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112 Hedge Funds Scream In Pain As GM Drops To Fresh Post-IPO Low
Nobody could have expected this. Certainly not the 112 hedge funds which hold GM stock on expectations the government, the Fed and GETCO would never let "that company" plunge this far. Next up: a congressional hearing for GETCO regarding charges of ponzi maintenance dereliction. As for the much touted "breakeven" on GM by the US government, the WSJ summarizes it best: "To break even, the U.S. Treasury would need to sell its remaining
stake—about 500 million shares—at $53 apiece. GM closed off 27 cents a
share at $29.97 in 4 p.m. trading Monday on the New York Stock Exchange,
hitting a new low since its $33-a-share November initial public
offering." Good luck with that: not even State Street can institute a short squeeze of such epic proportions.
And the losers, coming in at #10 in the list of most popular hedge fund stock, held by 112 different hedge funds.
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"House of Pain"
AW poor hedge funds.
Remember, it's not general motors. It's GOVERNMENT Motors
Twentieth Century Motor Company.
Oh man, I'm only gonna make $4 Billion this year....
Problem solved..... cut a few more trading desks but keep the record bonuses for the top brass
lol welcome to the world of too big to bail.
http://media.adamdodson.org/index.php/Illuminati-Card-Game/fnord-motor-c...
But I thought channel stuffing was working just fine....everybody just needs to BTFVolt.
Let us remember that the bank bailouts began with the automaker bailouts.
Shit cars channel stuffed funded by a comatose taxpayer.
'Like a rock, ohhh like a rock' - Like a rock you're sinking into the Mariana Trench
Problem is, the Volt burns your house down. Oh well GM, maybe next year.
Wouldn't tens of thousands of houses burning down be good for the economy? I heard it was good for Japan's. What????
+(240V) creative destruction!
... And Chevy Cruze steering wheels fall off: www.cruzeless.com
Actually they might be catching on fire. Might not be the Volt's fault though as this numbnuts converted his Suzuki Samari to electric power also. Hope his insurance takes a long hard look at this one:
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/chevrolet-volt-bursts-in-flames-twice-...
http://www.freep.com/article/20110416/NEWS06/104160330/Electric-cars-des...
Sorta neat that the Volt caught on fire twice. Must have been someone at Toyota...
deja vu, April 2010. The f@ckers are letting the casino lose a bit of money before the announcement of QE3, or QE3 in disguise, in September. So predictable, morons.
Always pleased to see one of the 2-and-20 crowd taking it up the chute.
When OPEL GM failed here in Belgium, we hired one of the executives to join the staff.
When he got fired from OPEL, he got a handshake of 200K and invested it right back in the GM IPO... He even took a broker to do it for him...
I've been discussing that "investment" with him as the stupidest move ever but as a coporate GM lover, he just won't listen.
He's been pretty quiet these last few weeks :)
And I constantly remind him that it will go to 18$ by the end of this year :)
He must really love me for it :)
You're a jerk.
GM will once again find ultimate support at zero, probably sooner than we imagine.
Stocks are not race horses. You can switch out if you are behind.
l.o.l., sudden debt, on your comment .....
Not nice to taunt the dingbats like that.
Why again did the us government need to buy gm? They made shit cars for decades and then loaned out money to shitty borrowers. Fuck them in the ear
Duh. To bail out the unions, and the management.
Actually the gov would have bailed out Gimmee Motors wether or not the union was involved. You know, the country goes as GM goes. Die Gm Die.
Bring back Rick Wagner. He was a saviour. Where is that Fuckhead ? Taxpayers will never recoup the TARP funds. Its over. Stick a fork.
socialized loss and privatized....er, loss? Thats wrong, fuck - how did it go again?
Lol.....the government even fucks up at the moral hazard game.
Cue Rattner on Criminal News and Business Channel to tell us what a great idea it was for taxpayers to sell their children a little deeper into debt slavery to bailout GM's unions.
