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Beautiful short for tomorrow till 14.60
If by short you mean long then yeah.... You could short AA tomorrow...
Thats what im telling , selling and reverse the news.
Can't anyone hit their massively guided lower whisper numbers, anymore?
I mean, that game is old and expected, but it was working, and now they can't even get the trick number right so as to come in with a beat?
Maybe Coca-Cola is none too happy with Alcoa's little wink-wink reverse storage fee rebate scam that Alcoa's working with the Squid re the LME Warehousing thingamigbob (as in lawyering up).
And what is up with Novellus?
Sheeeeesh!!!! These are rookie mistakes! The consensus should have been 7c-13c.
07-11 16:51: Novellus sees Q3 EPS 60c-75c vs. consensus 87c
Whisper number was .40. AA should sell off.
beat this bitchez! edit: sorry, thought I was first :>(
Ponzi on Wayne....
Ponzi on Garth
I think i'm going to hurl...
ALCOA INC (AA:US): Board of Directors - BusinessWeek
Holding it for now. AL bitchezzz
Party on excellent!
Beer cans, alcohol sales always go up in a depression.
smaller comfort items basically across the board.
Recycling is up, too. The number of self employed canners and scrapers has grown exponentially, and they are not included in the official government employment numbers. Obama and the BLS should take note of this surge in "green job" entrepreneurship (maybe post some people down at the local scrap metal yard?).
AA consensus $0.34, actual $0.28
'Transitory' reduction in CAN KICKING needs whilst debt ceiling issue is in limbo...
Expect 'positive guidance' in the conference call...
But cans are made out of Aluminum.. wouldn't "Can Kicking" be bullish for Alcoa... Duhhhh... :)
Just remember always... The TOTUS said it himself...
"YES WE CAN!"
Most peeps just failed to truly understand it 1st time around
2012 slogan... "YES WE (KICK THE) CAN!"
yes we can! = thank you Satan backwards
i think if they are not being sufficiently kicked, they tend to get re-cycled, and the price plummets, due to huge new supply.
SPY futures up. We are back in bizarro world.
Help me out here. Why is that bizarro when one of the shining benchmarks came out solid in earnings? Alcoa is usually a measure of the earnings.
Just trying to understand what I'm missing or is it all just doom and gloom regarless of the reports...
Off by 6 cents? Believe it or not that's pretty huge. Forcasting an increase in sales into the 2nd half is just that.
Consnsus was .32
Yeah for about a week. If earnings were next week consensus would have been .28 and touted as a great report. Fun and games with the earnings releases once again!!!!
I see... that makes sense. revise down eps, revise down, up to last minute then beat. But in this case they could only meet the last revision. But on the revenue side they beat pretty well, and that is usually more desirable to long term investors because it demonstrates future growth.
I guess the question I am getting at is:
A. Is this a beat?
B. A miss?
C. Neutral news, nothing to see move a long?
Alcoa is a measure in resources (Al). When the price is up they do ok. Though there is alot of Al..it is a finite resource.
The numbers themselves don't matter. All that matters is the reaction to those numbers, numbers, price is the last word.
So would not AA start a chain reaction of optimism in the markets since supposedely AA is a litmus test on how the rest of the S&P does?
barry aka barrack was not listed on the joint state of Hawaii tax return in 1974. only "maya" was.
barrack is the first black president
the media luvs him. he s tefflon
whatever shady sh1t he did...he wont get caught until way later
sort of like jordan and his pornstars
OK... last time...
This is drugs... This is your brain on drugs (in a teflon TOTUS frying pan)... Any questions?
And yet here is a picture of him with the whole family, and more pictures of what appears to be a creepily Obama-looking young version of Obama. Is this a shill site? Are all these pictures fake? Is he really who he says he is? Things just don't add up?! ;)
Market for tinfoil appears to be up...
must be the new hat makers. must zH readers have drawers-full, boxes of the stuff, already, eh?
New buyers from the EU...
I have to have something to simmer my brats in on the grill.
its all about the commodities
Alcoa's results were bolstered by a growth in sales of tin foil hats.
I got me a few last week.
Remember, they don't work if they're not properly grounded... :)
Cisco preparing to axe 5,000 employees?
not a jobless recovery just a lessjob recovery
just face it already...
It's a 'recoveryless recovery'...
Aluminum can recycling is at an all-time high. Silver bitchez! Er, I mean Silver BULLETS bitchez!
Coors Light Cans, for those playing at home.
I've had a crash course in manipulation the financial numbers a few weeks back.
But it seems that the most common way to create cash on the books is the demand payments from all clients within 30 days or risk a block and delay paying the supplier bills untill end of month after 3 months.
That's 120 days.
This shit is so common and creates a artificial cash reserve while the company is near comateuze.
The suppliers are actually "lending" interest free money to the companies.
And what can small suppliers do against a giant? Nothing. We make jokes about that.
But what's worse is that this influences the bookvalue of the companies BIGTIME.
Any shareholder that see "cashreserve of.... million" thinks: WOW THIS STOCK IS A DEAL! and they get suckerpunched.
The ceo gets the bonus for doing so and the small shareholder eats shit.
AND GUESS WHAT: IT TRANSLATES ITSELF IN NET PROFITS. WHICH DON'T FOLLOW THE TRICK.
Alluminium prices have only went up for the last few years
All cost have been taken into account in the last Q's
Restructering has made Alcoa more profitable
All investments have been halted for the last 3 years
Earnings doubled but profits didn't? That doesn't rime with the price increases and decreased costs.
Alcoa will take a dive tomorrow.
What you described is just balance sheet adjustments that don't impact the bottom line. Might make Cash Flow look differrent but shrinking receivables, increasing cash, + holding payments (increasing liabilities) is the same no matter where you move the numbers. The only thing that would do is give you better ratios on your assets.
Not trolling, just trying to understand where you are coming from.
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