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The US Recorded Its Warmest March In History And All We Got Was This Timelapse Video

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NOAA just released confirmation that the first quarter of 2012 was the warmest on record. The fact that we rely on 'seasonal adjustments' in macro data that are so critical in our seeming belief in the recovery of the US economy (and its extrapolation into how many iPads will be bought next month) when the temperature is 20% hotter than average is simply incredible.



U.S. records warmest March; more than 15,000 warm temperature records broken

First quarter of 2012 also warmest on record; early March tornado outbreak is year's first "billion dollar disaster"

Record and near-record breaking temperatures dominated the eastern two-thirds of the nation and contributed to the warmest March on record for the contiguous United States, a record that dates back to 1895. More than 15,000 warm temperature records were broken during the month.

The average temperature of 51.1°F was 8.6 degrees above the 20th century average for March and 0.5°F warmer than the previous warmest March in 1910. Of the more than 1,400 months (117+ years) that have passed since the U.S. climate record began, only one month, January 2006, has seen a larger departure from its average temperature than March 2012.

Note: The March 2012 Monthly Climate Report for the United States has several pages of supplemental information and data regarding the unprecedented early 2012 temperatures.

U.S. climate highlights — March

  • Every state in the nation experienced at least one record warm daily temperature during March. According to preliminary data, there were 15,272 warm temperature records broken (7,755 daytime records, 7,517 nighttime records). Hundreds of locations across the country broke their all-time March records. There were 21 instances of the nighttime temperatures being as warm, or warmer, than the existing record daytime temperature for a given date.
  • A persistent weather pattern led to 25 states east of the Rockies having their warmest March on record. An additional 15 states had monthly temperatures ranking among their ten warmest. That same pattern brought cooler-than-average conditions to the West Coast states of Washington, Oregon, and California.
  • Temperatures in Alaska during March, which are not included in the contiguous U.S. average value, ranked as the tenth coolest on record.
  • The nationally-averaged precipitation total was 2.73 inches, which is 0.33 inches above average. The Pacific Northwest and the Southern Plains were much wetter than average during March while drier-than-average conditions prevailed in the interior West, Northeast, and Florida. Colorado had its driest March on record.
  • According to the U.S. Drought Monitor, as of April 3rd, 36.8 percent of the contiguous U.S. was in drought, a decrease from 38.7 percent at the end of February and an increase from 28.8 percent a year ago on April 5, 2011. Above-average precipitation across the Southern Plains improved long-term drought conditions Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas.
  • Warmer-than-average conditions across the eastern U.S. also created an environment favorable for severe thunderstorms and tornadoes. According to NOAA's Storm Prediction Center, there were 223 preliminary tornado reports during March, a month that averages 80 tornadoes annually. The majority of the tornadoes occurred during the March 2nd-3rd outbreak across the Ohio Valley and Southeast, which caused 40 fatalities. Total losses from this event are estimated to exceed $1.5 billion dollars, making this the first event of 2012 to exceed one billion dollars in damages and losses.
  • On March 9, a large weather system impacted the Hawaiian Islands, bringing extreme rainfall and severe thunderstorms. A rare EF-0 tornado hit the towns of Lanikai and Kailua on Oahu, causing minor damage. A hailstone with the largest diameter on record for the state, measuring 4¼ inches, fell on Oahu during this event.

Year-to-date (January-March)

  • The first three months of 2012 were also record warm for the contiguous United States with an average temperature of 42.0°F, 6.0°F above the long-term average.
  • Twenty-five states, all east of the Rockies, had their warmest first quarter on record, and an additional 16 states had first-quarter temperatures ranking among their ten warmest.
  • Numerous cities had a record warm January-March, including Chicago, Boston, and Washington, D.C. No state in the contiguous U.S. had below-average January-March temperatures.
  • Alaska had its ninth coolest January-March period; temperatures were 5.2°F below average.
  • The nationally-averaged precipitation total for January-March was 0.29 inches below the long-term average. States across the Pacific Northwest and Southern Plains were wetter than average, while the Intermountain West, parts of the Ohio Valley, and the entire Eastern Seaboard were drier than average.
  • NOAA's U.S. Climate Extremes Index, an index that tracks the highest 10 percent and lowest 10 percent of extremes in temperature, precipitation, drought and tropical cyclones, was 39 percent, nearly twice the long-term average and the highest value on record for the January-March period. The predominant factor was the large area experiencing extremes in warm daily maximum and minimum temperatures.

Cold season (October-March) and 12-month period (April 2011-May 2012)

  • The cold season, which is defined as October 2011 through March 2012 and an important period for national heating needs, was second warmest on record for the contiguous U.S. with a nationally-averaged temperature 3.8°F above average. Only the cold season of 1999-2000 was warmer. Twenty-one states across the Midwest and Northeast, areas of the country with high annual heating demands, were record warm for the six-month period.
  • The previous 12-month period (April-March), which includes the second hottest summer (June-August) and fourth warmest winter (December-February), was the warmest such period for the contiguous United States. The 12-month running average temperature was 55.4°F, which is 2.6°F above the 20th century average.

