Atrocity Porn And Hitler Memes Target Trump For Regime Change

Authored by James George Jatras via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

American and global audiences have been bombarded with media images of wailing children in holding facilities, having been separated from adults (maybe their parents, maybe not) detained for illegal entry into the United States. The images have been accompanied by “gut-wrenching” audio of distraught toddlers screaming the Spanish equivalents of “Mommy!” and “Daddy!” – since, as any parent knows, small children never cry or call for their parents except in the most horrifying, life-threatening circumstances.

American and world media have provided helpful color commentary, condemning the caging of children as openly racist atrocities and state terrorism comparable to Nazi concentration camps and worse than FDR’s internment of Japanese and Japanese-Americans. Indeed, just having voted for Trump is now reason enough for Americans to be labeled as Nazis.

Finally, the presumptive Hitler himself, also known as President Donald Trump, citing the pleas of First Lady Melania and First Daughter Ivanka, signed an Executive Order to provide for adults and (their?) children to be detained together. However, the order is unlikely to hold up in court, with sanctuary-minded states aiming to obstruct border enforcement the way Trump’s earlier order on vetting arrivals from terrorism-prone countries has been crippled by the federal judiciary. His media and bipartisan political opposition will be happy only when all border violation detentions cease and America has gone full Merkel, starting with ending Trump’s declared zero tolerance for illegal crossings and restoration of Barack Obama’s catch-and-release policy.

Even then, Trump will be vilified for taking so long to do it. Whether or how Trump may yield further is not clear, but rather than slaking the hate campaign against him, his attempted effort at appeasement has put the smell of political blood in the water with the November 2018 Congressional midterm elections looming.

Some images of small children have become veritable icons of Trumpian brutality. One photo, reportedly of a two-year-old Honduran girl (who in fact had not been separated from her mother), graced the cover of Time magazine, confronting the black-hearted tyrant himself. Another, of a little boy in a cage, went viral before it was revealed that this kid had nothing to do with the border but rather was briefly inside a staged pen as part of a protest in Dallas.

The reality behind the pictures doesn’t matter, though. More important are the images themselves and their power, along with dishonest media spin, to produce an emotional response that short-circuits critical thinking.

Never mind what the facts are! Children are suffering! Trump is guilty! We need to “do something”!

On point of comparison, let’s remember the  saturation media distribution given in 2016 to a picture of a little boyOmran Daqneesh, said to have been pulled from the rubble of Aleppo after what was dubiously reported as a Russian airstrike. Promptly dubbed “Aleppo Boy,” his pathetic dusty image immediately went viral in every prestige outlet in the United States and Europe. The underlying message: we – the “international community,” “the Free World,” the United States, you and I – must “do something” to stop Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his main backer and fellow Hitler clone Vladimir Putin.

(Not long before, another little boy, also in the area of Aleppo, was beheaded on video by the “moderate” US-supported jihad terror group Harakat Nour al-Din al-Zenki. The images of his grisly demise received far less media attention than those of official Aleppo Boy. This other youngster received no catchy moniker. No one called for anyone in power to “do something.” In fact, western support for the al-Zenki murderers – which the Obama administration refused to disavow even after the beheading and allegations of chlorine gas use by al-Zenki – can itself be seen as part of “doing something” about the evil, evil Assad. (Reportedly Trump’s viewing the beheading video led to a cutoff of CIA aid to some jihad groups.) Another small detail readily available in alternative media but almost invisible in the major outlets: Mahmoud Raslan, the photographer who took the picture of Aleppo Boy and disseminated it to world acclaim, also took a smiling selfie with the beaming al-Zenki beheaders of the other kid. But, hey, says Raslan, I barely know those guys. Now let’s move on . . . )

For those who have been paying attention for the past couple of decades, the Trump border crisis kids, like Aleppo Boy before them, are human props in what is known as 'atrocity porn' designed to titillate the viewers through horror and incite them to hatred of the presumed perpetrators. Atrocity propaganda has long been a part of warfare – think World War I claims of Belgian babies impaled on German bayonets – but with modern digital technology and social media the impact is immediate and universal.

