Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton Would've Been "More Dangerous" Than Trump

In an interview with the Guardian published Sunday night, actress Susan Sarandon – a noted anti-war and climate progressive – described her former friend Hillary Clinton as “very dangerous” in response to an interviewer’s question about why she supported Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

Furthermore, Sarandon, who has been the subject of vicious and persistent attacks by leftists for supporting a third-party candidate that many blame, wrongly, for throwing the election to Trump. She said she had to change her phone number because – get this – angry Clinton supporters left a torrent of death and rape threats on her voicemail.

Sarandon, who fist became involved in activism as a young woman when she became an early and vocal proponent of the anti-War movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s, even suggested that Clinton might’ve been “more dangerous” than Trump.

Did she really say that Hillary was more dangerous than Trump?


“Not exactly, but I don’t mind that quote,” she says. “I did think she was very, very dangerous. We would still be fracking, we would be at war [if she was president]. It wouldn’t be much smoother. Look what happened under Obama that we didn’t notice."

Though she supported Clinton’s first bid for the senate in 2001, Sarandon said her support for Clinton evaporated when the then-senator voted in favor of the war in Iraq.

It is often overlooked that in 2001, Sarandon supported Hillary Clinton’s run for the Senate. There are photos of them posing chummily together, grinning. Then Clinton voted for the war in Iraq and it all went downhill. During the last election, Sarandon supported Bernie Sanders, then wouldn’t support Clinton after she won the nomination, and now all the moderates hate her, to the extent, she says, that she had to change her phone number because people she identifies as Hillary trolls sent her threatening messages. “I got from Hillary people ‘I hope your crotch is grabbed’, ‘I hope you’re raped’. Misogynistic attacks. Recently, I said ‘I stand with Dreamers’ [children brought illegally to the US, whose path to legal citizenship – an Obama-era provision – Trump has threatened to revoke] and that started another wave."


Wait, from the right?


“No, from the left! ‘How dare you! You who are responsible for this!’"

In a jab at her critics on the left, Sarandon said she isn’t worried about the threats or the criticism from people who bizarrely blame her for throwing the election to Trump. Instead, she’s worried that the left’s refusal to reckon with the true nature of the problem – that the DNC rigged an election to favor a flawed, unpopular candidate - will harm progressive causes in the long run.

“Well, that’s why we’re going to lose again if we depend on the DNC [the Democratic National Committee]. Because the amount of denial ... I mean it’s very flattering to think that I, on my own, cost the election. That my little voice was the deciding factor."


Is it upsetting to be attacked?


“It’s upsetting to me more from the point of view of thinking they haven’t learned. I don’t need to be vindicated."


But it’s upsetting that they’re still feeding the same misinformation to people. When Obama got the nomination, 25% of [Hillary’s] people didn’t vote for him. Only 12% of Bernie’s people didn’t vote for her."


But she didn’t advocate voting for Hillary! Come on.




Didn’t she advocate voting for Jill Stein?


“I didn’t advocate people voting for anything. I said get your information, I’m going to vote for change, because I was hoping that Stein was going to get whatever percentage she needed – but I knew she wasn’t going to make the difference in the election.”

Luckily, Sarandon said her friends have stood by her, at least.

Has she lost friends over all this? “No. My friends have a right to their opinions. It’s disappointing but that’s their business. It’s like in the lead-up to Vietnam, and then later they say: ‘You were right.’ Or strangely, some of my gay friends were like: ‘Oh, I just feel bad for [Clinton]. And I said: ‘She’s not authentic. She’s been terrible to gay people for the longest time. She’s an opportunist.’ And then I’m like: ‘OK, let’s not talk about it any more.’"


Still, I think while there was vast political error on both sides, the inability of Sarandon and her ilk to embrace the lesser of two evils permitted the greater of the two evils to rise. And yet I like Sarandon. It takes real courage to go against the mob. Her inconsistencies are a little wild, but in the age of social-media enforced conformity, I have never met anyone so uninterested in toeing the line.

