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1 Sievert Water Leaking From Fukushima As Full Body Radiation Checks Begin Across Prefecture

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The story that the world forgot, and that everyone wishes could just be buried under a 10 foot lead plate, not only refuses to go away but is getting worse by the day. The latest news from Fukushima is that the highly radioactive water has started leaking from Reactor #2, into a trench which is located just 180 feet away from the sea, prompting more fears that the most radioactive water recorded to date would soon seep into the ocean. The Telegraph reports: "The water seeping into a trench outside the Number two reactor at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in northeast Japan had a radiation level of more than 1,000 millisieverts per hour." To be expected, here's captain "all is fine" aka TEPCO, to remind us that this is perfectly normal and 1 sievert water is no cause for concern: "we do not believe it is leaking into the ocean. We are now working out where the cause of the leak is and finding ways to remove the water as soon as possible." Luckily, nobody believes the lies out of Japan anymore: "Speculation surrounding the extent to which the radiation may be leaking into the Pacific Ocean was also mounting after tests last weekend found nearby seawater contaminated 1,850 above legal limits." Too bad they still believe the lies out of the US government. And while this recent development is happening, people in Fukushima have finally started getting full body radiation screens from the prefecture.. a move that is about 3 months overdue.

Daily Yomiuri reports: "Fukushima Prefecture began checking the internal radiation dose levels of selected residents Monday, the first step in its plan to examine the health of all its 2 million residents amid the crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant. About 28,000 residents of Namiemachi, Iitatemura and the Yamakiya district of Kawamatacho were to receive the initial checks." Naturally, this is all to make sure that the motor plant workers will be in pristine shape as Japan ramps up production for its car plants to fill "unprecedented record demand"... if one believes the lies emanating every day from the other side of the Pacific. (ignore record GM channel stuffing facts please).

From the Telegraph:

The discovery of the contaminated trench came one day after officials evacuated the turbine building of the Number 2 reactor when puddles of water inside were found to contain 1,000 millisieverts per hour of radioactivity – 100,000 times the normal level.

A temporary meltdown inside the core of the Number 2 reactor was possibly the cause of the building's contaminated water, according to Yukio Edano, the chief government spokesman.

"The radiation seems to have come from the fuel rods that were partially melted down and came into contact with the water used to cool the reactor," he said.

Two nuclear plant workers suffered burns last week after stepping in toxic water but were released on Monday from a specialist radiation medical unit.

Some more lies:

However, nuclear experts said that any radiation leaking into the ocean would most likely pose little threat as it would swiftly dissipate.

"In terms of radiation leaking into the sea, this would be diluted very quickly and there would be no particular risk to fish for example, " Yoshiaki Oka, a professor at Tokyo's Waseda University, told The Telegraph.

And some actual truth:

Confusion and unease have been growing in Japan surrounding the nuclear situation due to a string of conflicting reports, alleged safety blunders and miscalculated figures.

What confusion/unease? All the busy Japanese population wants is to get back to making car parts so the US can pretend its GDP grew at 4% in Q4.

And some worse news:

All of Namiemachi was designated as part of the no-entry zone within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant, while Iitatemura and the Yamakiya district of Kawamatacho were designated as planned evacuation areas. People in planned evacuation areas were asked to leave by the end of May.

Ten men and women, aged from 31 to 67, visited the National Institute for Radiological Sciences in Chiba on Monday. They were examined with a whole body counter (WBC) to check internal radiation levels throughout their bodies, and received urine checks in the afternoon.

A total of 120 people, chosen randomly from the three municipalities, will receive such examinations. Based on the institute's findings, the prefectural government plans to establish simple methods to check dosages of internal radiation, a Fukushima prefectural official said.

Most of the remaining residents of the three municipalities will be checked through statistical estimations using questionnaires.

They will be asked what they did and where they went, for instance, after March 11, and based on their responses, the prefecture will estimate the amounts of radiation suspected to have accumulated inside their bodies.

Well, it is always better to estimate than to know for sure.

We eagerly await to see GM's June car sales number to see what the level of dealer stuffing at the once bankrupt-always bankrupt car company will be, just so we can easily debunk more BS from the lemming goon squad.

This is what GM's month end dealer inventory looked like recently:

 

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Tue, 06/28/2011 - 15:57 | 1409782 Cognitive Dissonance
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If someone is wearing a suspiciously firm adult diaper during the screenings will they be considered a hazardous waste dump and immediately buried at sea with Osama? And will they be made to remove the diaper before burial?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Wait......this isn't a TSA operation so all incontinent Japanese citizens should be OK for now. Unless they are radiated that is.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:03 | 1409801 macholatte
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If someone is wearing a suspiciously firm adult diaper during the screenings will they be considered a hazardous waste dump......

oh the irony.....

Pissing Radioactive Urine
http://www.businessinsider.com/residents-near-fukushima-are-pissing-radioactive-urine-2011-6
 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:17 | 1410049 gmrpeabody
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Must have been a drive-by junking.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:01 | 1410255 Fukushima Sam
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"More than 3 millisieverts of radiation has been measured in the urine of 15 Fukushima residents of the village of Iitate and the town of Kawamata, confirming internal radiation exposure, it was learned Sunday"

This is internal radiation!  These people are fucked!  Or should I say "Fukued"!