It’s irrelevant whether what is identified in images corresponds to reality. What matters is their ability to evoke mindless, maudlin emotionalism, like MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow choking up in tears over the border children or the similar weepy display in 2016 by CNN’s Kate Bolduan over Aleppo Boy.  

Now being deployed in an American domestic context over whether or not the US should be allowed to control its borders, for decades atrocity porn has been essential for selling military action in wars of choice unconnected to the actual defense of the US: incubator babies (Kuwait/Iraq); the Racak massacre (Kosovo); the Markale marketplace bombings, Omarska “living skeletons,” and the Srebrenica massacre (Bosnia); rape as calculated instrument of war (Bosnia, Libya); and false flag poison gas attacks in Ghouta  and Douma (Syria). Never mind that the facts, to the extent they eventually become known, may later turn out to be very different from the categorical black-and-white accusations on the lips of western officials and given banner exposure within hours if not minutes of the event in question.

Atrocity porn dovetails closely with another key meme, that of Hitler-of-the-month. In painting Trump as der Führer on the border, we see coming home to America a ploy that has been an essential element to justify foreign regime change operation, each of which has been spelled out in terms of black-and-white, good-versus-evil Manichaean imperatives, with the side targeted for destruction or replacement having absolutely no redeeming qualities. This entails first of all absolute demonization of the evil leader in what is called reductio ad Hitlerum, a concept attributed to philosopher Leo Strauss in 1951. Russia’s Vladimir Putin has been characterized by name as another Hitler by Hillary Clinton and others. Among the prominent “Hitlers” since 1991 have been Saddam Hussein (Iraq), Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavia/Serbia), Radovan Karadzic (Republika Srpska), Moammar Qaddafi (Libya), and Bashar al-Assad (Syria), with less imposing Führer figures to be found in Mohamed Farrah Aidid (Somalia), Manuel Noriega (Panama), Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran), and Omar al-Bashir (Sudan).

With apologies to Voltaire, if Hitler had not existed it would be necessary for the US-UK Deep State to invent him . . .

Today the atrocity porn and Hitler memes that have been so useful in justifying regime change in other countries are being directed with increasing intensity against America’s own duly elected president. This is at a time when the original conspiracy to discredit and unseat him, the phony “Russian collusion” story, is in the process of unraveling and being turned back on its originators. Horror of horrors, Trump is now feeling free enough to move forward on a meeting with Putin.

Keep in mind that Putin is, according to Hillary Clinton, leader of the worldwide “authoritarian, white-supremacist, and xenophobic movement” who is “emboldening right-wing nationalists, separatists, racists, and even neo-Nazis.” So he and Hitler-Trump should get on famously! The prospect of any warming of ties between Washington and Moscow has elements of the US intelligence agencies, together with their British coconspirators in MI6 and GCHQin an absolute panic.

That’s why desperate measures are in order. As noted earlier, when confronted with a reincarnation of the most evil personage in history, even the most extreme actions cannot be ruled out. Demonizing the intended target neutralizes objections to his removal – by any means necessary.

After all, how can any decent person oppose getting rid of Hitler?

Comments

Is-Be tmosley Sat, 06/23/2018 - 23:47 Permalink

His crime was to successfully run an economy without borrowing money from the Banksters.

And so there was a war and bad things happened. Schlock horror!!

How many wars do we have to have before we realize that there is no way to kill nicely? A bullet in the back of the head is about as nice as it gets.

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LiteBeeer IridiumRebel Sun, 06/24/2018 - 01:43 Permalink

Hitler was Catholic. He had an islamic SS brigade. Shaking hands with the Mufti and the Pope.

Quran/Muhammed v.s. Mein Kampf/Hitler

Jews being reprobate, lying, denying and cursing Jesus as usual.

The Papacy stirring all up in the background and innocent as a dudied baby diaper as always.

The victims were German Christian man tortured and dead while German Christian woman and girls were and are still raped. By the Allies, Russians, Mongols from Asia, guest worker Turks, immigrants from Balkans and recent jihadi invaders from ME, Africa and Turkey, all since 73 years.