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Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:52 | 2328395 GoinFawr
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Right, and dilution is the solution. Now go and have another carp salad sandwich and wash it down with a brackish swallow of  'Erie Shores'  bottled water.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 20:48 | 2329886 memyselfiu
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What about fucking acid rain? There are lakes around here that are still recovering from acid rain as a result of the so2 prior to installing scrubbers.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:21 | 2328283 Thamesford
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It's all the hot air from the Gore-Olberman email tryst.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:02 | 2328207 Clueless Economist
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Al Gore passed a giant gas bubble out his butt...this accounted for 1.2 degrees of the temerature increase.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:15 | 2328256 Dr. Engali
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By out his butt you mean that hole in his face right?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:07 | 2328223 ironymonger
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Al Gore?  Why wait for that fabulist when we have our own ridiculous, hyperventilating disaster fanatic Geo. Whashingtun?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:33 | 2328333 jeff montanye
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yes, fukishima can't be anything out of the ordinary worth noting.  japan turning off all its nuclear power plants happens all the time.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:20 | 2328764 ironymonger
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You're right. All those radioactive zombies streaming out of japan should have been my first clue.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:07 | 2328226 Dr. Engali
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He's in his new 9 million dollar mansion reducing his carbon footprint.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 17:08 | 2328230 Normalcy Bias
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Algore may have been sucked into the giant vortex of self-importance that was created when he hooked up with Laurie David...

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:20 | 2328277 ebworthen
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Solar flares to reach peak in 2013 after several years of increasing intensity.

Al Gore and all the other "scientists" will ignore this science for sure.

It is more self-aggrandizing to believe you cause global warming versus something completely out of your control.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:45 | 2328386 Flakmeister
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And what is your point? Can you show published research that backs your claim?

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 10:02 | 2330953 Ghostmaker
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Very hard to show published research when the warmist crowd control that media.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:49 | 2328411 connda
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A 10% global Carbon Tax to be distributed to among the elite will surely fix this problem.  Thieth the Eco Masters of the Universe before all is Doomed!!!

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:27 | 2328559 Colombian Gringo
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Paging a delighted Al Gore, your friend and mouth receptable Davey Jones will show up soon.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 16:17 | 2329214 Papasmurf
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Ask him to shut down half his mansion.

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 19:36 | 2333143 jimmytorpedo
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He finally got the keys to the HAARP installation in Alaska.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:54 | 2328159 Straying from t...
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Living in WA, we noticed that, as everyone was talking about the heat wave, we were freezing our butts off.  I can see why now. 

The weather is not the only thing that is changing.  Our world has changed before our very eyes.  We have been plugged into our iPods and iPads for too long. 

You are not your facebook page.



Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:02 | 2328195 Spastica Rex
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I laughed at the continual snow fall that the Seattle area got.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 16:01 | 2329155 Cathartes Aura
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all that precipitation has made the PNW the "hot spot" for radiation fallout,

Head Researcher: Boulder, Colorado a “hot spot” for Fukushima fallout — None of their other US or Canadian samples came close to Boulder’s contamination, except Portland which was even higher

not really seeing any "news" response to this, how surprising. . .

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:53 | 2328162 SheepDog-One
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Should be a bumper crop harvest year then! I'm certain they've spread enough bullshit around...great growing season coming.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:58 | 2328182 Janice
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Bumper crop for fleas, ticks and other assorted insects that attack people, pets & veggies.  But I do have immature summer squash on the plant already.  Peas, potatoes, squash, tomatoes, corn & peanuts out of the ground and growing.  Everytime Obama speaks, I plant more beans.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:07 | 2328222's picture

An article in our local PA paper said that the warmer winter weather was actually disruptive to the life cylce of ticks.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:03 | 2328463 Piranhanoia
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Go north young man!     Does PA still ignore the coal fires?   I was wondering if they came up with a new name for them to begin a campaign to sew doubt that they ever existed.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:04 | 2328686's picture

Did you mean "sow doubt?"

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 16:09 | 2329183 Lednbrass
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LOL, sowing anything is not for sophisticated urbanites, it would actually be a real world solution to what they claim concerns them.  Its for them to complain but someone else to actually do.  Well, that and fork over money.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 20:52 | 2329893 memyselfiu
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when you have a row to hoe, any hoe will do in a pinch....

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 16:11 | 2329158 Lednbrass
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Yep, its a great year for me so far.  Tomatoes in the ground early, hundreds of sugar snaps are flowering, 150 ish melons ready for transplant in the next week or so, taters going nuts, cukes sprouting, its a great jump on the growing season. A little rough on some cool weather crops I had hoped to sneak in during late winter/early spring and I lost some carrots, spinach, and mustard greens but overall the early warm weather is a huge plus for me. After I harvest the peas in late April to early May the beans go in.

