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A World On The Verge Of War?
Here is a summary of where the world stands:
- Unable to reach a compromise over the weekend, South Africa is now in an all out labor strike, with the police again firing rubber bullets at miners with lethal escalation guaranteed
- Back from vacation, the once again penniless citizens of Spain, Greece, and Portugal have resumed protesting austerity
- US embassies attacked, in many cases with numerous casualties, in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Sudan, Lebanon, India, Balgadesh, Indonesia, and others.
- Japan "appropriating" China-contested islands provoking a firestorm of retaliation including demands for "war with Japan"
- The Japanese ambassador to China dying mysteriously
- Netanyahu telling Meet the Press Iran will have a nuke in six-seven months and must be stopped beforehand
- Warships from more than 25 countries, including the United States, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, launching a military exercise in the Straits of Hormuz
- A third US aircraft - the CVN-74 Stennis - carrier is en route to Iran with an ETA of about 10 days
- And finally, a potential catalyst to light this whole mess on fire, Iran's Revolutionary Guard announcing that its troops are now on the ground in Syria.
From Reuters:
Members of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) are providing non-military assistance in Syria and Iran may get involved militarily if its closest ally comes under attack, commander-in-chief Mohammad Ali Jafari said on Sunday.
Jafari's statement is the first official acknowledgement that Iran has a military presence on the ground in Syria where an 18-month-old uprising has left tens of thousands dead.
Western countries and Syrian opposition groups have long suspected Iran has troops in Syria. Iran has denied this.
"A number of members of the Qods force are present in Syria but this does not constitute a military presence," Iranian news agency ISNA quoted Jafari as saying at a news conference.
Qods is an IRGC unit set up to export Iran's ideology. It has been accused of plotting attacks inside Iraq since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
Jafari did not indicate how many IRGC members were in Syria but said they were providing "intellectual and advisory help".
The Islamic Republic has backed Syria's President Bashar al-Assad since the crisis began and regards his rule as a key part of its axis of resistance against Israel and Sunni Arab states.
Jafari also said Iran would change its policy and offer military backing if Syria came under attack.
"I say specifically that if Syria came under military attack, Iran would also give military support but it ... totally depends on the circumstances," he said.
Next up: satellite photos somewhere "confirming" beyond a reasonable doubt that weapons of mass destruction are being prepared for usage, and a preemptive war is the only way to not only preserve peace, but to be awarded the Nobel prize in said activity.
What is perfectly obvious to anyone but the most jaded and biased, is that the West will use any opportunity of conflict escalation which in turn will send crude, and gas, prices soaring, to commence the launch of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve release, arguably at just the right time to push down gas prices, which as we showed on Friday have never been higher on this day in history. "Right time", because any SPR release will have the short-term benefit of boosting Obama's re-election chances even more, even if it means surging gas prices after the election.
The reality of course is that the bulk of upside pressure on commodity (crude and gas included) prices is as a result of the Fed and ECB's recent monetization expansion and liquidity tsunami, which does the usual: soothes the symptoms for a few weeks, crushes volatility and creates the impression that all is well.... if only to lead to yet another far more grave outcome. And since there is now officially no limit much debt the Fed will monetize, there is so no limit on how high commodity prices will go.
So while in reality any war, supposedly one which is "regional" and "contained" will merely be a smokescreen to the central banks officially taking over ownership of the insolvent developed world, the likelihood is that a war will neither be "regional" nor "contained" as both countries that make up the axis of a future hard-backed currency, China and Russia, have already made it quite clear that any intervention by the US in regions they themselves consider strategic, such as the Senkaku Islands, Syria and/or Iran, will result in retaliation.
And retaliation by one or more rising superpowers to another fading superpower, will inevitably lead to yet another World War.
Needless to say, nobody could possibly foresee war as the outcome to the global depression ver 2.0: certainly not the Princeton historian who will be, more than anyone else, responsible for it.
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A US source is making stuff up, to continue with the war-mongering inertia ... how surprising.
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What Al Arabiya's cartoonist is thinking today:
http://www.alarabiya.net/files/bazaar/car_3_18037_4959.jpg
Are you any relation to Bhagdad Bob?
Let's refresh our memories. You will want to pay special attention since you must have trained in the same propaganda school as BhagBob
This stuff is really rich.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9aW1atFLMM&feature=related
Curious rant/smear as my only comment was the following:
Which is apparently true.
Tylers post quoted this [my bold emphasis]:
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Which means the content of my post was entirely relevant to the topic, as reuters asserted that Ali Jafari has said Iran may become militarily involved in Syria soon. But someone from Ali Jafari's in-circle denied that was said. Plus a source close to the Head of Qods also said what's being reported about pending Iranian military involvement in Syria, has no basis, and is not what has been said by Iran.