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inosent LiteBeeer Sun, 06/24/2018 - 02:26 Permalink

With respect to the cartoon, the physical evidence entirely refutes the claim that 6,000,000 'jews' were killed in any camps, anywhere in the world, but particularly anywhere in either Germany or Poland from approximately 1942 through April 1945.

The FACTS are in, someone already did the research. Please read the Rudolf Report, free pdf, online. In it, the author, concludes there is no evidence that zyklon B was used to kill anybody, there were no human gas chambers, and there was no capacity to cremate millions of people, for many obvious reasons.

The jew holocaust is a LIE and a MYTH, and only the weakest minds believe it. FEW have actually studied the FACTS, but oh are they SURE it happened!

Every 'fact' the 'jew' or holohoax believers float to support the claim have all been refuted.

The jew holohoax was and is pure propaganda to advance the interests and sustain the power grip of the luciferians. And We the People - er, Idiots - fell/fall for the luciferian lies hook, line and sinker.

#sad

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Escrava Isaura inosent Sun, 06/24/2018 - 02:31 Permalink

 

tmosley: Hitler did nothing wrong.

Your ignorance of history is astonishing, but not surprising. Hitler was the biggest Christian bigot ever to live followed by the Crusaders. American right-wingers are not too far behind.

 

Is-Be: His crime was to successfully run an economy without borrowing money from the Banksters.

That wasn’t a crime.

Hitler, politically speaking, is to the left of Trump. But, does it make Hitler a left? No, because left are not nationalists. Nationalism is a right wing product, so was Hitler and Germany in the 30’s.

The reason that there’s such confusion, starting with you, it’s because the left ‘socialists’ lost to the capitalists after WW2, and capitalist are heavily propagandists, they have too. Capitalists lie thought their teeth. Only religion can lie, and get away with, better than capitalists. So, the capitalist to have any credibility, they created their own left to distract the general population of their right-wing ideology. Here’s how it works:

Hitler vs. Trump, INTERNAL policies.

If you look at Hitler, Hitler was a POLITICAL FASCIST, meaning, Hitler cares about jobs so he spent heavily on Germany. Hitler wasn’t looking for profits, for the economic side. Hitler even created another currency to bypass the German Mark (private money). Hitler cared about the welfare of the German people, such as in job creation (military buildup, Volkswagen, autobahn), public healthcare, and public education. Even land had no rights. Land to be expropriate for public utilities.

Trump is the opposite. TRUMP IS AN ECONOMIC FASCIST.

Hitler did favor usury and government to benefit the state, meaning the German people.

Trump favors usury and privatization to benefit private power, meaning the wealth Americans. Even the tax cuts by Trump, that for most Americans expire in 2024, for the rich, Trump’s tax cuts never expire.

 

holdbuysell: All Wars are Bankers Wars.

Misleading cliché, and wrong. Most wars are nations living beyond their means. Christians and Jews in the west, and Japan on the east, are the biggest (offenders of living beyond one’s mean) danger to WW wars, because they, to avoid a civil war, will blame somebody else (the rest of the world) once they fail within.

 

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MK ULTRA Alpha kbohip Sun, 06/24/2018 - 04:23 Permalink

BUILD THE WALL is now a national defense slogan and it is now of paramount importance for the security of this nation.

The future president of Mexico has demanded and threatened a human wave invasion of the US, he has stated Mexicans and all immigrants have God given right to cross the US border and settle in the US. There are over 30 million illegals in this nation, over two million are crossing the border. But I have to submit to draconian martial law measures because of terrorism? The police are rude and the FBI are liars, it's real bad, but the left demands we have open borders?

It's around 2.5 million flowing across now, but when the new Mexican president begins his determined operation to flood the US with Cuban, South Americans, Central American, Mexican and paid for transit for gangs, drug cartel and Chinese flowing over and under the border, will the left continue the outrageous destructive policy of open borders? At what point is enough enough?