Should be an excellent year for growing. Which is just as well, if they are right somebody has to do somethign to soak up all the excess CO2 produced by urban greenies who scream their heads off while running the AC and playing with electronic gadgets but never can be bothered to actually DO a damn thing about what they claim concerns them so deeply.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:02 | 2328204 Gazooks
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Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:38 | 2328354 francis_sawyer
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Jeez... another thread on global warming...

Just as I had finally gotten the image of that ugly Jerry Lewis looking bucktooth bitch out of my mind...

Tyler ~ are you trying to kill me?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:23 | 2328548 Piranhanoia
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You will do that for yourself if you teach your children ignorance.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 18:56 | 2329631 Colombian Gringo
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Hey Francis_ sawyer,

What was seen can still be unseen, you just need more alcohol <g>   I noticed they pulled Karis photos from the UofO.  I guess they worried that the local kids seeing her might get nightmares. 


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:54 | 2328166 vmromk
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Fuck the weather, Bernanke says buy AAPL !

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:56 | 2328178 randocalrissian
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It's a constant 54 farenheit in my underground bunker... sweet constancy.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:39 | 2328361 francis_sawyer
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Turn the thermostat up a degree and you can age some nice Parmesean cheese...

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:12 | 2328492 slewie the pi-rat
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i was wondering where she'd run off to, now

tell her i miss her, but that i understand and will try to get over it...


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:59 | 2328189 SheepDog-One
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So basically, the bankrupt american is about to get smashed this summer with utility costs, as if $5 gas wasnt a big enough burden already. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:00 | 2328192 YesWeKahn
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Global warming.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:02 | 2328200 SheepDog-One
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But its not 'global', as some places are having record cold as well. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:06 | 2328220 Dr. Engali
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I'm glad we had "global warming" after last years record setting cold winter. That sucked.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:25 | 2328302 Death and Gravity
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Weather will never be the same as climate, nomatter how many millions of times AGW denialists choose to conflate the two.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:34 | 2328338 Dr. Engali
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Yes in earths 4.5 billion years the climate has never changed. We have never had ice ages or warm periods before the year 1900.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:49 | 2328408 Death and Gravity
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Rubbish; Obviouslyt I, not any climate scientists have ever claimed or implied such.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:10 | 2328238 lenitivelea
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Shifting of magnetic north, actually. It's been accelerating recently, and its positioning correlates remarkably well with the fact that warming is greater to the east coast and lesser/nonexistent to the west. Also, there is a near bookmatch with the fact that on the other side of the globe, europe has had its coldest winter in over a decade. 

The U.S. is closer to the magnetic equator now. That is all. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:17 | 2328264 Flakmeister
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Can I have some of what you are smoking???

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:29 | 2328322 nmewn
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No shit...a prelude to the Mayan "event" no doubt.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:42 | 2328374 lenitivelea
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There won't be any Mayan event. I'm not a doomer. It's a perfectly cyclical thing, the poles are always moving to some extent. It's likely that the north pole was nearer to or in canada during the Medieval warm period, though that's speculation. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:25 | 2328555 Chumly
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the -1 was from the guy smoking the oregano....poor soul


here's a little fodder for your cannon:


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:38 | 2328359 lenitivelea
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Thanks for attacking me instead of trying to disprove my argument. 

North pole:

Even your dear gub'mint acknowledged it by moving up the hardiness zones.

But hey, cry wolf all you want. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:41 | 2328373 Flakmeister
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Hey, only ideologues and shills claim it isn't warming, but it sure has hell has little to do with Magnetic North....

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:44 | 2328383 lenitivelea
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Again with the name callling and no facts. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:47 | 2328400 Flakmeister
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Could you perhaps provide some theory or evidence that it is magnetic north? What is the mechanism? Why now? Can it explain 0.16 degress per decade?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:07 | 2328476 lenitivelea
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The pole is moving at about 25m/40km a year, and possibly accelerating.

First, there is the fact that the Earth's magnetic field shields the Earth from the sun's radiation. The field is weakest at the equator, hence more radiation and warmer temperatures. If the pole shifts, it brings relative exposure to/protection from solar radiation with it. 

Secondly, there are a number of jet streams/weather patterns guided by the magnetic field, such as those causing hurricanes.

This is helpful:

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:18 | 2328516 Flakmeister
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So what component of the suns radiation does the magnetic field affect? 

How does  the Mag. field affect the photonic component, e.g. visible, IR, UV???

Look, why don't you educate yourself before making crackpot claims...Sorry but someone has to tell you....

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:32 | 2328571 lenitivelea
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Everything's a crackpot claim before it's true.

Visible light, UV, and gamma are electro-magnetic, thus sensitive to electric fields and deflected by them. 

