The US Is Not "One Nation" - And It Never Was

Authored by Ryan McMaken via The Mises Institute,

Patrick Buchanan is an informative and interesting writer. On foreign policy, especially, he's long been one of the most reasonable voices among high-level American pundits.

When it comes to cultural matters, however, Buchanan has long held to a peculiar and empirically questionable version of American history in which the United States was once a mono-culture in which everyone was once happily united by "a common religion," a "common language," and a "common culture."

Now, he's at it again with his most recent column in which he correctly points out that the United States is culturally fractured, and speculates as to whether or not Thomas Jefferson's call to "dissolve political bands" in the Declaration of Independence might be sound advice today.

Buchanan is correct in noting that the US is culturally divided today.

But, he appears to have a selective view of history when he contends there was a time when this was not so. If there ever was such a period, it's unclear as to when exactly it was. 

Buchanan can't be referring to the mid-19th century when Northern states and Southern states were becoming increasingly hostile toward each other. Many of these differences flared up over slavery, but larger cultural differences were there too, exemplified by a divide between agrarian and industrialized culture, and the hierarchical South versus the more populist North. The result was a civil war that killed more than 2 percent of the population. It was a literal bloodbath. 

Was that version of the United States culturally united?

Nor can Buchanan possibly be referring to the US of the so-called Gilded Age. After all, during this period, the US was flooded with immigrants from a wide variety of backgrounds, 

Historian Jon Grinspan notes:

American life transformed more radically during the 19th century than it ever had before. Between the 1830s and 1900, America's population quintupled ... at least 18 million immigrants arrived from Europe, more people than had lived in all of America in 1830.

This hardly led to a period of religious or linguistic unity. 

Certainly Catholics of the 19th century in the United States — who were commonly denounced as being non-Christians by the majority Protestants — would be at a loss if asked to describe the way the United States was united by a common religion. 

This alleged unity would be news to the Catholics whose schools were being closed by government edict — as happened in Oregon where the state government deliberately outlawed private schools in the hope of eradicating the Catholic education system. This unity was certainly absent for the Catholics who were victims in the Know-Nothing riots in Philadelphia in 1844. 

The Mormons may have fared even worse, and fled to the wilds of Utah. Even there they couldn't avoid the iron fist of the federal government. When disagreements flared over polygamy and territorial representation, James Buchanan sent 2,500 troops to Utah in 1857 as part of a shooting war with Mormons to force them into better compliance with federal law. 

Nor were the foreign languages of immigrants immediately stamped out as many imagine in their nostalgia. Well into the 20th century, German continued to be a widely-spoken language, with Americans of German descent demanding their own German-language schools and government documents printed in German. Many Germans actively sought to avoid cultural integration with others by demanding more taxpayer-funded German-language-only schools.

According to historian Willi Paul Adams:

[S]ome states mandated English as the exclusive language of instruction in the public schools, while Pennsylvania and Ohio in 1839 were first in allowing German as an official alternative, even requiring it on parental demand. Some public and many private parochial schools taught exclusively in German throughout many decades, mostly in rural areas.

Nor was the German lobby confined to these two states. The original Colorado constitution, for example, mandates that all new laws be distributed in German, Spanish, and English, so as to cater to speakers the three most common languages in the area. 

According to the census bureau, there were more than two-million German-speaking foreign-born United States residents in 1920, which means more than 2 percent of the population was speaking German. If the same proportions held up today, there'd be more than six million foreign-born German speakers in the US. Moreover, Germans weren't even the largest foreign language group at the time. There were even more foreign-born speakers of "Slavic languages" including Russian, Czech, and Polish. Taken all together — out of a population of 100 million — there were more than ten million foreign-born Americans with a "mother tongue" other than English in 1920. It is likely that many of these people also knew and spoke English — some of the time. But the reality hardly paints a picture of linguistic and cultural unity as imagined by Buchanan. 

And then, of course, there is the Spanish-speaking population. As noted above, the State of Colorado was tri-lingual from the day it became a state. And then there is New Mexico where Spanish speakers prior to statehood comprised at least half the state's population. Not surprisingly, the New Mexico constitution has always stipulated that the Spanish language enjoys special status, and that no citizen of the state may be denied any state services or rights based on being only able to speak Spanish. 