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:25 | 1410303 Cdad
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Does this mean that the Japanese automobile renaissance is not on?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:37 | 1410415 Aristarchan
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Three millisieverts internal is small-time stuff. Hell, you get around 13 - 60 millisieverts a year (depending on where the tobacco was grown) from smoking 30 cigarrettes a day. You can get 3 millisieverts from background smoke if you work in a  bar in japan.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:10 | 1410462 Harlequin001
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and only a couple hundred from drinking the ice in your Martini...

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 23:53 | 1410711 SparkySC
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Mothra!

Wed, 06/29/2011 - 00:40 | 1410773 Fukushima Sam
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Typically these readings are per hour.  At least that is what my geiger counter measures in.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:09 | 1409813 spekulatn
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Well done, CD.

 

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:43 | 1409925 hedgeless_horseman
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Click on photo for video from today where physicist Dr. Michio Kaku discusses concerns with the Los Alamos National Laboratory and the wildfires threatening it now.

Kaku said around 20,000 to 30,000 barrels of plutonium contaminated waste is stored at the lab. That waste includes everything from gloves to fuel rods, according to Kaku. 

 

“Plutonium is one of the most toxic particles known to science. A particle you can’t even see lodged in your lungs could cause lung cancer,” Kaku said. “What we’re worried about is what happens when the fires go right into these buildings and perhaps pop open some of these 55-gallon drums.”

http://www.koat.com/news/28386019/detail.html

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:11 | 1410030 metastar
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We can just dump seaxxx river water onto the fires.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:12 | 1410466 Harlequin001
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well all the helicopters that dropped water somewhere near Fukushima were designed for this job.

Let's hope they're better shots this time...

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:16 | 1410048 fuu
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Between Los Alamos and Ft Calhoun things are not looking good on the home nuke front.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:18 | 1410051 augie
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I just bought a Geiger counter last night. Feeling a little less psychotic now. 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:21 | 1410063 fuu
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Nice. I should get one of those considering my city is bracketed by 2 plants. One just got approval for another 20 years.

 

We do get free Iodide pills though.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:22 | 1410189 Cognitive Dissonance
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Yeah.......but only when they say you need them.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:36 | 1410059 gangland
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add NJ to that list?

"Salem 2 nuclear plant is under "hot-shutdown" mode and under investigation after a cooling pump failure caused it to close Monday according to Associated Press."

http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/nj-salem-2-nuclear-reac...

 

and read this on calhoun:

http://localtalknews.com/home-page-columnists/marvin-wolf/923-what-the-f...

 

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:31 | 1410201 trav7777
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Everyone will be expecting me to say don't panic, stop the hysteria and all that....but if Los Alamos catches on fire, yes, definitely panic.

Pack your bugout ranch up and carry it somewhere else.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:46 | 1410436 majia
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which way do you think the wind will blow Trav?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:48 | 1410514 XenoFrog
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If a big complex of concrete/brick buildings without any groundcover or trees around them catch fire, we should definitely panic.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:18 | 1409844 Cdad
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Ah Fukushima.  Remember Fukushima?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:15 | 1409857 max2205
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Oh, but, there's a shitload of people who believe everthing is just peachy

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:30 | 1410200 trav7777
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What's a sievert or two between friends?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:51 | 1410438 Aristarchan
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I told my wife that sleeping with her in the same bed was dosing me at about .02 millisieverts a year....which I don't need. She suggested that having any form of sex with me was pretty much an internal injection of radioactive effluvia that could be minimized by a 1/2" thick polyethylene rubber. I am not sure if this is a health concern with her, or some kinky attempt to resize me.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:29 | 1410480 Cognitive Dissonance
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I wouldn't worry until she starts talking about having sex with you and her peeps. Then I might start asking some questions. Until then just go with the flow.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:54 | 1410523 Aristarchan
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Flow. You just don't give up do ya.......All my spermatazoa wear shades, but they swim like hippos.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:56 | 1410142 Ying-Yang
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I all depends... CD... it all depends.

I love to start the day with a hike and I’m not about to let my condition stop me. Now that I’ve found Depend® Underwear for Men in Prints and Colors, I can explore new paths with confidence – I know I’m protected from leaks and I look good. After all, when you’re hiking it’s all about being prepared.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 22:49 | 1410613 Let em push you...
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I want to hear 5 minutes of Obama speech describing the different variations of "firmness as regards adult diapers and TSA screenings.  Replete with reflective, academic pauses and occasional hand gestures.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 15:51 | 1409783 hugovanderbubble
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My best wishes for Japanese population , Honestly they are a great example of order and calm vs adversity.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:05 | 1409804 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I would agree if they had orderly filed out of the building, but they have failed to exit, and they wallow in radioactive filth.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:10 | 1409815 Manthong
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Oh hell, this is appropriate and good for another post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:08 | 1410259 Fukushima Sam
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They seem to be a great example of sheeple waiting in line to be slaughtered.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 15:52 | 1409786 Jack Mehoff
Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:09 | 1409827 DriveByLurker
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Thanks; that helps to put things in perspective.   In this instance, it helps us to see that 1 sievert/hour is no worse than getting 200,000 chest x-rays an hour, or a full abdomen CT scan every 20 seconds for an hour.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:42 | 1409952 AnAnonymous
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Depends on your  health insurance. Big bills...

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 15:57 | 1409787 aint no fortuna...
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But, but its not in the news anymore. It must have been fixed!