Again with the name calling, when I've said nothing poor of you. Work on your manners along with your critical thinking skills. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:49 | 2328640 Flakmeister
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You do realize that you are talking to someone that had to derive Rayleigh scattering from first principles in an Oral Exam....

So how much scattering do you expect?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:13 | 2328731 lenitivelea
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I am not physically capable of giving less of a damn about whatever credentials you ascribe to yourself.

Again, not necessarily any more or less as a % of total than at any other point, just in different places. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:17 | 2328750 Flakmeister
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So in other words, you have no clue about what you are talking about....Thought so...

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 15:12 | 2328989 Colombian Gringo
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Quoting Flakmeister

"You do realize that you are talking to someone that had to derive Rayleigh scattering from first principles in an Oral Exam...."


Yeah, Flak is good  at Oral, ask Al Gore...

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 15:41 | 2329093 Flakmeister
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You must be sexually repressed, did you ever work for the SEC?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:48 | 2328899 AnAnonymous
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Visible light, UV, and gamma are electro-magnetic, thus sensitive to electric fields and deflected by them.


only by low frequency electrical fields then.

Signed: a US citizen adept in US citizen critical thinking skills.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:23 | 2328547 GMadScientist
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While a loss of protection from the Van Allen belt would certainly cause more incident radiation, there's no physical evidence to support that actually occuring.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:32 | 2328579 lenitivelea
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I'm not saying that protection is weakening, just moving. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 16:14 | 2329201 Cathartes Aura
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many posts online that speak to large earthquakes and their "effects" on earth poles,

ScienceDaily (Jan. 12, 2005) — NASA scientists using data from the Indonesian earthquake calculated it affected Earth's rotation, decreased the length of day, slightly changed the planet's shape, and shifted the North Pole by centimeters. The earthquake that created the huge tsunami also changed the Earth's rotation.

if you look on the right side column under "related stories" there are posts discussing the chilean & fukushima earthquakes "shortening earth days" and changing earth's shape, etc.

"NASA" ?  *shrug* - but it IS considered "acceptable science" so here you go. . .

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:06 | 2328477 Piranhanoia
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What else can someone do but attack reality if they don't like it?   The worst part is they find several other million like them that believe their tv because it puts things in simple terms.  The herd thinks through the leader they imagine to be superior to them.   

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:42 | 2328375 francis_sawyer
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 "The U.S. is closer to the magnetic equator now. That is all."


So that explains why we are now a 'banana republic'...

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:13 | 2328496 insanelysane
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Google geomagnetic reversal.  This is a theory that the Earth's magnetic poles switch ends every so often which kind of scrambles things a bit.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:13 | 2328497 insanelysane
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Google geomagnetic reversal.  This is a theory that the Earth's magnetic poles switch ends every so often which kind of scrambles things a bit.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 20:57 | 2329905 memyselfiu
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actually magnetic north is moving toward Russia, but don't let facts get in the way of your otherwise brilliant commentary ;-]

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:29 | 2328564 Colombian Gringo
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No YesWe Kahn, it is called Global Warming Lying.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:01 | 2328197 Gazooks
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mucho calenté, bitchez

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:01 | 2328198 giorgioorwell
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10,9,8,7...and cue the hordes of AGW deniers that troll around these comment boards. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:04 | 2328212 SheepDog-One
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'AGW' means what? Sorry its not global anything...dont you remember the record cold in many places? That was all the economic news a while ago, the numbers were bad because the cold weather was so rough and was hindering economies, remember that? 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:16 | 2328260 Bay of Pigs
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No, he doesn't remember that becuase he's too stupid to consider other facts that contradict his point of view.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:18 | 2328270 Flakmeister
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SD1... you really shouldn't dabble in areas which you know very little about....

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:31 | 2328568 Colombian Gringo
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Hey, I heard you like to suck off Al Gore. Gonna empress us rubes with your scintillating intellect? Fuck yo' mama.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:28 | 2328321 Death and Gravity
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I would ask the sheepdog to readup on the published reports on the subject, which has never EVER claimed that the warming will be uniform and everpresent. What it however states is that the increased energy content in the atmosphere will make weather phenomena more varied, chaotic and unpredictable; this necessarily includes more outliers, extreme weather phenomena, which includes record cold winters.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:33 | 2328332 nmewn
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"I would ask the sheepdog to readup on the published reports on the subject, which has never EVER claimed that the warming will be uniform and everpresent."

What's the G stand for in AGW?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:52 | 2328417 Death and Gravity
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Global, understood as a global accumulation of energy.

And as students of physics, thermodynamics and fluid mechanics knows well, it is exceedingly rare that energy is evenly and flatly distributed across a continuum.


Do try to understand the science and abstain from 'arguments from dictionary', which tend to fall very flat on their faces in scientific discussions.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:24 | 2328551 nmewn
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You mean like Shakun's latest peer reviewed paper & discussion?