Much of this linguistic diversity was a legacy of the Mexican War in which the US annexed vast territories that included many Spanish speakers. Generally forgotten today is the fact that the Mexican border was once located a mere 100 miles south of Denver along the Arkansas River. The special status granted Spanish in the 19th century in these regions was not a result of an influx of new immigrants. It was the result of a linguistic reality imposed on the population of the American Southwest by an American war of conquest.

We might also mention ongoing ethnic tensions caused by the war, such as those caused by the notorious Land Act of 1851 which robbed the Californios of their property. And then there were decades of anti-Mexican policies in southern Texas that disenfranchised the Spanish-speaking minority there. In some cases, this led to outright violent rebellion as with Juan Cortina and his guerrilla fighters.  

So, is the cultural disunity in the United States something novel and unprecedented as Buchanan imagines? It's unlikely. 

Any theory about unity in American history that just breezes over the American Civil War is questionable at best, and English is likely more widespread today than at any point in the last 150 years thanks to the dominance of American popular culture. 

Nevertheless, Buchanan has a point. 

There are very real divides in the US today, especially between the religious and the anti-religious, between the urban residents and suburbanites, and between leftists and conservatives. Recent data even suggests that communities are now segregating themselves along ideological lines.

So what is the answer? 

As is so often the case, the answer simply lies in decentralization. As Buchanan seems to suggest, now may be the time to "dissolve the political bands which have connected" Californians with Texans and Vermonters with Indianans. 

After all, as Buchanan notes, if unity were put up to a vote, would the confederation we call 'the United States" even survive? 

Could the Constitution, as currently interpreted, win the approval of two-thirds of our citizens and three-fourth of our states, if it were not already the supreme law of the land? How would a national referendum on the Constitution turn out, when many Americans are already seeking a new constitutional convention?

The answers to these questions are not obviously "yes." 

Buchanan also correctly points out that the US does not qualify as "a nation" - at least not according to the romantic definition he uses. Buchanan quotes the Frenchman Ernest Renan who identifies at least two criteria for status as a nation: "One is the possession in common of a rich legacy of memories; the other is present consent, the desire to live together, the desire to continue to invest in the heritage that we have jointly received."

Buchanan suggests this description no longer applies to the US. He's half right. It doesn't apply to the US today. But unless we studiously ignore and gloss over the enduring religious, linguistic, cultural, and ideological differences that have always existed, we must admit it never really applied to the United States at all. 



J S Bach espirit Fri, 07/07/2017 - 22:57 Permalink

The United States definitely WAS a true nation at one time.  It was an amalgamation nation... a nation of like-minded and blooded white European Christians who may have varied a bit in their cuisines, dress and mannerisms, but were strongly united in their faith and common continental heritage.  Common holidays, common dreams and common love for this land-of-the-free were great unifying factors.  The only "benefits" these original immigrants expected were the protection of the Bill of Rights... NOT freebies in the form of welfare and Medicare handouts.Christmas, Easter, Washington's Birthday, Columbus Day... were all cherished days.  Today, we have MLK Day, Kwanzaa, Ramadan, Purim, and other "celebrations" completely alien to those of America's founding stock.  This disintegration was planned... purposefully enacted to destroy and steal this nation.  However, there is still time and population enough to reclaim it... IF we have the will to do so.

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BLOTTO J S Bach Fri, 07/07/2017 - 23:00 Permalink

But the 1st President was a Mason...and their 'god' and whom they worship is Lucifer.
So fuck Hiram Abiff and all those mason fags and their satanic pedophile god - they are no friends of mine.

And therefore, wasnt this great nation not set for destruction right from the start? The shit we are in was a drip by drip process, this didnt happen over night.

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All Risk No Reward luky luke (not verified) Sat, 07/08/2017 - 03:54 Permalink

No, America is a vassal debt-money plantation controlled by Debt-Money Monopolists.

Yes, Debt-Money Monopolists promote Zionism, amongst other things, but very few Zionists are Debt-Money Monopolists.