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 15:57 | 1409789 pazmaker
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oredr and calm?...or do you mean trust and obey?  It appears to me this "order and Calm" is what will be their doom.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 15:58 | 1409790 nodoctor
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Tyler

Where did/do you get the 584K number? Ward's Automotive Reports claims 565K.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:08 | 1409824 Tyler Durden
Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:17 | 1409862 max2205
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When do those cars really go on a fire sale or will they just go to the next BK creditors?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:49 | 1410233 Hephasteus
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They won't go anywhere. Cars have Electronic Control Modules. You know fancy little cpu's that run the fuel injection system and pulse width modulate the brakes and all kinds of fancy stuff. Well those cpu's die in radiation. By january 2012 a new car under warranty will require a boat load of fixing and your car will die from probability wacking it out while driving it. Planes and trains will fall out of the sky, run off the tracks and crash and burn. And military forget about it.

What did I say a couple months ago.? If you rely on nuclear power and cpu's to be a badass then you can forget about it before long. Hell by october you'll be able to sink a battleship or aircraft carrier with a row boat and fully charged makita drill. But you won't here the real reasons for quite some time on the MSM. It'll be a "gremlins" did it response.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:27 | 1409896 Cdad
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Shit Tyler,

The BlowHorn just reminded me of the obvious catalyst directly ahead for all those channel stuffed GM cars that have been piling up for months.

Transformers 3!

Now I am probably going to have to eat crow for calling on Doug Kass to finally reverse his call on getting long GM shares.

Nuts!

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:30 | 1409903 Cognitive Dissonance
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May I suggest you serve that cold crow with some grapes of wrath for a hearty evening snack? You need to be ready for tomorrow's Greek vote.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:22 | 1410055 gmrpeabody
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Ah yes, crow.., a dish best served cold.

That is crow..., isn't it?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:40 | 1410083 Cdad
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I hear you, brother Cog,

And I am feeling dissonance.  Transformers 3 movie, the dissolution of the Euro, Transformers, EU dominoes.  Can't quite figure it out.

Then again, without Megan Fox's firmness stretched out over a Camaro big block, maybe my Transformer theory is off the  mark.

But with everyone flipping from end of the world bearish to snorting bull [at the top of an incredibly over extended two day S&P move], and Microsoft shares moving as if they were a bio tech company that just cured Cancer, who could know anything, really?

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:36 | 1410206 Cognitive Dissonance
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Not THAT is radioactive.

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:23 | 1410298 Buck Johnson
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She was fired (Megan Fox) from the Transformer dark side of the moon for saying that Bay the director was Hitler.  Spielberg wanted her gone and she's gone, good luck in hollywood.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:27 | 1410307 Cdad
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Yeah, but do you see the firmness?

Thanks, brother Cog.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:53 | 1410234 trav7777
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The Greece vote is about as irrelevant as the Transformers Movie...whether or not the Greeks vote for self-destruction is immaterial; it's coming anyway.

They've spent more than they produced...if the banksters take a haircut, it won't matter; austerity this way comes nonetheless

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:32 | 1410490 NuckingFuts
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edit

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 15:55 | 1409794 Stoploss
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Now must be the time to move the potassium iodide tablets to the front of the shelf.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:04 | 1409811 Tuco Benedicto ...
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True dangers are from cesium, strontium 90, plutonium .....!  This is not just about Japan!  This is a eugenisists wet dream!

 

Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:13 | 1409829 cossack55
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Was that you, Tuco, who erected the Georgia Guidestones. 

Cool.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 15:59 | 1409795 Frank N. Beans
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A temporary meltdown inside the core of the Number 2 reactor was possibly the cause of the building's contaminated water

So it's transitory.

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:16 | 1409849 Cognitive Dissonance
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I saw that as well and found it to be a shining example of Newspeak. A reactor core can only melt down once. After that it is reclassified as a disassembled core lying at the bottom of the containment structure. So the core was only temporarily in a state of meltdown.

Bravo Ministry of Newspeak, British news reporter repeater division.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:55 | 1410238 trav7777
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I took it to mean the core melted back up, and then refroze into pristine fuel rods.

See, when I said don't panic, I meant it.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 23:32 | 1410685 malek
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+1 fuel rod

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:05 | 1410025 fuu
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Beat me to it.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:00 | 1409797 OpenEyes
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Thanks, Tyler, for posting this update.  Oddly, I was just wondering about Fukushima and what the latest from there was just about an hour ago.  

by the way, I seriously wish the best for the people of Japan.  Such a terrible catastrophe in every way.

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:11 | 1409834 cossack55
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If you wish to open your eyes even further, visit www.enenews.com and fulfill your wish.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:45 | 1409944 OpenEyes
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Thanks for that link Cossack, great site.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:00 | 1409798 JohnG
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"A temporary meltdown inside the core of the Number 2 reactor was possibly the cause of the building's contaminated water, according to Yukio Edano, the chief government spokesman."

 

Just what the fuck is a temporary meltdown?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:14 | 1409832 DonutBoy
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The fuel rods melt, begin dripping to the floor of the containment, cool, and resolidify.  That's what a temporary meltdown is.  That's not necessarily what's happening. 

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:01 | 1410144 Citxmech
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a/k/a:  "Bullshit."

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 15:57 | 1409799 InconvenientCou...
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Keep an eye on those live birth rates and deformities.

Can a culture's ability to ignore things, lead to its extinction? I'm here to say, it most certainly can.

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:17 | 1409840 cossack55
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As in the increased infant mortality rate in the Pacific Northwest?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:56 | 1410242 trav7777
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we have pavlovian PC types right here who demonstrate that every day

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:03 | 1409802 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Swan Lake: Japan

Industry is done.  Humanity is finished.  The survivors will flee, and with them memories dear.  The land will last forever, but only in a tear.

http://lhmarketwatch.blogspot.com/2011/04/swan-lake-japan.html

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:05 | 1409812 ReallySparky
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I know someone at GM, back before the bailout, they used to obsess constantly about dealer back log.  They used to lay off plant workers when inventories got to 90 days.  Not anymore, can't have layoff news hitting the MSM, not during run up to elections.

