Tucker Carlson Asks the Question: Will the Left Refute America’s Forefathers Because They Owned Slaves?

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I cannot see how the left cannot call for George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and others to be removed from the public square, libraries, museums, universities and our currency. Since the left is out to get all racists, feverishly on the lookout for nazis and alt-right retards, ripping down statues of confederates, why not go to the source of all this racism, eh? America's forefathers. 41 out of 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence owned slaves. Therefore, and using the same logic we're applying to the white supremacists in the streets demanding, err, nothing, we must reject the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and America, basically. The country is over. Tucker Carlson lays it out perfectly. I'd like to hear from any left wingers who disagree with my train of thought and explain to me why we should revere Thomas Jefferson.

Naturally, Bill Kristol attacked Tucker for his cogent analysis. Brit Hume came to his defense.


NOTE: Earlier today, the President had it out with the media over this very topic. Here is the full showdown.


nmewn Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:16 Permalink

"While I was at the hotel to—day, an elderly gentleman called upon me to know whether I was really in favor of producing a perfect equality between the negroes and white people. [Great Laughter.] While I had not proposed to myself on this occasion to say much on that subject, yet as the question was asked me I thought I would occupy perhaps five minutes in saying something in regard to it. I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]—that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race." - Abraham Lincoln September 18 1858, Charleston Illinois.Welp, I guess thats it then...Antifa needs to tear down the Lincoln memorial and rename the grounds Oprah Park ;-) 

MalteseFalcon nmewn Wed, 08/16/2017 - 08:31 Permalink

So the question is: "Will they go after George Washington next and the constitution after that?"Are you kidding me?Academia and neo-con think tanks and 'W' have all declared the constitution a "piece of paper".They are tired of eroding it.They are tired of you referring to it.They want to burn it outright in the public square.The Constitution is in direct opposition to the belief system of the elite.

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scraping_by HalinCA (not verified) Wed, 08/16/2017 - 11:44 Permalink

Think of Antifa in a more global context. Here we have a local version of the Color Revolutions, especially the Ukraine. Rioters in the street are used as a reason that the government (The Don) has lost 'legitimacy', whatever that is. It was real in Bulgaria many years ago, maybe the Phillipines, now it's a canned script. Syria, Lybia, Tunisia, currently running in Venezuela, rent-a-rioters running around creating alarming visuals for the cameras. And, soon enough, calls for the government to step down. Since it's all about The Don, now that the Russian Stooge narrative has ground to a halt, watch the slander and character assassination rise with the publicity stunts in the streets.In the Ukraine and other places, some of the rioters were killed (snipers, etc.) so the kids making noise might want to know they're potential martyrs to a narrative. For the rest of us, hybrid warfare has come to our shores after being perfected in the Islamic world.

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Sid Davis HalinCA (not verified) Wed, 08/16/2017 - 12:49 Permalink

The Emancipation Proclamation was both a carrot and stick to encourage the Confederacy to rejoin the union. Lincoln offered the Confederacy the opportunity to end the war and rejoin the union with everything being forgiven, but if they would not by the deadline he set, he would then declared slaves in the Confederacy free. He did not free slaves in the North, and in fact the four union state that had slaves still had them on the day Lincoln was assassinated. It was the 13th amendment to the Constitution that set the slaves free in the North, and that was ratified December 6, 1865 after the Confederacy surrendered. It was only the slaves in the Confederate states that Lincoln freed as punishment for these states refusing his offer to come back into the union.

Lincoln was also trying to prevent other nations from assisting the Confederacy in the war, so part of his motive in freeing the southern slaves was as propaganda to cast moral dispersions on the Confederacy. (Does the sound like the fake morality posturing of the totalitarians today in efforts to discredit the liberty movement of the right?) I suppose other nations were supposed to ignore the fact that four union states had slaves at the same time who were not freed.

