Cops Attempt Gun Confiscation Without Warrant; This New Jersey Man Said "No"

Authored by Mac Slavo via SHTFplan.com,

Police in New Jersey have officially crossed the [thin blue] line and literally attempted to confiscate guns from an army veteran without a warrant.  But it didn’t go as planned, because  Leonard Cottrell Jr. refused to comply with the orders of the cops.

Eventually, all gun confiscation will be carried out by the police; who “don’t make the laws, they just enforce them,” and Cottrell found this out the hard way.  After serving two tours in Operation Iraqi Freedom overseas, Cottrell found himself at end of the state’s tyrannical oppression and gun elimination scheme.

According to The Daily Wire, two police officers were given orders to go to Cottrell’s home to confiscate his guns.  The order followers complied, and “because [Cottrell’s] 13-year-old son had made a comment at school about the Millstone Middle School’s security, and the officers wanted to confiscate Cottrell’s firearms as part of an investigation,” NJ.com reported. But Cottrell disobeyed and defied the orders of the police.

Cottrell legally owns a shotgun and a handgun (not quite a cache of weapons by any stretch of the imagination) but based solely on comments made by his 13-year-old son, police demanded all his guns.  According to the report by The Daily Wire, Cottrell says that his wife let the officers into their home and let them search their sons’ room where they did not find any weapons. But the search didn’t end there. The officers then made attempts to try to take his firearms, which “he has all the correct permits to own.”

“No one from the state was going to take my firearms without due process,” Cottrell said, according to NJ.com.  According to New Jersey law, signed into law Cottrell’s disobedience is “illegal.”  Democrat Governor Phil Murphy a bill that makes it incredibly easy for law enforcement to confiscate firearms without due process and for seemingly any reason the state deems.

Cottrell said that his son is also very upset by the situation.

The teenager did not do anything wrong and the entire situation is being misconstrued and blown up.

“He didn’t do anything wrong, and he doesn’t understand why it happened — he was just having a conversation with nothing as far as threats,” Cottrell said. “It shouldn’t have blown up the way it did. But he understands it happened, there are consequences and there’s fallout from his actions.”

Comments

hedgeless_horseman powow Mon, 07/16/2018 - 22:55 Permalink

 

Cottrell says that his wife let the officers into their home and let them search their sons’ room

Cops are trained how to "obtain" consent to enter, or often lie that they were given verbal consent to enter from a kid, cleaning lady, etc.

Post a sign on your gate or doors, "No Trespassing without WRITTEN CONSENT of the property owner." 

If Cottrell had one of these, then this probably wouldn't have happened, or at least he could sue the cop for trespassing.  

A metal sign screwed onto all of your exterior doors and front gate, and including the citation for your state's trespass code, is probably the best.

And get an intercom so that you do not need to open the door for anyone.

 

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toady 10mm Mon, 07/16/2018 - 23:48 Permalink

So, what happened?

Is my Alzheimers kicking in,  did I miss a paragraph?

He said no, and...

The cops said okay and left?

The cops took the guns anyway?

The cops killed everyone and took the guns anyway?

The dude killed the cops and he's waiting for the lethal injection?

The dude killed the cops and got away with it because he feared for his life during an illegal search and seizure?

Whoever wrote this story missed the money shot?

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wee-weed up toady Mon, 07/16/2018 - 23:58 Permalink

Yeah, good for him...

But not a very informative article.

Unfortunately, the Tylers don't usually address...

Less than complete or confusing...

Articles once they post them.

A fault of this website. :-(

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any_mouse wee-weed up Tue, 07/17/2018 - 00:22 Permalink

Just two LEO's, not a really serious attempt.

Next time, it will be an anti-citizen CQB team breaching the door.

Must not have a family dog. No dog was reported shot.

He better be careful if he ever leaves to house with his firearms. Under NJ law owners are required to notify their local PD that they are moving firearms by vehicle.  Even a C & C firearm.

Left NJ behind me.

Can't even buy an air rifle in NJ.

I figure the initial issue with school security is that, said security being low IQ, antisocial type persons, security personnel pushed the kid into making the comment, then just like TSA, overreacted and overreached, blowing a nothing into something.

