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A World On The Verge Of War?

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Here is a summary of where the world stands:

From Reuters:

Members of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) are providing non-military assistance in Syria and Iran may get involved militarily if its closest ally comes under attack, commander-in-chief Mohammad Ali Jafari said on Sunday.

 

Jafari's statement is the first official acknowledgement that Iran has a military presence on the ground in Syria where an 18-month-old uprising has left tens of thousands dead.

 

Western countries and Syrian opposition groups have long suspected Iran has troops in Syria. Iran has denied this.

 

"A number of members of the Qods force are present in Syria but this does not constitute a military presence," Iranian news agency ISNA quoted Jafari as saying at a news conference.

 

Qods is an IRGC unit set up to export Iran's ideology. It has been accused of plotting attacks inside Iraq since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

 

Jafari did not indicate how many IRGC members were in Syria but said they were providing "intellectual and advisory help".

 

The Islamic Republic has backed Syria's President Bashar al-Assad since the crisis began and regards his rule as a key part of its axis of resistance against Israel and Sunni Arab states.

 

Jafari also said Iran would change its policy and offer military backing if Syria came under attack.

 

"I say specifically that if Syria came under military attack, Iran would also give military support but it ... totally depends on the circumstances," he said.

Next up: satellite photos somewhere "confirming" beyond a reasonable doubt that weapons of mass destruction are being prepared for usage, and a preemptive war is the only way to not only preserve peace, but to be awarded the Nobel prize in said activity.

What is perfectly obvious to anyone but the most jaded and biased, is that the West will use any opportunity of conflict escalation which in turn will send crude, and gas, prices soaring, to commence the launch of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve release, arguably at just the right time to push down gas prices, which as we showed on Friday have never been higher on this day in history. "Right time", because any SPR release will have the short-term benefit of boosting Obama's re-election chances even more, even if it means surging gas prices after the election.

The reality of course is that the bulk of upside pressure on commodity (crude and gas included) prices is as a result of the Fed and ECB's recent monetization expansion and liquidity tsunami, which does the usual: soothes the symptoms for a few weeks, crushes volatility and creates the impression that all is well.... if only to lead to yet another far more grave outcome. And since there is now officially no limit much debt the Fed will monetize, there is so no limit on how high commodity prices will go.

So while in reality any war, supposedly one which is "regional" and "contained" will merely be a smokescreen to the central banks officially taking over ownership of the insolvent developed world, the likelihood is that a war will neither be "regional" nor "contained" as both countries that make up the axis of a future hard-backed currency, China and Russia, have already made it quite clear that any intervention by the US in regions they themselves consider strategic, such as the Senkaku Islands, Syria and/or Iran, will result in retaliation.

And retaliation by one or more rising superpowers to another fading superpower, will inevitably lead to yet another World War.

Needless to say, nobody could possibly foresee war as the outcome to the global depression ver 2.0: certainly not the Princeton historian who will be, more than anyone else, responsible for it.

 

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Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:40 | 2801044 blunderdog
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Same as in '02, and everything worked out just great that time.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:42 | 2801052 THX 1178
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Surely you don't mean the President... He's not the one in control.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:30 | 2801185 DosZap
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manchild holds the reins of power

And his cousins are stirring the pot..............gosh, and we wonder why all the bowing and ass kissing,now I think the verdict is in.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:15 | 2800965 apberusdisvet
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The preferred way to destroy America is for oil to go to $300; don't need to waste ammo; but DHS has that covered anyway.

If the pyschos are really starting WWIII, then the financial crisis must be ready to go full monty.  I think I'll start my own "bank run" tomorrow.

 

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:30 | 2801007 CunnyFunt
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Nickels are selling for below spot now.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:53 | 2801089 tenpanhandle
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I still got a nickle for mine.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:42 | 2801209 DosZap
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If the pyschos are really starting WWIII,

Then nothing earthly matters, as it will bring  the Second coming.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:18 | 2800975 ozziindaus
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Major wars usually break out when an economic collapse can no longer be contained. The last such evidence is around 2001 after the .COM bust.

Peak in March 2000 (>5000)

By 9/11 it was approaching 1500. All time low hit in early October 2001 (1108). 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:19 | 2800976 Klazy Plick
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Does anybody know the ticker for depleted Uranium?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:25 | 2800994 Money Squid
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FUUP

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:08 | 2801134 HungrySeagull
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Gieger Counter.

 

Derp!

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:20 | 2800981 Yen Cross
Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:03 | 2801121 KK Tipton
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Get your kicks from the man in the white.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:24 | 2800990 Money Squid
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

All hype and no wipe.

Wake me when the bullets been flying for a few days.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:24 | 2800993 The Shootist
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All I know is that when Obummer starts issuings U.S. war bonds, I'll being buying a shitload of them. /sarc

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:25 | 2800995 Bunga Bunga
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Get all the sociopaths behind bars, problem solved.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:26 | 2801000 Joebloinvestor
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The French are already sewing white flags.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:44 | 2801063 tickhound
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The French have always been there when they've needed us.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:47 | 2801069 Yen Cross
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{Joe Blow }and {Tick} " KICK AZZ"   well done boyz!

