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229 Billion Reasons To Squeeze The Market

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The bond vigilantes (and PIMCO which just loves the short end) will be happy to see this. And the equity market will need a higher point to drop from as $229 billion in capital is reallocated.




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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:07 | Link to Comment chindit13
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Come on TD, come drink at the public trough.  Ben is buying if Bill Gross or the Chinese opt out.  What's 229 billion electrons amongst friends?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 18:25 | Link to Comment whacked
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You provide us with mediocre comic relief amongst the insanity that persists in the market .. therefore not regarded as junk.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:10 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:10 | Link to Comment hack3434
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:-o

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:11 | Link to Comment capitalisa
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I don't care anymore.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:31 | Link to Comment capitalisa
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USD/JPY is going to break down.  That's all I've heard for two weeks.  Seen it lately?  Entirely correlated to S&P and all the breakdown talk for that index hasn't happened either.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:47 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Say what?!?  Correlated by what relation?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 14:00 | Link to Comment DebtorShredder
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Stop looking at it and it will happen.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:43 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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Cmon Charlie, just sign up. Stop posting under Anon... =)

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Rusty_Shackleford
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By now your name and particulars have been fed into every laptop, desktop, mainframe and supermarket scanner that collectively make up the global information conspiracy, otherwise known as "The Beast."

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:21 | Link to Comment Mos
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Spending our way into prosperity, can't wait for the rapant tax hikes for the next 30 years to pay for all this.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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Interesting, maybe I should post something true about Raiffeisen bank :)

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:32 | Link to Comment capitalisa
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Who's giving handjobs to whom?  Gotta get my glasses fixed.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:35 | Link to Comment chindit13
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Two Points:

 

First, much of that issuance is short term and likely has a large component of maturing bills which will be rolled over.  You've got to look and see how many <1 year bills mature on Monday.  The issuance may not be too tough to absorb.

 

Second, lots of CNBC types are visiting today under the banner of anonymity, criticizing TD for the implied short or non-participation they assume he and the rest of ZH readers have (which is incorrect).  Of course the joke comes back to them, as few earn enough to accumulate any kind of sizeable portfolio, and without a doubt they will miss the turn.  And of the few who have a little lucre, either ill-gotten or by marriage, a rich asshole is still an asshole.  Money can't buy a personality.  The camera doesn't lie.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 14:23 | Link to Comment IE
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Why can't CIT roll over debt?  Should be easy enough.

Or... did you really not state the actual problem?...

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:52 | Link to Comment IE
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LOL...  The Fed wants inflation worse than I want Alba. 

But who knows ...  maybe they'll tighten a little just to try to make a point ... and that could send the market skyrocketing on expectations, even in the face of wide scale deflation... hmnn... I wonder if they have the "resolve" (cajones) to try it?  The market's already completely separated from reality - so I guess why not?

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Fruffing
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Bernanke and Summers ignore Fisher.   He's been marginalized in this debate.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:41 | Link to Comment IE
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Naw... everybody wants treasuries!  Hold your nose & understand they're the best "safety" out there ... and get 'em now before the next (soon... maybe?) flight to (ahem) "quality". 

Inflation indeed ... with all that debt to deflate?  I don't think so...

The way I see it, the market is Charlie Brown.  And Goldman is Lucy ... and about the pull back the football again.  Whoops - gotcha again, Charlie!

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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from what i hear responses to ZH are over in Wien I do that a little too often. wink wink :)

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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spot on on the captcha. and i will look again, and check it twice 8-)

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 14:05 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Why don't you tell us YOUR name smartypants? I'm sure you got nothin to hide.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Looking at this aggressive schedule, I cannot help but think that US Govt. has good reason to believe that creditors/holders of capital are about to bail on the United States en masse - which would also explain the "I-pissed-my-pants" look on Benny boy's face the other day at the hearing. I think there is a major blowup headed our way and the US Govt./Fed know it - perhaps they know that the dollar is about to crash in a spectacular fashion OR they could be planning to devalue it themselves (ala FDR). Perhaps interest rates are about to skyrocket? Whatever it is, I think they are trying to sell as many treasuries as soon as possible (i.e. extract as much money as possible from all those stupid enough to buy this toilet-paper) before the blowup happens. PIMCO's recent favorable comments regarding long dated treasuries should be seen as a red herring - an attempt to line up bag-holders for the treasury market and nothing else.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 13:52 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 14:09 | Link to Comment IE
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>> If everyone is going into equities who is left to buy the 'safe' stuff?