Maybe if they delute their stock with 1 billion shares every quarter, they can get their money back?
I worked with Citibank :)
Watch Chrysler follow, and then the Government will step in to break up Ford under an anti-Monopoly case.
GM is a disgusting company.
So is the US government for that matter.
First they forced us to buy Health Care Insurance.
Will they now force us to buy a Chevy Volt?
I wouldn't buy a GM product with my worsed enemies credit.
I inherited a Buick from my Father. Drove it for 5 years (hey it was paid for). Last month, it caught fire in the Costco parking lot and burned up the engine compartment. My new ride is a Honda Ridgeline. Never set foot in a GM, Chrysler or Ford showroom.
I have a Ridgeline and a BMW, but I also own a '65 Chevy Caprice with a 396. Frankly I like all three vehicles very much.
Fuck the Volt and sink GM, get VW to start producing the XL1.
I bet your post is being printed and put in "the idea box"
....somewhere
... somewhere in the Washington area...
Need to buy subprime lender ASAP
Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:44am by Jonathon M. Seid
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/govt-looking-to-sell-its-gm-stock-a-pote...
and this................
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870391600457627138241888709...
i want to see GM go to zero, even more than BAC
+1
How many times can the Trabant Motor Company go bankrupt?
"Good luck with that: not even State Street can institute a short squeeze of such epic proportions."
Yes they can, they did it pre-crash with entities like FNM and also GM.
And yes they will. This bitch is worth playing contrary with calls once it breaks hard to the downside. Long only. They have the $$$$, they want it up, so let them buy it up for you.
And yes, afterwards they'll enter chapter 22, playbook is still fresh from the last time.
GM, the perma IPO of the 21st century.
+1
Fair value is $0.00/share
I just checked with Phil "Mr. Detroit" LeBoe, he said thats just wrong and mean spirited. He asked "have you seen a Volt?"
I've seen a Volt, burn down a house.
Maybe they should change the name of "Volt" to "Old Sparky!" (Think electric chair.....)
That's OK, Obama has a twofold solution:
1) Make government bigger and buy more GM fleet vehicles
2) Order LaHood to recall Camrys, Corollas, Fusions, Foci, F150s (done,) Altimas, Sonatas, Elantras, Civics and Accords.
This is what you call a classic "pump and dump" scheme. Look to the Fed to secretly buy this toxic waste and dump the junk to the American taxpayers' great grandchildren.
It will be bankrupted, bailed out, and floated again. Rinse and repeat.
Try 'flush and repeat'.
Yup! Remember that one of the beneficiaries of this prepackaged fraud of a BK was the UAW Health Care Trust. There is no way that the Democratic Party is going to allow this Trust to not meet its obligations. A couple years ago the net present value of the estimated total liability to existing members was about $57 billion. The moment this sucker can't cashflow the UAW is going to scream bloody murder that they were jacked by the previous deal.
What was it you said two weeks ago? "how do you say 'short GM in Chinese?'
"fuking GM"
Were we going we don't need GM cars.
I think the Chinese will buy it....at $4.00
ha ha
Hard not to enjoy the smell of roasting unregulated Hedge Funds in the morning.
anyone who owns Gov't Motors stock is an idiot.
Another brilliant govt bailout sticking it to the taxpayers by trying to save a company more appropriately named Giant Mess (GM) "where quality is job none".
L.O.L. i laughed so hard when i read that headline. you know i'd rather walk til my legs fall off with holes in my shoes before i ever hand over my money to the GM corporation ..... ever !
Fuck government motors.
As the pool of revenue grows smaller, the barracudas begin to feed upon each other.
Yee-haw!
Since we've already paid for it, why not hand out a free car to every tax payer ( I mean the 40% who actually paid, thanks ) when this cluster-fuck goes tits-up again?
Call it...Clunkers for Cash.
