McCain Associate Subpoenaed Over Trump Dossier

Several months ago it emerged that the Republican sponsor behind the Fusion GPS Trump project was hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, a fact which surprised many who expected that John McCain would be the GOP mastermind looking for dirt in Trump's past. However, a new and credible McCain trail has emerged in the annals of the "Trump Dossier" after the Washington Examiner reported that the House Intelligence Committee issued a subpoena to an associate of John McCain over his connection with the salacious dossier containing unverified allegations about Trump and his ties to Russia, which many speculate served as the illegitimate basis for FISA warrants against the Trump campaign - permitting the NSA to listen in on Trump's phone calls - and which the president yesterday slammed as "bogus" and a "crooked Hillary pile of garbage."

In the latest twist, committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) wants to talk to David Kramer, a former State Department official and current senior fellow at the McCain Institute for International Leadership at Arizona State University, about his visit to London in November 2016. During his trip, at McCain's request Kramer met with the dossier's author, former British spy Christopher Steele, to view “the pre-election memoranda on a confidential basis,” according to court filings and to receive a briefing and a copy of the Trump dossier. Kramer then returned to the U.S. to give the document to McCain. McCain then took a copy of the dossier to the FBI's then-director, James Comey. But the FBI already had the document; Steele himself gave the dossier to the bureau in installments, reportedly beginning in early July 2016.


David Kramer

While McCain, recovering in Arizona from treatments for cancer, has long refused to detail his actions regarding the dossier, his associate Kramer was interviewed by the House Intelligence Committee on Dec. 19. The new subpoena stems from statements Kramer made in that interview. In the session, the Washington Examiner reports, Kramer told House investigators that he knew the identities of the Russian sources for the allegations in Steele's dossier. But when investigators pressed Kramer to reveal those names, he declined to do so.

Now, he is under subpoena which was issued Wednesday afternoon, and directs Kramer to appear again before House investigators on Jan. 11.

As the ongoing government probe slowly turns away from Trump's "collusion" with the Russians and toward the FBI "insurance policy" to allegedly prevent Trump from becoming president by fabricating a narrative of Russian cooperation with the Trump, knowing Steele's sources will be a critical part of the congressional dossier investigation:

"If one argues the document is unverified and never will be, it is critical to learn the identity of the sources to support that conclusion. If one argues the document is the whole truth, or largely true, knowing sources is equally critical."

There is another reason to know Steele's sources, and that is to learn not just the origin of the dossier but its place in the larger Trump-Russia affair. As the WashEx adds, there is a belief among some congressional investigators that the Russians who provided information to Steele were using Steele to disrupt the American election as much as the Russians who distributed hacked Democratic Party emails. In some investigators' views, they are the two sides of the Trump-Russia project, both aimed at sowing chaos and discord in the American political system.

Still, investigators who favor this theory ask a sensible question: "It is likely that all the Russians involved in the attempt to influence the 2016 election were lying, scheing, Kremlin-linked, Putin-backed enemies of America – except the Russians who talked to Christopher Steele?"

On the other hand, the theory is still just a theory, for now... and as the Examiner's Byron York correctly points out, to validate -or refute - it House investigators will seek Steele's sources – and is why they will try to compel Kramer to talk.

Comments

MuffDiver69 Dec 27, 2017 8:00 PM Permalink

Just who is this Kramer fellow? Here’s his Wiki page (clearly written by Kramer himself):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_J._Kramer

He’s a lifelong lefty swamp dweller with a background in Russian and human rights affairs. He left the State Dept. in 2009 for his current job at the McCain Inst. at Arizona State.

But just why was Kramer, of all people, sent to London to meet with Steele, and on whose initiative? On McCain’s?

Is he connected to Fusion GPS or the Ohrs? And why would he make the bombshell claim to know the identities of the Russian sources of the dossier when testifying before the House Intelligence Committee and then refuse to actually name names?

Just a hunch, but I wonder if Mr. Kramer had a hand in fabricating the dossier?

Which begs the question: Was McCain involved in fabricating the dossier?

indygo55 Dec 27, 2017 7:50 PM Permalink

What about Binney? No mention of that little factoid? The emails were downloaded locally. The data proves that the data was down loaded at a speed that could only be done directly to, say a thumbdrive. Thump ordered the CIA head Pompaio to meet Binney and discuss the matter. It has been shown that US policy dictates that the local download cannot have happened lest the entire integegence community look stupid. Chack it out https://theintercept.com/2017/11/07/dnc-hack-trump-cia-director-william… 

trailer park boys Dec 27, 2017 7:42 PM Permalink

"As the WashEx adds, there is a belief among some congressional investigators that the Russians who provided information to Steele were using Steele to disrupt the American election as much as the Russians who distributed hacked Democratic Party emails. In some investigators' views, they are the two sides of the Trump-Russia project, both aimed at sowing chaos and discord in the American political system." Well, the neocons should be happy. Either way, Hillary guilty or Trump guilty, the Russkis were complicit and sowing chaos and discord. Win-win for the war party narrative. BTW, the democrat party emails were leaked, not hacked - the biggest of all the big lies.

