ADP Comes At 187K On Expectations Of 140K, Previous Revised 50K Lower

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Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:29 | 926828 EscapeKey
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Priced in already.

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stock futures wobbled after the ADP National Employment Report had private payrolls rising 187,000 in January. "The specifics of the report aside, the general story of an improving economy, growing profits and increasing employment is bolstered further by today's report," said Dan Greenhaus, chief economic strategist at Miller Tabak & Co. Futures for the Dow Jones Industrial Average were off 3 points at 11,970. Those for the S&P 500 were off 1.4 points at 1,301.3, while Nasdaq 100 futures fell 3.25 points to 2,319.25.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:44 | 926893 financeguru500
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I think what ADP meant to say is that they measured Chinese employment this time around so that they could put up some better numbers than usual. Not sure what this means for me but hey, I'm glad 187,000 chinese factory workers are gainfully employed.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:01 | 926947 Ray1968
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Ummm, it was the snow. Yeah, that's it... it was the snow!!!

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:10 | 926971 greengoogol
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The clowns on Squawk just laid the groundwork for that a second ago . . .

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:24 | 926830 Xibalba
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"Our formula predicts, er, sec..."

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:25 | 926832 The Axe
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Big Joe, is going to throw out his snow knowledge, dickhead


Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:26 | 926835 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:28 | 926844 RunningMan
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Trickle down economics of the worst kind. Money going to wall street bankers who are expected to spend and create hiring, but they are just buying commodities. No employment gain, and inflation to boot. Survival of the elite, and they hope the masses stand still long enough for them to get away. The last four months have been a disaster, so no wonder they want QEn.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:42 | 926888 Quinvarius
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That is the way I see it too.  Money flows into the blackhole of Wall Street and is never again seen by the economy until people pay for their groceries.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:28 | 926846 FOC 1183
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Hopefully Barclays will analyze "initial release" ADP vs. "initial release" BLS instead of "revised" vs. "revised" this time

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:29 | 926847 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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The lies and manipulations are obvious to any free-thinking human being.

Are there any free-thinking human beings in the U.S? or has the propoganda, aspartame and fluoride completely destroyed the thought processes of the avergage U.S. citizen?

The U.S. and other western world countries are going down big time. This is an end game, no way back from this.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:33 | 926856 EscapeKey
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It's all designed to be extended for as long as possible, stripping the middle classes of what wealth they might have.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:56 | 926935 thetruth
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how long though?  3 months?  3 years?  3 decades?


Imagine if it did take 30 years and we wasted our time getting frustrated for that long waiting for it to happen.  I know there are people here who have already been waiting that long.  Maybe they can comment.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:39 | 927106 snowball777
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I don't drink diet, so no aspartame. And I believe you dropped this tooth.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:29 | 926849 TraderMark
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Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:46 | 926902 JP McManus
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I might as well hire Jim Cramer as my financial advisor.  There's no downside risk!  BUY BUY BUY!!!

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:52 | 926918 plocequ1
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I like him. Hes silly

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:40 | 927109 snowball777
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Big Time Fucking Depression!

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 15:20 | 928286 andybev01
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Before The Fun Dies

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:35 | 926865 WineSorbet
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I'm having Vu Jade

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:42 | 926884 whatz that smell
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e-minis red... must be the snow.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:47 | 926904 The Axe
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I have to agree with the posters that simply say "buy the dip" it has not only worked every fucking time, it has yielded large trading profits. Nothing and I mean nothing other then the Fed turning off the firehose of free money will reverse this melt up market. Think about it the economy is sick, housing blows, banks still have scary balance sheets. yet the market is back to levels seen before the crash.....fucking amazing

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:54 | 926923 EscapeKey
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A daily, growing expectation of inflation would yield exactly what we see in the equities and commodities markets.

In the Weimar Republic, people couldn't understand prices going up every day, but at the same time, they saw their investments consistently rise in tandem.

All history such as this has been stripped from books, to ensure the peasants don't work out what's really happening around them before the exit is closed.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:48 | 926905 plocequ1
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look its simple. Even a Cave man can do it.. ADP formula...Numerator+6/4%-<876>-APPL stock price+877/denominator*8533%+x2(3)= Rally time

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:50 | 926911 thepigman
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Let's say ADP is right and 160,000
service sector jobs were created.
These are so well paying (sarcasm on)
that these workers will likely immediatley qualify for food stamps.
Think bedpan emptiers and mini-mart

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:54 | 926929 thepigman
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Go to Doug Short's site and check
out disposable income per capita....
it's going in the wrong direction
which means between the jobless and
the underjobbed, we got big problems
(assuming this is still a consumer
based economy). Course, we can deny that too. You know, like the housing
double dip doesn't matter, etc etc.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:56 | 926936 Hedgetard55
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Any news that threatens the legitimacy of QE3 is seen as bad news by the market.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:04 | 926956 tickhound
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hence why insolvency is bullish

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 09:58 | 926942 Caviar Emptor
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Message from your Wall Street Overlords: 

We added a few jobs for you lazy, greedy morons. So put a smile on your face and shut up. Now if you'll excuse us we got big important things to take of that you wouldn't understand: handling money and skimming a profit. Oh and pay your taxes so the fun can continue!

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:01 | 926951 thepigman
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The stock market is now a mechanism

for offsetting lack of loan growth by

the TBTFs. The fed has so decreed.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:12 | 926972 thepigman
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TBTFs pushing on a string. Formerly

free range brontosauruses now confined

to 100 acres of economic pasture.

Minsky decade. The bernank gives them

a daily feed.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:13 | 926980 Caviar Emptor
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You got it. I been saying for a while, market was the mechanism for recapitalizing the big corporations with huge debt to roll when capital markets were frozen stiff. All those secondary offerings and junk bonds (which hit all time record issuance in 09 and 10) had to be bought up. That's what put "all that cash in the balance sheets". 

That's still on, but on top of that the market is keeping the TBTF financials alive by lifting bank tangible equity, and by keeping Wall Street business alive through commissions, trading, and traditional ibanking. 

If the market was left to itself it would go back into a vicious cycle of declining prices and declining business

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:20 | 927001 thepigman
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Yup, yup. exactly.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:22 | 927011 thepigman
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The emperor has no clothes.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:09 | 926970 oh_bama
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needless to say it everyday



Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:16 | 926988 thepigman
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I ain't buyin nuthin from no TBTF brontosaurus

in failing health. The herd must be


Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:15 | 927250 Stuart
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I know it's been said already, but worth repeating every few seconds.... ADP = Who gives a damn!, really!...who cares?   Monkeys throwing darts at a board could do better. 

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:23 | 927293 Amish Hacker
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On the brighter side, think of all the jobs that have been created in the last couple of months, shoveling walks and driveways.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 15:51 | 928410 Robert Oak
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Over on The Economic Populist, I just graphed up a host of differences between the ADP and BLS private payrolls.

You are right, it's diverging and the graphs help show why.

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