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:51 | 2801081 Gully Foyle
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tickhound

Didn't the French run a fairly effective underground guerrilla network?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquis_%28World_War_II%29

The Maquis (French pronunciation: [ma?ki]) were the predominantly rural guerrilla bands of the French Resistance. Initially they were composed of men who had escaped into the mountains to avoid conscription into Vichy France's Service du travail obligatoire (STO) to provide forced labour for Germany. In an effort to escape capture and deportation to Germany, what had started as loose groups of individuals became increasingly organized; initially fighting only to remain free, these bands eventually became active resistance groups.[

Operations

Most maquisards operated in the mountainous areas of Brittany and southern France, especially in the Alps and in Limousin. They relied on guerrilla tactics to harass the Milice and German occupation troops. The Maquis also aided the escape of downed Allied airmen, Jews and others pursued by the Vichy and German authorities. Maquisards usually relied on some degree of sympathy or cooperation from the local populace. In March 1944, the German Army began a terror campaign throughout France. This included reprisals against civilians living in areas where the French Resistance was active. The Maquisards were later to take their revenge in the épuration sauvage that took place after the war's end.[3]

Most of the Maquis cells — like the Maquis du Limousin or the Maquis du Vercors - took names after the area they were operating in. The size of these cells varied from tens to thousands of men and women.

In French Indochina, the local resistance fighting the Japanese since 1941 was backed up by a special forces airborne commando unit created by de Gaulle in 1943, and known as the Corps Léger d'Intervention (CLI). They were supplied by airlifts of the British Force 136.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:16 | 2801155 tickhound
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I dunno... On a good day I think our Salvation Army can kick France's ass.

But to answer your question.  Yes they did... It's a joke, dude.  After my time here I'd prefer to tell them without having to preface every comment with an 'appropriate' worldview.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:36 | 2801199 Floodmaster
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$700 billion vs 60 ...

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:28 | 2801003 kevinearick
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Once capital pulls the majority into its black ops hole..

it's like pong for germans...

can't have the middle class operators watching from the skybooth; all wars are civil wars...

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:31 | 2801005 lolmao500
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Impossible! The UN is there to save us all!

Let's mention that many here predicted this would happen because of the banksters/dictatorships need to divert attention from a crashed economy.

Some more news on the Chinese front...

- Tuesday is the anniversary of 1931 Mukden Incident, used to justify Japanese invasion of Manchuria. Expect escalation in Chinese protests.

- Summer fishing moratorium in East China Sea ends today (aka more incidents coming with fishing boats)

- Kyodo new agency is now saying anti-Japanese protests held in 85 cities across China. (which is much bigger than anything else previously)

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:22 | 2801301 Lore
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"The UN is there to save us all!"

Nope, not yet. Too soon. Gotta break all those pesky "nations" first.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:27 | 2801451 lolmao500
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That was sarcasm of course and it was directed at all the pro-UN tools who said the UN would stop war.

Since the UN was created I think there were more wars than at any time in history... except between big powers... and that is due to MAD... due to nuclear weapons.

Get rid of the UN, give everybody nukes, problem solved.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:32 | 2801016 Hannibal
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The United States has been "at war" since 1776, WTF it's just too damn profitable.

ps:  still in "paper" folks?,...hint, hint!

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:34 | 2801021 blunderdog
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Sweet.  Such perfect weather in NYC for it!

Time to dust off my "THE END IS NEAR!" sign and go meet the public.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:34 | 2801024 Jason T
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That Ben decided to tell all he would repay them in "Ben Confetti" is the mother of all global geo policatal game changers.  

They ain't gonna want the Ben Confetti from Washington I telll you.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:40 | 2801025 bob_dabolina
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<------- War is natural to the human condition

<------- World peace is possible

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:44 | 2801064 THX 1178
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<------------------Both

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:57 | 2801098 Bear
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You're right ... I think Tolstoy got it right "War and Peace"

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:09 | 2801135 THX 1178
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DOWNVOTING WAS NOT AN OPTION YOU FUCK!!!!!!!

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:17 | 2801150 bob_dabolina
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Your premise is axiomatically atypical.

Schrodinger's theory only works in make believe land or monetary policy/theory

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:22 | 2801167 THX 1178
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Your choice of "possible" bypasses Schrodinger. They are not mutually exclusive after all. Yes, it is possible that both are the case, therefore, it is necessary to include a third option. 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:30 | 2801180 bob_dabolina
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There was nothing I declared or asked as "possible" only the two definite conclusions of which only one is true and real.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:30 | 2801187 THX 1178
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"<------- World peace is possible"

That is a quote from you.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:34 | 2801194 bob_dabolina
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And is it?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:35 | 2801198 THX 1178
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Yes, world peace is possible, and so is the state in which war is natural to the human condition. Nature can be supressed.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:41 | 2801207 bob_dabolina
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Listen.

Living on Pluto is possible. Living on the sun is possible.

I don't see why you have to take such a simple question and break it down to the quantum level.

Is it possible for the entirety of the universe to be full of light and absent of light at the same time?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:45 | 2801223 DosZap
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 Living on the sun is possible.

bob,

Really?,really?,don't think so dude.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:49 | 2801231 bob_dabolina
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That's a limiting belief.

You're holding yourself back from your full potential.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:54 | 2801239 falak pema
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he likes his eggs deep fried.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:46 | 2801224 THX 1178
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Listen?

I agree, I think living on Pluto is possible.