When it comes to deportations, Sarandon said a hypothetical Clinton administration probably have continued with Obama’s strategy of “sneakily” deporting immigrants.

Given his record on immigration and extrajudicial drone-enabled murder, Sarandon said she was shocked that he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

It seems absurd to argue that healthcare, childcare, taxation for the non-rich wouldn’t be better now under President Clinton, and that’s before we get to the threat of deportation hanging over millions of immigrants. “She would’ve done it the way Obama did it,” says Sarandon, “which was sneakily. He deported more people than have been deported now. How he got the Nobel peace prize I don’t know. I think it was very important to have a black family in the White House and I think some of the stuff he did was good. He tried really hard about healthcare. But he didn’t go all the way because of big pharma."

This isn’t the first time Sarandon has suggested that Clinton could be a greater national security risk than Trump. She made similar comments in June 2016, just as Clinton was clinching the nomination. At that time, Trump’s “America First” foreign policy pledge – which was based on a philosophy of noninterventionism – was arguably more dovish than his rival.

Of course, Trump has pivoted away from that stance since taking office, authorizing more troop deployments in Afghanistan and threatening North Korea with nuclear annihilation, chagrining many of his early supporters.   


Scar Bro TheLastTrump Tue, 11/28/2017 - 11:19 Permalink

In other news, jews struck a deal with Rwanda to pay them 5k for every black person they allow to be deported from the stolen land.....Hang on a minute. We asked the public: Members of which Tribe would be MOST apoplectic if the U.S or any European nation proposed (let alone actually FUCKING ARRANGED) THIS SENSIBLE IDEAA)BlacksB)ArabsC)Running out of tribes here... someone help me outD)The chosen peopleAnd the answer is....... D) THE FUCKING PEOPLE CHOSEN BY GOD HIMSELF TO RULE OVER US

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HowdyDoody Billy the Poet Tue, 11/28/2017 - 12:06 Permalink

"Look what happened under Obama that we didn't notice"

Who is the 'we', kimosabe? Some of us noticed the funding of terrorism by the Obama regime, the training of 'carefully vetted moderates' who 'defected' to al Qaeda, the execution of US citizens without due process, based on secret evidence presented in secret courts, the destruction of Libya, Ukraine and the now failed attempt to do the same to Syria.

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insanelysane HowdyDoody Tue, 11/28/2017 - 12:45 Permalink

Exactly.  Somehow the fix to GWB's screw up caused by regime change in Iraq was going to be solved by regime change in Egypt, Libya, Yemen, and Syria.  Regime change in Ukraine was just to give the Biden family some cash flow.  Obama's JV reference ISIS should be mentioned every time his name is mentioned.  It is Obama's legacy.

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38BWD22 Scar Bro Tue, 11/28/2017 - 13:42 Permalink

  Just asking.  Hey, lots of weird claims here at ZH.  Thank you for the reference.Some people claim that they buy Korean bearings and shit.  Google that!:p  :) EDIT: That might be a great way for Europe to rid itself of illegal Muslims.  Pay Pakistan $5000 each, seems it would be a bargain for Europe and for the Pakis....

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GUS100CORRINA TheLastTrump Tue, 11/28/2017 - 11:51 Permalink

Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton Would've Been "More Dangerous" Than TrumpMy response: There is a GLIMMER of SANITY in HOLLYWOOD. Who would of thought it possible?HRC is a very dangerous person and needs to be SHUT DOWN and LOCKED UP.The real TRAGEDY for America is that there are still MILLIONS of PEOPLE who think this lady would have been a good and honorable POTUS! Truly sad... so many MARXIST PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS who need therapy.Remember, the INDICTMENT STORM is coming and HRC is on the list.

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Paul Kersey Scar Bro Tue, 11/28/2017 - 12:48 Permalink

"My dislikes are just the jew count on this site."