Lord Raglan Dec 27, 2017 7:14 PM Permalink

I bet the Russians who gave that guppy Steele the information for the dossier must have laughed their asses off for months at a time!  I bet they haven't stopped laughing.......

lurker since 2012 Dec 27, 2017 7:41 PM Permalink

Quote from articleThere is another reason to know Steele's sources, and that is to learn not just the origin of the dossier but its place in the larger Trump-Russia affair. As the WashEx adds, there is a belief among some congressional investigators that the Russians who provided information to Steele were using Steele to disrupt the American election as much as the Russians who distributed hacked Democratic Party emails. In some investigators' views, they are the two sides of the Trump-Russia project, both aimed at sowing chaos and discord in the American political system.IMOP As a Australian i await a 'republican or democrap' to come to me and ask (for monetary reward) whats my thoughts on Hellory CUNTon. I wont hold back and to hell with interfering with the Presidential election. Dying to good for her!

johnnycanuck Dec 27, 2017 6:38 PM Permalink

A reasonably intelligent person would be insulted by the actions of these people who clearly think they can throw out meaningless garbage to keep people from paying attention to what is really important.Hookers widdled on the donald!  Did not...Did too!  Did not... Did too!Is your intelligence insulted yet?  If not, maybe there's a  reason for that.Apparently the fat Don gave up two of your National Parks recently to his friends, the Corporate resource extractors.. He's been busy shining Israeli boots too in case you didn't notice.  He owes the old Vegas sin vendor you see., And when you owe Vegas, and the resource extractors like Koch bros, you pay the debt. Or else.

Wild E Coyote johnnycanuck Dec 27, 2017 7:41 PM Permalink

It is you who are not focusing on the important fact.
Trump announced Support for Jerusalem as capital of Israel.
The end result is US saved a couple of hundred million dollars.
That is important.
US have yet to move the embassy.
The GOP platform was written in 2016 to return Federal Land back to the States. If states use some rich Koch brothers to extract resources then money goes to the State.

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Tennessee Patriot Dec 27, 2017 6:10 PM Permalink

OOOhhh, a subpoena. Yeah, that'll do it.  That'll scare the shit out of him. Got a suggestion:  Have a couple of Federal Marshalls drag his ass out of bed at 0-Dark-30, handcuff him and drag his ass kicking & screaming into the House Chamber, with black eyes and multiple cuts & contusions. Maybe then, and ONLY THEN, will we get some real answers as to what is going on. Quit fucking around with these tratorious assholes for once. 

Justapleb Dec 27, 2017 5:56 PM Permalink

Sorry, but any credence whatsoever to "Russia", even saying the name, is diversionary twaddle of the first rank.It is the content of Hillary's emails and the criminal conduct of the conspirators, not Russia, that matters.   I don't give a shit about Russia, period.  Irony in the story?   So what.   We need Clinton at the gas chamber for sedition.   When Seth Rich downloaded the DNC files on a thumb drive, the conspirators had to get in front of the story.   So before Wikileaks released the emails, the DNC and deep state already had the story out that Russians had hacked them.Since the Wikileaks release it has been nonstop Russia Russia Russia.   

Chupacabra-322 new game Dec 27, 2017 6:18 PM Permalink

@ new,

Remember, where dealing with Psychopaths here. And, under complete Hubirs, Narcissism, Lack of Remorse, Impulsity & lack of goals will be their demise.

As with all Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths who lack self control, the moral will & fortitude to stop them must come from sane outside individuals by FORCE if necessary.

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bh2 Dec 27, 2017 5:52 PM Permalink

"...there is a belief among some congressional investigators that the Russians who provided information to Steele were using Steele to disrupt the American election as much as the Russians who distributed hacked Democratic Party emails."Since the emails could not have been hacked from the server by the Russians (according to Binny the download speeds are impossible across the internet), it naturally follows that anyone who still believes this myth is willfully ignorant.

johand inmywallet BarkingCat Dec 27, 2017 6:40 PM Permalink

Not that many tons!If you don't want to read the article and forensic evidence, 23 meg data transfer, transocean does not exist of 2 gig in 87 seconds. It does not exist locally, maybe now it does in certain point to point nodes only, but not through an IP."The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds.What is the maximum achievable speed? Forensicator recently ran a test download of a comparable data volume (and using a server speed not available in 2016) 40 miles from his computer via a server 20 miles away and came up with a speed of 11.8 megabytes per second—half what the DNC operation would need were it a hack. Other investigators have built on this finding. Folden and Edward Loomis say a survey published August 3, 2016, by www.speedtest.net/reports is highly reliable and use it as their thumbnail index. It indicated that the highest average ISP speeds of first-half 2016 were achieved by Xfinity and Cox Communications. These speeds averaged 15.6 megabytes per second and 14.7 megabytes per second, respectively. Peak speeds at higher rates were recorded intermittently but still did not reach the required 22.7 megabytes per second.“A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.” Last week Forensicator reported on a speed test he conducted more recently. It tightens the case considerably. “Transfer rates of 23 MB/s (Mega Bytes per second) are not just highly unlikely, but effectively impossible to accomplish when communicating over the Internet at any significant distance,” he wrote. “Further, local copy speeds are measured, demonstrating that 23 MB/s is a typical transfer rate when using a USB–2 flash device (thumb drive).”https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-abo…

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Herdee Dec 27, 2017 5:48 PM Permalink

They just gave a bunch of suckers and con artists a lot of fucking bullshit. They wanted something they could use in a scheme to rig the election for Hillary. They'd believe anything.