+1
This was always a pump n dump.
yea, that's the way i look at it, too .... we should all be getting free cars. i didn't really want to hand over $57billion of my & my kids & my grandkids money to GM, but, they stole it from me ; least they can do is either give us free cars or the cars that they sell in China for only $5,000 per auto........ i'd love one of those cheap, stripped-down autos for running local errands.
GM stock trading at all time lows? Go figure. ROFL
Seriously, why would any hedge fund manager buy GM? Why, having done that, would any financial firm continue to employ that manager? And why, given that, would any person out there continue to keep their funds with that financial firm? You guys here at Zero Hedge are the financial cracker-jacks...I'm just an interloper who likes to read Money McBags' stuff...explain it to me: are they all idiots?
Hedge fund managers are IDIOTS believe me I know, I have a couple in my family! MORONS!!!
can I come to your house for Thanksgiving if I promise not to eat - just listen and watch.
:D
I like to look, er I mean read, McBags too.
Buy one share of GM, show to Uncle Sam, get smiley face on paper and some sort of backdoor favor down the road....immediately short 2 shares. Problems solved.
The Volt's incendiary properties. House fires. For only 45k- http://thecivillibertarian.blogspot.com/2011/04/chevy-volt-at-45k-costs-...
Apparently the thing caught fire twice...not sure what caused the fire. The owner at least put in a firewall between the garage and house. I wonder if that's the next GM incentive - free firewall with purchase. It's good that the Volt catches on fire,that's apparently the only way to get heat of the the thing.
http://green.autoblog.com/2011/02/28/chevy-volt-sweater-gloves-commuter-...
Honestly I'm surprised, even I knew this was a turd and told all my friends to short it. did anyone really believe this was going anywhere when there focus is on some bullshit electric turd nobody wants....to have a chance at least build what the people want, don't listen to our dreamer president that has no clue.
They sure tried to polish this turd before the public offer
It just goes to show the old saying is true.
Like no one knew it was going down...haha
Is GM back on its way to zero once again? Could be, but not for a while. The Federal Gov said they plan to sell more stock this spring/summer. I am sure this is putting pressure on the stock. They will undoubtedly sell at the bottom. Who knows maybe the will panic sell to buy one more day of time before the gov hits the debt ceiling.
http://www.TheAngryGrapes.Com
Is GM back on its way to zero once again? Could be, but not for a while. The Federal Gov said they plan to sell more stock this spring/summer. I am sure this is putting pressure on the stock. They will undoubtedly sell at the bottom. Who knows maybe the will panic sell to buy one more day of time before the gov hits the debt ceiling.
http://www.TheAngryGrapes.Com
I'm sure that new govrnment fleet purchases are going to be heavily weighted with GM vehicles, with some Chrysler.
Since when is a drop of 10% in 4 months a major crash? Everybody must be really spoiled by the manipulated markets.
They treated minority bondholders shabbily by bribing majority bondholders with talf and other goodies.
Unions got to usurp 100 years of bankruptcy law.
I will never buy a car from government motors.
Dp
(Douche post)
Talf, tarp hamp, whatever it was.
Anybody that even came within 100 yards of moral hazard and taxpayer subsidy is on my enemies list.
I keep telling everyone to call Cramer. He was recommending a buy on GM up to $40 the day after the IPO. That's like $42.50 if you properly account for inflation since then. Surely he would be happy to pick up a few blocks at $30 now.
I wonder what headline we will read next.
Maybe something like "Steering wheel falls off and entire car spontaneously ignites will driving on highway killing 4 lawyers."
Then they will finally go bankrupt once and for all.
GM is dead. Simple as.
Just like a corpse, the hair and nails grow on for a while...
Has anyone read Todd Zywicki's article in the Spring 2011 'National Review'? It's titled 'The Auto Bailout and the Rule of Law'.
Here's the link, it's a must read for ZHers: http://nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-auto-bailout-and-the-...