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Alabama Jefferson County Chapter 9 Muni Bankruptcy "Very Strong Possibility" Says Governor Bentley

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Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:02 | 1464016 trav7777
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Diversity, bitchez

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:18 | 1464052 High Plains Drifter
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cut it out trav.

you know damn good and well, its all about ..... Liberté, Égalité and Fraternité......

by the way, i have a friend of mine who used to own a hummer dealership there. they had to change over to some other cars due to the demise of hummer. but the brothers liked to buy those hummers from the (black sales force he employed).......using those liar loans and so the bros could style and profile on their way back to the ghetto accomadations doncha know......remember from the movie white men can't jump.......its not about winning, but its really all about how you look.........ha ha ha..........

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:29 | 1464086 karzai_luver
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white men can't jump??? u shur homey?

 

How do they git into them thar jacked 4X4 mudders to hit the S'bucks???

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:48 | 1464133 wanklord
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Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue.The sooner the US economy collapses the better, so these brutes will finally learn NOT to live beyond their means.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 15:25 | 1464230 Ahmeexnal
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So it is Al-Abama the state to become the birthground of the north american marxist caliphate.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 15:37 | 1464271 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Martha's polishing the brass on the Titanic; it's all going down, man.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:50 | 1464141 High Plains Drifter
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oh come on numbnutts, you don't think that is funny?  a man driving around in a hummer, while living in a run down ramshackle house?  isn't that the way we all are in reality?  we all try to be something we are not? its called keeping up with the jones's and while we do this our nation is destroyed. black people bought into it, just like everyone else. it has been decades now, since the leadership of most of the southern cities fell into the hands of black people. has anything improved?  nope. will anything ever improve? nope. are they more crooked than whites?  nope.  frankly i am not in the hate department, myself. but i really get tired of diversity for diversity's sake etc.......i know full well whose idea all of this was and why all of this happened and was implemented. so if you yourself have a problem with my humor while i see things that happen, no matter at whose expense it is, then you can take a long walk on a short pier as far as i am concerned. and that , is my big ten four........good buddy........

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 17:10 | 1464543 delacroix
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fried chicken, watermelon, cadillac car, we ain't as dumb as you think we is

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:21 | 1465011 nodhannum
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What kind of fried chicken?  Doesn't sound half bad.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:01 | 1464971 Republi-Ken
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BLAME IT ALL ON 300 YEARS OF SLAVERY...

Dose Conservatives screwed America back in 1565...

And every City now pays the social cost of that.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:01 | 1464973 Republi-Ken
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BLAME IT ALL ON 300 YEARS OF SLAVERY...

Dose Conservatives screwed America back in 1565...

And every City now pays the social cost of that.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:01 | 1464974 Republi-Ken
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BLAME IT ALL ON 300 YEARS OF SLAVERY...

Dose Conservatives screwed America back in 1565...

And every City now pays the social cost of that.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:01 | 1464975 Republi-Ken
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BLAME IT ALL ON 300 YEARS OF SLAVERY...

Dose Conservatives screwed America back in 1565...

And every City now pays the social cost of that.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:01 | 1464976 Republi-Ken
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BLAME IT ALL ON 300 YEARS OF SLAVERY...

Dose Conservatives screwed America back in 1565...

And every City now pays the social cost of that.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:01 | 1464977 Republi-Ken
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BLAME IT ALL ON 300 YEARS OF SLAVERY...

Dose Conservatives screwed America back in 1565...

And every City now pays the social cost of that.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 21:06 | 1465092 trav7777
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yes, because the non-slaves in africa were doing so well at, like the time of Aristotle and shit.

It's ALWAYS whitey's fault, forever.  Every failure of a black is the fault of white people.  Forever.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:29 | 1465445 Lednbrass
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In theory I support your right to be a complete fucking moron but you really do abuse the privilege.  Whether you are a white guilt loser or entitled black loser doesnt matter, youre pretty much an oxygen thief either way.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:40 | 1464109 max2205
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AL Bazzoka........ Boom, !!

