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Update: Unredacted AIG Schedule A Released And Initial Data Spread

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Update: here is a first run of the data, with a focus on Goldman Sachs. 

It appears that of the roughly 38 Goldman CUSIPs which have data available, there are exactly zero rated A or higher by Moody's (we ignore the rating from the other rating agency as they apparently have long stopped rating most of these securities). There are 9 CUSIP issued after 2006, 21 between 2005 and 2006, and 8 issued before 2005. As Matt Goldstein points out, of the 25 or so deals that had CDS written on them after January 1, 2006, Goldman accounts for 40% of this late (post 2005) issuance. Goldstein notes: "that’s critical because in December 2007, former AIG Financial Products
head Joseph Cassano had said AIG largely got out of the CDS business by
the end of 2005." Some more reasons to finally indict the man who, more so than anyone, cost taxpayers hundreds of billions with horrendous risk management practices.

Another observation is that of Goldman's roughly $15.7 billion in original issues, the current amount outstanding on the underlying securities is only $11.7 billion as of January 2010, a factor of about 75%. Yet, based on paid down amounts, Goldman had the benefit of having almost the full contractual notional on the CDS: recall per BlackRock the firm had exposure of roughly $14.5 billion. In other words: even though Goldman was on the hook for about $11.7 billion in actual outstandings (as of January 2010, the current amount in November 2008 was likely higher), the amount that it received between collateral and ML III presumed almost an unamortized exposure. We are backing into the data to determine what the actual amount as of November 2008 was: we estimate it was about ~$13 billion, which unless we are misreading the data, means that Goldman likely got the extra benefit of amortization on the underlying, which could have amounted to over $1.5 billion.

Yet the critical question is: since there is not one security rated A, and in fact the median rating is a high C, and since we know that Soc Gen had parked its securities with the Fed in November 2008, just what standards does the Federal Reserve have when accepting securities in the discount window to lend against? And the implication is that Bernanke will allow any toxic crap to be eligible collateral, likely at par.

We will continue analyzing the other firms' securities as well, and solicit reader input in ideas on how to steer this analysis.

 


 

The previously top-secret Schedule A has been released and is attached. We are currently going through the data, focusing on prices, ratings, LTVs and other taxpayer critical data. Stephen Friedman saying, as we type, that revealing Schedule A will injure the taxpayer interest, as when the Fed will try to sell these CUSIPs, sophisticated buyers will have an advantage. Of course, we note, these sophisticated buyers will exist only because this list was offloaded to the taxpayers in the first place.

 

 

h/t Shahien Nasiripour

 


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Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:04 | Link to Comment bugs_
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Hurray!  Trust but verify.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:41 | Link to Comment ATG
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So it may not be outside the realm of possibility

that the 20:1 leveraged Fed may choke on its

own portfolio unless it can offload toxic junk

to the next musical chair alphabetic taxpayer

funded agency...

http://www.jubileeprosperity.com/

 

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Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:22 | Link to Comment -273
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"The way the AIG bailout was engineered was to specifically benefit Goldman Sachs and its trading partners," said Janet Tavakoli, a Chicago-based derivatives expert and founder of Tavakoli Structured Finance.

Yup.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:41 | Link to Comment JohnKing
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I wonder how much was indirectly paid to Goldman through SocGen and the other characters, my guess is "all your bailout belongs to us".

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 11/06/2010 - 18:16 | Link to Comment sohbetme
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I like your ideas and thoughts. While chat and sohbet with my friends talking about it.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 19:01 | Link to Comment berlinjames02
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Hell of a stick-save, Llyod! That's one way to avoid a 25% writedown on the value of the asset.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 20:16 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Paulson actually told Congress today that if he didn't bail out AIG the unemployment rate would have gone to 25% !!! LMAO Let's give that song and dance man one of these:

http://www.oscars.org/awards/academyawards/about/awards/images/side_oscar.jpg

 

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 01:56 | Link to Comment tom a taxpayer
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Wow, what a guy! Paulson must have saved or created 15 million jobs.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 08:49 | Link to Comment blindfaith
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Congressmen and Senators do not listen to or read facts. Only contributions are facts to them, and the very one they are 'investigating' are the one who finance their runs for office.
NOTHING will happen to any of them.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:27 | Link to Comment Bubby BankenStein
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I'm curious to see this grouped by bank issuing the CDO.

