracy theorist" and so on, yet when I point out that the Lincoln assassination is a documented conspiracy, as have been all assassinations in memory until--wait for it--the Kennedy assassination, I am greeted with dull silence, and then he usually leaves the room...

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 17:51 | 1657385 cranky-old-geezer
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9/11 is the best example of how gullible and stupid and sheepish most Americans have become.

The moment I saw WTC 1 come down in perfect symetry at free-fall speed right into its own footprint I thought "controlled demolition". It looked just like other buildings brought down in controlled demolition. Identical.

Jets hitting those buildings was a diversion to provide a cover story most Americans woud believe. And most Americans still believe it today.

WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7 were controlled demolition. Bringing down WTC 1 & 2, two of the tallest buildings in the world, in perfect controlled demolition, would require the best CD professionals in the world and would take months of planning and preperation.

There's no possible way our government wouldn't know about it. They had to know about it.

Since they knew about it and did nothing to stop it, it's obvious they were in on it.  Since they were in on it, they are responsible for all the tragedy and death.

9/11 split America into two camps.  The believe-what-government-says-regardless-of-what-evidence-says camp, and the believe-what-evidence-says-regardless-of-what-government-says camp.

I'm firmly in the later camp.  Unfortuanely most Americans are in the former camp.

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 07:48 | 1658930 chindit13
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Nope. You’re a sheeple. You‘re in so deep you can‘t see it. Perhaps instead of American Idol and CNBC you have infowars and Max Keiser, but you are still a sheeple. You ask what you call "sheeple" to question why they have the need to believe the way they do. Have you ever asked yourself the same question?  Ever wonder why all USG or MSM utterances are lies and obfuscations, but all the utterances of Alex Jones or Max Keiser are Gospel?

I’ve watched and participated in these 911 discussions over the years.  I can argue, discredit or diminish every supposed “proof”, so the other side just pulls up the next one.  Discredit that (or offer that such an occurrence could have more than a single cause or explanation), and the next one comes up.  Eventually they grasp at the most foolish of the “proofs”, such as the BBC report or the missile (or even worse and go with a GW-type RC model).  When that last one is discredited, they go back to square one, perhaps assuming I have forgotten that I already took care of that one.

The final argument is:  I must be a paid shill.

You are a sheeple.

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 10:40 | 1659512 DaveyJones
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I love how you cite yourself for authority. Guess that's par for the course for someone who is beyond physics and common sense 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 17:37 | 1657396 High Plains Drifter
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http://theintelhub.com/2011/08/30/hurricane-erin-the-category-3-hurricane-that-should-have-prevented-911-from-happening/

 

the strange case of hurricane erin, that made a bee line toward new york and arrived outside new york harbor on 911, then took a sudden turn to the northeast...........hmmm......hardly anyone knows that a major hurricane was approaching new york on 911. it has been lost in the minutia

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 17:42 | 1657409 High Plains Drifter
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http://letsrollforums.com/financial-fraud-9-11-t22468.html

interesting discussion about lisa beamer, wife of todd beamer, the lets roll guy.........hmmm

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:06 | 1657760 High Plains Drifter
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http://thepentacon.com/googlesmokinggun.htm

what happened at pentagon on 911.

http://vimeo.com/4067633

the story of lloyde england , the cab drive whose cab was on the bridge with the light pole on it......

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:08 | 1657767 SilverDoctors
Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:16 | 1657791 Uncle Remus
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The American Job.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:52 | 1657910 High Plains Drifter
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the pm vaults were in wtc 3 weren't they?  nobody ever talks about wtc 3.....

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 20:40 | 1658061 Tunga
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... Or the gigantic hole in WTC 6 with all that tritium at the bottom of it. Who put that nuclear waste on my Coke?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:42 | 1657873 kill switch
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Probability of Large-Scale False Flag Terror Event Increasing As European Banking Panic Looms WGT Washington DC, Sept. 9, 2011 – Late yesterday, Obama administration officials speaking off the record told reporters that they had a “credible but unconfirmed” threat warning for a terror attack around the time of the 9/11 anniversary is coming Sunday.