I would like you to explain to me how living on the sun is possible.

I don't know what you mean by "quantum level."

You are the one taking things to the quantum level to prove your point. The quantum level operates at different way than the world WE inhabit... the rules don;t translate. At least not in a meaningful way.

After all, you were the one who used the term possible in the first place, not me! You are the one dealing in quantum nonsense. 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:42 | 2801213 THX 1178
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You probably should have said,

<---------World peace is impossible

<---------World peace is possible

 

THESE are mutually exclusive Or

 

<--------War is not natural to the human condition

<--------War is natural to the human condition

 

THESE TOO!!!!

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:46 | 2801222 bob_dabolina
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calm down, jfc

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:47 | 2801227 THX 1178
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I'm very calm, I'm quite enjoying this. You know I'm right. you know YOU CHOSE "possible."

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:01 | 2801245 bob_dabolina
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So you really think world peace is possible?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:02 | 2801254 THX 1178
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Yes.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:10 | 2801263 bob_dabolina
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When every human being on Earth lives in the same sized home, has the same amount of cars, has the same looking wife/husband, has the same amount of gold, has the same amount of money, has the same amount of personal accoutrements, and has the same level of productivity output...

You might as well live on the sun until then.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:00 | 2801376 THX 1178
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This is not a necessity for world peace. Different people desire different things, so why would this be necessary for world peace. Some people like minimal lifestyles, some people are asexual and old religious zealots die off. Thats what old people do dontcha know.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:16 | 2801432 bob_dabolina
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Bullshit and you know it.

The oldest archeological discovery of a human had a hole busted in his skull. Someone wanted his shit.

We are violent by nature. It's how it's always been, how it currently is, and how it always will be.

If you think world peace is possible then I will meet you on the sun one day.

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:31 | 2801458 akak
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We are violent by nature.

And I say bullshit to that.

Who is this "we" to whom you are referring?  Because neither I, nor any of my close associates, are "violent by nature".  I would assert that your cynical and erroneous assessment only applies  to sociopaths and psychopaths (who are not quite as rare as they themselves would have us believe).

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:06 | 2801519 bob_dabolina
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Who is this "we" to whom you are referring?

Civilization.

Pick up ANY history book.

After you've read ANY history book, re-read the article which you are posting on.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:11 | 2801529 akak
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Sophistry and nonsense.

You are attempting to blame the crimes and evil of the sociopaths and psychopaths who act as our leaders, and who masquerade as our "defenders", on all of humanity.  That is as idiotic, insulting and contemptible as our dear Chinese troll friend AnAnonymous attempting to blame the crimes of the US Federal Government on every American citizen past, present and future.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:47 | 2801548 THX 1178
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Someone wanted his shit? How do you know? This seems like quite a jump. I agree that we are violent by nature, but I don't think it is a fact. Its more of an opinion. It is not possible to know whether or not it will always be this way. I think humanity can engineer for itself a pretty kickass world, but we just have to suffer tremendously for it. In fact, I think world peace will be achieved eventually when humanity builds a fully-automated mode of production, and our mutuall investments in it provided dividens that keep us more-than-satisfied. Just give it time, read Jeremy Rifkin, Marshall Brain, and others.

 

PS. You must be a time traveller: 1. Someone wanted his shit & 2."how it will always be"

 

AMAZING!!!!

 

PPS. also, you said earlier it is possible to live on the sun, so I don't see how that last sentence packs even the slightest punch at all.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 20:17 | 2801686 bob_dabolina
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You'll figure it out.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 20:56 | 2801834 THX 1178
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Hmm. Good way to not have to explain why I'm wrong without explaining why you're right! IOW, great linguistic sleight of hand.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 21:44 | 2801966 bob_dabolina
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World peace right?

I'll keep an eye open waiting for it.

(I won't)

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:34 | 2801195 THX 1178
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Where is the evidence that only one of these conclusions is true and real? It is obvious to me that both can exist at the same time. It is possible that war is natural to the human condition, but it can be supressed thoroughly via various factors to the point that world peace is achieved. Human sexuality is the same way-- look at islamic cultures. Public and gratuitous sex is natural to the human condition, circumstances can be generated in which "no public sex" etc. it present.

 

THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:23 | 2801443 blunderdog
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You demand a lot of the reader, dude.  That understanding is about a 5th century BC level of intellectual achievement.

OBVIOUSLY not everyone has caught up to that point yet.

(I should know, too--MY assumption has always been that I'm writing for people who are on board with the understanding of Enlightenment principles.  Oh, well.)

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:37 | 2801557 THX 1178
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I don't understand. My understanding is akin to a 5th century BC understanding? It doesn't necessarily have to be an authoritarian force which demands conformity/behavior... it could be non hierarchical like "keeping up with the jonses" or sexual shame... Authorities keep people in check, but then again so does a man's fear of social ostracization. I'm afraid of being rejected by my peer group so I don't pull my cock out in public. I have anger issues, and want to punch people in the face, but I don't, because i don't want to be locked up. Its my nature, but I still don't do it. This gets back to bob D.'s original post...

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 20:13 | 2801666 blunderdog
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AND/NAND/OR/NOR.