Not many joos commenting on this site. The down votes are probably just a few folks wondering why you think it's so important to hijack the thread, which, had you bothered to read the article, was about a liberal woman trashing Hillary. Many of us actually enjoy reading about liberals admitting that Hillary is a POS. Instead of spending time complaining about down votes fracturing your eggshell ego, you might think about spending more time actually reading the article.

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Scar Bro Paul Kersey Tue, 11/28/2017 - 13:13 Permalink

That's a bullshit post if ever I saw one.Not too many joos on this site - bullshit. Just look over the past few days how many Israeli shills have been outedLiberal woman trashing Hillary - Oh great. I don't listen to insignificant idiots when they say shit I don't agree with and they don't suddenly become significant just because they now, for whatever reason, start agreeing with me.down votes fracturing your eggshell ego - If I gave a fuck, I'd just come on here and start echoing comments getting a lot of greens. I have nothing against whites who are liberal OR conservative - there's room for both. I have something against the incessant squabbling amongst whites when the fact is, there's leading jews on both sides stoking the fire.As it is, if you don't like it, no point being a snowflake about it, just hit the kikecounter and fuck off.

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Paul Kersey Scar Bro Tue, 11/28/2017 - 15:30 Permalink

"Methinks the gentleman hath no foreskin." Scarf Pro, I'd rather not know that you're thinking about my johnson, and, as if that wasn't enough, now you're trying to hijack the thread to address your favorite subject, baby (Anthony) weiners. You've spent too much time in the shower with Coach Sandusky. But seriously, as a woman trapped in a trans body, are you saying that you prefer your dates to be uncut?

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TheLastTrump ???ö? Tue, 11/28/2017 - 11:15 Permalink

Look at douche hole Obama visiting China & India after Trump & his daughter did both within the last couple weeks....

He's so narcissistic he has to try to overshadow Trump at all times & at any cost.

Look at him stirring up shit daily to try to trip Trump up.....look at these scumbag "Americans" living off tax payer dollars while attempting to subvert the Constitution & the will of the voters....

The number of illegal alien voters in California alone is faaaaar beyond 3 million....

This is what will bring civil war II, the realization that America has been deliberately stolen by common criminals & Mexican nationals.

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crazzziecanuck jcaz Tue, 11/28/2017 - 11:54 Permalink

She's been consistent, though.  She was right about how Obama basically eviscerated the anti-war movement on the Left the very same time he expanded the wars abroad.I have serious concerns about how it's written that critics on Sarandon's "left" are criticising her for helping get Trump elected.  The problem is that doesn't jive with reality.  People to the left of Sarandon either didn't vote or voted third party.  Now, I joke that some Republicans are to the 'left' of Hillary Clinton.  It's not true, but it's not far off.

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True Blue jcaz Tue, 11/28/2017 - 13:42 Permalink

Worse: she admits that the principal reason for voting for the Zero was her unabashed racism. "I think it was very important to have a black family in the White House"Nothing about qualifications, nothing about skill, or diplomacy or representing the American public; but simply and solely due to the color of the Zero's skin.That tells you all you need to know about this thing.

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Ghordius junction Tue, 11/28/2017 - 11:48 Permalink

a bit more on it:

"That year, 160,000 people contracted the virus that causes AIDS in the 53 countries that make up the World Health Organization's European region, the agency said in a joint report with the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC)."

now, uglier:

"Around 80 percent of those were in eastern Europe, the report found."

Russia is the worst off, btw. the usual reasons: drugs (heroin), little use of condoms paired with suppression of gays


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junction Ghordius Tue, 11/28/2017 - 12:37 Permalink

Right, but the outlook is grimmer because these numbers, probably from the WHO, are already out of date.  When the "Syrian" refugees started pouring into Germany, doctors there said they were encountering patients with diseases that hadn't been seen in Europe for 50 years.  Look at that North Korean defector who was a soldier, supposedly better treated by Kim's regime.  He had TB and giant intestinal parasites.  Third world countries are sinking into the abyss and, like a drowning person, they will drag anyone nearby down with them. 

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