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:21 | 1464054 bob_dabolina
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The municipal bond market is racist. It must be run by a bunch of KKK leaders.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 17:00 | 1464520 Long-John-Silver
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If the KKK was still in charge of Jefferson County in Alabama you would not have this mess. The real problem is all the NAACP members running a corrupt government in Birmingham, AL. You see, all the theft and corruption has bit them on the ass and is dragging them off to the woods like a pack of wild dogs.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 22:54 | 1465323 LowProfile
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Can you blame them?

Hey, they finally got a piece of the pie...  Right before the ponz implodes.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 16:15 | 1464371 NumberNone
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Country rubes getting chump change bribes from carpetbaggers.  The story that started it all for those that don't know the background.  

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/looting-main-street-20100331

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 17:46 | 1464649 Bastiat
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Exactly! 

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 22:55 | 1465326 LowProfile
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+1

...Lest we forget.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:04 | 1464022 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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And Meredith makes an O face.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:26 | 1464075 knukles
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My thought pattern as well.
Works out peachie keen neato for everybody concerned.  To wit;

Meredith get to say; "See I toldja so." even though in this case she's right (bankruptcy) for the wrong reason (fraud, malfeasance, pay to play, etc.).

The politicians get to say; "See, we toldja, it's not the revenues, it's the banks."  Specious at best, but a good excuse as any.

The banks get to say; "See, it was all Morgan's fault, not us".

Morgan says; "Yeah, we admitted it and settled already, so piss off, mate."

And the resident of Jefferson County says; "Well fuck me, nothing ever changes. It should, the banks, politicians, lawyers, everybody should be skinned and hung.  But we really, deep inside never thought that anything would get fixed."

The rest of America says either; "Huh?"
or; "See I tioldja so.  The politicians are thieves and should be....tthefuckeveryourchoicepunishmentisinserthere.

And all that ends is not necessarily well, ever.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:27 | 1464077 knukles
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Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:29 | 1464084 Cognitive Dissonance
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LOL

Just because someone isn't right....now....doesn't mean they aren't right eventually. And if I remember correctly Meredith was talking about severe muni problems over a span of time, not that very instant. Of course, the Ponzi must declare anyone who isn't singing the praises of the Ponzi to be a heretic of the most evil and vile kind.

The Ponzi is (eventually) dead, long live the Ponzi. And long live Meredith for that matter.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 18:15 | 1464726 Blano
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She's right already IMHO.  Lots of them are bankrupt, just like the US is when you look at the numbers.  It's just all the can kicking that keeps them technically solvent.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 22:14 | 1465235 CH1
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Where do you think all that liquidity is going? It's keeping lots of small government orgs alive.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 15:38 | 1464274 equity_momo
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I reckon she'd be a right go-er.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:06 | 1464025 justanotherday
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US of B: The United States of Bankruptcy.

 

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:20 | 1464058 sitenine
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Debt is an American tradition.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:35 | 1464098 justanotherday
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Certainly is now. The US isn't what I thought it was. F'ng mess.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:45 | 1464127 Cognitive Dissonance
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I gotta ask.

What did you think the US was? Not picking on you since we all have/had our illusions at one point or another.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 18:18 | 1464736 Blano
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I'll bite if you don't mind.

I think it WAS the shining city on the hill at one point, or could have been especially during the Cold War.  At least that was my belief, the goal to strive for.  Not anymore.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 22:23 | 1465256 Chuck Walla
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And then the politicians discovered they could buy votes with other people's money. And its been down hill since.  Everybody's a victim and deserves a piece of someone else's paycheck.  How that logic ever worked I never did understand.  And the victimizing Sugar Daddy's hold ill gotten power by stealing from some and giving to others. Oh, and a little bit "sticks" along the way, like Charlie Rangel's Million Dollar realestate portfolio built on a Congressman's salary. Incredible money management skills there, Chaz!