I wonder what ploys the leftists will try during Civil War II to prevent another nation from assisting the right. Leaders on the right better start currying favour with Russia now, because they are the most likely to help the right when the tipping point is reached and the violent stage of the civil divide in the US erupt into open warfare.

Make no mistake. The developing civil war will involve the totalitarian leftists, the liberty minded right, and those in power who just want to continue life in the catbird seat they use to plunder and control both the left and right. If the right intends to restore freedom, we better be prepared, because otherwise we will be exterminated. We probably don't even have a decade in which to make ourselves ready.

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MarsInScorpio nmewn Wed, 08/16/2017 - 08:44 Permalink

Sent yesterday to the NY Daily News.If they sit on it, I'll do a mass emailing later today: Virginia and New York, as do many other states and localities, have a statute against wearing a mask in public except under certain precise circumstances.  Breaking the Virginia statute is a Class 6 Felony. These laws were passed to end the practice of the KKK wearing its hoods. The Antifa Black Shirts committed a Class 6 Felony by wearing masks in Charlottesville. Because this is a felony violation, police are obligated to order them to remove the masks, or begin making arrests immediately.  Law enforcement officers do not have the choice to stand down in the witness of a felony. Except for special circumstances that do not apply in the Charlottesville incident (drug stings, infiltrating criminal organizations, and so on), it is illegal for LEOs to witness a felony and do nothing to stop the felony and arrest the perpetrator of the felony. Had the Virginia statute been vigorously enforced, it's reasonable to believe there would've been no violence in Charlottesville because so many Antifa would have either disbursed, or been arrested - unable to commit their violence. Just as with the Klan, the mask empowers the Antifas to commit violent crimes without concern about being identified and prosecuted. In addition , it's likely the mayor committed two felonies in ordering the police to stand down: 1) He facilitated the commission of a felony by allowing the Antifas to wear their masks in violation of the statute, and 2) he obstructed justice by interfering in the execution of the statute. His order was never an option; he made himself criminally liable by issuing his illegal order - which, because it is an illegal order, the police are legally obligated to ignore.  It's time for a national law modeled on the Virginia and New York statutes. Take away the masks, and you'll see a tremendous reduction in violence, just as it did to the Klan-violence when the laws were enacted. You are the first person I've educated to these laws because I wanted you to have the first opportunity to educate readers and elected officials about this - please let me know if you or the NYDN are going to do something with this; if not then I'll begin circulating it freely. The next step for me is that I'm going to begin a drive to have a national law enacted to put an end to the masked Antifa Black Shirts. Please let me know if you are interested in following that effort, or if I can offer historical references for your article, or list other states with this prohibition about wearing masks in public. BTW, these laws have been tested and were found constitutional because they address ending violence, terror, fear, and anarchy in society. Here is a copy and citation of the Virginia statute; reference to the NY statute from the National Lawyers Guild NYC Chapter follows: VIRGINIA Section 18.2-422: Prohibition of wearing of masks in certain places; exceptions.It shall be unlawful for any person over sixteen years of age while wearing any mask, hood or other device whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place, or upon any private property in this Commonwealth without first having obtained from the owner or tenant thereof consent to do so in writing. However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; (ii) engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons; (iii) engaged in any bona fide theatrical production or masquerade ball; or (iv) wearing a mask, hood or other device for bona fide medical reasons upon the advice of a licensed physician or osteopath and carrying on his person an affidavit from the physician or osteopath specifying the medical necessity for wearing the device and the date on which the wearing of the device will no longer be necessary and providing a brief description of the device. The violation of any provisions of this section shall constitute a Class 6 felony. NEW YORK Penal Law 240.35 (4):Being masked or in any manner disguised by unusual or unnatural attire or facial alteration, loiters, remains or congregates in a public place with other persons so masked or disguised, or knowingly permits or aids persons so masked or disguised to congregate in a public place; except that such conduct is not unlawful when it occurs in connection with a masquerade party or like entertainment if, when such entertainment is held in a city which has promulgated regulations in connection with such affairs, permission is first obtained from the police or other appropriate authorities; (National Lawyers Guild NYC Chapter paper on the anti-mask law)