Why would the FEDS pay 100% (FED funded collateral plus subsequent CDS tear up funding) for the CDO's when they could accomplish the same benefit to AIG (Taking AIG off the hook) by an assignment of AIG CDS obligations to Maiden Lane III?  At least Maiden Lane III could collect any CDS premiums due, and not have to immediately fund the counter party payout.  There would also be a stronger basis for fair negotiation of future settlement.

Not that I think AIG should have been bailed out in any way.

I guess I'm missing half a brain.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:56 | Link to Comment jswede
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that's a GREAT question, bubby.  they needed to do something, fine.  but why the rush to terminate the contracts?

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:02 | Link to Comment TimmyM
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The collateral was deteriorating. Wait till you see the credit ratings before and after...

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:33 | Link to Comment Bubby BankenStein
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Had Maiden Lane III taken assignment of the CDS, demand for return of all collateral in excess of contractual minimums to Maiden Lane III would be expected.  This is because Maiden Lane III is as good as golden.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:28 | Link to Comment Mazarin
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11+

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:44 | Link to Comment waterdog
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I await the fallout with gleeful anticipation.

Great job by great people.

I read the prior post and realize now who released it.

 

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:34 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 I LOVE Zerohedge.

 You guys ROCK!!!!

 The epicness is breathtaking!

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:36 | Link to Comment -273
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Epicurus is a key figure in the development of science and the scientific method because of his insistence that nothing should be believed except that which was tested through direct observation and logical deduction.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 19:40 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 Indeed...and how appropriate, now that we can see the data!

 An Epic win for ZH.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 19:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 01:37 | Link to Comment hbjork1
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+10 And my scale only goes to 10.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 23:07 | Link to Comment bchbum
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Its almost nice to know that they couldn't just give gs 13.5 B, but they had to give other people money as well.  Which leads me to believe gs got more than 13.5B.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:47 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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just called issa's district office to thank him and encourage him

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:02 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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"these sophisticated buyers will exist only because this list was offloaded to the taxpayers in the first place"   - and that makes all of us the non consenting unsophisticated crime victim seller? 

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:47 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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In time to torpedo Bernake's reappointment tomorrow? Maybe not but we will sure put the sign of the beast on those who vote yes.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:55 | Link to Comment John McCloy
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I showed my support for Kanjorski and mailed him his Shill of the year award today. It's a bowling trophy with the bowler replaced with Bernanke, the ball replaced with money sack and the pins replaced with American citizens.

Incredibly to receive one so early in 2010 is quite an achievement.

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 02:07 | Link to Comment tom a taxpayer
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Ouch! I just got hit between the legs with Ben's bowling ball. 

Signed

A Pinhead

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:55 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Furriners!  It went to furriners and Golden Slacks! 

 

That's my kids' money you fucks!  Lazy fucking bad bets on mortgage derivatives...bets in the billions, many of them.  They should be paid ZEEEEEEEEEE-RO for this shit.

 

Fuck you!

 

 

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:15 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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Its going to cost you more (in devalued currency) than your kids.

"using our kids money" is a political phrase used to make you look the other way when gas hits $5/gallon.

 

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 19:02 | Link to Comment calltoaccount
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it wasn't just "bad bets"-- it was FRAUD.  All of these pigs should be indicted.

 

 

excerpted from: http://market-ticker.org/

?The essence of all asset bubbles is fraudulent credit creation.

  While the form of these fraudulent securities vary from one bubble to another the essence of the scam never does, because in order to screw people in the sale of securities you must lie in some fashion (whether by omission or commission) about their value.

...the warnings were clear as early as 2004 and included the FBI, HUD and private credit analytic firms all issuing loud and strident warnings that the non-conforming mortgage market was rife with fraud and that in one classification of this paper (ALT-A mortgages), nine in ten mortgages were not properly underwritten - that is, the income and assets claimed did not match reality.

 

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 01:39 | Link to Comment hbjork1
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"FRAUD".  At last we are getting a handle on the basic problem.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:59 | Link to Comment ayanni
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So GS and the FRBNY get through the day in good shape and the market looks to close green.  One part of the story that doesn't get nearly enough attention in this scam and coverup that Fiderer pointed to in his Monday article the simple fact that GS did all of their business with AIG and only AIG.  A $22 billion CDO portfolio exclusively with AIG in the summer of 2007?  New Century had already failed, the Bear Sterns Hedge Funds had gone down, the shit had hit the fan - many on this board were likely short up to their eyeballs AIG - and yet the smartest guys in the business were long up the their eyeballs exposure to AIG CDO counterparty exposure?  I guess GS can argue there was no other options and they had to hedge risk somewhere etc.  Everyone knew AIG was going down.  Normally that would cause one to reduce counterparty risk with that firm.  Whatever...