Aristotle.  It escapes many to this day.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 20:53 | 2801821 THX 1178
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Oh... haha... But the again, so does Korzybski.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 01:13 | 2802334 Mysteerious Roo...
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Gawd. You talk like a socioloigist.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 01:21 | 2802344 THX 1178
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Its amazing that this is what America has come to. GAWD, you sound educated.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:35 | 2801027 Steel_Preacher
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BOOM BITCHEZ!

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:35 | 2801029 Venerability
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As we grizzled veterans of the PM sector know, since the end of apartheid, South African labor unrest is THE most important factor in moving the Gold price into an entirely new higher trading range.

It is quite literally much more important than anything else.

This has happened about six times in the past fifteen years. It always occurs this time of year. And each time, after a short appropriate lag-time for powerful Shorts to cover, the new, higher POG range is confirmed.

Anyone who has not yet placed their (Bullish) bets in the Gold sector is urged to do so within the next two weeks.

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:43 | 2801053 Red Heeler
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It will be $2000 before a cat can lick its tail.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:19 | 2801435 knukles
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Even better, $3,000 before Jennifer Aniston licks my balls?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:55 | 2801506 Red Heeler
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Knennifer. That just doesn't work for me.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 21:42 | 2801971 Law97
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Probably more like $3 quadrillion before she licks your balls.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:49 | 2801079 Yen Cross
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Good pointe'. The only thing being mined in " Capetown" is "LEAD"!

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:48 | 2801228 Floodmaster
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South Africa is no. 2 in gold

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:56 | 2801242 Yen Cross
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I was being " facetious" . The recent and ongoing,  "xau/diamond"mine strikes!

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:36 | 2801030 Publicus
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunami_bomb

I would highly recommand the evacutation of all flat costal cities.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:37 | 2801033 Lost Wages
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The future's so bright, I've gotta wear shades.

Shades strong enough to protect me from global thermonuclear war.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:11 | 2801138 KK Tipton
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That never happens. Too quick.

They need long drawn out hostilities to really make the bucks.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:37 | 2801037 q99x2
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If the elite banksters have to go to WWIII to keep China from getting oil well so be it Hillary will have her way.

End tomorrow. Repudiate your debts.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:39 | 2801042 cherry picker
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I agree with the analysis. 

However, those who will suffer the most are the innocents on either side, those who have no control over their respective governments.

If the normal citizen on both sides refuses to pick up arms or support war, in effect passive resistance, we may have a fighting chance for peace.

This is something that could breath life into the likes of OWS and the Arab Fall, peace,,,

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:49 | 2801078 P.T.Bull
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During the world wars and vietnam we learned that the government can indeed force people to be cannon fodder with the threat of imprisonment. And the public will go along with this as long as the minstream media advocates on behalf of the government. I think of my own son's and imagine what it would be like to watch one's son drafted into the military and die in the pointless vietnam war--talk about abuse of power from the government.

Those who get all het up when I call vietnam pointless: I ask them what exactly would have been the benefit to the us of winning the vietnam war? Permanent military occupation of rice paddies and water buffalo?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:00 | 2801107 cherry picker
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I have friends who served in Vietnam.  Two were highly decorated, one of them died from ALS which many suspect is a by product of agent orange.

I asked my now dead friend if he knew what he was fighting for.  "The president asked us to go, we have to go."

I understand the need to pick up arms in case of invasion as in self defence.  However I fail to see what all these actions since WW11 have to do with self defense and those who are defending the sovereignity of their country or are fighting to avenge the deaths of innocents are branded as "insurgents"

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:08 | 2801132 MiltonFriedmans...
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Ron Paul would have been such an appropriate choice for the presidency it drips with irony.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:26 | 2801448 blunderdog
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    what exactly would have been the benefit to the us of winning the vietnam war? Permanent military occupation of rice paddies and water buffalo?

It would've prevented all of SE Asia from turning commie.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 20:00 | 2801615 Clycntct
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"I ask them what exactly would have been the benefit to the us of winning the vietnam war?"

Cheaper sneakers.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:41 | 2801047 Red Heeler
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"There isn't any way to libel the human race." - Mark Twain

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:42 | 2801048 Joebloinvestor
Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:59 | 2801103 grid-b-gone
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Clint speaking to an empty chair is the most civil two-way exchange we're likely to witness anytime soon.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:43 | 2801058 Bear
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Calm down ... calm down, all is well on the home front

"Apple expected the pre-orders to be a 10-hour cycle, and they were shocked that it was just one hour. They clearly were caught by surprise by the size of the orders," Doherty says. Had they continued fulfilling online orders, "they might have only had two phones available at stores on Friday."

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:43 | 2801059 Jim Billy Bob J...
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Exactly what I have thought but been ridiculed for stating.

Remember this - war covers a multitude of mistakes made by governments, therefore world wars cover a multitude of mistakes made by world governments

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:44 | 2801062 Eally Ucked
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First I would recommend to apply a bit more stimulus to get those fuckers-terrorist to starve. Next I would send few hundreds more of those drones there, we have to hunt them down. If its no enough lets cruise missile them fuckers, in few years they all be friendly to us.  

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:14 | 2801146 tuttisaluti
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Sending armed planes or drones to other countrys is a act of war and can backfire sometimes.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:45 | 2801067 P.T.Bull
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I consider what the savages do to our middle eastern embassies to be threats to the US only to the extent the military industrial complex uses them as a pretext for expanding our permawar. Absent that, this is just some tawdry busines among the starry-eyed utopians at state. What if we had no embassies in the middle east? Would anybody but the military and federal government notice the difference?