Another thing what would Mexico look like if over 30 million English speaking people were settled in Mexico. Furthermore, those born to illegal parents or came across on the ride over, no fault of their own, the Obama DACA plan is to give amnesty to this wave of illegals. It encourages the invasion and more police state spending, loss of more freedom and wages. I am living in a martial law police state and the police state is pumping in the threat to me, thus, the police state is a threat and the armies they are sending against me is a threat to my family and everything, values, culture etc. Trump should ask Pelosi and Shumer to better explain the goal of Cultural Marxism and the real objective of the left and open borders. It's not just votes as Trump believes, it's the destruction of our culture and values, we're being displaced.

DACA with chain migration means automatic citizenship for the parents. Its' a massive amnesty. The left refuses to solve the problem spinning lies to obstruct.

In a compromise, the DACA kids can be given a path to citizenship, but legal immigration has to be halted for four years to make up for the huge number of DACA amnesty and lets end the lotto and chain migration.

BUILD THE WALL AND DIDN'T ANYONE HEAR ABOUT THE BORDER PATROL AGENT SHOT UP ON A BORDER ASSIGNMENT, SAVED HIM SELF BECAUSE HE WAS A PARAMEDIC. THE LEFT LIES AND HAS NO HONOR. THE BORDER SHOOTING OF THE BORDER PATROL AGENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG STORY, BUT WHAT WE GOT WAS THREE WEEKS AGO, THE KILLING OF A YOUNG  GIRL WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON THE BORDER.

The border patrol agent was shot up about two weeks ago.

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Leakanthrophy MK ULTRA Alpha Sun, 06/24/2018 - 06:18 Permalink

The left is so bad at meme-ing , is cringy.

Leave that to the pros:

https://www.askideas.com/media/48/Think-I-Cant-Get-Mexico-To-Fund-The-W…

https://pics.esmemes.com/ifiguredout-how-trump-will-build-the-wall-capi…

https://twitter.com/DailyWestNews/status/829358508592205824

 

Mother, should I run for president?
Mother, should I trust the government?

Mother, do you think they'll try to break my balls?
Ooh, aah, mother, should I build the wall?

                                 Donald J. Trump fans, Pink Floyd (Mother)

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FEDbuster Leakanthrophy Sun, 06/24/2018 - 12:33 Permalink

Fuck "the Wall", bring Ma Deuce to the border about a thousand of them.  One warning shot, then let her rip.  That would end the border jumping really quick.  Time for fucking around is long over, this is an invasion.  BTW, the left and MSM is now rebranding illegals as "refugees".  String up some barb wire to form a line, then build 100 foot towers with .50 cal machine guns on each one, 24/7 shifts.

 

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fleur de lis tmosley Sun, 06/24/2018 - 13:05 Permalink

Would someone please explain to me why Johnny Boy has never been held to account for his open associations with the Syrian freedom fighters/serial killers?

There is more than enough evidence tying them to civilian atrocities and public executions of captured Syrian servicemen.

No one has ever publicly questioned his affection for groups that shoot captured women and decapitate captured children.

Now we all know that he is a Deep State buddy, a favorite of the Langley psychos, and the "maverick" tag really only means "monkey wrench."

But even the Deep Staters and Langley psychos must stop and think that he has gone just a wee bit over the line, even by their subterranean standards.

After all, he does have the limelight which psychos generally tend to avoid.

Granted, the White Helmets are vicious killers, but that is their .gov job and why they justify their .gov paychecks.

Still, there is no good reason for him to given a pass just because he got shot down over Vietnam.

Lots of other men got shot down and none of them felt the need to fraternize with serial killers, and unlike Johnny Boy, they managed to retain a sense of honor during captivity and afterwards.

 

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tmosley JonNadler Sun, 06/24/2018 - 08:49 Permalink

The jews were behind the communist revolt that almost destroyed Germany during the Weimar Republic, just like they were behind the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. Everywhere they go, they are a single nation aligned against their host nation. As enemy agents in a time of war, they had to be put into camps, just like the Japanese had to be put into camps in the US after the Nihau Incident proved that their loyalty was to their ethnicity first over their home country.