If I was in that same situation I would have mouthed off if I was offended by "security". I had issues with questionable authority figures as a youth.

I might have recently muttered under my breath "chemtrails" after being overly harassed by TSA. He noticed, but when asked if I had said "chemtrails", I said "No" and continued walking away.

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Government nee… nmewn Tue, 07/17/2018 - 07:50 Permalink

NEVER talk to cops.  NEVER allow them inside your home.  NEVER leave your home, even if you remain standing on your porch, to speak with cops.  If a warrant is produced, take the time to call your lawyer and have it verified.  remember, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.  If a situation appears to be heading south, take the initiative, shoot first, shoot to kill, leave none alive.  Whenever the shooting starts, it WILL be a fight to the death.  Be the winner.

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glenlloyd toady Tue, 07/17/2018 - 00:23 Permalink

while I would agree that the article is thin on specifics, in response to NJ attempts to "tighten" gun laws I say this:

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

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Ghost who Walks toady Tue, 07/17/2018 - 01:15 Permalink

Here is a more complete version of the story.

https://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2018/07/cops_attempt_to_confiscate_guns_from_army_veteran.html

The Zero Hedge version is missing this ;

He said his wife allowed the officers to enter the home, and with her permission, they searched his son's room -- but they did not find any weapons, he said. The officers, he said, didn't have a warrant but still wanted to take his guns. Cottrell wouldn't let them.  

"No one from the state was going to take my firearms without due process," he said Thursday.

He said the attempted seizure resulted because of a new law Gov. Phil Murphy signed into law that makes it easier for police to confiscate guns when someone in the state poses a threat to themselves or others. The law is part of a broader statewide effort to make New Jersey's gun laws even tougher amid the national outcry for more gun control in the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida.

The U.S. Secret Service said Thursday that schools around the country should establish teams to evaluate potential threats and encourage students to report troubling behavior.

"Snitching is informing on someone for personal gain," the Secret Service said. But students should come forward "when they are worried about a friend who is struggling or when they are trying to keep someone from getting hurt."

Cottrell said the officers "danced around the issue" when he confronted them about the new law. 

A New Jersey State Police spokesman declined to answer questions about whether this incident had anything to do with the new gun laws.

In an email, Sgt. First Class Jeff Flynn said, "Troopers responded to Mr. Cottrell's residence in reference to the report of a possible school threat. Based on their investigation, it was determined that Mr. Cottrell's weapons did not need to be seized."

Cottrell said he was able to work out a deal with the officers that he would remove the guns from his house and keep them outside until the investigation concluded.

His son was not allowed to return to school and was barred from attending graduation, he said.

Millstone school officials did not return a request for comment.

"He's upset," Cottrell said of his son. "He didn't do anything wrong, and he doesn't understand why it happened - he was just having a conversation with nothing as far as threats. It shouldn't have blown up the way it did. But he understands it happened, there are consequences and there's fallout from his actions."

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COSMOS Blano Tue, 07/17/2018 - 04:38 Permalink

Yeah so its up to the cops to decide whether to seize your guns out of the house or not. Too bad they didnt grab them so this law could be challenged all the way to the supreme court.  What if the wife refused to let them in, I am sure they would of kicked the door down because they have a right to seize your guns, correct? If they took your second amendment away then hey can surely kick in your fourth amendment too.  Things are going to the wire folks.  Its not looking pretty.

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Gatto toady Tue, 07/17/2018 - 02:17 Permalink

In an email, Sgt. First Class Jeff Flynn said, "Troopers responded to Mr. Cottrell's residence in reference to the report of a possible school threat. Based on their investigation, it was determined that Mr. Cottrell's weapons did not need to be seized."

Cottrell said he was able to work out a deal with the officers that he would remove the guns from his house and keep them outside until the investigation concluded.

His son was not allowed to return to school and was barred from attending graduation, he said.

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claytonmoore50 hedgeless_horseman Mon, 07/16/2018 - 23:23 Permalink

Law enforcement officers usually swear an oath to uphold the laws of the state and the constitution of the United States, I know I did. I assume these officers swore that oath as well.

That would make those officers oath and law breaking POS!

Those officers need to THINK with their brains, and not simply follow law breaking, civil rights denying orders, like mindless goons.

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