Me thinks it will be really hard for the unions to brainwash the workers into doing phone trees this time.  Last election, literally union leaders were coaching members to call 10 of their relatives each day to convince them to vote for Obama.  Crazy.  I bet those folks feel pretty stupid and used about now.  Well maybe not, then again they are working and getting a paycheck.

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:14 | 1409843 Gert_B_Frobe
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The Feds are about due for a new fleet of cars. Hell, the current lot has got to be  approaching 12 months old.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:18 | 1409846 cossack55
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Well, they are getting a paycheck.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:07 | 1409817 Franken_Stein
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Would it help if they pumped liquid lead into the reactor, I mean 1 million tons ?

In order to stop the chain reaction and to contain the fissible material, i.e. to stop a outgassing of radioactive particles into the atmosphere ?

 

At $2500 / t lead this only costs $2.5 bn.

Peanuts.

 

Oh, lead is toxic ? Too bad.

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:19 | 1409853 cossack55
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All lead supplies are currently being painted gold and being shipped to Kentucky.  Casinos?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:12 | 1409964 jaffi
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First, you're assuming that as Japan starts buying the million tons of lead that you propose that the price of lead will stay static throughout this endeavor (nope, doesn't work that way).  Also, you are completely disregarding the investment of resources in order to make that scenario possible (equipment, smelts, heated delivery tubes, robotics, labor, diversion of resources, etc).  

Probably the biggest omission from your "fix" is that much of the fissile material is already in contact with one another (meltdown), and that while lead is a great barrier for radioactive emissions due to its mass, if you go poring lead on these reactors you will only trap this activity of fission while also giving it a contained vessel to build up heat and stored energy without any control actions.  Lead is also a poor heat conductor, thus encasing the fissile reaction in lead will only exacerbate the problem of the reaction.  To create an analogue, essentially what you are proposing is that instead of letting black powder burn in open air while the smoke and particles fallout in a short perimeter or attempting to smother it with water, instead we let the powder burn inside of a casing and then enjoy the ginormous explosion that results, while also throwing up the radioactive particles high into the atmosphere in the resulting mushroom cloud (free fallout for everybody).  Why solve the problem of an horrible nuclear accident?  Why don't we instead turn it into a horrendous nuclear explosion while we are at it?

I guess that you did not really think this one through....

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:42 | 1410091 cossack55
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Frank may have just been long lead.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:05 | 1410261 Hephasteus
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Lead is a neutron reflector. If you encase plutonium in neutron reflectors it will direct the neutrons back into the material. Plutonium 239 puts out about 1000 neutrons per hour per gram. It will either fission 235 237 or 238 or 238 will trap a neutron and turn into plutonium 239. It all depends on the temperature and energy when the neutron is emitted. Slow moving neutrons trap better than fast tearing ass hot spitball neutrons.

It's a balance equation. You either turn a bunch of uranium into decaying particles with a bunch of radioactive spit outs or you turn some of the it into more nasty plutonium. Either way it explodes or hyper actives and neutron pulses. This is getting into the environment one way or another. Probably best to let it get into the environment way down a lead mine.

Avogadro's number is a big number 6.0223 x 10^23 atoms per mole. Even in gram weights of a heavy element a gram of plutonium has a shit load of atoms and every one of them wants to spit a neutron or an excess neutroned particle.

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:11 | 1409819 TheEmperor
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I will send my emmisary to begin preparations for a 'Grand Army of the Republic' to be created from cloned radioactive-hardy remnants of the Samurai classes there.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:15 | 1409833 jaffi
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They have been poring thousands upon thousands of gallons of water on those reactors for many weeks, that water is seeping through the cracks in the containment vessels and reaching the water table.  If you think for a single minute that radioactive particles are just now reaching the oceans, then I have a seaport in Arkansas that is for sale.  

It seems that all information coming out of Japan with regard to the nuclear problem is all lies, that it is only a month or two later that they admit to what others were already warning about.  When it comes to media and government information it is always best to assume that they are full of crap.  For instance, if they are telling you to be very worried and that they know the right course of action to take, assume that they are full of S and that their recommendations are the exact wrong course to take.  If they are telling you that everything is fine and there is no need to take unnecessary precautions, ignore them and take to precautions (and, get out of Dodge).  

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:14 | 1409845 HankPaulson
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It's funny how the playbook for sheeple propaganda looks remarkably consistent in its Nth edition. When things are good, they're great, but when things are bad the terminology is neutral - in this case, despite a ginormous nuclear clusterfuck, there is "confusion", cf. ginormous financial and ecological clusterfucks - there is "uncertainty". Anyway, thanks for keeping us informed. No doubt neither the molten radioactive slag heaps nor the human/ecological consequences have hit bottom yet.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:15 | 1409851 pragmatic hobo
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Hiroshima and Nagasaki gave birth to Godzilla. I wonder what will come out of Fukushima.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:21 | 1409860 cossack55
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Fukhirosaki.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:22 | 1409864 Gert_B_Frobe
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Geez, The Bernank hasn't traveled to Japan lately, has he??? Things could get really ugly ... Oh, wait, they already are.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:16 | 1409859 Gert_B_Frobe
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God, I hope the dolphins will be okay. After all, what sport is there in clubing sickly dolphins to death.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:25 | 1409873 rosethorn
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If you want to understand the response of the Japanese government and Tepco to the Fukushima disaster, I can't recommend strongly enough reading Amazon.com: Dogs and Demons: Tales from the Dark Side of Japan (9780809039432): Alex Kerr: Books.