This announcement caps a week in which numerous veterans of the original 9/11 false flag terror attack and cover-up have been prodigal with their media warnings that a repetition of the bloody tragedy of 10 years ago is simply a question of time. These figures have included former New York Mayor Giuliani, 9/11 commission chairs Hamilton and Kean, and many others.

Based on the current intelligence constellation, a large-scale false flag terror attack over the coming weeks and months is now increasing in probability. This is because such a terror attack, plus the wars it could unleash and the martial law which it might be used to impose in Europe and North America, would facilitate measures which the ruling finance oligarchs of these nations judge to be essential for their short-term survival. The false flag attack could be blamed on Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, the Palestinians, or a range of others.

Once again, the initiative may be passing into the hands of that rogue network, invisible government, secret government, parallel government, deep state, or special forces underground which exists at the point where Wall Street and City of London financial bosses intersect with the dominant personalities – active-duty and retired – of the Anglo-American secret intelligence establishment.

Imminent Banking Panic Means New and Bigger Bailouts Imposed by Martial Law

The leading factor compelling the Anglo-American power elite into a new false flag terror adventure is  the now rapidly worsening breakdown crisis of the European and US banking systems. Almost 2 years of Anglo-American financial warfare against the euro, generally taking the form of credit default swap (CDS) assaults on European government bonds, have now created an extraordinarily serious crisis. There is presently a list of at least one dozen large European banks, each of whom is a candidate to play the role of Lehman Brothers in the blowup which can now be expected for some time over the next two months. This includes the top British banks. This crisis is almost exclusively the handiwork of the City of London and Wall Street, and they have created it in order to relieve pressure on the dollar, and to neutralize the threat to the future role of the dollar as the world reserve currency. Over the past few days, Anglo-American commentators have been chortling as the dollar has picked up a few pennies of value compared to the euro.

The problem for the Anglo-Americans is that panic runs on European banks will quickly be translated into panic runs on US banks, and on the dollar. Institutions like Bank of America, Citibank, Morgan Stanley, and even the vaunted Goldman Sachs, which have existed as zombie banks thanks to government largess since September 2008, are now exhibiting telltale signs of a Lehman-like death spiral. In short, if the European banks blow, the London and New York banks will not be far behind. Maybe the Wall Street geniuses of international financial warfare should have thought of that before they embarked on their current lunatic beggar-my-neighbor campaign against their confreres in continental Europe.

Experience teaches that if the New York money center banks are faced by imminent bankruptcy, their first instinct would be to demand a second bailout of trillions of dollars at US taxpayer expense. The problem for them is that the first bailout has left such a bitter aftertaste that congressional passage of such a monstrous funding bill would be anybody’s guess. From the Wall Street point of view, this makes martial law a much more attractive alternative than in the recent past. Under the impact of a huge false flag event, new bailouts could be railroaded through the Congress or even approved by Wall Street puppet Obama as executive orders and validated later. They could even be approved as a measure necessary for national defense in an emergency. The impact in Europe would be similar.

Martial law declared in response to a terror attack would automatically be used to suppress public protests against the bailouts and austerity cuts decreed by the zombie bankers and hedge fund hyenas. No matter what the ins and outs, a new terror crisis would help Wall Street get its money. And there is nothing like an imminent financial panic to make the Anglo-American ruling elite go collectively bonkers.