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:17 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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Now that this is out, GS has an opportunity to prove they were really "fully hedged" and that AIG could sink without leaving a stain in the water.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 19:47 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 Now that is funny.And the likelihood GS was protected is zero....unless they were referring to their boy Hank "the felon".

 Just when you thought politicians had the market cornered on lying every time their lips move!

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:59 | Link to Comment phaesed
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Truly wish I was better versed in CDO pricing, thank you for your effort on this.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:09 | Link to Comment Sancho Ponzi
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Among those who would have been hit the hardest:

Max 2007,2008: Deutsche Bank

Triax 2006-2A: Goldman (we don't need no stinkin' money) Sax

What a shocker

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Bubby BankenStein
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SIGTARP said today that Treasury reported to be $30B in the hole.  Depends on ultimate recovery on the CDO's.  Like who knows.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 21:11 | Link to Comment asteroids
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Now we know why UBS rolled over on all US citizens!

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:23 | Link to Comment milbank
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And guess where Phil Gramm, former Senator from Texas and author of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, the law that negated the Glass-Steagall Act, got a job after he left the Senate. . . . Hmmmmmm?

 

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:14 | Link to Comment ATG
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The doubletalk from every witness in today's

AIG panel, including Barofsky, was palpable.

There is no John Dean or Sam Ervin at least yet.

meanwhile, securities a sinkhole, CUSIPs or no...

http://www.jubileeprosperity.com/

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:15 | Link to Comment SuitablyIronicM...
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If you just look at Triax - Listed value $3.2 billion. Fair Value $1.7 billion (Fed report). That's an easy $1.5 billion

Plus another $13 billion listed in the schedule, makes a taxpayer funded profit of over $6 billion!

http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/annual/annual08/MaidenLaneIIIfinst...

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:16 | Link to Comment dot_bust
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From the people who brought you the bank bailout -- the Federal Reserve -- comes iPonzi. 

This brilliant new product transfers ALL the worthless mortgage-backed securities to the U.S. Dollar via the Fed's bank loan programs.

Yes, it's true! You too can be the proud recipient of the brand new iPonzi. It's better than the iPod or the iPhone. With the iPonzi, you get to watch your hard-earned savings evaporate through hidden inflation and massive unemployment.

The iPonzi comes complete with $23 trillion of mortgage-backed security storage space known as Federal Reserve Notes (U.S. Dollars).

Hurry! You must act now because foreign governments don't want the iPonzi. It is only you, the hard-working American taxpayer, who is eligible to receive the iPonzi. 

The first 300 million American callers also get...no Social Security or Medicare. That's right, you can pay for the lovely iPonzi with your social programs.

Safety net? Who needs a safety net. You have the iPonzi!

This message has also been sponsored by...AIG.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:02 | Link to Comment waterdog
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And do not try to get to your money markets, they are no longer yours.

 

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:45 | Link to Comment dot_bust
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True. Scary but true.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:23 | Link to Comment SuitablyIronicM...
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$6 billion just for the squid, of course.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:23 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Seriously, i don't believe the "implication" is that Bernanke will allow any toxic crap to be eligible collateral, likely at par.

I think one can safely say "it is FACT that Bernanke will allow any toxic crap to be eligible collateral, likely at par.

 

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:24 | Link to Comment max2205
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And why socgen, why did we save France for the 3rd fing time in 100 years....nobody cept BB likes those MF's

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:20 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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haaaaaaaaaaa! =)

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:25 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:28 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 19:00 | Link to Comment Screwball
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Wow!  Thanks for the link.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:28 | Link to Comment deadhead
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Thank you very much ZH for being all over this.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:54 | Link to Comment suteibu
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From what I heard today, nobody issued or structered it.  I think GS had a key to the back door and was just told to hit the lights and lock up when they were done.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:03 | Link to Comment spekulatn
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Great stuff TD,and Zer0Hedge. Beauty.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 20:50 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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You ask Obama when the criminals will be led out in handcuffs?!  Puhleeze.  Obama saw fit to appoint an obvious tax-cheat to head the US Treasury.  Obama isn't concerned about criminality, he is concerned about and focused on satisfying the needs of an enormous ego, the ego of that most peculiar fellow who stares back at him from the mirror.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
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Yet the critical question is: since there is not one security rated A, and in fact the median rating is a high C

Finally, proof that the pirates were indeed sailing on the high C's.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 23:51 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Isn't that also the note struck when kicked in the groin?