It is kind of like calling the perpetrators of all serial killings "white people."

Not very accurate, is it?

And why is Mises talking about the Constitution like it has any legitimacy in the world's largest empire system - and by orders of magnitude?

We live in a Debt-Money Monopolist Mega-Corporate Fascist Empire.

For the simpler minded, call it a Moneyarchy.

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Derezzed All Risk No Reward Sat, 07/08/2017 - 13:39 Permalink

The US is not « a » nation, never was. Renan was right, so was Tocqueville, read them.A nation that is based on self-interest and greed, is not a nation, never has been.A nation is based on its history, how can the US have one when it was born AGAINST history ?A nation is based on the identity of its people, there is no american identity, where is the american character and soul ? The US rightfully fought 2 wars : the war of independance, and the secession war (on the South side), and it was never about slavery, as « they » would like you to believe, it was about 2 opposite ways of seeing things (industry vs agriculture, steel vs land, immigration vs roots, decentralized freedom vs central federalism, etc etc)I will quote an important piece of that speech from Lincoln in Springfield, Illinois on January 27, 1838« At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide. »There lies the destiny of the US of A.

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ich1baN BLOTTO Fri, 07/07/2017 - 23:43 Permalink

George Washington was only an "honorary" Freemason... he also was a mason before the Albert Pike era went into full effect.... Masons weren't about the evil creation until Albert Pike came along and made it cool to have gay orgy's while on drugs in the mountains for weeks at a time and pushed homosexuality to a new level even back then.... There, I educated you on someone who was a true man and it was free.

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Jubal Early (not verified) Koba the Dread Sat, 07/08/2017 - 03:09 Permalink

Having lived in various suburbs and small towns across the western US and western Europe (I hate crowded, noisy and impersonal cities), I can say that there is a big difference between them.  In the US although a small town might be clearly majority white, even the whites are split into many different nationalities and religions and there would likely be a strong Latino component in as well.  In Europe that town likely has one religion with a couple of churches.  The families are all of the same nationality, the strongest family names will have predominated with their names on multiple businesses.  The foundation is strong families, and the struture crosses generations and imbibes the entire town with shared roots and a shared destiny. In the US, when the wetbacks or dindu's invade and take over, you merely pack up and move to the another town not quite so far down the toilet drain.  In Europe, in the towns and villages, the people are more like to stand their ground and fight.  This is one reason I have cast my lot here.Yesterday was the last day of school and my Grandson's kindergarten.  The town puts on a big show with the kids in their traditional clothing and the girls all adorned with flowers.  What surprised me was when the youth militia showed up marching in uniform and carrying old bolt action WWII rifles.  Then they fired the old muzzle loading cannon... 

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Practical Cogitator Koba the Dread Sat, 07/08/2017 - 05:16 Permalink