And the concentration camps were not meant to kill anyone. People only died there after the Allies started bombing the supply lines which kept food and delousing chemicals from reaching the camps. Epidemic typhus followed. A disease that we have forgotten. Killed maybe a quarter of a million. Killed guards too. The intention was to deport them. But back then people had sense and didn't want the rascals, so the plan became to establish a new homeland for them in Madagascar. The Germans lost before they could make it a reality. Then the REAL Holocaust happened. Ike's death camps are what REAL extermination camps look like. Open pits where people are left to die of starvation and exposure. The jew-owned media doesn't talk about that. Millions died there.

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Escrava Isaura NidStyles Sun, 06/24/2018 - 09:18 Permalink

 

tmosley: The jews were behind the communist revolt…….

 

Exactly, because all three Abrahamic religions are bad, real bad. However, Christianity manages to be the worst. How can you tell?

The Book of Revelation, apocalyptic end of humanity.

 

Even that the Jewish bible is bad, the Jews have an exit, because, in their bible, when the Messiah comes, there won’t be any more wars.

 

Even the Quran, which is basically the Hebrew Bible, believe in salvation for humanity as well.

 

The Christians don’t.

 

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JonNadler tmosley Sun, 06/24/2018 - 16:44 Permalink

you're read what exactly? David Duke's history guide to the Holocaust? I happened to have read quite  a bit on it. To say Auschwitz was not a killing camp? OK, believe what you will. Höss confessed to the killing of hundreds of thousands at least, as did others. There are witnesses, there were 3,000,000 million jews in Poland who dissaperaed. But of course Hoss was made to say that by the Mossad I am sure, the Mossad made it look like it happened.  I mean you can talk to somebody who has a conspiracy theory for everything

 

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Demologos tmosley Sun, 06/24/2018 - 12:00 Permalink

Nazi economic policy was to use the people in the camps as slave labor. That's why large factories (Thyssen, Krupp, I.G. Farben, etc.) were located adjacent to the camps. The architect of the Nazi economic policy was Hjalmar Schacht who was spared at Nuremberg and brought to the U.S. to influence the Chicago School of economic theory. This is the source of fascism that we see in Wall Street and Fed policies.

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Escrava Isaura JonNadler Sun, 06/24/2018 - 08:49 Permalink

JonNadler Escrava, you call Hitler a Christian and then you accuse others of being ignorant.

Nadler, there’s this thing called the INTERNET, that, if you search RELIGIOUS VIEWS OF HITLER, you would get over 22 millions entry/results.

Here’re some examples:  

 

Positive Christianity (German: Positives Christentum) was a movement within Nazi Germany which mixed ideas of racial purity and Nazi ideology with elements of Christianity. Hitler used the term in Article 24[1] of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, stating: "the Party represents the standpoint of Positive Christianity".

Hitler identified himself as a Christian in an April 12, 1922 speech.[4] Hitler also identified himself as a Christian in Mein Kampf.

 

Second, In 1933, prior to the annexation of Austria into Germany, the population of Germany was approximately 67% Protestant and 33% Catholic; while the Jewish population was less than 1%.

 

Third, To deny the influence of Christianity on Hitler and its role in World War II, means that you must ignore history and forever bar yourself from understanding the source of German anti-Semitism and how the WWII atrocities occurred.

By using historical evidence of Hitler's and his henchmen's own words, this section aims to show how mixing religion with politics can cause conflicts, not only against religion but against government and its people. This site, in no way, condones Nazism, Neo-Nazism, fascist governments, or anti-Semitism, but instead, warns against them. by Jim Walker

 

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JonNadler Escrava Isaura Sun, 06/24/2018 - 09:46 Permalink

Escrava, Escrava

You would enjoy playing the intellectual without a clue to what you're talking about

Did Jesus say rape your enemies? Did Paul or the other apostles give any indication that what Hitler did would be OK? Killing the innocent, bombing cities to ruin in countries they were not at war with, Yes he was  chistian

 

Some people here hate jews and the bankers so much that the lose any sense of balance or proprtion. Get a grip

 

I blame the banker for what they do, not for what my rabid imagination conjures up

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Escrava Isaura JonNadler Sun, 06/24/2018 - 13:02 Permalink

Nadler,

Intellect, for the most part, is a handicap, because they reflect the interest of power, not to spread knowledge or curiosity.