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GeezerGeek MarsInScorpio Wed, 08/16/2017 - 15:14 Permalink

Excellent information, although I wonder how that part (Virginia) about private property would play out with Constitutionalists.I was reminded of a commercial I saw a few months back - probably during the winter - wherein several ski-mask wearing guys on their way to the slopes stop in at a small store and the clerk freaks out. Either it was an ineffective commercial or my mind is leaking, but I have no idea what product was being pushed.I also wonder, based on the NY statute, if I will be arrested if I walk around looking like a member of KISS. Could that be construed as a disguise? Moreover, I've known some females who looked totally different with makeup on. Is that considered a disguise? If not, why not? Or is it simply untruth in advertising?

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Chupacabra-322 Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:26 Permalink

Historically, thats exactly what every Country that has ever fallen under the rule of Communism have in common.

Every regime attempted to eradicate that Countires Culture to Indoctrinate future Generations in their new Image.

Communist achieved Genocide by Marginalizing Individuals within segments of Society by ostracizing their Identities to impose their own Ideology of Communism.

fbazzrea Handful of Dust Wed, 08/16/2017 - 14:17 Permalink

The Call to BattleWe're in a warfare, any way you look at it. Only it's not a warfare of hate, but of love. It's not a warfare of physical violence, but a spiritual one of intention and a truth directed life. The inherent cause and effect of Universal consciousness is the dissolution of the ways born of ignorance and darkness by means of the all powerful exposing and enlightening weapons of light, love and truth.The medieval matric, no matter how fancy and hi-tech it has become, is dissolving and losing its grip. We need to actively help it on its way to oblivion, identifying its lies and blatant agenda for control and subjugation.Don't forget, non-compliance is a decisive action, not inaction. Inaction is going with the current of the matrix.There is no sitting still. We're all doing one or the other. Complying, or rejecting and countering their flow.That's the choice. That's the battle."--You Are the Awakening, Zen Gardner 2016 Act--Take Authority... More profoundly, we are now living in an epoch of awakening where such activation is desperately needed, and to my way of understanding, it is therefore available.The even more stark reality is that it is you and I who are next in line to step into this role. For the good of all.It's no small thing and it will likely cost your life.* But doesn't any form of living cost your life? Why not live your life to the full for something with profound meaning and importance for the good of all? As far as I'm concerned anyone with any sense of conviction that's worth their salt has already crossed that irreversible rubicon. Even more directly, giving our all towards truth and right is what is immediately needed to remedy dire circumstances that have been foisted on humanity that threaten our very existence..."--You Are the Awakening, Zen Gardner 2016* emphasis mine

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new game Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:30 Permalink

we have entered into the matrix of the unkown, a thought exercise of insanity. logic and basic thought proccessing is entering a stage of sheer insanity. may the best armed and organized militias win this conflict.

you_are_cleared_hot Cognitive Dissonance Wed, 08/16/2017 - 07:52 Permalink

I really feel sad for these people (ANTIFA, Far Left, etc.) they can't deal with a Trump presidency so they have to go out and manufacture this "white nationalist" thing and use it to wipe away our country's history and probably our country as well. I don't get it, they're burning down the house with everyone still in it!the delicious irony of this is that fascists like Franco, Mussolini, and Hitler all re-wrote their country's history to better fit the narrative they were pushing...and THEY call US fascists??Sadly, unless this now festering open sore is not cured very soon...we will have another civil war on our hands