I could be accused of naivete, of how the embassies are crucial for spying and relationship building, but if an embassy can't protect itself from a crowd of savages with america-supplied hand carried weapons, how competent are they at helping protect the rest of the US.

And as a gold investor, sadly, the more america destroys herself, the more my portfolio increases against the dollar--sort of the more I retain wealth while the wealth of the middle class is diminished by QE, borrowing, and war.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:51 | 2801072 walcott
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Mother theresa save everything on the planet no matter how diseased disformed retarded and do it at whatever cost to the entire species has created all this bullshit. So basically we have a world population equivalent to 1,000 retards that are in comas and drowning in a radiated ocean. Their solution? A massive police force of sub 20 IQ neandethals arm them to teeth and have them shoot the few remaining lifeguards who can save their drowning asses.

 

Fuck that!

And take all this religious nazi commie weirdo fundamentalist shit and stick it. 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 15:52 | 2801085 orangegeek
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Wars occur after depressions. Markets haven't hit bottom.

 

It's interesting that the Guv would juice the markets while they are at four year highs.

 

Now that's confidence for you.

 

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:51 | 2801236 LMAOLORI
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I don't think that's confidence I think it's desperation. Obama's been the best pres for stocks but the worse for spending Ben's printing enables him to continue and at the same time greases his buddies profits but wards off the Depression until after the election.

Guess Which President Has Been Best for Stocks?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:06 | 2801127 barroter
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Forget the book's title. Stipulated that capitalist socieities need  war every now and again. Would sure get rid of that pesky unemployment problem.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:12 | 2801266 GlomarHabu
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It's merciful you've forgotten the books title given that if it contains the premise you stated then it was written by a person or people who display a stupendous ignorance of history.

 

War is the natural state of mankind and preceded any form of capitalism by centuries too numerous to count. Peace is just the aberrant interstitial period between wars. All one need do is pick any world history book. Open it to any page and then search the fifty pages before your opening page and fifty pages after. It is almost impossible not to run into a narrative on war, any war. War will always be with us.

And even if Plato never said it, it is a notable observation.

“ONLY THE DEAD HAVE SEEN THE END OF WAR”

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:06 | 2801129 JPMorgan
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I doubt there will ever be a nuclear war, it's a deterrent... a political insurance policy.

There is little to be gained from making large areas of the earth inhabitable and killing millions of debt slaves.

Nah they would rather send in the drones and kill more precisely with more conventional weapons that will not harm the natural resources they intend to take over.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:27 | 2801181 TrustWho
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Cuban missle crisis: Soviets understood and stood down. Cuba urged firing the Soviet missles. More Cubas in the world have nuclear arms. They will be unleashed. We can only hope that the coming nuclear war will be regional, short and contained. India vs. Pakistan or North Korea vs. anybody are the two examples that might stop short of a dark human tragedy. Even these examples will be worse than 1945 experience.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:28 | 2801312 Winston Churchill
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Wrong.

JFK blinked first , agreed to remove US nukes from Turkey,and

then the USSR backed down on Cuba.

Revisionism strikes again.

Orwell,s Ministry of Truth is alive and well.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:31 | 2801459 blunderdog
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'Course, the Cubans only tried to ally with the Russkies after we botched a terrorist invasion of that shit-stain island in the first place.

Freekin' ridiculous.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:53 | 2801500 TrustWho
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Cuba is a beautiful island with beautiful people.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 20:17 | 2801680 blunderdog
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Is that why we helped send those crazy assholes over there in '61?  For the babes and the beaches?  I thought it was something else...

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:52 | 2801496 TrustWho
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They both blinked as they realized the end result of their game would be tragic for their nation and they agreed on a compromise face-saving solution

Soviet ships transporting missles to Cuba stopped at the navy blockade, dead in the water and turned around with their load to Soviet Union. Soviet missles were removed from Cuba and later USA removed missles from Turkey. 

The hotline was installed by both parties to reduce the risk of war.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:44 | 2801214 dwdollar
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I would be VERY careful with that assumption. Obviously, the people in charge right now would rather have 99% of the world as debt slaves, but when dumbed down zombie-fied debt slaves finally revolt they often install some crazy psychopath who is even worse.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:21 | 2801287 formadesika3
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There is little to be gained from making large areas of the earth [un]inhabitable and killing millions of debt slaves.

_________________________

 

I'd like to believe you. However, there was a TV documentary not long ago ('Nature' doc? tried to find a link but couldn't) about the lingering aftereffects on the natural environment in the areas surrounding Chernobyl some 20-odd years later. IIRC, even within sight of the reactor core, radiation effects had only elevated genetic mutations some 2% from normal base levels of <.5-1%. All types of wildlife were thriving. Apparently, species can easily increase reproduction rates to overcome mutative effects/genetic failures.

Please note I'm not trying to beat the drum for nuclear power industry. My point is that Chernobyl was a giant unplanned, ongoing experiment and TPTB can't fail to have noticed the results thus far. Maybe they are recalculating the costs/benefits right now. To what extent this (Chernobyl) differs from an all-out nuclear war is the key question.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:36 | 2801468 blunderdog
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   To what extent this (Chernobyl) differs from an all-out nuclear war is the key question.

