Do Shifting Democrat Talking Points Confirm That "Trump Is Unlikely To Be Implicated" In Russia Probe?

Over the past several weeks, the Russia-related talking points of Democrats and their mainstream media echo chambers have shifted from constantly insisting that Trump colluded with Russia during the 2016 election to focus on a seemingly irrelevant amount of advertising dollars that may have been spent on various social media platforms by people that "may have been connected" to the Kremlin...which, to our understanding, is defined as anyone with their browser language set to Russian.

Alas, as the Washington Examiner points out today, this shift in talking points could finally indicate that Democrats are admitting that there is no 'there' there when it comes to the 'Trump collusion' narrative.

Have you noticed? In recent public comments, the lawmakers investigating the Trump-Russia affair, along with some of the commentators who dissect its every development, seem to be focusing more on the facts of Russia's attempts to interfere with the 2016 election and less on allegations that Donald Trump or his associates colluded with those efforts.


Why the change?


"Because that's where the evidence is going," one lawmaker who follows the matter closely told me in a text exchange. "I mean, things could always change, but that observation is just the reality of the situation right now, as I see it."


"Because they've been spinning their wheels on something for which evidence has yet to emerge," said another lawmaker.


"I think it's 1) the Mueller probe means that stuff [allegations of collusion] is sort of in his wheelhouse now," said yet another lawmaker, "and 2) I think there's recognition that Trump himself is unlikely to be implicated in this."


Meanwhile, the New York Times admitted over the weekend that the 3 separate Congressional investigations are seemingly going nowhere as the hopes of a "comprehensive, authoritative and bipartisan accounting of the extraordinary efforts of a hostile power to disrupt American democracy appears to be dwindling."

All three committees looking into Russian interference — one in the House, two in the Senate — have run into problems, from insufficient staffing to fights over when the committees should wrap up their investigations. The Senate Judiciary Committee’s inquiry has barely started, delayed in part by negotiations over the scope of the investigation. Leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee, while maintaining bipartisan comity, have sought to tamp down expectations about what they might find.


Nine months into the Trump administration, any notion that Capitol Hill would provide a comprehensive, authoritative and bipartisan accounting of the extraordinary efforts of a hostile power to disrupt American democracy appears to be dwindling.

And even CNN's Chris Cuomo seemingly revealed some frustration and doubt in a recent interview with Adam Schiff saying "if it was so obvious, it if were so egregious, you should have known by now."

"Well, no one's saying this was obvious," Schiff answered. "Obviously, there was a deep interest in the Russians in keeping their work hidden. But you can't say there's no evidence of collusion."


"We've seen even in the public realm, I think, very graphic evidence that the Trump campaign was willing to collude with the Russians," Schiff continued. That was most likely a reference to the infamous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting which Kremlin-connected Russians enticed Donald Trump, Jr. into attending by promising dirt on Hillary Clinton. In fact, the Russians wanted to push their goal of killing the Magnitsky Act, and the meeting, by all accounts, ended quickly. But Schiff argues that it suggests the willingness to collude, if not collusion itself.


"So you can't say even in the public realm, let alone what we're looking at [in secret], that there's no evidence," Schiff concluded. "Now, is there proof beyond a reasonable doubt? Are we ready to announce a conclusion? We're not there yet."

Of course, it does seem somewhat 'convenient' that Democrats are suddenly eager to bury the Russian collusion narratives just as pressure is building for an investigation into the Clintons' role in a massive Russian bribery, extortion and money laundering scheme that ultimately handed the Russians 20% of America's uranium reserves. For those who missed them, here are out recent notes on the topic:

So what say you?  Is the timing pure coincidence or are the Clintons and Democrats suddenly eager for a truce now the Russia narratives have become "inconvenient."


philipat El Oregonian Mon, 10/23/2017 - 20:20 Permalink

They are likely to shift the "talking points" away from Russia entirely because it is now much more likely to uncover the corruption of the Clintons and team Obama?Doesn't it seem remarkable that the "party in power" has to sit back and take all this shit whilst not able to appoint its own Special Prosecutor to investigate the Clintons, the Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, Holder, Lynch, Rosenstein, McCabe, Comey and Mueller? I would suggest that demonstrates who is really "in power"? And it isn't your elecetd Government or The Constitution.