See how point and counterpoint works Habu? Are you able to keep up?
Western MSM outlets are claiming Iran is about to go into combat on the ground in Syria and Lebanon, while Iran is saying they have not said that at all, and are not intending to do that.
This seems a little bit relevant to me Habu.
But curiously, it's a side of the story that you, for some reason, don't want voiced or clarified ... is that right?
So, GlomarHabu, it's you imitating Badgad-Bob here.
Jack's total lack of surprise.
I believe I used the word inept or unqualified or another word to describe obamas entire policy world. I do apologise since I left out the entire Socialist Democratic Party. This really says it all.
"Democrats apologized Wednesday for using a fleet of Russian warships as the backdrop for a Democratic National Convention tribute to U.S. military veterans, blaming a vendor for the mistake."
Yeah, a vendor ... in obamaworld its always someone elses mistake . Blame the vendor,blame the youtube film maker,blame a guy whose been out of office for years but whatever you do perpetuate THE BIG LIE and never ever take responsibility for your own administration.
You can't make this stuff up ......
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/dems-apparently-used-russian-war-ship-in-convention-tribute-to-vets/?intcmp=obinsite#ixzz26gPNrItS
Oh look, those cwazy Iranian nutters are now saying sane rational and common-sense stuff!
But aren't these the global 'baddies', I thought evil-doers were incapable of good behaviour?
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Goodness! A voice of stabeeleeetee, a sense of proportional response to contrived and inept attempts at offence and religious cultural incitement.
I wonder what Hillary Clinton is saying today? Or is she too busy with her shipwreck of a US foreign policy portfolio to rant insane self-defeating nonsense ... at this time?
"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Mat 7:20 KJ
It certainly has to be acknowledged that many on this site do not take the words of obama,bernanke,jamie diamond, and a host of others as anything coming close to the truth yourself included.
So can you explain just how you are so enthusiastic in your belief that the statements you quoted, made by an Iranian pooh bah, General Mohammad Ali Jafari, are somehow:
" A voice of stabeeleeetee, a sense of proportional response to contrived and inept attempts at offence and religious cultural incitement"
Exactly what rational thought process are you employing?
The article says:
I wrote:
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Sorry, I fail to see any rational inconsistency.
You must have your cognitive blinkers on.
"Sorry, I fail to see any rational inconsistency"
I know, that's why I gave you guidance. You don't have much experience with rational thought and it shows. Propagandists aren't known for their logic, just their hype.
BTW..which workers paradise do you call home? And why do I think you either won't say or will lie about it ..also a hallmark of propagandists.
One day we will find out there exists or existed a cadre of obama propagandists, directed by a cut out for the White House who were used for the express purpose of perpetuating obamas hatred of the US. Disinformation channeled by script readers/writers who haunt the media and the Internet ..it would fit the Alinsky model to a T and serve the socialist agenda. So just read the script and write what they tell you to write. You'll do just fine since there's a darn good chance obama will get a second term. I mean lets face it he's already got the vote of tens of thousands of dead people locked up.....and the brain dead.
"I mean lets face it he's already got the vote of tens of thousands of dead people locked up.....and the brain dead"
Great stuff.
yeah I know
Ok I gotta go get a Coke and take the Porsche out for a spin .... with the top down. What a nice night but I have to tell ya that I think I'm gonna have to have the Porsche shipped to the Montana property cause it's too far to drive from Florida to Montana. Next week before winter sets in up there. Do some horseback riding and skeet shooting. It's usually beautiful there this time of year but I'll get back to the SunShine state to do winter.
Life is good.
yeah it is ... what did you do with the Donzi?
Still got it. Having the motor tweaked gett'n ready to do some island hopping near St.Kitts and the surrounds.
Sounds great.
Duh .. yeah it is good.
Lucky fella..
hell no ...just smart and talented.
so what
Well when ya got money,smarts, and talent the babes just gravitate to you. It helps that I'm also blessed with a great wit and good looks.
Lucky fool
Guilty.
In my post immediately below this one I asked you what rational thought process were you employing. Then I thought.."Well this person isn't going to have a clue about what you're asking"
So allow me to tee it up for you. This ain't the entire body of thought on thought but it may help you get started in your own research.
Lets begin with Aristotle.
The three classic laws of thought are attributed to Aristotle and were foundational in scholastic logic. They are:
This is not a timed event but good luck formulating your thinking.
This may also help you.
The laws of thought can be most intelligibly expressed thus:
1.Everything that is, exists.