In truth you people bore me to tears.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:56 | 2328658 Dr. Engali
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Don't hit them with facts nmewn. You might hurt their ego.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:10 | 2328727 Death and Gravity
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I'm not atall surprised that you get butthurt over being contradicted, Engali. For you and so many other denialists, it is so much about ego, and so little about facts.

As for being hit with anything, all I see is a link. I see not an iota of demonstrable understanding of the topic at hand.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:47 | 2328802 Dr. Engali
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No butt hurt here Gravity. Global warming er... I mean climate change ooops I meant to say anthropological global warming is not a religion to me. I don't argue religion with zelouts they only get mad. I believe in letting everybody pursue their own faith...until they try to extract something from me to support said faith.

My comment about hitting them with facts  means  that maybe some of us realists might actually read about the topic too.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 15:24 | 2329033 Bay of Pigs
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+1 Doc...

Fucktardmeister's BS is getting very stale on ZH these days.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:55 | 2328660 Death and Gravity
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What is your argument?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:19 | 2328759 GMadScientist
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Funny your link relies on ice core data that clearly demonstrate that we've never had the rapid rise in atmospheric C02 seen since the mid 19th century.

Absolute levels? Sure. It's a system that varies. But our current pace of CO2 driving? Unheard of in planetary history.

But what the fuck would you know about the distribution of carbon isotopes or science at all, right? You've got a blog to link!

In truth, your ignorance earns a pittance of pity as it's so hard-fought and kept.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 19:57 | 2329774 nmewn
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You didn't read it did you?

Because you do, at times, add value to this forum (even if just generic)...I'll try to condense it for you as thats what you seem to prefer...being spoon fed.

Jeremy Shakun, et al, tried to make the case that CO2 precedes warming and failed under outside their bubble peer review. He did the bulk of it as a doctoral student at OSU and it was so highly thought of Professor Clark (and the rest) signed onto it.

The title of this masterful work gobbled up by Nature Magazine, in case you missed it, was:

“Global warming preceded by increasing carbon dioxide concentrations during the last deglaciation”

Slicing and dicing data to come to a preconcieved conclusion is, by now, a well known trick of the "climatologist craft". Much the same with futuristic "climate modeling"...the model is only as good as the data entered into it and presupposes outcomes. Which is why as a rule models break down over time as they cannot account for any unknowns.

Which leads to the often used term "this changes everything we thought we knew" line among scientists and professors of all stripes.

Until proven, scientists, economists (pick your profession) have theories...nothing more, nothing less and they're usually wrong at the cutting edge.

But you're free to believe the earth is flat or we can breed a superior race of humans or every psychosis imaginable leads back to mummy, just as so many learned professionals thought all those years ago ;-)

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 21:34 | 2330038 memyselfiu
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Did you actually read it? I'm surprised that you take this stance, seeing as you're a normally logical guy.

What's really alarming is the rate of change in temperature over 8000 years being equivalent to the one we've seen in the last 30.

I understand that the paper makes some stretches, which I'll grant you, and it's certainly not a 'game changer' but it does add to the overwhelming evidence of forcing via co2 levels historically.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:54 | 2328429 Likstane
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GOLD, as in actual gold weight, bitchez!

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:33 | 2328577 Colombian Gringo
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Hey, Death and Stupidity

The great prophet Gore, said so, cuz it must b e true.  Send us money and we will make the bad weather stop, NOT!

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:34 | 2328341 giorgioorwell
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"Anthropogenic Global Warming"....come on trollers do a little bit of googling and research before posting the same tired responses to this issue.  I'm not talking about the market's mispricing of labor numbers due to warm weather, tornadoes, cold weather, flooding, fires....of course the market is rigged against the pricing of reality, has been since Greenspan started flooding the markets with cheap money and accelerated under Bernanke.  

The Global Warming science has never said that every part of this planet is going to warm up a few degrees so that we all enjoy balmy temps and slightly higher sea levels.  I'm fairly sure the deniers dont' actually know what the sceince is saying.  

One of the things it does say is that ocean temps are warming rapidly, and that will presents itself as more extreme, unexpected weather patterns that don't match anything in recent record: record snowfall in some places, tornadoes in places that have never had tornadoes in others, and yes, some will be warmer. Two years from now, Fox News and CNBC will be talking about how we can benefit from Global Warming, they've already stopped denying it so adamantly, now their concentrating on saying, "well, yes, it's happening, but it wasn't caused by man".   Really, it's too late to do anything about it anyway, but its comical and sad to see the same people that scream at Bernanke and Obama for denying reality, do the exact same thing with this issue.  I would think traders would have less of a blind spot on this than the average person, but these boards prove that wrong every day. 

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:35 | 2328584 Colombian Gringo
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More BS from the church of CAGW.  Go back to fucking your mother, or better yet,  Kari Norgaard <g>

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:30 | 2328814 GMadScientist
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Forgive them. MBAs and traders don't have the math skills to appreciate non-linear dynamic systems or anything else that can't be rigged and has actual consequences for that matter.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:51 | 2328906 krispkritter
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AGW=Al Gore Wannabees...Paging Flak...