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Paul Kersey Spinkbottle Mon, 10/23/2017 - 19:53 Permalink

This probe, or series of probes, was never about Russia influencing the election. That was just the point of entry for a probe of the taxes of the Trump family and Trump associates. Deep State is looking for evidence of Russian mob/oligarch money laundering through Trump real estate and of big paydays for Trump associates peddling influence for millionaire Russian "government officials". Then there is also the Trump emoluments case, presently in front of Obama appointed Judge George Daniels. The NY case is already deep in discovery. The goal of all of this is to get Trump under oath, so that he will have to answer questions generated by Mueller's team of forensic accountants, who are busy looking up Trump's ass like a proctologists with floodlights. Where all this is heading is a reopening of the probe of the dismissal of the $230 million Prevezon case by Attorney General Jeff Sessions (this is why he really recused himself from all things Russian), when the former Obama Fed prosecutors all but had Preveson nailed for Fraud violations and possibly the death of Magnitsky. Preveson was represented by Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian attorney, who met with Trump Jr. during the campaign after promising incriminating information on Hillary Clinton.

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redmudhooch atomp Mon, 10/23/2017 - 20:47 Permalink

How soon can we get AIPAC owned traitors out of Congress ?… is it such a serious matter to get these signers of the AIPAC Loyalty Oath out of Congress? The reason is obvious, without these Traitors who are sellouts to AIPAC and Israel, America could not have been transformed into a virtual province of Israel.Right now the traitors inside the beltway are meeting frequently and desperately trying to come up with a sneaky way to censor and restrict the Alternative media of the Internet. It is unlikely that the American people will allow this and such a move could result in a new American revolution fought in the street of America by millions or armed Americans against the USG and its stooges and Traitors.We now know for certain beyond any reasonable doubt that Israel attacked America on 9-11-01 as a very crafty, deep cover Gladio-style False-flag attack. They were assisted by Stateside Israeli-American “Israeli-first” Dual Citizens, PNACers, top NeoCons and other traitors in the high US Administration, Congressional Intel committees, the JCS, the USAF, NORAD, the FAA and FEMA as well as the major of NYC Rudolf Guiliani.Nor could America have been transformed into an Israeli slave-state, provider and war-fighter for Israel with an endless supply of American Soldiers to use as Israeli cannon-fodder in their quest to expand and create “greater Israel”.Very few Americans know of this treasonous betrayal by all but one Member of Congress. This betrayal is a very serious, grievous violation of their Oath of Office and also American espionage laws and it constitutes Treason. Why do we know for certain this signing the AIPAC Loyalty Oath is Treason?The US Congress and the high USG Administration is filled with AIPAC owned Traitors, they refuse to identify this AIPAC “elephant in the living room” and do their job and get rid of it. Allowing Israeli espionage fronts inside America especially after they were involved in the 9-11-01 attack on America is absurd.

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DirtySanchez Mon, 10/23/2017 - 18:50 Permalink

Schiff is just one more piece of shit, egregious, trouble making dual citizen.

These scum bags have been universally hated and exiled for over two millenium, for a very good reason.