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stormsailor you_are_cleared_hot Wed, 08/16/2017 - 13:52 Permalink

there is no "discourse" with these people. they shout their demands and no rational discussion allowed. if you peacefully gather to protest you are illegally attacked, if you defend yourself you are "being violent".  when these "safety releases" are removed the alt-right (define that one) may all become extreme if they are so labeled, and bring some tactics into the next violent clashes which i believe you will see more of, like scouting the busses coming in with alt left and identifying and neutralizing them.  in depth defense with several perimeters set up.  drone scouting of where they are concentrating with reaction squads to these threats, etc. etc. etc........... i think it mentally challenged to concentrate in one place with no plan to be attacked by an organized alt-left mob and stand there taking drano, bricks, urine and feces, bats, and clubs stupidly in the face.  get there fustis with the mostest is still one of the primary combat tactics,  and they have no flank and rear support,  infiltrators with cell phones can text data about what the nitwits will try next. right now it is just unbounded anarchy and the alt-left are using the rights reaction to police to concentrate, notice how they followed the right to their vehicles and attacked them when they tried to get out

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Gunga Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:34 Permalink

The communist plan to destroy America was read into the Congressional Record in 1964. It is obvious this is the playbook the left is running now. Search rense.com the communist takeover of America to read it yourself. Please help get this word out.

Handful of Dust Gunga Wed, 08/16/2017 - 08:47 Permalink

Reminds me of Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge and the Cambodian Genocide: Modern research has located 20,000 mass graves from the Khmer Rouge era all over Cambodia. Various studies have estimated the death toll at between 740,000 and 3,000,000, most commonly between 1.4 million and 2.2 million, with perhaps half of those deaths being due to executions, and the rest from starvation and disease.[59]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge

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theprofromdover Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:42 Permalink

I find it bizarre that the 'educated' Left can be so easily distracted from focusing on the really big issues.Racism and multi-culturalism are basically non-events in the West. Look back at the past and compare with the present day.There is definitely a problem with law-enforcement, but that is moving against all of the people now. If the Left would focus on-Corrupt Congress and SenateCorrupt Pharmacuticals industryCorrupt MICCorrupt interference in other countries' businessCorrupt AgriBusinessCorrupt legal systemtheir energies might improve Society. 

TahoeBilly2012 theprofromdover Wed, 08/16/2017 - 07:53 Permalink

I will tell you exactly why, because they have failed at everything! They don't want to discuss pensions, when they can just move on to "making the next thing better". There is NO accountability or even theme with these people, it's the grand illusions of movving from subject to subject and making it better, fixing it, while in reality all their fixes are destroying us. I find it bizarre that the 'educated' Left can be so easily distracted from focusing on the really big issues.Racism and multi-culturalism are basically non-events in the West. Look back at the past and compare with the present day.There is definitely a problem with law-enforcement, but that is moving against all of the people now. If the Left would focus on-Corrupt Congress and SenateCorrupt Pharmacuticals industryCorrupt MICCorrupt interference in other countries' businessCorrupt AgriBusinessCorrupt legal systemtheir energies might improve Society.

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MalteseFalcon theprofromdover Wed, 08/16/2017 - 08:45 Permalink

"Racism and multi-culturalism are basically non-events in the West."I wish Trump would say this, and drop the mic.Racism is problem number 997 in the list of American problems.Slavery for blacks ended over 150 years ago.About 50 years after slavery for everyone else.After over 50 years of the Great Society's "helping hand", that policy has achieved all it is going to achieve.Yet there is still "slavery" today.Human trafficking, including children to support the perversions of the elite.Oh look over there, a statue of Jefferson!!!

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Memedada theprofromdover Wed, 08/16/2017 - 09:22 Permalink

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It is only in US the “left” of your corporate controlled political landscape is made impotent, ridiculous and hypocritical (not that the rest of the political landscape is any prettier). It serves the goal of TINA (there is no alternative) of your corporate masters. I have not seen one actual left-wing argument in a US media ever. The closet is the “single payer” in health-care, but still just a form of “social liberalism” (right-wing). And it is very seldom to debate a US pleb who can make a left-wing argument (and not just regurgitate corporate versions of left-wing arguments).  The point is: US doesn’t have a left-wing just a corporate constructed caricature. US have corporatism – the rule for and by privately owned corporations (also known as fascism).Both the DEMS and the REPS are owned. The day that you see arguments for nationalizing the FED, democratizing the medias (breaking up the private monopoly on “news”), expropriate the ill-gotten wealth of the FIRE-sector, expanding the commons, ending private property over the means of production (not ending personal/utility property – there’s a huge difference) or other real left-wing policies I’ll take the notion of a US “left-wing” serious.