A good deal of the 'history' that's been written is 'fake history' fed by 'fake news'.  Certainly much of the 'history' about the War of Northern Aggression, aka the 'Civil War'.  That's where Lincoln single-handedly trashed the fundamental freedom embodied by the first two sentences of the Declaration of Independence, i.e., the right to secede.  I think this is where much of today's 'rot' began.Eliminating that basic natural human right mortally wounds liberty over the longer haul. This pretty much describes what's been happening to the once great and mighty USofA ever since 12 April 1861.I’ve re-read my handy pocket US Constitution, which for obvious reasons, includes a reproduction of Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence.  I’m yet again enthralled by the first words Jefferson recorded on America’s Birth Certificate.  That document is the very first proclamation of basic law, the most important document of important American documents, to wit [bold/italics highlights are mine]: WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.WE hold these Truths to be Self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.At the threshold, Thomas Jefferson's Declaration of Independence and the Founding Fathers who voted for that august document shouted that these initial principles are the most important threshold principles upon which the new republic would be founded.  Every law and every government action from that 4 July 1776 moment forward had to be filtered through these principles.Fast forward 87 years.  In his 19 November 1863 Gettysburg Address, Lincoln defined his war of aggression.  Lincoln's war began 12 April 1861 when he reprimanded South Carolina by re-provisioning Fort Sumter in Charleston harbor - redefining that war at Gettysburg as a ‘rededication to the egalitarian ideals of the Declaration of Independence’.  South Carolina had led the March 1861 secession declaration of 7 states from the Union, much as the Founding Fathers had done on 4 July 1776.Such hypocrisy from the man who suspended the writ of habeas corpus in some areas as early as 27 April 1861, and throughout the nation on 24 September 1862, and made over 13,000 arbitrary arrests, Constitutional principles be damned!A threshold error screams out when comparing these two important milestones. Threshold errors are typically the most serious variety of error, given their effect on all subsequent people and events:   ·         Did Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence, America’s Birth Certificate, make a threshold error by defining the right of secession to be an unalienable Natural God-given Human Right?  ·         Or, did Abraham Lincoln commit a threshold error by rejecting the March 1861 secession and starting the War of Northern Aggression, thereby denying all Americans residing in those 7 states of what Thomas Jefferson sanctified as their unalienable Natural God-given Human Right to secede?Jefferson and Lincoln cannot both be right.  One must select. IMHO, the rights sanctified in America’s Birth Certificate define the limits of all other government actions.  That renders Lincoln a major villain for trashing the single most important of our unalienable Natural God-given Human Rights. Ever since, this brand of transgression has become more the rule than the exception, with TPTB endlessly repeating false narratives to justify Lincoln’s war, as well as all their many subsequent unconstitutional power grabs.  The consensus of our Founding Fathers, as I am certain everyone agrees, was to construct a series of 'checks and balances' mechanisms that would checkmate 'power' from becoming all-encompassing corrupt 'absolute power'.  Hence, their clear separation of powers between the states, the federal government, the Congress, the Senate, the Courts, and the Executive.Sadly, in this the Founders' efforts ultimately failed, as the historical facts itemized below by International Man conclusively prove.   Those efforts failed because they did not anticipate that the pillar upon which their checks and balances scheme rested - the right to secede - would be so summarily eliminated by men like Abraham Lincoln.  By defining that pillar in the first two sentences of his Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson intended to guarantee an absolute unalienable God-granted right of every human being within the new America to opt out - to secede from the union should that union somehow no longer represent their fundamental desire for life, liberty and happiness.  In other words, this right to secession was the Founding Fathers' ultimate check and balance pillar guarding against accumulation of the unfettered power that is destroying the country today.  Once Lincoln felled this critically important pillar, he doomed all the other checks and balances mechanisms to ultimate failure.When Lincoln eliminated that most basic of fundamental human rights of association, he critically crippled the checks and balances foundation upon which the Founders constructed our august country.  That's why we are in the sad situation we are at today...As the direct result of this blasphemy, the power structure in Washington D.C. ultimately tacked on all manner of most destructive and mostly unconstitutional devices.  Implicit in this first mechanism is the second most effective mechanism of checks and balances – state’s rights, as further embodied by the 10th Amendment.  The kiss of death for this second checks and balances mechanism occurred in 1913.  That's when the 17th Amendment stripped state assemblies of their power to elect US Senators.  This sealed the death of state’s rights and state power as embodied by the 10th Amendment. Interestingly, there was a major, major federal power grab in 1913.  The 17th Amendment passed at the same time the Federal Reserve was created and a first-ever Federal Income Tax was enacted.   Since the passage of the 17th Amendment, the States have methodically become beggars, more or less reaching for whatever baksheesh their Federale masters have on offer.Sprinkle in all those completely absurd Supreme Court cases holding that the 'Commerce Clause' allows Washington D.C. to control virtually anything it fancies.  Good God!!!  How utterly pathetic were all those Justices...So it is that our country is no longer 'free'.  On the very last page of my pocket Constitution, a Benjamin Franklin quote pegs the core issue which haunted the country in 1861 and haunts us still:At the conclusion of the Constitutional Convention, Franklin was asked, “What have you wrought?”  To which he replied, “…a Republic, if you can keep it.”Benjamin Franklin warned us all, but too few listened.I think the Collective Corruption rot that is now malignant throughout the American government, economy, and society really began that day on 12 April 1861.The day Lincoln recast the single most fundamental Natural God-given Human Right sanctified by the first two sentences of the Declaration of Independence is the day Lincoln effectively trashed the basic principles upon which the country was founded.  That's the day Abraham Lincoln mortally wounded the first Amendment, alongside the remaining 9 Amendments of the American Bill of Rights, and left a gaping hole in pretty much everything else the US Constitution was supposed to guarantee.As International Man points out, anyone paying the slightest attention to our modern-day welfare/warfare state is witnessing Lincoln's threshold mistake extract its ugly tolls:

  • Confiscatory taxes at all levels.
  • The gutting of the Bill of Rights through the so-called Patriot Act, the National Defense Authorization Act, secret courts, executive orders, and indefinite detention.
  • The need to comply with an ever-growing stack of regulations, edicts, and laws.
  • The militarization of the police.
  • Use of the IRS as a political weapon.
  • Assassination of US citizens without due process.
  • Indirect capital controls through FATCA.
  • Warrantless NSA spying.
  • Worldwide perpetual warfare with an undefined enemy.
  • Never-ending money printing and destructive “stimulus” efforts.
  • Ever expanding welfare programs.
  • Domestic use of drones.
  • Stealth taxation by inflation and a fiat monetary system.

This is just a short synopsis of the current state of affairs, and is far from exhaustive.  Years ago, American kids used to say, "Hey, it's a free country." You don't hear that much anymore.  Because it is no longer a free country.We have all lost Benjamin Franklin’s Republic – a process that began on 12 April 1861. And almost no one graduating from the American public school system has any idea – nowhere will these fundamental facts and arguments be found in any public school curriculum.I’m reminded of Scott ‘Dilbert’ Adams’ thesis that the human brain is really a library of video narratives, as versus a database of actual facts and figures. When humans encounter an issue, we sort to the most relevant video narrative for context and help.  That’s why repetition is the name of the MSM manufactured consent propaganda game. How many more times will we have to hear the Russia-hacked-the-election narrative before most mortals accept it as truth, ever bit as much as they accept that Neil Armstrong somehow slipped through the Van Allen Radiation Belts and landed on the moon in 1969. Or that the World Trade Center collapsed into tons of dust from a fire that was not hot enough to melt steel.Or that war with Iraq was necessary to eliminate Sadaam Hussein’s WMD. Or that we did not orchestrate the toppling of a democratically elected government in Ukraine?And on and on and on.  When will the lies stop? Bottom-line, can we ever expect that Cognitive dissonance will cease extracting such horrible and costly tolls?

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Practical Cogitator CEOoftheSOFA Sun, 07/09/2017 - 00:18 Permalink

Thanks SOFA.  I think this is a most important issue, one that is at the root of all that has gone so terribly wrong with the USofA.  Stripping away the natural God-given human right to secede is like condemning the population to a gulag with no recourse.  All the other Constitutional checks and balances eventually crumble away as a result.  Hard to accept that this was allowed to happen.

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Cloud9.5 Koba the Dread Sat, 07/08/2017 - 07:04 Permalink

Albert Pike was a charismatic self promotor and writer who happened to be a member of the Independent Order of the Odd Fellows, the Know Nothing Party and the Free Masons.  He took it upon himself to embellish a simple fraternal order with innuendo and mysticism in order to further his own personal aggrandizement.  He titillated his readers with suggestions of orgies, pedophilia and child sacrifice. The Scottish Rite was and is an appendant body of Free Masonry that was rudimentary at best when Pike became a Mason. Pike seized the opportunity, claiming esoteric wisdom, to embellish the rituals of the Rite with his own imaginings.  In the process, he promoted himself and his writings.  I am told that the Order of the Scottish Rite requires that its members be Master Masons.  Therefore, all members of the Scottish Rite are Master Masons.  On the other hand, all Master Masons are not members of the Scottish Rite.  Far from it, most Masons are simply Masons.  Ours is predominantly a Christian organization.  We take our vows on the King James Bible and we hold with its teachings.  I am not a Shriner and make no pretense of having knowledge of their rituals or inner workings.  Any information I would provide you on the Scottish Rite and the York Rite would simply be a product of my own imaginings and would put me on the same page as Pike.To judge the Blue Lodges on the writings of a self promotor like Albert Pike is an injustice to all Masons.  Some do embrace his fantastical narrative but most do not. George Washington was a Master Mason as were a significant number of his officers and men.  The solemn oaths taken by the brotherhood kept the core of his army together at Valley Forge.  The Masonic position that all members are equal was and is a corner stone of the Republic.