redmudhooch Akzed Mon, 10/23/2017 - 20:48 Permalink

Yes, Germany was back then a democracy, before us (before The Third Reich), and we have been plundered and squeezed dry. No . . . what does democracy or authoritarian state mean to those international hyenas? They don’t care at all. They are only interested in one thing: Are you willing to be plundered? Yes or no? Are you stupid enough to keep quiet in the process? Yes or no? And when a democracy is stupid enough not to stand up, then it is good. But when an authoritarian state declares, ‘You are not going to plunder our people . . .’ neither from the inside nor the outside’, then that is bad.In these countries, in the so-called democracies, its people is by no means the main focus of attention. What really matters is EXCLUSIVELY THE Existence of this group of ‘democracy makers.’ That is, the existence of a few hundred giant capitalists who own all the factories and shares and who, ultimately, lead the people. They are not interested at all in the great mass of people. They are the only ones who can be addressed as international elements because they conduct their business everywhere. It is a small, rootless international clique that is turning the people against each other, that does not want them to have peace… They can suppress us. They can kill us if you like, but we will not capitulate!It was a fight, especially against the people who seemed to have omnipotent power in our nation – the struggle against the Jews; a Satanic power had taken over our whole country that had been able to grip key positions of intellectual and spiritual life, but also of the political and economic life. And from these key positions they were able to control and monitor the whole nation. This power had, at the same time, the influence to persecute, even with the law, those who fought against this power, and those who were willing to oppose the advance of it.-Adolf Hitler

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WillyGroper GeezerGeek Mon, 10/23/2017 - 19:57 Permalink

could he be a good poker player?just ran across this...what we all thought was a fat finger."Covefe is the password to comet pizza. Means “I stand.” Just like the signed poster of customers saying “I Stand with Comet” during pizzagate. Occultists chant covefe together when someone is being sacrificed. Btw “c” in hebrew can be pronounced “bef” or “baf”. Making Comet alternate pronounciation as Baphomet."

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WillyGroper Anonymous_Bene… Mon, 10/23/2017 - 21:04 Permalink

jeeeezuz, he's not dead!same mo, no camera footage when the whole neighborhood had them from grants.look at the vids of his bro & parents...fkn robbie parker 2.0sandyhoaxer skool play.1 freak'n person signed his online party big dnc boy had 1 friend in the whole world.  in hi skool he did a stint in izz ra hell with the moss odd...get it?ru a mongoloid?

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xrxs Herdee Mon, 10/23/2017 - 19:35 Permalink

To the layperson, the dossier didn't seem credible on its face. Maybe we'll learn more about its origins in the future. Haven't heard much about Wikileaks either recently. I think Wikileaks had a fairly significant impact, and I think that's what Rosalynn Carter meant when she referred to the 'drip, drip, drip' of negative stories.

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dishman1966 Mon, 10/23/2017 - 18:57 Permalink

That dude is the biggest scum bag.  What happened to the unmasked conversations that were uncovered?  The people that actually tried to fix the election are investigating fixing an election.  Ridiculous.  What happened to Nunes?   He gets removed and the democrats are running the show?   One party game.  

GeezerGeek dishman1966 Mon, 10/23/2017 - 19:20 Permalink

Republicans - particularly RINOs - don't investigate Democrats. Non-RINO Republicans who try are suppressed.I keep hoping that the 'storm' part of Trump's 'calm before the storm' comment will consist of a total takedown of the Luciferian establishment, regardless of party affiliation. That should include anyone who knew and kept silent. We're seeing a good example of the corruption and cover-ups in the Weinstein dustup. This country needs an enema in the worst way: flush the shit out of the body politic.

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drchris Mon, 10/23/2017 - 18:57 Permalink

Is there a video of Trump asking the Russian President to help him win the election in exchange for concessions on missile defense? Or do we only have the one with Obama? 

StephenHopkins Mon, 10/23/2017 - 19:17 Permalink

The Awan Spyring in Congress, graham&mccain comedy team, democrats turn into the war party, Trump runs on peace, Syria is suddenly free of ISIS after Klingon loses the election: we didn’t start the fire but it’s going to burn our a$$s if we don’t put out the fire in the military industrial complex Swamp congress Monster.

loveyajimbo Mon, 10/23/2017 - 19:29 Permalink

Schiff makes Maxipad Waters, Pigfart Pelosi and the Chimp Pimp Cowgirl Freddy Wilson look like high-level intellects...If he is looking so hard for lawbreaking and treason... Why the fuck does he ignore Hillary's PROVEN (ask traitor Comey) espionage, perjury and obstruction felonies?!?!?