2.Nothing can simultaneously be and not be.
3.Each and every thing either is or is not.
4.Of everything that is, it can be found why it is.
There would then have to be added only the fact that once for all in logic the question is about what is thought and hence about concepts and not about real things.
— Schopenhauer, Manuscript Remains, Vol. 4, "Pandectae II," §163
Well, OK sweetie, your enthusiast fascination for ostentatious philosophical examinations is OK, if that's what you really want to do honey.
Does look a wee bit like a spineless avoidance of frank and open review of present-day issues that maybe you have a problem facing up to and processing. Fortunately I don't live in a police-state that summarily declares honest, sane and forthright people 'insane' and irrational, and then locks them up without cause, justification or review:
Susan Lindauer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMwP0cmfKuE
Or maybe it's just that some lying minor CIA toss-pot didn't want to hear what she had to say about truthful things, that should certainly have been discussed openly and fully at the time, and could have prevented a criminal and unjust war that murdered hundreds of thousands, but was instead declared to have a dodgy thought-process, sectioned and basically sent into an internal exile.
Now why is your not being a US citizen come as no surprise.
It's pretty common knowledge I'm Australian, never tried to hide that, but someone who wasn't a mere zh noob would probably know that, there's a lot of us in here.
Given the madness of Washington politics that pervades the MSM like some snot-nose kid pissing in the pool, and given US foreign policy holds the world hostage to Washington's banal insanity and plethora of unpunished criminal acts, I kinda feel it's my right and duty to go ahead and kick the shit out the Washington farce. I'm not the slightest bit partisan about it though.
I see you're making a claim I don't write my own posts :rolls eyes: (which is mildly flattering really). But you know this how?
And here you were, pretending to be some great exponent of logic and rationality, just a few comments back? But of course, you're full of shit. Tossers like you come and go from zh like unwanted smelly farts drifting past on the wind.
You're dealing with an independent thinker ... so ... you're completely out-classed. :D
Well, an Aussie..that explains it.
I gotta tell ya that back in the 70's it was great fun overthrowing your socialist leader, Gough Whitlam.
Australia is OK. As a member of the Todd River Yacht Club I enjoyed many a good time in Alice Springs.
But the Whitlam deal was really a sweet piece of work.
yeah, life is good.
Yeah, well, let's face it, you were visiting the Todd river bed for some other purpose, werentcha?
Suppose you had to buy a carton from the Gap Hotel to get yer end away, eh?
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2009/07/23/2633383.htm
Some observations of Aussies.
and if you drive down under you're on the wrong side of the road..and get this..say you're driving on a two lane main artery and see a car up ahead trying to pull out on to the main artery ....well YOU have to yield to them ..thats right..you're riding along at 60mph and some sheep rancher is attempting to access the highway..YOU MUST COME TO A STOP IF THAT
S WHATS NEEDED ...now how fucked up is that...plenty kimosabe
Soooo ... ... shoot the messenger much?
No, just lighting up a dupe propagandist .... don't cop out on your own enthusiasm. I'm not the one who wrote your post.
Heck no, simply lighting up a duped propagandist. You were so enthuisiastic in support of the Iranians veracity .your condemnation of the US you weren't just a messenger.
Take responsibility for your own post. I didn't write it.
The post is called, "A World on the Verge of War?".
You have such great respect and concern for the issue, you're happy to carry on like that.
Troll, you are dismissed.
You've got your head so far up your ass you think you can see sunshine. Your technique is to try and establish yourself as some kind of authority - in this case you try to project yourself as an intellectual, and as successful - you also manage to come off as arrogant and narccisstic.
Then instead of dealing directly with the post and the observation - you try and deflect the issue into a philosophical analysis of rationality and its applications. In this way you hope to discredit the poster by proving he doesn't have a degree in philosophy, and therefore cannot be expected to be able to make observations and draw conclusions because he isn't qualified.
Sorry - I'm affraid being a tard is no barrier to being a smarmy smart ass troll these days, which is obvious on quick inspection of your ambiguous posts, where you take all day to try and make your .. pointless.
The original post does not fail any rational critique. Regardless of whether the Iranian official believes what he says, regardless of whether he means it - what he said is 'these deaths were not justified' - and in the context of the evidence, where the original poster made that OBSERVATION - that constitutes a rational and sane response by the Iranian official in question, and being a public statement implies a rational and sane regime.
The context in which this observation is made, is one of propaganda that implies that Iran and its regime are crazy, imbalanced and not empathic to global norms.
Your blah blah blah - spout some crap about rational thought, project yourself as an authority and then try to deflect the issue away from the evidence as presented is a failure - as is your brain, a complete failure.
yadda,yadda,yadda ...