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MalteseFalcon J S Bach Sat, 07/08/2017 - 06:17 Permalink

Perhaps Pat is referring to the era from the early 1920s to 1965.The period of America's greatest growth.The era where America assumed the mantle of "leader of the free world" by prevailing in WWII.This was an era where America shut down immigration and concentrated on unity.In this America people were either white or black, spoke English, practiced or at least tolerated Christianity and were taught the constitution in school.The state was more decentralized and corporations were far less powerful.The media was highly concentrated, and it was one well-springs of problems to come.

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ljseals J S Bach Sat, 07/08/2017 - 06:26 Permalink

Many people believe that the United States is a Christian nation but that is not the truth. This is a deception of the devil and in fact, there is no "deep state" as the state itself is the mafia. Please also be aware that many websites are mere "honeypots," and your comments can be traced back to you by ip address thus confirming your identity. I am writing a "free" book about my experience with the "government" and the "mafia." The book is titled, "The Government, the Mafia, and Greyhound Bus Lines."You may view the website at https://lewisseals.comThrough my experience with the mafia, they will attempt to kill you if you post things that they do not like on a public forum. Whether it is talking about "freemasonry" or a member of "freemasonry" please note, that if you are giving out information that they deem credible then they will have a problem with you.The Lord is my protector, therefore, I am not worried. Freemasonry is interconnected with the government and there are many members in it so if they have a problem with you, they may try to blackball your government complaints,  try to set you up to lose your job, try to commit you to a mental institution, or even try to murder you.Seemingly, the people who are in it fear for their own life so they blindly follow the directions of a "higher ranking member." I will detail exactly what the "mafia" has tried to accomplish in my book and I am giving it out free to be transparent and honest. My latest blog asks is "murder" Christian and how we perceive a lie. It can be read here: have done a lot of evil things in my life, we all have, my goal is not to out anyone or be a "truther" because only God is Truth but they have persisted in their attacks against me. Please bookmark my site as I will detail how doctors, judges, lawyers, police officers, the military, presidents, government agencies, and many government officials are in the "mafia." Freemasonry seemingly is the "government's secret police force." God bless you!Lewis Seals@lewissealspub

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doctor10 RafterManFMJ Sat, 07/08/2017 - 02:10 Permalink

ummm...that's why we have states...power was originally intended to lie with them-with a very SMALL central, federal government, essentially refereeing the Bill of Rights and national defense.

We are all about to become victims of centralized complexity
when it all inevitably recursively detonates.

Centralized control creates interweaving dependencies that deprive society of viable alternate, pressure relieving pathways

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earleflorida RafterManFMJ Sat, 07/08/2017 - 12:41 Permalink

the founding fathers are (were) way ahead of you kind sir?they were also aware of the hypocracy, the ethnic, the obtuse [?] cultural comingling... as to originally convince americans (the non-landowners/ merchants) that this revolution was a good deal for them.... as in the new masters no worse than the old master!but[t] they did just that through diversity and trust in their fellow man that america could somehow overcome this fledgling nations growing pains. we were a country of immigrants and not tolerable of foreign sub-cultures not familiar with the anglo-saxon british.but it all came together with fast and deliberate land was an opportunist time for america with spain, france and england all fighting each other or taking care of business in other colonies, without wasting resources thousands of miles away by ship, in an underdeveloped continent that had nothing more than a limited market with little trade commerce.of course the founders played it safe and waited til the clock struck 'do it or die tyme' as the english were now starting a real colonialization once the wars were over. France wised us up on this strategy via the Louisiana Purchase being monumental regarding geography north/south central america, but the big anchilada was gold in califarnia which made the country whole.  East to West--- West to East transit and the the Oregon , the Great Lakes Territory (Michigan, Illinois, and Indiana) and all of the Ohio Territory, throwing in Missisippii/ Orleans Territory (man... Spain really was a god send being they were fed up with indigenous scoundrels that couldn't be tamed?) Florida ..., but it was really Texas and California that brought it all together where the immigration, integration and cultural marriage adaptation manifested so miraculously?all in all i liked your read, but...[?] no country ever has been nothing moar than a giant dysfuctional melting pot of discontent,.. but[t] its a good [?] discontent that is [?]pragmatic/pracitical[?] and tolerable to others that know a good thing from a BS story promising riches that only the ignorant would buy into!?!   Note:  And, ignorance was one thing not imported with the influx of immigrants into young america. 