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:07 | 1464027 PulauHantu29
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Let them reorganize in Bankruptcy....gets rid of all the rottenness out there....it'sa  fresh start over so we can move on to the future.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 16:49 | 1464464 Mr. Mandelbrot
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Yes.  That is what I want as a resident of Jefferson County.  The article seems to suggest all of Jeffco's financial woes stem from the $3.2 billion sewer debt, but that is only part of the story.  As for the sewer debt mess, (I'm going off of memory on these numbers, but they should be pretty close) officials looking back into what got us into it have determined that the updated sewer system, which was mandated by the Feds at the EPA, should have only cost the county $900 million.  The other $2 billion plus was squandered through overcharging contractors who bribed corrupt local government officials (Google Gary White) and fat commissions to the financiers (JP Morgan the most notable) who sold the county auction rate bonds that went no bid during the financial crisis leaving the county paying a ridiculous double-digit interest rate overnight.  Two dozen or so government officials and contractors are now serving prison sentences for all of the shenanigans, yet the people and businesses here are still stuck with the bill.  Jefferson County got screwed in every orifice at the same time.  Currently, sewer rates are outrageous and run 250% of the water charges (if you use $20 in water, you're charged $50 for sewer for a total bill of $70).  The latest plan to increase revenue is to charge those with septic tanks a $400/year "non-user fee," which I won't be paying.

The other half of the story has to do with an "Occupational Payroll Tax" that was recently ruled unlawful by the Alabama Supreme Court.  Instantly, an already cash-strapped county lost 30% of its income.  Overnight, they had to cut a large portion of county employees including closing all of the satellite DMV's throughout the county.  Anything to do with drivers licenses, car tags, titles, property tax, etc., etc. now has to be done at the main branch in downtown Birmingham.  I just had to renew my drivers license and the line was almost four hours!  We are definitely in a financial morass--some of it self inflicted because a bunch of dumbasses down here keep electing crooks, and some of it a result of the soulless predators at JP Morgan ensnaring us with auction rate securities.  Come what may, but Jeffco should default and put (at least some of) the consequences of the sin on at least one of the sinners (JP Morgan) . . .

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 22:44 | 1465301 Tangurena
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Don't forget that the EPA required a sewer system that met specs no other sewer system has ever had to meet: exactly 0% of rainwater runoff could make it to the river without going through the sewage treatment plant. It would have cost a lot less to stand up to them and just say "no".

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:07 | 1464030 blunderdog
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They should've known that whole indoor-plumbing thing was overrated.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:26 | 1464076 Careless Whisper
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It's Alabama. You explain things to 'em in simple language.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7jsx9_my-cousin-vinny-counter-offer_fun

 

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:07 | 1464033 The Architect
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"Bentley said his view of bankruptcy -- an unpopular option because it is expensive"

Bankruptcy = Expensive

Indeed.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:14 | 1464036 Debt Rolling
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Postponing bankruptcies is a risky bet on an economic pick-up.

If this economic "recovery" does not come, then you're worse off than before (thus the expression "buying time"). Detroit learnt it the hard way. Betting on a miracle rather than trying to equilibrate your budget is sending you right to the grave. 

I'll remember everybody that when the "decision makers" in 2008 unleashed the greatest amount of government support and intervention in the history of mankind, they were expecting results for this horribly risky bet to pay off. Unfortunately, the "recovery" didn't come: now is the time to pay the colossal bill, because all bullets have been fired.

The "muni massacre" will come, eventually, and then the "federal massacre". In 2012, 2013 or 2014, I don't know, but my experience teaches me that it often comes when people expect it the least, and when nobody believes in it anymore.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:31 | 1464090 karzai_luver
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yep.

 

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:43 | 1464116 max2205
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Nope, sorry, Fed has to go first because they'd never let them blow up unless their hands were tied

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 22:49 | 1465313 Iam_Silverman
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"If this economic "recovery" does not come,"

But I thought I read in Barron's that we are now firmly in our second year of recovery!  Do ya' think they might have called it wrong?  Unless of course the "recovery" was based on when the bankers overly generous bonus pool was once again returned to record levels.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 23:18 | 1465358 StychoKiller
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They had a choice:  "Do what is easy or do what is right". Guess which was their choice.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:10 | 1464038 El Oregonian
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It's hard to tell which one is sewer...

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:11 | 1464041 Blano
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Geez they've been draggin this one out forever seems like.

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