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:11 | 2328236 Dr. Engali
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Maybe we should be "treated".

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:13 | 2328243 SheepDog-One
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Re-education coming for the 'global warming deniers'. Its an clinical mental illness now you know.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:12 | 2328489 GoinFawr
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Thread circle jerked:check

Fluffers standing by:check

Echo chamber operational :check


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:15 | 2328739 slewie the pi-rat
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the fluffers are testy, today!

sadSacII has re-designed the site for losers, trolls, and fluffers

where's mine?  Hahaha!

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:35 | 2328344 nmewn
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You had to put her face in my head didn't you? ;-)

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:50 | 2328414 Dr. Engali
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Sorry about that. If it makes a difference I scared myself in the process.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:52 | 2328425 nmewn
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lol...misery loves company!

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:35 | 2328837 krispkritter
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Who? June Beaver, er, Cleaver...rofl...

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:36 | 2328588 Colombian Gringo
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Maybe, the CAGW freaks should be treated for wanting to enslave us for a few more fake FRNotes.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:14 | 2328250's picture

The construction, transportation and operation of your computer have all added to your carbon footprint. Is it really a smart move on your part to contribute to what you consider to be the poisoning of the planet simply in order to post snarky comments on an Internet forum?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 21:38 | 2330056 memyselfiu
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You`re also too smart to be using non-sequiturs.

Wed, 04/11/2012 - 19:27 | 2336308 GoinFawr
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then again, maybe not.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:18 | 2328267 Abiotic Oil
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Is that you Norgard?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:36 | 2328592 Colombian Gringo
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Naw, I am too busy fucking the Flakmeister. At least his hand and mouth will get a break from Al Gore.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:23 | 2328294 ebworthen
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AGW = Ape Global Warming?

It is completely out of our control, solar flares, planetary cycles that have nothing to do with us apes scrabbling about on the planet.

Stewardship and conservation certainly; hysterical theories of non-existent omniscience no.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:41 | 2328370 jeff montanye
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ape?  close but still a little low, phylogenetically speaking.  i'm going with anthropogenic (caused by humans).

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:23 | 2328783 GMadScientist
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Anthropoid. Anyone who has been to a Wal-Mart has witnessed the divergence of the species at hand.

They congregate in drive-throughs much like ungulates at a waterhole.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 21:40 | 2330062 memyselfiu
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Yes and my dog tries to hide under the table when there`s a thunder storm as well.


An analogy if you will.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:02 | 2328201 l1b3rty
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Looks like this bodes well for human civilization so long we can avert the ice age! The climate is complex. remember copenhagen?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:02 | 2328205 distopiandreamboy
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Droughts were devastating last year...this year is looking worse

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 16:34 | 2329259 Cathartes Aura
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the ongoing drought in Texas has destroyed half a billion trees already,

The statistical yardstick is staggering, with Texas agriculture officials estimating now that the drought caused record-breaking crop and livestock losses of $7.62 billion and counting. The Texas Forest Service estimates 100 million to 500 million forest trees may have succumbed.

Texas cities stand to lose another $280 million a year in economic and environmental benefits.

"When you lose that many trees, you're losing all the benefits, which include how those trees clean our air, water and soil to begin with," said Steve Houser, a master gardener with the Texas Agriculture Extension Service.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 17:59 | 2329474 Bay of Pigs
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All time record rainfall for Seattle in March. Trees are doing just fine, thank you.

Snow last week in BC. Big snowpack in the mountains. No drought or lack of clean water around here.

But you knew that already, right?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 19:25 | 2329696 Cathartes Aura
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oh FFS BoP - can you READ? the article I linked was about TEXAS trees, not SEATTLE SNOWFALL.

but if you want to know about the Pacific NorthWest's trees, here, this is from 3 years ago,

Trees in the Northwest's oldest, richest forests are dying at an increasing rate, and scientists point to regional warming as the probable cause, according to a new study published today.

it's a great big world out there. . .

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 22:01 | 2330128 Bay of Pigs
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It sure is a big world. Exactly my point. Why focus on Texas then?

Old trees die. It isn't from "global warming" I can assure you. Plenty of forest here that is perfectly healthy and doing just fine. My family has been logging for over 100 years in the NW. You want to believe that kind of MSM bullshit go right ahead. Just don't expect the rest of rest to go along with your hysteria and propaganda.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 23:17 | 2330306 Cathartes Aura
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lol, I was replying to a post citing drought with a link discussing drought in Texas, and subsequent effects. . .

I could list many posts regarding the loss of trees around the country, with differing "causes" cited - but I suspect that's not of interest to you, as everything is just following a "natural cycle."

and the "hysteria" dig was a lovely added touch, made me laugh, thanks!