Vast majority of intellects, especially in the third world, exaggerate things, confuses things, because they like to sound and look radical while totally disassociate from the real world, because most people don’t understand what they’re saying, like a private lingo.

 

I can’t blame them, these false prophets, to sounding radical, because they’re well compensate by going to conferences and becoming professors.  

 

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nmewn Escrava Isaura Sun, 06/24/2018 - 08:10 Permalink

lol...geeebus Escrava, where to begin, here is a good a place as any I guess...

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"If you look at Hitler, Hitler was a POLITICAL FASCIST, meaning, Hitler cares about jobs so he spent heavily on Germany. Hitler wasn’t looking for profits, for the economic side. Hitler even created another currency to bypass the German Mark (private money). Hitler cared about the welfare of the German people, such as in job creation (military buildup, Volkswagen, autobahn), public healthcare, and public education. Even land had no rights. Land to be expropriate for public utilities.

Trump is the opposite. TRUMP IS AN ECONOMIC FASCIST.

Hitler did favor usury and government to benefit the state, meaning the German people.

Trump favors usury and privatization to benefit private power, meaning the wealth Americans. Even the tax cuts by Trump, that for most Americans expire in 2024, for the rich, Trump’s tax cuts never expire."

_____________________

...try as you might to create distinctions (or is it parallels you were going for?) between fascism & national-socialism all you do is solidify the facts that fascism is still a form of socialism ie Marxism so therefore cannot be associated with anything conservative or "rightwing" or capitalism or free & fair markets as you cannot have free/fair markets when you have government subsidizing windmills, solar panels, cars etc because it places the free marketers at a distinct disadvantage by design.  

But lets turn to a real bonafide national-socialist (a fascist if you will) to find out just what all these terms meant to him and them at the time, shall we? 

"We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state." - Joseph Goebbels, 1933 

Seems pretty clear to me.

What this also means to the common man slave Escrava is, you cannot get Venezuelan (or Brazilian) oil out of the ground with just promises of food, public transportation, healthcare and the like without the common man making a private profit so as to better himself and his family (private profit is to the detriment of the socialist state Escrava) unless of course, you put a gun to his head and force him ;-)

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Bendromeda Strain nmewn Sun, 06/24/2018 - 08:37 Permalink

Not to mention...

No, because left are not nationalists.

Because the left seek to conquer freedom everywhere it exists. But in the meantime they certainly weren't above using nationalism when it suited them, as in "Comrade, we need to you to become cannon fodder for Mother Russia (or we'll shoot you in the back)". They knew that defending the USSR was a nonstarter emotionally. Nationalism is an inbred trait, and trying to destroy it with the multi-cult mentality is part of the  globalist playbook.

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nmewn Bendromeda Strain Sun, 06/24/2018 - 08:57 Permalink

It's just amazing to me how the left can contort itself into an ideological unrecognizable pretzel losing all semblances of any consistent, rational thought pattern. 

For example, the NYT's can nominate a Soviet apologist like Walter Duranty for a Pulitzer Prize (and he win) and then turn feigning shock & appall that Michael Flynn had a discussion with a Russian ambassador and launching into a McCarthyist witch hunt for Reds Under Every Bed (along with peeing Russian prostitutes bouncing on top of them...lol) all the while ignoring the Podesta brothers lack of having registered as foreign agents of Russia while John ran the election campaign of Hillary who is the closest thing to a Joseph Stalin that we have seen since FDR. 

I mean really, it's mind boggling (yet somehow twistedly entertaining to me) just trying to keep up with the streaming logical fallacies of it all ;-)

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Escrava Isaura nmewn Sun, 06/24/2018 - 09:07 Permalink

nmewn: fascism is still a form of socialism……..free & fair markets as you cannot have free/fair markets when you have government subsidizing……..

In which 7-Eleven cashier’s line you learned such non sense?