The most obvious difference: Chernobyl was "dirty" and localized.  An all out thermonuclear exchange (no way would it be nuclear stuff) would be "clean" and global in scope.

In terms of fallout/nuke effects: folks nearer the poles would be hit second-hardest, after the first billion vaporization victims.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 21:38 | 2801954 formadesika3
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One thing's for sure. Benny won't be in his penthouse stroking his pet.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:18 | 2801158 monopoly
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And we did not mention that 6 Harrier Jets were blown up by the Taliban last night. 2 more Americans and 4 British soldiers killed. How the hell does an enemy in sandals and bathrobes continue to beat us up. Just amazing.

Ya know, I am sick of Barry, and think he is a destructive and ignorant President,  but I am starting to feel sorry for him. He is so out of his comfort zone on international matters. He does not have a clue what to do. Hello Hillary!!! Help.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 21:49 | 2801988 Law97
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If Hillary had won the nomination in 2008, at least we might have had a president with some balls.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:49 | 2801233 lolmao500
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And next year, the Philippines will start exploring for gas and oil in contested waters. China said they wouldn't allow it... so I guess we'll see.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:59 | 2801250 Yen Cross
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That "500"is a very serious question, from a very Smart Person.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:57 | 2801244 Negro Primero
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"World War III: the unthinkable cost of preserving the petrodollar"

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/09/16/world-war-iii-the-unthinkable-co...

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 16:59 | 2801248 UserZero
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Well played, you Mayan mofos; well played.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:09 | 2801265 Atomizer
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Bring it on! Armchair media propagandist will be set back for another 40 years. Nothing better than using a left wing movie to illustrate their own fate..

 

Counting Bodies Like Sheep 

The communist party will repeat history by declaring a Holocaust. Wash, rinse and repeat.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:12 | 2801271 JR
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Tyler, thanks for an excellent non-biased summary of a world steaming blindly along in waters where icebergs can hide much of their dangerous bulk below the surface.

Are today’s world leaders wiser and more prudent than the men whose pride, ignorance, ambition and greed succeeded in slaughtering 37 million people after the archduke was assassinated in 1914?

Well, I wouldn’t count on it: Obama, the banker puppet who doesn’t like Americans very much; Bernanke, the professor who knows so much on how depressions are made that he couldn’t resist starting one of his own; Romney, whose ambition makes him say and do literally anything to get elected; Mario Draghi who would use a banking cartel to obliterate the properties of Europe and drive the people into slavery, and Netanyahu who if no one else will fight WWIII for him, would fly a jet into Tehran himself just to get it started -- versus the powers of Islam, China and Russia, led by Putin with the nerve to make the West pay for its aggression.

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:36 | 2801469 supermaxedout
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I completely agree with your statement. Except what you write about Draghi.

Draghi is only protecting the money of Euroland. Which is the greatest wealth Euroland has. Its more or les their only treasure besides the skills and productivity of its population.

A collapse of the Euro would simply mean that Eurolands capital base is gone. And this lost capital is badly needed when it comes to the task to create new jobs in Euroland. Without capital no business can be founded or extended. No capital means no jobs.

 

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:17 | 2801282 BlackholeDivestment
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...now would be the perfect time to detonate a WMD in a city, and nothing sends a message like doing it to yourself ...again. What will this event do? Lol. I wonder. 

I see peace on the horizon, and Jerusalem at the center of the seal.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:17 | 2801284 Publicus
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Also, just found out that Occupy Wall Street will happen tomorrow.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:15 | 2801536 BlackholeDivestment
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...so you got the State Department memo and you are going to Arabian Disney Land with kids.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:20 | 2801297 lizzy36
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Too late for me to get a "war horse"?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:33 | 2801316 Lore
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It's not as if American agencies have been nosing around other sovereign nations (1, 2).

Iran says will hit Hormuz, US bases, Israel if attacked

  

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:38 | 2801347 supermaxedout
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The war at the end of the Dollar.

http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/ron-hera/the-war-at-the-end-o...

My opinion. Iran is protected already by Russian and Chinese nukes stationed in Iran. The line in the sand is drawn by Russia and China: Do not attack Iran.

BTW.  The Iranians have an arsenal of very effective land to sea rockets, portable and mobile. These rockets can destroy carrier units hundreds of miles away from the coast. I wonder what kind of bang it makes when such a rocket hits nuclear war heads. At least it would cause a Fukoshima like pollution of the Persian gulf

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:39 | 2801474 blunderdog
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   I wonder what kind of bang it makes when such a rocket hits nuclear war heads.

Not so much of one.  Could potentially spread a bit of fissible material, but it's not likely.  The undetonated warheads (for the most part) would end up on the bottom of the Strait/Sea.

Obvious outcome?  GODZILLA!

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:40 | 2801351 kornholio
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BULLISH

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 17:57 | 2801387 GlomarHabu
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Many of the world's challenges and its march toward a world war have been developing over many years. Old grievances, disputes over territory, desire for more power, etc.  It's a list paralleling in many ways mankind’s foibles.

 

But the question must be asked what has stimulated these challenges to go active seemingly all at the same time?