The lack of preparation for emergency, habitual lying and coverup, and government-corporate collusion are have been standard operating procedure in Japan for many years. There was a major incident at the nuclear facility in Tokai, Japan (Tokaimura nuclear accident) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in 1999.

"three workers were preparing a small batch of fuel for the J?y? experimental fast breeder reactor, using uranium enriched to 18.8% with the fissionable radionuclide known as U?235 (with the remainder being the non-fissile U?238). It was JCO's first batch of fuel for that reactor in three years, and no proper qualification and training requirements appear to have been established to prepare those workers for the job. At around 10:35 a.m., a precipitation tank reached critical mass when its fill level, containing about 16 kg of uranium, reached about 40 litres"

A criticality incident..."The cause of the accident was said to be "human error and serious breaches of safety principles", according to the International Atomic Energy Agency."

According to Kerr, "Tokai's nuclear plant had not repaired its safety equipment for more than seventeen years" prior to this incident. Further "The workers used a secret manual prepared by...managers that bypassed safety regulations"

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:31 | 1409910 j0nx
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Please. Like America is any better. Or Europe for that matter. The entire world is one big giant fucking clown car due to individual apathy, laziness, greed and fear.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:12 | 1410269 trav7777
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all of that is institutional now.  The system is its own emergent phenomenon of apathy and greed.  People go in with principles and the machine spits them out.

An individual fish behaves differently than one in a school

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:45 | 1410339 Citxmech
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I was just telling my wife that all of these folks worried about the human race getting annihilated by some form of renegade artificial intelligence can stop worrying about that - as right now I think we are being systematically hunted to extinction by our own arrogance and stupidity.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:36 | 1410318 dcb
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We are exactly the same

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:28 | 1409890 drink or die
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Have they run that power cable yet to fix this whole thing???

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:28 | 1409898 False Capital
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That Telegraph article is 3 months out of date.

3:32PM BST 28 Mar 2011"

I wonder where all the water went...

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:38 | 1409919 Franken_Stein
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Here's what they normally would have to do:

 

1. Remove all debris around the plants

2. Bulldoze an open unoccupied area next to the plant

3. Remove the top of each plant with a demolition shear,

i.e. all the broken steel framing and remaining concrete, to lay bare the reactor containment vessel

4. Place the radiating debris onto the open area,

cover it with lead blankets or newly erected lead-plated mobile housing

5. Assess damage to the containment vessel

6. Pull out any spent fuel rods that can be recovered, put them in special shielded caskets and transport them to a safe area in a mine for temporary storage

7. If there are no accessible spent fuel rods anymore, start the entombing process

8. Construct a concrete entombment, with a foundation reaching as deep as the reactor itself below surface, surrounding and encircling the reactor, as high as the reactor and put a new concrete roof above it.

9. Fill the the tomb with lead from top to bottom

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:55 | 1409997 Franken_Stein
Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:19 | 1410056 Dapper Dan
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My teenage daughter and son both came over to see that video showing the demolition track hoe, daughter stared at it for 5 seconds said oh! and left,

my son watched entire video and is standing around waiting for me to find more clips.

moral of the story, boys like to destroy,   girls,  not so much.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:28 | 1410408 hardcleareye
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No so the girls in my gene pool....  fire, explosions and things that go boommm, really big boommms...... ohh ahhhh.....

Wed, 06/29/2011 - 03:38 | 1410894 johansen
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I can't see how it would be that difficult to use those undersea robots that BP has on land. The radiation isn't high enough to damage the electronics given the amount of steel and glass already surrounding them for operation at 10,000 feet below water. Unless of course you intend to use them to tear apart the reactor, (just about impossible) and don't even think about using those robots to break up the corium.

Det cord and flexable shaped charges are the only way to cut through the 3-6 inches of stainless steel. But they wouldn't need to do that, as they should be able to just lift the reactor shell out of the building with a purpose built crane. (most of the fuel is probably melted through the bottom of the damn thing, and it weighs a lot less than it did, but they would still need to dynamite the drywell to do this)

 

What they should be doing now IMO is dig a big hole(s) and have every welder with in 500 miles welding a steel pan to sit in the hole(s). They can use the hundreds of tons* of 16, 18 gauge steel sheet metal from the car factories. The sheet metal is flexable enough not to be punctured by reasonably flat ground. (because that's what its designed to do, get streached and formed in a die.)

*yes, i realize they only keep 3 days supply on hand (i've sat through LEAN classes myself), but they import most of it, and those supply lines weren't cut.

Unfortunatly the reactors melted down in the first xx hours, and they probably knew this. At that point there really is no other options. someone who is familar with the art could do the math on how long it takes to melt through 6 inches of steel, and the three feet of cement. But if they had dynamited the building* and placed a crap ton of neutron moderators under the drywell some of their problems could have been prevented. Obviously they need to be able to pump the water out of the buildings, and they should have had those pumps set up before they put water into the reactor. They don't even have enough pumps to pump the water out now.

*after removing the spent fuel and putting it into the prior constructed hole(s) flooded with water. Spread the fuel out and put oil on top to slow the evaporation, let it sit at 105C just slowly boiling and you lose a lot of heat through radiation.