I'm happily buying the safe stuff now, and will gladly sell it to you in the future, for a price.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 19:48 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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I think I see the strings attached to the $500 trillion (er billion.. hard to keep them straight anymore) that noone (at least the FED) knows where it went or what it was for.... When (if) they burn through that propping up the T Bill market, we will be talking about a new round stimulus or other measures. Probably timable...Amount sold - real interest = fake money used (by whom,or is it who)..... And of course the presses are running, at least someone is getting overtime.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 22:08 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2009/0716.html

someone else thinking along the same lines.

by Jim Willie, CB. Editor, Hat Trick Letter ...

"The major question unasked and unanswered is whether the USFed gave foreign central banks the USDollars with which to bid up the USTreasurys at auction. My belief is obviously yes, for three reasons. First, the USFed was struggling at auctions with rising bond yields and bad publicity. Second, the process was applying sufficient pressure to their own stable of primary bond dealers, which was sitting on over $360 billion in gradually lower quality bond inventory, to bring down their own dealer network. Dresdner Kleinwort exited the dealer network, but two Canadian big banks entered (or are entering) the dealer network motivated by grave stupidity. See Toronto Dominion and Royal Bank of Canada. Third, they have the means, they have the ability, they have the sway, they have the bold defiant arrogance. The US banker syndicate can rejigger the Indirect Bidder definition, but that is but a small smokescreen that fades by noontime. Notice how Indirect Bidders (largely foreign central banks) grabbed over half the USTreasury supply with a participation rate of 54% in a recent purchase of $18.878 billion of the $35 billion for sale.

 ............

So the answer to the riddle appears to be HIDDEN MONETIZATION. If foreign central banks used their own money, a strong USDollar response would surely have come, since the volume of the USTreasury auctions each week is larger than the typical monthly volume a year ago. Would the USFed set up accounts in foreign locations for the purpose of bidding on its own USTBonds secretly? Obviously yes. They already set up vast USDollar Swap Facilities last October in foreign locations. This ugly deception will leak out in time."

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Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:16 | Link to Comment MarkD
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If the blocks were green, they could be mistaken as green shootz.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 15:23 | Link to Comment Steak
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Here is a thought, and I hope some of y'all check it out to see what I'm seeing.

I noticed the failed head-n-shoulders in the S&P looked a LOT like the same failed move in the EURUSD a week or two before.  So when I looked at a chart of 10yr yields I saw something that looked strikingly familiar from currencyland.

Look at the AUDUSD and the move it made from late Feb to late April.  After some staggered moves higher it looked like the appreciation was about to break down around April 18.  But it just turned out to be a case of higher lows and the rocketship took off from there.

The amplitude of moves in the 10yr chart are greater, but I see the exact same patterns looking from early April to today.  If the equity markets move even a pinch higher from here and it is met with rising yields on the longer maturities I'd be very worried that the 1987 crunch scenario is back on the table.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 07/23/2009 - 16:58 | Link to Comment johngaltfla
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This will not end well. You do not put that type of number up without a plan OR anticipation of other worldly events about to occur. In other words, watch the Middle East; events are underway there quite under the radar of the zipperheads at Bubblevision.....

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:21 | Link to Comment decon
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Tyler,

A statistical analysis of market movement comparing bond sale days versus non-sale days during the last few months would be interesting.  I struggled through Biometry but I'll bet Marla could come up with the appropriate test/regression.

Thu, 07/23/2009 - 17:56 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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