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Algeria Protests Turn Violent As Demonstrating Maghrebians In Paris Join In Solidarity
As predicted yesterday, Algeria is "next." They just don't quite know it yet. The attached clip shows the first recorded clashes between demonstrators and police in Algiers. Certainly not the last.
And possibly a bigger issue, as Zero Hedge observed some time ago, is that while Egypt and Tunisia do not have major expat populations, Algeria most certainly does. In fact, those of Maghreb descent in France are estimated to be between 3 and 5 million: a potentially dangerous mix. Which is starting to materialize: as France 24 reports 'Hundreds of protesters gathered in the historic Place de la République
in Paris Saturday, calling for a "Free and democratic Algeria" in a
proud show of solidarity with Algeria's budding anti-government
movement."
Crowds gathered in Paris’ Place de la République Saturday in a show of solidarity with anti-government protesters in Algeria. The protests in the French capital came as thousands took to the streets of the Algerian capital of Algiers in defiance of a government ban on demonstrations to stage a rally calling for the removal of Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika.
Saturday’s protests in Paris and Algiers came the day after Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak stepped down following an 18-day popular uprising in the world’s largest Arab nation.
In Paris, protesters called for a “Free and democratic Algeria!” and held signs demanding that Bouteflika “Get out!” From the bed of a truck, people were invited to take turns at the megaphone, while people danced and chanted as music blared over loudspeakers. Egyptian and Tunisian national flags rippled in the air alongside Algeria’s emblematic green, white and red flag, in a proud show of Arab solidarity.
Nearly a month ago, Tunisian strongman Zine al Abidine Ben Ali fled into exile, sparking speculation over whether Tunisia’s far larger and wealthier western neighbour could turn into “the next Tunisia”.
Bouteflika, who has served as Algeria’s president since 1999, has come under pressure from opposition groups and many ordinary Algerians demanding democratic reforms.
The problem with all these concerted uprisings first in north Africa and soon everywhere else, is that as countries gradually convert to "democratic" regimes (no rush there though- they will likely go through several iterations of puppet governments of the deposed administration), the great experiment in globalization, in which repressive, yet America-friendly regimes fall, is about to be turned on its head.
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DOWN WITH REPUBLICANS
DOWN WITH the OBAMANATION
DOWN WITH AUSTRIAN SCHOOL GHOULS
MsCreant, the math is this:
One plus one equals, eventually, 6.8 billion. For the Creationists and biblical strict constructionists out there, that means we're a species founded on incest, which probably explains a lot.
What are we all going to do? Is there such a thing as a fair and equitable distribution of resources? Nature did not distribute resources evenly, either geographically or individually, in everything from oil to intelligence, so why should society hold itself to a higher standard than nature or "god"? Is that what "humanity" means? Are we collectively responsible for every broken condom or someone else's biological irresponsibility? Do I have to share my seedcorn with my neighbor because his wife popped out, with his minor assistance, ten hungry mouths? Is the lifeboat already full? Should we revoke Darwin? Who has the right or the authority to decide what constitutes fairness? Do we even have the luxury of asking these questions on a finite planet?
Is there a Mako in the house?
I dont know that we (funny when you have troubles when others speak for you, not when you speak for others) but through your analysis, you clearly revoked Darwin.
The issue is way beyond the standard needs of a human being so at this point...
You know what is wonderful about this exchange? Unless memory fails me (if I am wrong, I am sorry), I believe Chindit13 works with impoverished children. All is not as it seems. There is what the math and the mind tell us, then there is the heart.
Love is the plan, even inside destruction. Kali will have flesh and bone and body to devour and life will move on.
"Love is the plan, the plan is death" James Tiptree Jr.