 

The lesson learned in this disaster is what we already know. no one has any sense of urgency when confronted with problems of this magnitude. even in hindsight, do you think they would have had the generators hooked up to run the pumps?

We have heard that there were issues with not enough generators and they were the wrong voltage or whatever. That is horse shit. generators can be synchronized and paralleled nearly infinitly when located close together. the pumps they use in nuclear plants are of sufficient service factor that they could handle operation on 60hz even when designed for 50 (danger of burn-out when used with centrifugal pumps and a standard 1.15 service factor). Getting the right voltage might be difficult but generators can be stacked in series by sychonizing them through transformers.

It appears they didn't even try to think out of the box.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:55 | 1409998 krispkritter
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Could they entomb them with all the GM vehicles? Y'know, compact them into big Lego blocks, stack them up, and just hammer on some HardiPlank covered in lead-based paints from China...win(GM), win(Hardie Co.), win(China), win(Japan)!  Never mind. Just send over the clowns in Congress and put up that circus tent and give free tickets to Al Quaeda members.... 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:33 | 1409920 jtmo3
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No, no. TEPCO is probably telling the truth. These "trenches" they talk about...are they earth trenches? If so, where is the water going? Maybe ground water. Whoever is running TEPCO should commit suicide and save the world from his lying ass shit. Anyone who thinks this is over is brain dead.

Can someone explain if that water doesn't go into the ocean, just WTF is it going to end up. We can start with water and work our way from there.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:38 | 1409924 Silverhog
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June auto sales numbers are going to be bad. I pass by our local GM dealer all the time. He has a big VIP tent set up with balloons. So I make it a point to see how many folks are wandering around looking. None. Zero. At least three weeks I have driven by and nobody looking. I also went to my Registry of Motor Vehicles to turn in some plates. Usually a 45 minute wait. Out in less then 5 minutes. Dealer line was empty. Pretty quiet out there.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:45 | 1409945 Cognitive Dissonance
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Clearly you live in the one US Zip Code that is not experiencing record auto sales. How sad for you. Considering moving one or two towns over. Any direction is fine as long as you promise to buy a 3/4 ton GM pickup to move all your stuff.

And pay full price while you're at it because you're buying American made. Gotta be patriotic.......or is that idiotic. I always get those two mixed up.

Some help here please.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:34 | 1410076 Ergo
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I can't tell you how much GM DOESN'T care about selling cars.  I went and looked a month ago.  Huge amounts of inventory. (we must all be in the same zip code). 

Salesman said with a straight face that they don't lower their price b/c they're selling so well - as we were looking down the long rows of Tahoes as far as the eye can see (must be an amazing poker player - he missed his calling).  Oh, and the drive train is under warranty - you know, the huge piece of steel that runs under the car - except if you wreck it of course. 

We left.  I even left my cell phone number, but no one ever tried to call us.  They seriously don't care.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:47 | 1410510 Cognitive Dissonance
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I heard a similar story from a friend last week. The GM dealership showed no interest in making a deal despite cars and trucks stacked on top of each other out on the lot.

I suspect the floor inventory is financed at a near zero interest rate......meaning there is no cost to carry the debt and no rush to cut a deal.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:49 | 1409961 Gert_B_Frobe
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Was with my son about 2 months ago to lend support while he went to lease a car. Saturday afternoon at 1:00 and we were the only ones in the dealership. Laughed at the Sales Manager when he suggested I could drive away today, too, with a new vehicle. Sorry buddy, I won't be buying a new car for a looong time. Car cash wrapped up in precious metals.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:29 | 1410072 andybev01
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Virtually Invisible Patrons?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:41 | 1409946 seek
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Meanwhile, the goodness keeps coming here. The Phoenix EPA RadNet monitor recorded its highest beta reading since the earthquake just a few days ago. Spikes above 200 CPM were zero between the earthquake and June 1, and there's been four that big this month. Both Bakersfield, CA and Corvallis, Oregon sites have registered their highest beta and gamma levels since the event just in the past couple days.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:25 | 1410188 Dr. Thorndike
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I correlated some of those spikes last week with increases in background at home on at least one day. Also this weekend spent Fri night up in Heber. My friends cabin background ran about 48cpm while I was there EXCEPT for about 3 hours in the middle of the night my reads were a sustained 61cpm average (4 hours). I have never seen a sustained 61cpm anywhere in AZ where I take readings (Tempe/Chandler, Downtown Phoenix) for the last 1.5 months. The worst sustained average I have ever seen in PHX area is about 50cpm. In April I got spikes inside the house up to 400cpm (haven't had many of those recently). My guess is the fires are carrying dry deposition aloft in ash and soot. Then again I watched the Driggs Idaho geiger average at about 100 cpm last night for several hours so new waves could be depositing.

Pretty criminal that PHX EPA has never publicly posted isotope analysis of any of the captured particles in their air sniffers - particularly in light of one statistical study (http://freepdfhosting.com/e9ba1877d6.pdf) that shows Phoenix had the highest increase in background radiation from 2010-2011 during the onset of the Fukshima crises (9.8x in Mar, 3.31x in May) based on Radnet data. We need a PHX area concerned citizens group (and one in every other city too). It's time the shenanigans and deceit from our "protection" agenecies are called out in public. There is simply no excuse for a failure to monitor as exhaustivley as possible - we are OWED this vis-a-vis our tax remitances. And if we don't get it perhaps it's time to rethink those good-faith and other contractual obligations. Enough of the BS!