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 07:38 | 2330665 memyselfiu
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well, there is that pesky pine beetle thing....

Jim Snetsinger, British Columbia’s Chief Forester, told a convention of the Western Silviculture Contractors’ Association this week that the historic mountain pine beetle infestation in interior B.C. wasn’t as destructive as first feared.

“In 2006, we were projecting a mountain pine beetle kill of 80 per cent of pine by 2013,” Jim Snetsinger said. “Our 2011 models . . . now tell us mountain pine beetle will kill about 61 per cent of susceptible pine by 2021.”

Unfortunately the news isn’t all good. Snetsinger said the mountain pine beetle continues to kill large numbers of lodgepole pine. More than half of merchantable pine in the Interior has been lost to date, even though the mortality peaked in 2004-05.

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 08:42 | 2330681 i-dog
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LOL ... they first "predicted" an 80% kill of all pine trees within 7 years then, 5 years later, they had to revise that down to killing just 61% (more accuracy?!) of susceptible pines (reduced subset?!) within 10 years (longer timeline?!).

Just like the religion of Global Warming is now prophesying a 1-inch rise in mean sea level in 100 years (replacing the priests' earlier prophesy of submerged Pacific islands in 10 years)!! Tuvalu and the Maldives (Indian Ocean) were supposed to have been washed away by now! LOL.

Scare-mongering gone wild....

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 12:55 | 2331536 GoinFawr
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Er, the vast amount of human effort expended to curtail the spread of those beetles had a lot to do with the positive effect that you are disingenuously portraying as a negative one (not for the affected pine trees, but for those who raised the alarm and made the efforts to save them)

So in a nutshell(case) here is your argument:

1. 'Scare mongerers' perceive that forests are being devestated by a beetle that is thriving in a climate that is unusually warm for its geographic location year after year after year.

2.Through concerted effort they act to slow the advance of the insects, with some success.

3.The conclusion that you somehow derive from this is that there never was a problem in the first place and the people who drew attention to this and garnered resources to combat the beetles are religious nuts.

So, what you call 'scare-mongering', but reasonable people would call 'recognizing an imminent threat and acting to curb it', works, thanks for inadvertently reinforcing that.

Also, it is quite apparent that you have absolutely no idea of the magnitude of 'half of the merchantable' pine in BC, or just how great of a loss that really is. No scariness needed to be mongered in the case of such a disaster to the forestry industry and the tree huggers, IE everyone. And that's just British Columbia, pine beetles don't pay attention to borders, after all.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:02 | 2328206 LawsofPhysics
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Anyone know how much that time-lapse video cost?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:03 | 2328208 FreedomGuy
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Not just Al Gore but all aspiring oligarchs are delighted. This means government must take over. The end point of this thinking is that there are too many people on earth and that man is actually a parasite on the earth. So, we have to hate ourselves. Politicians (not scientists, so much) will run around on private jets and SUV's to tell us what governmental controls and sacrifices we will have to accept to save ourselves.

There are so many flaws in the global warming thinking that it is impossible to enumerate them all. But the endpoint is the same in that this will be a pretext for extraordinary government powers.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:44 | 2328384 jeff montanye
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maybe, maybe not.  i'd bet on history which says war is the pretext for extraordinary government powers.  not the war on poverty either but real shooting/blowing people up wars.  like the war on drugs or terrorism for instance.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:03 | 2328209 tahoebumsmith
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With such record warm temps one would think oil prices would be at a record low? WTI? I mean WTF?

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:11 | 2328237 SheepDog-One
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Looks like those A/C utility bills will be a crippler this summer, on top of $4 and higher gas. Well, I'm sure we'll just 'muddle thru' it all.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:14 | 2328244 Vince Clortho
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Part of the ongoing Economic Recovery.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:17 | 2328263 Gully Foyle
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I just read that there is a glut of Natgas. That Natgas prices halved last year.

Now why the fuck didn't my gas company bill half with the drop in price?

Gas company just installed high pressure lines. They claimed those are safer than the previous low pressure lines and easier to detect leaks.

But they burn more gas.

Which means more profit despite Natgas dropping in price.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:27 | 2328319 tahoebumsmith
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I have been singing the same tune all winter. NatGas is down 50% from previous years yet my PG&E Bill has gone up? They claim it's positions they purchased years ago that reflect todays prices? Yeah right...

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:41 | 2328365 FeralSerf
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Once the sheep are used to the higher prices, it's not logical to revert back just because their costs are lower.  It makes more sense to increase other costs, like executive salaries and PUC bribes for example, than to return the savings to the ratepayers.  Most consumers are not aware of the realities of natgas prices either.

PG&E is in bed with the Calif. politicians and their PUC.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:36 | 2328842 GMadScientist
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They have a new rate hike proposal with every bill. Dig:

"This application proposes to adjust residential electric baseline quantities to 50% of average usage (was 55%) and 60% (was 65%) in winter, as allowed by law."