 

Well, it took a very short time for adversaries to size up obama as a feckless and totally ineffective leader, on all levels. The leader of one of the world’s superpowers and the only superpower to at least pay lip service to the rights of man being run by a man dedicated to destroying his own country. He tanked from the get go.  After his first bow on the international stage he exposed his thought and position on US world leadership. It was red meat to a world always primed to move toward war when a Carter like president emerged, this new one a dedicated, self-admitted Marxist.

 Its political science 101 and obama hasn't a clue, but the rest of the world is now in full take-advantage-of-this-guys-weaknesses mode and they're moving on it right now.

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:00 | 2801394 supermaxedout
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Who Is Pulling The Strings?

But who was it that put us on this course? What kind of psychopath is willing to intentionally set off a global conflict that would lead to millions of deaths just to protect the value of a paper currency?

It obviously isn’t the president. The decision to invade Libya, Syria and Iran was made long before Obama had risen to the national spotlight. And yet he’s carrying out his duty just like the puppets that preceded him. So who is it that pulls the strings?

Often the best answer to questions like these are found by asking another question. Cui bono? Who benefits?

Obviously, those who have the power to print the dollar out of thin air have the most to lose if the dollar was to fall. Since 1913, that power has been held by the Federal Reserve.

"World War III: the unthinkable cost of preserving the petrodollar"

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/09/16/world-war-iii-the-unthinkable-co...

 

Thanks Negro Primero. Great link.

The Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE entity, owned by a conglomerate of the most powerful banks in the world. And the men who control those banks are the ones who pull the strings. To them, this is just a game. Your life and the lives of those you love are just pawns on their chess board. And like a spoiled four year old who tips the board on to the floor when he starts to lose, the powers that be are willing to start World War III to keep control of the global financial system.

Remember this when these wars extend and accelerate. Remember this when your son or your daughter comes back home in a flag draped coffin. Remember this when they point the finger at the new boogeyman.

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:36 | 2801470 GlomarHabu
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Often the best answer to questions like these are found by asking another question. Cui bono? Who benefits?

Very nice observation and the cui bono aspect, I believe is right on the money.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:51 | 2801492 Radical Marijuana
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... ELECTRONIC FIAT MONEY,

BACKED BY ATOMIC BOMBS!

And I REPEAT, that it is too bad, and so sad,
that we appear to be at this point in history:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5N_huInM0k

WWIII Is Coming Soon & Here’s Why!?

Our weapons do NOT protect freedom and democracy, they protect the banksters' FRAUDS. Therefore, the entire system is lies, backed by violence. However, that violence can never make those lies become true. Hence, the whole system inevitablly drives itself mad and madder, until it MUST go through some insane psychotic breakdowns.

The only question is when, and whether those breakdowns will eventually kill off almost everyone? There is no doubt that this will kill hundred of millions, and possibly billions ... and IF it becomes a total global war, using more than a few hundred atomic bombs, then the total deaths will be almost 7 billion.

This is the working through of the established social habits of those who have benefitted from their past activities of operating bigger frauds, backed by more violence. However, there is nothing in history to have taught anyone that world war with weapons of mass destruction is a BAD IDEA.

The people who are in control NOW are insane, because all their personal and social habits were due to the past events, where backing up frauds with violence worked out well enough for them ... They have no way to stop gambling and continuing to risk it all on their efforts to achieve a global consolitdation of their systems of fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting, backed by force.

The problem is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for that system of fundamentally fraudulent financial fraud to be sustainable. This is the runaway insanity of the triumph of huge lies, by being backed by violence, through the methods of organized crime controlling our governments.

We are going to be coerced to go through an insane revolution, which will be just as insane as world war with weapons of mass destruction!!!

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:03 | 2801402 dark pools of soros
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make the war big enough to crumble this feckless corporation culture.. with all its task forces and committees and action plans and 6 sigma zombie nations...just like the old British Army ... remember how we could never understand why they just marched in plain sight into ambushes?

 

 

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:04 | 2801403 Yen Cross
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" DEFINE WAR"?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:54 | 2801501 Radical Marijuana
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Violence to back up lies.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:23 | 2801441 Heroic Couplet
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So for ALL the bullcrap about Greece, Greece isn't really important anymore?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:32 | 2801462 dark pools of soros
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just a petri dish

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:53 | 2801499 Radical Marijuana
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Greece is symbolic, as the first hostage victim the kidnappers kill, to prove they are serious.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 18:24 | 2801445 Fix It Again Timmy
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Where Art Reason...?

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:01 | 2801512 Tommy Gunner
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Picture Benny B strummin on a banjo 'lookit me big carck... i got it off a donkey in the Ghan.... don't ya just luv me big old carck... it's ma pride and joy'

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:01 | 2801513 SanOvaBeach
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ZH'ers r loser's!..... WHY..... because your a bunch of pesudeo intelllectuals......FUCK YOU...easy to critisize.......FUCK YoU..... What do we do now assholes...you don't have an answer....nieither do I...Fuck you...................LOSERS

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:58 | 2801609 GlomarHabu
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Well stated. Might I suggest a better moniker for you?      Captain Coprolalia . It has a nice ring to it and I believe truly fits your style.

FYI...  Coprolalia is involuntary swearing or the involuntary utterance of obscene words or socially inappropriate and derogatory remarks.

Also coprolalia is a Greek word meaning "feces"  ...