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:43 | 1410214 seek
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Interesting. I've been running a logging counter here in N. Phoenix since the event. I've not seen a huge increase in background, but I do statistical analysis of there results daily and routeinely detect spikes in the background. The largest spike I've seen so far happened on May 14th. If you check RadNet you'll find it was taken offline May 13-16 or so, which is odd to say the least. I may be heading up to the Rim area this weekend, and will probably drag along some gear to see what I get. Can you tell me what counter you're using? (Black Cat systems GM-10 here.)

My own equipment has picked up a couple fresh waves, such as they are, one on 6/20 and one on 6/26.

The other strange thing is the EPA did one round of testing of milk, right after the event, and they've stopped since even though their own equipment is showing increasing levels of beta and gamma.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:58 | 1410355 Dr. Thorndike
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Using a RadeyeB20 and RadyePRD (PRD is mostly to eliminate Gamma as a radiation source - IOW isolate Beta) . No big increases in averages in the south valley (Ahwatukee) either. I have "caught" a few suspected Radon daughters as I use plastic baggies as a shield over the GM end of the detector to filter alpha (mainly trying to detect beta and keep the GM tube un-contaminated). Every once in a while (two confimred times) I'll "catch" something on the plastic baggie shield that causes the background avg to move up markedly (40cpm to 90cpm). The first time it happend I freaked until I did some enquiry on the Geiger Counter Enthusiast list and realized I was proabaly detecting a radon daughter. I confirmed this by removing the plastic bag shield (background went back to normal) then monitored that plastic-bag-shield as decay occured back to background levels. Perhaps the best indicator of whether your dealing with fallout our natural sources is the decay profile from something you have caputred. If you caputre something and it reamins hot for weeks you could be looking at a fallout isotopoe. If instead what you caputre decays in hours, days, weeks it is likley something like a radon daughter - although there is a lead radon daughter with a 22 year half-life. Of course you probably know once you start looking for radioisotopes the next frustrating aspect is identification. Also regrading the rim, I kayaked around Chevlon lake all day Saturday and got very low background reads (nothing unusual). It was only at the cabin in Heber where I got both a 200+cpm spike and the 60cpm average early Sat morning. It was hot so I had no choice but to sleep with window open and fan blowing in. Come to think of it I didn't eliminate plastic shield contamination (would have had to change it in the middle of the night) so I can't even confirm that is was actual background and not shield contamination (so many things to control for). Incidentally, as you ascend up the rim on 260 you'll get a great view of the smokey cloud engulfing the valley.

IMO the EPA's recent behavior is just confirmation that it serves only the purposes and ends of elite goals and maintains no real commitment of "protection" for whom it ostensibly serves. Another federal tool we have paid for that does the bidding of other parties (see global climate warming change thingy). And heres what really sickens me - Fukushima is probably the world's great human-caused environental disaster and in general we haven't here peep about it - but wee hear endless diabtribes abou the that evil carbon - talk about irony and hypocrisy. "Dont worry bout them radioactive istopes your breathing in, man-made carbon is the reall killer". Never could have imagined the "look the other way" approach to real environmental poisins while the GE money maker, carbon, get's top billing from most enviromental "pundits". But now I'm just getting nasty :-)

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:11 | 1410376 Dr. Thorndike
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>"Come to think of it I didn't eliminate plastic shield contamination (would have had to change it in the middle of the night) so I can't even confirm that is was actual background and not shield contamination (so many things to control for)"

 

Actually, I did control for this. I forgot that the detector was moving between low and high readings. When the shield is contaminated the readings don't drop. That morning the readings were fluctuating normally indicating NO contamination - so it WAS the first time I ever saw a 1cps/60cpm sustained avaerage.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:34 | 1410492 anonnn
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IIRC, if you got the Strontium90 daughter, Yttrium, there will be a rapid decay of hi-energy beta [Sr90 is slower/lo-energy beta decay].

Wed, 06/29/2011 - 01:29 | 1410821 seek
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Interesting. The CPM spike works out to about 3X background, so definitely getting up there.

Heber would be an interesting area  for the spike to occur. The microclimate on the rim is created by air blowing in out of the southwest over the central plateu of the state, and then hitting the rise on the rim, undergoing rapid adiabatic cooling, and then flowing out onto the rim. That's why the forest is located there -- so much extra rainfall from the microclimate. I wonder if that same effect is working to concentrate fallout. If this is the case, then the Forest Lakes area could be quite hot.

BTW, that's a very nice detector you have. I've been doing all my work witha much less efficient tube.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:06 | 1410370 majia
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Let us connect. I live in Phoenix and I've been pestering the state radiological emergency contact, Bill Wolfe, and the person who runs the state's testing office for radiation. He tells me that we had levels of 300 plus in beta early on in the Fukushima crisis.

I have been ultra concerned about these incredible spikes and post daily EPA numbers on my blog. http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/

Dr. Thorndike and others in the Phoenix metro area please contact me so we can form a citizens group. The state does its own testing. We need to get them to release their data and take protective action.

majiandsn@yahoo.com

Here is Wolfe's contact info

William D. Wolfe Radiological Emergency Preparedness Program Arizona Division of Emergency Management (O) 602-464-6234 (C) 602-909-3057 bill.wolfe@azdema.gov

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:13 | 1410381 Dr. Thorndike
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Will do Majia.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 22:35 | 1410591 Let em push you...
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Count me in on the Phoenix thing.