The Twelve Tyrants of Austerity Threaten the Pentagon Budget

A second and related problem is represented by the first meeting yesterday of that extralegal pseudo-judicial organism which the American people are increasingly referring to as the Twelve Tyrants. This is the infamous Super Committee or Super Congress, an entity which exists in clear violation of the United States Constitution. If, according to one likely scenario, the Twelve Tyrants, the Congress, and Obama fail to agree on a common program of genocidal austerity against the American people, and automatic budget guillotine will come down around Christmas of this year, and will begin cutting $60 billion per year out of the Pentagon budget. According to a number of observers, this prospect by itself is sufficient to move the intelligence old boys of the rogue network to stage a substantial new terror stunt to protect their current level of funding. If new terror attacks occur, it will be much harder to cut the Pentagon budget. Having been deprived of the Cold War 20 years ago, these bellicose militarists do not intend to be deprived of their ersatz Global War on Terror, and they are prepared to go far off the reservation to assert themselves.

The anxiety in these circles is increased by news reports that the US presence in Iraq is about to be scaled down to about 3,000 troops. At the same time, public pressure for an early exit from Afghanistan is growing, while others are calling for a strategy based on limited special forces and the use of predator drones, but without large numbers of infantry.

Republican Warmongers Pose as Isolationists

The disgust of the US population with the endless wars of the past decade has gradually transformed much of the Republican Party from a self-professed congeries of warmongers into a purported gaggle of isolationists, as seen in the recent debates. Naturally, for most of these figures the dovish transformation is purely demagogic. A robust false flag terror event would go far towards flipping the Republicans back to the warmongers stance they find inherently congenial.

London and Washington Still Want to Attack Pakistan

Another factor which disturbs the Anglo-American imperialist planners is their inability to launch their military incursion against Pakistan. This had been planned for the immediate aftermath of the May 1st “Bin Laden” publicity stunt, and would have included an attempt by US Special Forces to seize or destroy the Pakistani strategic nuclear deterrent, leaving that country defenseless. The Anglo-Americans have been held in this case by a timely ultimatum from China, specifying that Beijing would treat an attack on Pakistan just like an attack on the Chinese homeland. This has largely checkmated China and Washington ever since. However, in the aftermath of a new false flag event blamed on Pakistan, it would be possible for the Anglo-American to revisit this issue with increased blackmail potential against the Chinese.

The US-UK Assault on Syria is Failing

In the Middle East, the Anglo-American power elite has wagered everything on the successful march of color revolutions backed up with NATO military aggression, leading to the overthrow of most of the existing regimes in the Arab world. Syria poses the most serious test so far for this new Anglo-American strategic doctrine. After all, it was relatively easy for the Anglo Americans to destabilize and overthrow the governments of Tunisia and Egypt, given that these states were already located within the Anglo Americans sphere.

NATO’s Urgent Need to Attack Syria

Libya has proven a much tougher nut to crack, and NATO, and despite a brutal application of genocidal force, has not yet cracked it. Because of Qaddafi’s superior fighting qualities, the long war in Libya has tended to shield Syria from the next, planned wave of NATO attack. In the meantime, the Syrian army has made substantial progress in quelling the armed rebellion mounted by death squads and armed gangs loyal to the Moslem Brotherhood, itself the creation of British intelligence. The optimum time for NATO to invade Syria would have been two months ago, but this proved impossible because so many of NATO’s strictly limited military assets were tied down on the Libyan front. Very soon, there will be very little of the Muslim Brotherhood soldatesca left in Syria for NATO to come and rescue.

A false flag terror attack, however, would immediately change this equation by creating political conditions in which Obama could successfully extort increased military assets from Congress and from Europe to carry out a direct attack on Syria. This in turn would likely embroil NATO in all-out war not just with Syria, but with Hezbollah and Iran as well. If one thinks of a world war evolving along the lines of the Thirty Years’ War in Europe (1618-1648), then this would begin to look very much like such a world war.