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Tallest Skil Fri, 07/07/2017 - 21:31 Permalink

Blah blah blah, retarded European who knows nothing about America's political system. Blah blah blah, European Union propaganda. We get it. But we in America also know that Balkanization is treason and won't fucking happen.

Bigly Fri, 07/07/2017 - 21:45 Permalink

I think the only state that can actually potentially successfully breakaway is TX.Land, ports and IT IS ON ITS OWN POWER GRID.

Flankspeed60 Bigly Sat, 07/08/2017 - 02:15 Permalink

Not so, Tennessee is home to TVA. We knock a few feds in the heads and we own the largest grid in the country. Mary J is the largest cash crop in the state, and we have whiskey stills legal and otherwise all over the place. We'll cut Memphis loose and give it to Arkansas, cut a deal with Alabama for a right-of-way to the Gulf, and let freedom ring! Ya'll come now, heah?

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shovelhead Fri, 07/07/2017 - 21:47 Permalink

What a nice strawman you built just to knock down.You're trying to tell me that an astute observer of the human condition like Pat Buchanan suddenly rejects historical reality in favor of your characterization of his belief that "the United States was once a mono-culture in which everyone was once happily united by "a common religion," a "common language," and a "common culture." ?Fine, have your say, but do so without using the disingenuousness of using Buchanan as an imaginary counterfoil to your argument.

put a kettle on Fri, 07/07/2017 - 21:47 Permalink

I can anecdotally attest to the gravity of the urban/rural divide; Trump won the election and many of my white female coworkers in New York City saw themselves as victims. Trump won the election and many of my white female relatives back home in North Carolina saw themselves as victors.

rejected Fri, 07/07/2017 - 21:52 Permalink

Well, he's right about one thing.... It's just a matter of time before the US breaks up.The only commonality we SEEM to have is a hatred for the Constitution and each other.

Spitball rejected Fri, 07/07/2017 - 22:51 Permalink

Wrong, Leftism will implode. It already is. Do you really think the people of Europe believe in what's taking place there?You may hate the constitution, I don't.This country has been the leader in so many ways you can't count them all.Look around you. Pay attention to your everyday life. Millions in this world would love an opportunity to come to this great place we take for granted. The left would love for you to believe we are the problem. No, we are the solution.Look at the lefty George Cloony. He's moving back to the US bacause he's worried about his safety.Doesn't that tell it all!

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MaxThrust Fri, 07/07/2017 - 22:03 Permalink

I cannot think of any other country (which is not at war with itself) that is more divided than the USAHuricane Katrina showed the world and most Americans the nature of a US society when the supporting services of that society breakdown.The movie V for vendetta, portrayed an America that was in civil war. A scenario that is all too possible.

Spitball MaxThrust Fri, 07/07/2017 - 22:29 Permalink

That's a myth. Only a samll percentage of the population is hard left wing, the majority is center, right. Don't let the media tell you otherwise. The United States of America is the greatest country on the planet. People aren't leaving other countries around the world because we suck.The lefties had a slick talking salesman in Odumbo, but his reign is over. He's been exposed, the corrupt media"s been exposed. Trump was a necessary pill to kill off the left, and strip it for what it is, FAIlURE.The United States is the best place to be. Enjoy it to the fullest while your here, cause it may not last forever.

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