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nmewn Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:52 Permalink

Here we go...in attempting to explain why elected officials ordered the police to pullback (thus creating the vacuum into which the rioting & chaos stepped) Governor McAuliffe revealed more than he was supposed to...“It’s easy to criticize, but I can tell you this, 80% of the people here had semiautomatic weapons," McAuliffe said....which is, not a single shot was fired by either side.So all this hand wringing snobbery and elitist chatter about "the common people" being too incompetent & reckless to own or possess firearms was another lie...Terry? ;-)

otschelnik Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:43 Permalink

Yep, Madison, Washington, Jefferson were all Virginia boys.  And the irony of it all: Robert E. Lee, who's statue stands at the center of Charlottesville, freed all his slaves long before the civil war started. 

Haitian Snackout Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:46 Permalink

My guess is that they'll do anything to keep the focus on slave owners and away from the slave traders. That was the idea all along right? Can anyone name a single MSM article that goes down that forbidden path? Magician....now watch my left hand.

overmedicatedu… Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:51 Permalink

civil war looks alot like this.,I cannot help but think the lefts acts of destruction of history here, seems much like the taliban destruction of historic statues and sites across asia..they want a hot civil war.

shimmy Wed, 08/16/2017 - 06:53 Permalink

Maybe it is just time everyone just ignores the libtards and they might quit this idiocy. It is at least worth a try as stating fact and trying to be reasonable with them is going nowhere as they seem to like all the attention, even if it is making them look more insane. 

Cloud9.5 Wed, 08/16/2017 - 07:30 Permalink

Only a demagogue with an agenda or a mindless fool believes in literal equality.  We are young and old fit and frail, intelligent and not so much.  By adopting this agenda we derail the potential of the top twenty five percent while filling the bottom with impossible dreams that only end in despair, frustration and rage. Marxism was and is a religion that imagines an impossible utopia that can only be built by the genocide of billions of superior and inferior souls.  The only way to have actual equality is to kill us all save one. The far left and the far right are the useful idiots of psychopaths.  Having these people riot in the streets serves no purpose but to stoke the egos of bellicose rabble rousers.  To deny that there are schemes afoot is to ignore history.  The intent is to shred the last remnants of the republic and replace it with a loud and vociferous mob that claims to hold the moral high ground.  A mob has no mind.  It is an emotional construct that vents its rage and destruction on hapless victims while tearing down the infrastructure of the existing society. All opposition is silenced with racial slurs and bigoted slander.  The intent is to have the mob propel an easily controlled charismatic to the pinnacle of power.  The racists, the Marxists, the fascists and the anarchists have a common goal. They want to burn down the national edifice.  Each faction has the delusional supposition that their poorly imagined version of the future will unfold when the lights go out.The politicians who are nothing more than popular panderers have one of two options.  Enforce the law and charge these people with rioting, destruction of public property and jail them and bill them for it or surrender to the mob.With the first shut down, the second will soon follow, then the shooting war begins.  

HalinCA (not verified) Cloud9.5 Wed, 08/16/2017 - 08:49 Permalink

The '60s race riots proved the politicians are unwilling to enforce the law.  Look what that led to:  3 generations of taxpayer funded welfare babies, the destruction of a race's family structure, and a police state.It could be the nation's next generation will finally have to deal with the business Reconstruction left undone.  Very painful and messy.

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SillySalesmanQ… Wed, 08/16/2017 - 07:10 Permalink

The Libtards are a very small, but DANGEROUS minority and forever shall be. Their infantile, "me first" mentality, has infected a good portion of society.
But, like any unwanted disease, we shall find a cure for this unwanted and unwarranted intrusion of our society...