I know it's tough on many of you folks to have to deal with an intellectual, but if you try really hard you may be able to keep up. Good luck.
Life is good.
You are a psuedo intellectual, you can remember what you read, quote it - but you obviously have no idea what it all means.
Also, even if I had read Plato and Aristotle, I don't need to quote them to project an image of myself, I'm sure their lessons are easily applied in context.
However, since you like quoting so much, here is one (paraphrased) that you might benefit from;
'If I know one thing, its that I know nothing - and I barely know that.' - Socrates
Additionally, if you really want to take on the laws of thought I introduced you to then you'll need to study Aristotle and the others I cited. I studied them, still do, but it's highly doubtful that you have the capacity to argue with the conclusions of those intellectuals. If you believe you're smarter than Aristotle then more power to your ego. I know I'm not. That’s why I studied them.
But go for it, it should be funny as all get out. Somehow I don't think Aristotle or the others are in any jeopardy from your meager intellect.
I can't remember... where did Her Hillaryness get her education in Foreign Affairs ? Georgetown? Harvard?
Did she work for State at one time?
Surely she is not just a political hack? A Cabinet position of this magnitude should go to someone with experience.
She's in there because Obama had to negate her politically for the 2012 nominations. So he offers her the Sec of Statism job, she hesitated, didn't want to take it, so he flattered and fluffed her ego and the vital contribution she would make to his team, in the media. And she decided maybe it was the best offer she could get and felt compelled to take it. What was she going to say? She had already bragged during the 2008 nominations race that she was the iron lady of the Oval Office, ready to take that 3AM phone call, when it was all on the line, etc. So she couldn't climb back down from all that BS.
And Obama made it so that if she said no, she would probably be dead meat in 2012 as a result. She was meant to fail in the job, just not quite so badly. Either way, she'll go after the election. In the end, Obama doesn't have a real birth certificate, so he's been winging-it the whole time. Naturally, the results are horrible.
Goddamn I wish aliens would abduct me.
I'd glady submit to an anal probe or two to get the fuck away from this planet.
I'm finding it mysterious all the anti-American protests in the Arab world suddenly coincide with an urgency to attack Iran! Israel does not mention the film at all. Do I smell a Kosher rat here?!?
The tear gas used in China were probably made in the US (Pennsylvania) where excellent tear gas are made.
Gee, everything is spinning out of control.
I'm confident Dick O'Bama is reading his intel reports, however.
I knew September was going to be one crazy month.
http://youtu.be/n7zLHbWmaaA
"This is like taking PCP and watching Fellini upside down hanging from a meathook while Nero plays "It's A Small World" with the bride of Chucky singing back ups."
Needless to say, nobody could possibly foresee war as the outcome to the global depression ver 2.0: certainly not the Princeton historian who will be, more than anyone else, responsible for it.
One person might have seen all this coming...
Mat 24:6-8 KJV 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
I hope we don't go to war. Despite having the most sophisticated equipment and training and the biggest budget, we can't seem to beat anybody.
OBAMATIME! You didn't build this ... hoho ho ... hoho hoho ho ... You didn't build this!
Well, it would seem that the NWO's ceremonies at this years Olympics have indeed set the stage for the bloodletting that the elite so desire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY63wF4K2fk
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry6jLq6UkUk&feature=watch_response
Paranoia is just acute awareness.
http://www.takeourworldback.com/911whodunit.htm
http://www.juancole.com/2012/09/top-myths-about-irans-nuclear-enrichment-program.html
http://www.juancole.com/2012/09/netanyahu-in-1992-iran-close-to-having-nuclear-bomb.html
here is the gambit. nutandyahoo has decided to go all in. he knows if he waits until after the election that oabama now looks assured of winning obama has no reason to follow israel into iran. nut will attack before the election(his election) to force obama's hand into supporting the war. it will be set off by a false flag attack upon some usa asset(mossad loves symbols so it could be the enterprise or the statue of liberty or anything in between). the thinking is obama will have to support israel in order to win the election.
patraeus and dempsey are now both onboard the anti israel train which leads one to believe the usa military, particularly the navy, is in the middle east to protect the flow of oil, not israel. if the usa does not come to the aid of israel, israel will unleash it's nuclear arsenal on everyone they feel like is not helping them(samson option) but the world will be rid of israel in the end.
the embassy demonstrations and the killing of the ambassador are just the warmup for the main attraction for the neocons. buy your popcorn now while the line is short.
if obama was smart he would take nutandyahoo out or, just maybe, the whole thing is meant to have a justifiable reason to take israel out.