Isolated Israel Faces the PLO Demand for Statehood and the Hostility of Turkey

A further exacerbating factor is represented at the ongoing internal political crisis and increasing international isolation of Israel. Right after the 9/11 anniversary, the United Nations General Assembly will convene in New York City. Here there will be a determined attempt by the Palestinian Authority to exert its existence as a sovereign and independent United Nations member state. This bid will enjoy overwhelming sympathy around the world. It is quite possible that the General Assembly will approve the Palestinian request. The United States faces the humiliating isolation of having to block Palestinian statehood with a solo veto in the Security Council. Saudi Arabia is on record as saying that this outcome will lead to a catastrophe in US-Saudi relations.

Will Turkey Decline Role of US-UK Kamikaze Puppet Against Syria?

A further complication involves Turkey. According to the Anglo-American dream scenario, Turkey should by now have attacked Syria, citing the pretext of wanting to stop the refugee flow across the two countries’ common border. For a time it looked like the Turks would indeed accept the role of kamikaze puppet against Syria in the service of London and New York. But, for the moment, it looks like they may have paused. Instead of invading Syria, Turkey is currently engaged in a high profile diplomatic clash with the Israelis, which makes much more sense from the point of view of Turkish interests and internal politics, and which increases the pressure on the desperados of the Netanyahu regime. All this comes at the moment when half a million Israelis have demonstrated in the streets to show their rejection of the militarism and economic austerity measures of Netanyahu.

A Turkish-Egyptian Alliance?

There are even reports of a possible alliance between Egypt and Turkey, which would be most unwelcome to the US, British, and Israelis. The Egyptians, for their part, have become somewhat less subservient neighbors for the Israelis in the Sinai, especially after some Egyptian forces were killed by Israeli bombing raids targeting Gaza.

Iran: Bushehr Goes Online

In the background, the Iranian nuclear program is quietly proceeding. The Bushehr nuclear power station has come online, producing electricity for Iran’s national grid. The Washington Post, citing a September report from the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, claims that the Iranian nuclear program represents “an undimmed danger.” In a September 6 editorial, the paper claims that Iran has begun to use a new and more advanced centrifuge for the enrichment of uranium, and that rapid progress is being made in transferring existing centrifuges into a large underground facility located in a mountain near Qom, which makes them all but invulnerable to outside military attack. The protracted campaign of assassination against Iranian nuclear scientists, it would appear, has not been effective in stopping this progress. In the fevered imaginations of imperialist military planners, we may therefore be approaching the point of no return for an attack on Iran.

Neocon Bonapartist Petraeus Now Running the CIA

As of this past Tuesday, the General David Petraeus has now taken control of the US Central Intelligence Agency. Petraeus has long been noted as the favorite Bonapartist of the neocon faction, and their chosen vehicle for a return to power en masse. Petraeus is carrying out a personal union of the Pentagon and the CIA, the two pillars of his projected future authoritarian presidency. If the US ruling elite should decide to jettison Obama, look for Petraeus’ star to rise at the expense of the “bunch of cranks” populating the current Republican field which is “the weakest since 1940,” in the words of John Weaver of the Huntsman camp.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:54 | 1657915 High Plains Drifter
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perhaps europe is more ripe for it than here. with all of the internet activity here, i am not sure if they can pull it off here with as much sucess as 911....who knows though.

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 02:06 | 1658647 The Heart
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Awesome breakdown and you have obviously done your homework to be able to shine the light so well in this strategic intelligence report. This should go viral and if enough people see this the way you have so excellently and simply put it all here, then perhaps WHEN they pull off another 9/11 type false flag event, all will know who is responsible for the horror to come.

Sadly, the dominoes are really stacked against the once free nation of america. It's time to batten the hatches and prepare the best we can for the coming storms. The whole economic picture has turned into a often too funny cartoon. Crash all those banks and banksters that support the military industrial complex.

It was Lindsey Williams that said, "when you see the euro go, you will have two weeks to get out of all paper instruments."
Bring it on!

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 20:37 | 1658050 Tunga
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Larry Silverstein rebuilt WTC 7 in half the time it took to make the original. See! We are making progress!

 

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 23:58 | 1658485 nah
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SMART BITCHEZ!

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