Doesn't look like a higher bill if you're not savvy, but it'll sure enough end up in higher prices if people don't conserve and have the same footprint because they'll hit the higher tiers sooner and more frequently.

Hey Ben! I found your fucking inflation, bitch!

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:45 | 2328394 jeff montanye
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maybe its the enron effect working its way through.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:55 | 2328433 Yes_Questions
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Now why the fuck didn't my gas company bill half with the drop in price?

I'll go with the notion that the extraction and distribution of the substance is ultimately controlled by psychopathic parasites.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:05 | 2328216 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Well i'm deep in the heart of FEMA region 6 , and it's a hell of alot better than it was this time last year,.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:39 | 2328603 hedgeless_horseman
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Thank God!

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:05 | 2328219 ABG LINE
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It's the CHEMTRAILS. Look above you.


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:52 | 2328423 tahoebumsmith
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People must be really stupid if they can't even see what they are doing to the skies. We get sprayed day after day, night after night, 24 fricken 7... Ocassionally they give us a break so we can enjoy a blue sky but very rarely. It amazes me how a Nation of sheep will freak out over Pink Slime and have it removed within weeks yet allow aluminum, barium and other chemicals to be dumped on their heads everyday without making a peep. Wonder where the spike in Autism, depression and other illnesses are coming from? Research it for yourselves before you call it a conspiracy, better yet instead of looking down at your i pad all the time, take some time to look up every now and then and figure it out for yourselves.  FYI, It's not called Global Warming, It's called geoengineering brought to you by the same Oligarchs that control everything else in you lives.

Instead of watching American idol or dancing with the stars, I recommend you take the time to watch this...


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:08 | 2328480 Yes_Questions
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Funny, I had to look down at my iPad to get an explanation of the sky-writing above.   Look up, indeed.

My area is frequented by the trails and maybe its a coincidence, but lots of people are developing respiratory problems (like long lasting upper respiratory infection in terms of symptoms). 


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 16:45 | 2329288 Cathartes Aura
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it's not a "coincidence" - it's ongoing, and intentional. . . as are all the distracting gadgetry that keeps people's minds pre-occupied, and looking down. . . I've given up trying to point out the daily sky patterns to the average amrkn - the amount of times I hear "it's always been like this, that's what clouds look like!"     *eye roll*

lots of pics here, and information on health effects,  (random search, you can do your own, use word "aerosol" for better hits)

chlorella, cilantro, food grade H2O2 inhaled, hepa filters. . . recommended.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 21:22 | 2329992 MobBarley
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It was Edward Teller who first proposed to the US Military
'Operation Cloverleaf' to spray barium salts in the
atmosphere to reflect sunlight and thus cool an earth
that was already anticipated to be warming. Operation Cloverleaf was conceived in the early 1960's. The global
warming agenda is partly self created by mental projection
perhaps much like the Nazi Holocaust, another case of
'reality' somehow coming to mirror prior media projections. Edward Teller who along with Ulam conceived
the notion of compressing fusion fuel with black body
radiation from an atomic bomb. Something that probably
should not work if the conventional and merciful laws of physics
held true. In fact, both Teller and Ulam secretely
felt that the H bomb would be a dud. That it worked
and yielded somewhat higher than their theoretical
calculations was both a surprise and a shock.
A life long shock.

Edward Teller. Super Genius.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:09 | 2328234 SheepDog-One
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I see the warmest temps around the east coast, Wash Dc area.....certainly record levels of hot air and gas are being spewed out of the Wall St, Manhattan news centers, and political centers.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:13 | 2328241 Augustus
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Just saw a report that Anchorage had a record snowfall.

Europe just experienced one of the coldest winters on record.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:17 | 2328268's picture

AGW proponents only accept anecdotal evidence if it fits their illusions.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:22 | 2328287 Flakmeister
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Yep.... that's it... we cherry pick the data....

You guys are truly Orwellian...

How about thia recent nugget

or this compilation of "anectodal" evidence currently in peer-review....


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:40 | 2328608 Colombian Gringo
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Really, Orwell would have laughed in your face. Go back to planting face on Kari Norgaards crotch. It will improve your looks.

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 13:54 | 2328653 Flakmeister
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My are we not erudite... 

It must really suck to only have empty ad hominems in your debating technique repetoire...


Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:29 | 2328720's picture

By its vilification of humanity AGW theory constitutes the greatest ad hominem attack of all time.


"The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself
Club of Rome,

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:46 | 2328882 Flakmeister
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Ah... the master of misrepresentative rhetoric returns....

You should have been the lawyer for the guys that cut down the last tree on Easter Island....

So, by your logic anyone that points out that we are shitting in our own crib hates humanity and are not to be trusted....

The Koch Bros. would be proud that people buy into that syllogism....

Wed, 04/11/2012 - 02:20 | 2333774 GoinFawr
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2 fluffers resented that, but damn did I think it was funny.

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