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 01/27/2010 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Bubby BankenStein
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I think the bank's issuing the CDO's should be required to eat their own dog food, especially if they themselves held it with AIG CDS cover.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 20:03 | Link to Comment laughing_swordfish
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Bubby:

It's not "dog food" it's USED DOG FOOD"!

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 20:57 | Link to Comment Bubby BankenStein
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They need to eat it anyway.

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 03:30 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 01/27/2010 - 19:56 | Link to Comment GlassHammer
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The problem I have and the problem others have mentioned is that GS is the majority of this list and its garbage is only rated at C. This means Bernanke had no standards when it came to paying for this junk and allowed everything to be paid at par.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 19:56 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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I sense a wiff of impropriety here but nothing that rises to unmitigated fraud. [/sarcasm]

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 20:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 20:23 | Link to Comment SpartanTnT
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absolute fraud, there should be criminal charges filed

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 20:29 | Link to Comment Blurtman
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Folks,

Here is the AIG timeline, beginning in the summer of 2007, for your review.  The graphic indicates the Goldmens' collateral calls.

http://www.propublica.org/article/article-aigs-downward-spiral-1114

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 21:27 | Link to Comment Transor Z
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I think the U.S. Taxpayers want to lick the tears of unfathomable sadness off somebody's face.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 21:44 | Link to Comment wesa
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I watched quite a bit of the Geithner/Paulson testimony and never heard anyone ask what I consider to be the single most important question. Question: Who authorized the action to make GS and SG whole? Someone at the Fed authorized it, so who was it if it wasn't Geithner? If he says he doesn't know then fire him, because it was clearly done on his watch.

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 03:08 | Link to Comment tom a taxpayer
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Like mob bosses, Paulson and Bernanke made the decisions and gave the orders. The underlings at the Fed, FRBNY, and Treasury carried out the orders. 

Intially, the government was hesitant to bailout AIG because of public anger about the series of Wall Street bailouts beginning with Bear Stearns. But AIG counterparties warned the Fed, FRBNY, and Treasury about the systematic risk of an AIG failure...systematic risk meaning cascading failures and ruin facing AIG counterparties (a.k.a. systematic crooks of Wall Street and big banks)

So, Paulson and Bernanke made the decision to bailout AIG counterparties by bailing out AIG. Of course, Paulson and Bernanke  do not handle the details of the payments, haggling with the Wall Street crooks over a few billions dollars here and there. Hank and Ben's culpability is far greater than a lowly bag man. Paulson and Bernanke are the Grand Architects of the payments to the counterparties. 

The Fed made the decision for a 100% bailout of AIG counterparties. Ben, as Chairman of the Fed, is 100% responsible for the 100% bailout of AIG counterparties. 

 

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 21:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 21:48 | Link to Comment BoeingSpaceliner797
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My, my, my this sure appears to be evidence of intentional debasement of US currency.  Consult the US Constitution for relevant punishment.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:17 | Link to Comment JR
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Taking Their Cut…at shareholders’ expense…

“Even now, after all those big bonus numbers, the pay-to-profit ratio for the financial industry might come as a surprise to many people. The five largest banks on Wall Street — Bank of America, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and Morgan Stanley — earned a combined $147.4 billion before paying compensation and taxes last year. They plowed back a combined $31.2 billion into their companies and returned a total of $2.1 billion to shareholders in the form of dividends. They paid $114.1 billion to their employees.” --NY Times

 

AILING BANKS FAVOR SALARIES OVER SHAREHOLDERS | The New York Times | Eric Dash | January 27, 2010  (excerpted)

A handful of big banks that are struggling in the postbailout world are, by some measures, the industry’s most magnanimous employers. Roughly 90 cents out of every dollar that these banks earned in 2009 — and sometimes more — is going toward employee salaries, bonuses and benefits, according to company filings.