Core of Capitalism: You and your government work for the owners of capital, the bankers/investors. In capitalism the money is privately issued.

Core of Socialism: The workers, the craftsmen, and the artists own their production, meaning, they are not hourly wage-slave of people with capital. In socialism there are NO EMPLOYEE/EMPLOYER relationship. No bosses. Money to be issued locally, and restrictedly.

Core of Communism: Means of production and money issuance reside within the state, meaning, communism is super-capitalism.

Core of Fascism: When capitalism fails and the owners of the nation can no longer rely on the government for protection.

 

People to Learn ‘Real Socialism’ From:

Ricardo Semler

Mondragon

 

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nmewn Escrava Isaura Sun, 06/24/2018 - 09:21 Permalink

"Core of Socialism: The workers, the craftsmen, and the artists own their production, meaning, they are not hourly wage-slave of people with capital. In socialism there are NO EMPLOYEE/EMPLOYER relationship. No bosses. Money to be issued locally, and restrictedly."

wut?...now even Karl Marx is confused.

So tell me again why a socialist nation like Venezuela (the owners of capital in your scenario above IS the government) can't get it's own oil out of the ground using it's own oil company so as to have the state profit so it's people won't starve and it's currency won't crash? You aren't really saying Venezuela is capitalist nation I hope.  

"Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly."

...Is-Still-Not-Working ;-)

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Escrava Isaura nmewn Sun, 06/24/2018 - 12:30 Permalink

nmewn: So tell me again why a socialist nation like Venezuela (the owners of capital in your scenario above IS the government) can't get it's own oil out of the ground using it's own oil company so as to have the state profit so it's people won't starve and it's currency won't crash?

That has nothing to do with socialism. Venezuela has internal problems as every nation does; however, when talking oil, and oil prices, actually, most commodities, because commodities are priced in dollars, meaning US control, Venezuela, make that Iran, Russia, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, the whole world are TRAPPED IN A EXCHANGE RATE PROBLEM, because the dollars were extracted from those economies. Now these nations have to re-buy dollars, plus the dollars for the interest as well.

 

MEFOBILLS:

Hyperinflation is always an exchange rate problem. Debts do cause exchange rate difficulties. 

 

The Weimar inflation was due to Triangular flow where credit issued was dollars from Wall Street against German Muni Bonds primarily.

 

The credit flowed to municipalities, then ultimately to German central bank.  From there it went to pay reparations for Versailles treaty.  THESE DOLLARS THEN CYCLED OUT OF Germany and into France/Britain for reparations and from there TO THE U.S. TREASURY.  France and England were in dollar DEBT BONDAGE TO THE U.S.

 

Debts then grow with Usury at Wall Street Banks, to ultimately fund the U.S. Treasury.  This put exchange rate pressure on Germany.  Credit dollars sourced in Wall Street and found their way to the treasury.

 

Private banks in GERMANY THEN STARTED HYPOTHECATING NEW DEUTSCHMARKS AGAINST DOLLARS COLLATERAL AS LOANS to short the Mark.  This positive feedback mechanism created yet more shorts leading to a break into hyperinflation as more and more marks were hypothecated into existence.  Exchange rate pressures can cause bear raids of this type, where finance busts out sovereign country.  It is non trivial as people commit suicide.

 

NEVER LET YOUR DEBTS POINT OUTSIDE YOUR LEGAL SYSTEM.  AT ITS MOST FUNDAMENTAL, MONEY IS A DIVISION OF THE LAW. 

 

Why cannot economists understand this?  Why?  They are bought and paid for.

Today, debts are canceled with mark to markets.  Or, debts are canceled with bankruptcy.  PRIVATE DEBTS CAN BE COUNTERED WITH DEFICIT SPENDING from government - hence Keynesianism.

 

CHINA CANCELS DEBTS ALL THE TIME because they have state banks - and this is the key reason why China will always beat the U.S. and the world.  By canceling debts they effectively let their former credit float free - so it begins to act like a Greenback generating non usurious efficiencies in the marketplace. 