Wed, 06/29/2011 - 02:17 | 1410853 majia
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email me so we can create a list of people who want to get involved

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:52 | 1409956 I Got Worms
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Earless Rabbit ETF anyone?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:51 | 1409966 proLiberty
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I want to repeat my deep condolences to the people of Japan for these horrible events.

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 16:53 | 1409973 divide_by_zero
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They started pumping Nitrogen into #2  yesterday to purge Hydrogen.

 

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11062809-e.html

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:27 | 1410069 Sweet Chicken
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What is the main purpose of this?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:07 | 1410246 divide_by_zero
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Apparently the Zirconium that encases that fuel rods generates copious amounts of Hydrogen when it cooks off in water which caused several of the explosions on-site so far. They were doing this with Unit #1 for quite some time, but it's had continual re-criticality issues.

http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/?n=1

Unit #4 looks like a steam geyser on any given night since the 19th, even visible in the day shots, Tepcos repository of 1-hour compressed clips at youtube link (live page is down http://atmc.jp/fuku1/ );

http://www.youtube.com/user/fuku1live?

TBS/JNN live feed usually too hazy in reactor direction but new crane showed up today by Units1,2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIa6yble2gk&feature=player_embedded

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:51 | 1410346 majia
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Did you see the apparent fire Sunday morning (US time frame) at unit #3?

The first two clips are color edited. I don't think they have been tampered with otherwise because the images (glow and flames) look exactly like what I witnessed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFxGQW3UNDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0pVpC0OVY0&feature=related

 

 

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:08 | 1410036 buzzsaw99
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They count unsold cars on dealer lots as being sold? heh heh heh

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:11 | 1410047 Sparkey
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Some how I think, this four reactor melt down on the shore of the ocean, slowly however inexorably, poisoning the ocean, is the event which  presages the future, that the end has truly begun can no longer be denied.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:35 | 1410079 ArrestBobRubin
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Folks, we just may have some serious issues right here in the US due to the flooding of the reactors on the Mississippi. This story may be getting less play than even Fukushima, but the effects will be much more local. There's much more here than meets the eye and one wonders if it will become a crisis that the "govt" exploits to ratchet down control another few notches. Or worse.

A piece of heavy machinery takes out the rubber berm protecting Ft. Calhoun? Really? No precautions in place to prevent that from happening to this super-critcal water balloon? Fella's, it's RUBBER.

This could be totally legit. Or a bogus "event" in nascent stages. Some sources say that spent fuel rod pools at Ft. Calhoun are now being cooled by flood water. The incoming water caused a fire which took out key parts of the spent fuel cooling system. This water cannot be contained after being used for that purpose. We know the danger of spent fuel rod pools from Fukushima.

What's worse, it is expected that the river will rise another 5 feet, and that's even before this year's massive snow pack all across the Front Range of the Rockies finishes melting. All of that water drains eastward, through already flooded rivers. A late Spring out West with prolonged low temperatures has created a situation where more water will be heading south, piling up and out across the region. Many upstream dams are already filled to the max. The failure of just 1 could create an awful cascade effect.

Not fun to share but it's best people know the full set of possibilities. Don't be lulled & gulled. This is not going well at all. Fairewind's Arne Gunderson and others are interviewed in this piece. It's an eye-opener:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TerralO3#p/u/10/ySztL6kBw-M

 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 17:41 | 1410086 slewie the pi-rat
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yes, this is horrible for those closest to the mess. 

maybe the japanese car industry will do fiiiine, tyler.  the USA is a little slow, now, but world-wide, housing and RE values are going up so fast that 1 billion homeowners will re-fi by the end of 2012 to buy cars.  with cash. 

from the debt. 

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:52 | 1410243 navy62802
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Eh ... 1 Seivert? Bring it on baby!!!

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:16 | 1410465 flyr1710
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in case anyone was wondering - here is what wonderful effects sieverts can provide (from Wikipedia - Sievert)


Symptoms of acute radiation (dose received within one day):[4]

4 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Icons-mini-file_acrob...); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; padding-right: 18px; background-position: 100% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/assets/docs_f_o/energy-good-bad.pdf">"Nuclear Energy: the Good, the Bad, and the Debatable". National Institutes of Health.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:34 | 1410498 Poofter Priest
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Wait...oh this is a 'temporary melt down.

Ooooh. Well in that case what are you all bitching about?

"...A temporary meltdown inside the core of the Number 2 reactor was possibly the cause of the building's contaminated water...,"

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 23:10 | 1410646 zorba THE GREEK
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 Oh this was a temporary meltdown, thank goodness, I feel so much better now

 that it is clearly only temporary. So that means it is going to unmeltdown soon,

 right?

Wed, 06/29/2011 - 02:39 | 1410863 majia
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Fire is surrounding Los Alamos

http://enenews.com/chief-we-have-fire-all-around-the-lab-its-a-road-away-zero-percent-containment

picture of site shows lots of trees.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39235273/ns/us_news-security/t/held-alleged-...

I think the concern is less about the brick buildings burning and more about the burning of toxic waste sites where 70 plus years of "waste" was dumped...

Already air specialists able to detect uranium and plutonium in the air have been dispatched. Of course, there will be no reason to panic the public unless imminent death threatens...

http://enenews.com/upi-web-site-group-revealed-plutonium-contaminated-waste-stored-above-ground-los-alamos-appeared-hacked-early-tuesday-morning

 

 

Wed, 06/29/2011 - 12:52 | 1412417 suckerfishzilla
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I'm trying to shut down the rest of the reactors on the planet but very few others seem to be interested in that. We only have 1800 tonnes of Plutonium to manage  worldwide otherwise. 

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