…To compete with well-heeled rivals, banks like Citigroup are giving their employees an unheard-of cut of the winnings. Citigroup paid its employees so much in 2009 — $24.9 billion — that the company more than wiped out every penny of profit. After paying its employees and returning billions of bailout dollars, Citigroup posted a $1.6 billion annual loss…

Goldman, that highest of highfliers, is doing the unthinkable. It is giving its employees an unusually small cut of its profits — about 45 cents out of every dollar — even though its paydays will, in dollar terms, rank among the richest of all time… If compensation were spread evenly among the bank’s 36,200 employees, each would take home about $447,000.

But to keep up with the Goldmans, laggards like Citigroup are handing out fat slices of their profits, leaving little left over for their shareholders. Citigroup is, in effect, paying its employees $1.45 for every dollar the company took in last year...

Bank of America, meantime, is spending 88 cents of every dollar it made in 2009 to compensate its workers. At Morgan Stanley, that figure is 94 cents.

JPMorgan Chase, which has fared better than those three, paid out 63 cents of every dollar…

[S]ome analysts and investors say these and other banks are rewarding their employees at shareholders’ expense...

“The investor in America sits at the bottom of the food chain,” said John C. Bogle, the founder and former chairman of the Vanguard Group, the mutual fund giant. “The financial industry gets paid before their clients, and we get paid whether times are good or bad.”

...While banks are increasing salaries and bonuses for many employees, many have yet to restore dividends that were cut during the financial crisis.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/business/27pay.html

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:29 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I may be queen of paranoid, but if we are looking at and talking about this one, isn't it possible that they are throwing the dogs meat to satiate their hunger, but more importantly to divert us dogs from something far, far, worse.

I did something really, really, bad as a kid. I was not where I was supposed to be and my folks found out. I asked my pregnant girlfriend who I was not allowed to hang out with to say I was staying at her house. It worked. I got punished, but not nearly as bad as if they knew the truth about what I was up to.

This looks like it could be "spending the night at Patti's," when really you were out "vandalizing the whole neighborhood with the boys."

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:44 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 It is safe to say in this environment that the darkest stuff you can think up is probably true.Money laundering and equities market manipulation are a good start down the road to financial armageddon.Just the current stock market control is so outrageous and blatant one wonders why there are no arrests!The simple answer is that TPTB are conspiring to prop  up the ongoing gonzo ponzi.The fact the currency has zero value could be............problematic!

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 23:34 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Well, somebody reminded me about all the illegal weapon-running and drug money the other day...can we get an update on that?  I think that's more Citibank's department but maybe Goldman has diversified into letters of credit for, say, Israeli-South African-Iranian smuggling, or diamonds, or sex slaves, or children.

Think of the children...in shipping containers...

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 02:16 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 I can only say...think of the poppies in Afghanistan.So...much...cash......

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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He hears the silence howling --
catches angels as they fall.
And the all-time winner
has got him by the balls.
He picks up Gideons Bible --
open at page one --
God, he stole the handle and
the train it won't stop going --
no way to slow down.

--Jethro Tull

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 00:27 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Meanwhile back in the year One --- when you belonged to no-one ---you didn't stand a chance son, if your pants were undone.

`Cause you were bred for humanity and sold to society ---
one day you'll wake up in the Present Day ---
a million generations removed from expectations
of being who you really want to be.

--Jethro Tull

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 01:16 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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No, you're never too old to Rock'n'Roll if you're too young to die.

--Jethro Tull

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 02:53 | Link to Comment hidingfromhelis
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Now, they say they gave me compensation...
That's not what I'm chasing. I was a rich man before yesterday.
Now all I have left is a broken-down pickup truck.
Looks like my farm is a freeway.

Jethro Tull-Farm on the Freeway

 

Anyone else feel like TPTB are exercising eminent domain writ large?  As in Kelo v. New London, it was for corporate/private benefit, rather than public.  This time, they're just taking our money & giving it away.  Pfizer's little nickel & dime seizure pales in comparison, huh?

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:59 | Link to Comment glenlloyd
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Dear Mr. Friedman,

I have a right to know what kind of trash you've attached to my wallet. The idea that the tax payer would be hurt by knowing is utter nonsense. Tax payers have a right to know what their representatives have saddled them with. What's happened so far only further supports the fact that we're being conned.

Something smells like it's about to implode....am I wrong?

 

Thu, 01/28/2010 - 02:18 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 Re: are you wrong...No.

Wed, 01/27/2010 - 23:19 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 01/28/2010 - 08:41 | Link to Comment blindfaith
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I might as well go fishing, NOTHING will ever happen to anyone except the thieves will be living better than all YOUR childern.

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