 

Initially, the credit loans from Chinese state banks are channeled into production .... that is stealing American Industry with Wall Street’s help.

 

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J S Bach Bendromeda Strain Sun, 06/24/2018 - 09:53 Permalink

When one is aware of the creatures who twist facts and formulate opinions, all of their false propaganda is not only blatantly obvious, but comical.  Alas, most of the human herd is oblivious to these deceptive tricks and mind games.  It is up to us to pound into their heads the true state of affairs and pray that enough of them will take the crucial prodding of truth to come to their own epiphanies.

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Lord Raglan inosent Sun, 06/24/2018 - 10:07 Permalink

I looked online a while back to see how many Jews were in Europe before WWII.  I found that a Census done in 1933 said in all of Europe there were 405,000 Jews at that time.  So in 8 years they went from 405,000 to well over 6 million.  Not even rabbits reproduce that quickly.  And notice the number is always a flat 6 million, never a real number of any kind because there is no real number.  It is all made up.

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earleflorida inosent Sun, 06/24/2018 - 12:09 Permalink

during WWI and Russia's civil war, the hatred for jews was at fever pitch in all Europe, the ussa press/media said *6 million jews will die... immigration

(*Note: The infamous 6 Million was tossed about,... again and again 6 Million--- what's with the number six?)

[and] in the 20s the communist/bolshevik red scares became real...

the fucking socialist/Bolsheviks had all gone to every european port with destination ussa

first England then america

every European country was glad to see them go--- 'they come to america' yeah

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Shemp 4 Victory Mementoil Sun, 06/24/2018 - 08:49 Permalink

 

Funny how everyone on ZH doubts the MSM when it comes to the atrocities in Syria,

You may want to familiarize yourself with the concept of evidence. The atrocities claimed by the MSM and attributed to the Syrian government (chemical weapons, bombing relief convoys, torture and/or mass execution of prisoners, deliberate targeting of civilians) are lacking in evidence. Some are demonstrably fabricated falsifications.

The atrocities in Syria for which evidence exists (chemical weapons, bombing relief convoys, torture and/or mass execution of prisoners, deliberate targeting of civilians) are ignored by the MSM because the evidence points at the US-led coalition of the killing and the terrorist goon squads on the US/Saudi/British/Israeli payroll.

but never in Gaza.

Atrocities in Gaza have been ignored by the MSM for decades except for those occasions when there is so much evidence that it can no longer be swept under the rug. These have become more frequent in recent years due to the ubiquity of cellular phones with video cameras and internet-based news media. No doubt this is the reason behind the recent Israeli law which criminalizes video recording of atrocities committed by the IDF.

Also note that MSM reports of such incidents always minimize their severity and usually include exaggerated accounts of Palestinian "aggression" which, in reality, amount to little more than bottle rockets landing in empty fields.

Hypocrisy much?

You swim in it.

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Mementoil Shemp 4 Victory Sun, 06/24/2018 - 09:30 Permalink

99% of the atrocities claimed by Palestinians are bogus, and have been completely debunked.
The most famous case by far is that of Muhammad al-Durrah, who was alleged by France 2 news to have been killed by the IDF, a claim which was proven as false in a French court.
But false charges like that are brought up almost on a daily basis. Take for instance the case of the Palestinian baby girl which was alleged to have died from tear gas inhalation during the riots which took place a few weeks ago, and now turns out to have died at her home due to a congenital heart defect.

As for all the so called "photographic proof" from Gaza - take a second look at the footage. Time and time again you see youngsters suddenly falling to the ground, as though gunned down by a sniper, but for some reason without a drop of blood on them... Such "evidence" is touted by MSM without questioning it for a moment. Hamas's version of events is always presented as fact, mainly due to the journalists' bias, but also because anyone present in Gaza who questions them puts his or hers life in danger...

As for me, I'm the antithesis of hypocrisy, because unlike yourself I have some consistency. I question the common narrative on any subject, in Syria and Gaza alike, in the halls of the Kremlin and the White house alike. I'm also open to changing my opinion if the facts don't fit my world view, something I seriously doubt you are willing to do.

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