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 20:54 | 2801824 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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*EDIT* Don't feed the trolls. No response necessary.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:02 | 2801515 cranky-old-geezer
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yawn

Wake me up when nukes start flying.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:10 | 2801525 chump666
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That made me chuckle.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 19:14 | 2801533 indygo55
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Went to a gun show today. Big half off sale of used French assault rifles. Every one of them were never fired and olny dropped once.

 

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 02:41 | 2802425 Nikao7
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Good one LOL....the poor French always getting picked on sor surrendering lol

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 20:23 | 2801593 Element
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Unfortunately we are getting very close to combat.

Israel's insane Govt is determined to create a pretext to start an attack on Iran, and it will be examining and determining the sort of outrage that would be required to justify a very rapid escalation, one that Washington can not short-circuit or stop from occurring.   Something ugly enough, with enough Israeli families killed, that they can act outraged, refuse council or warnings from Washington, and go ahead and start firing at Iran soon after.

They would probably go with a combination of conventionally-armed ballistic and cruise missile attack, and thus drag the US Navy into being compelled to shoot down an Iranian missile counter-attack.  At which point the US will also feel compelled to start operations against Iranian Naval and air force elements and missile batteries.

We are in a very dangerous situation here, and the one thing that must happen now is for Israel to be warned very bluntly about trying to instigate something like this.

All global powers must immediately warn the Israeli Government that the State of Israel will be held directly militarily accountable, economically liable, and its leaders personally legally responsible and punishable, if they choose to engage in any operations that result in the commencement and calculated escalation of an international regional missile war.

- 

Iran says will hit Hormuz, US bases, Israel if attacked
 
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The head of Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guards on Sunday warned of retaliation against the Gulf's strategic Strait of Hormuz, US bases in the Middle East and Israel if his country was to be attacked.
 
General Mohammad Ali Jafari, speaking in a very rare news conference in Tehran, also said that he believed Iran would abandon the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty should it be targeted for military action.
 
The warnings underlined the high tensions surrounding Iran and its disputed nuclear program, which Israel has threatened it could seek to disrupt with air strikes, with or without US help.
 
Jafari said the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow channel at the entrance of the Gulf through which a third of the world's traded oil passes, would be a legitimate target for Iran should it be attacked.
 
"This is a declared policy by Iran that if war occurs in the region and the Islamic republic is involved, it is natural that the Strait of Hormuz as well as the energy [market] will face difficulties," he said.
 
Jafari suggested that US military bases – such as those in Bahrain, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia – would also be fair game for retaliation by Iranian missiles or proxy forces.
 
"The US has many vulnerabilities around Iran, and its bases are within the range of the Guards' missiles. We have other capabilities as well, particularly when it comes to the support of Muslims for the Islamic republic," he said.
 
He added that Tehran believed Israel was unsuccessfully trying to push the United States to take part in military action against Iran's nuclear facilities.
 
"I do not think the attack would be carried out without US permission," he said.

 

[which is the signal that the US will be held responsible, because the US can stop this occurring] 

 

However if Israeli jets or missiles did strike Iran, "nothing of Israel will be left, considering its size," he warned.
 
"I do not think any part of Israel will be untouched given our missile capabilities. Thus, our response [warning of annihilator retaliation] is in itself a deterrent."

 

[This is a clear warning that if a War is started and escalated Iran intends to use existing missile capabilities that can already militarily realistically achieve that result. Which is the bluntest warning issued so far, that Iranian warhead destructive capabilities are at a level that can obliterate a whole state]

 

Jafari said that his personal opinion was that, in case of attack, Iran would leave the NPT which is meant to prevent states developing nuclear weapons while permitting atomic energy generation.
 
"In case of an attack, Iran's obligations will change. My assessment is that Iran may leave the NPT – but it would not mean a dash towards a nuclear bomb because we have a religious edict from the supreme leader" against atomic weapons, he said.

 

[i.e. this edict can and will change, at that point.  This is the bluntest warning ever issued by Iran, and the nuclear bomb is now in play. Which by implication now means, and requires, that the Iranian military is now formally preparing for the possible need of producing deliverable viable credible atomic munitions at short notice.  Happy now Israel and Washington? Was it worth it?]
 
-AFP
 
http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=437041

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Right now is the time to put an end to this insane regional spiral or we'll all profoundly regret that we said and did nothing to make a difference, to that sort of outcome unfolding in front of us.  There is no room in our world, in any Capital, any administration, any legislative chamber, for politicians willing or desirous to talk-up a hubristic path to regional missile wars between nuclear-capable countries.

If people in 1946 could see what's happening in the world today, could see all the missiles and great-bombs and spiraling international death-threats, what do you think their response would be to it?  What would immediately come to mind to them?

That's what needs to be said, right now.

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That's what needs to be said, right now.

True. but it wouldn't do any good.

Mon, 09/17/2012 - 02:16 | 2802404 cranky-old-geezer
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"nothing of Israel will be left, considering its size,"

hmmmmm, maybe said war isn't such a bad thing after all

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 23:25 | 2801607 TomGa
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On this morning's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Brian Ross reported unequivocably that "according to sources,"  Iran is only 4 to 6 weeks (yes, "weeks," NOT months) away from a fully assembled nuclear weapon from the time at which they decide to construct one.

 

Amanpour and Raddatz just about jumped down his throat while falling all over themselves to say it coiuld also be a year or more. LOL.

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