A female author who used a male pen name to get her work published.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCGwj0wlb_0
Don't you know - we got smart bombs - it's a good thing - that our bombs are clever
Don't ya know that the smart bombs - are so clever - they only kill bad people now
Don't you know - though our kids are dumb - we've got smart bombs - what a joyous thing yeah
Here we go - so let's drink a toast - to those clever bombs - and the men who built them
There they go now - there go all my friends
There they go now - marching off to war again
With their bright flags - waving in the wind
There they go now - marching off to war again
Smiling proudly - with their heads in the clouds
Don't you know this is better than - any video friend - it's an action movie
Here we go - watch the bad guys - get their butts kicked - really makes me feel good
Here we go - watching CNN - the adrenaline - rushes through my veins
Don't you know - it's a feel good show - electronic bliss - It's a video, a video...
Aren't you glad we got smart bombs - it's a damn good thing - that our bombs are clever
Such a shame that our kids are dumb - but our bombs are smart - what a lucky thing now
Don't ya know it's a feel good show - and it's suitable - for the whole darn family
Come on out - everybody shout - give a big salute - to our ingenuity
Don't you know this is better than - any video friend - it's an action movie
Here we go - watch the bad guys - get their butts kicked - really makes me feel good
Don't you know it's Nin-ten-do - really gets the blood - running through my veins now
Don't you know it's a feel good show - electronic bliss - It's a video, video
There they go now - there go all my friends
There they go now - marching off to war again
With their bright flags - waving in the wind
There they go now - marching off to war again
Smiling proudly - There they go now - there go all my friends
There they go now - marching off to war again
With their bright flags - waving in the wind
There they go now - marching off to war again
Smiling proudly - with their heads in the clouds - see them smile now - marching off in lines
I'm am heartened by the response of the civvies at ~0:39...THAT is civic virtue.
That looks like a lotta fun. Riot tourism anyone?
I foresee a huuge market in designer bread-helmets! :>D (I crack myself up!)
I'm so happy none of this is getting really violent. Though all the egypt deaths and police deaths were pretty bad.
It will be interesting to see what the reaction is now... in the U.S. when Law Enforcement fires into a crowd, as opposed to Kent State say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyzoNCJvy4c
the dry test runs to numb the idiot sheepeople masses with Waco http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6765270087708355283# or the like... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9-Ih4H70MM&feature=related
Perhaps France should transport its Algerian protesters back to Algeria so they can take part in the real thing.
I can't help but wonder what a billion Chinamen are thinking about this.
Wonder no more. If the Chinese leadership wants the Chinese people to have an opinion, they will give them one.
Maghreb's financial and cultural contribution to France?
Not much.
They can pack up and leave anytime if they don't like it. After 2005 there's absolutely no more love for them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banlieue
The real question is what to do with mass amounts of people that do not want to work, do not want to fit in, just do not fit the mould? Keep feeding them and supporting them when there's not even as much as a "merci beaucoup" coming back? .. It's not like we would have to reinvent the wheel here. France could do with a good cheap workforce and a few public work programs.
So people who call for freedom and democracy are people who do want to fit in, are unable to fit the mould?
Indeed.
None of these people calling for "FREEDOM" are incarcerated anywhere.
You must be mistaken.
Their call for freedom maybe means a call for more free goodies.
No work and even more luxuries.
The French have their work cut out for them.
Junk.
Every retort you make today is the same. Are you in the fifth grade? I know you are but what am I?
The same action call the same reaction.
Why do you want a change in retort when people fail to explain how people calling for democracy and freedom is a sign of multiculturalism?
Then why has it been owned and controlled by French Capital for nearly 200 years?
Its interesting how fast Europe is getting involved, and big time. But not suprising.
After events in Tunisia and Egypt, caused by 2008 Great recession crisis, and the ones that will follow, do You not see that the probability of a popular uprising in the USA against both Republican and Democratic elites , crony capitalism has increased? The model of informed youth and middle class popular uprising is so obvious for anyone to miss.
The immediate impulse will be economy, of course. The USA economy is over-leveraged to the supreme degree, and it can not continue to withstand external shocks that , of course will continue to come. Increasing USD value because of instability plus increasing oil prices due to instability in oil producing regions. The elites of the USA will not be able to stabilize it by printing more money, because the 2 above factors combined invalidate both export potential and increase trade deficit, eating GDP away.
Who will most likely lead such an uprising, or rather, be a figurehead since such uprisings do not need to be controlled by leaders, as we have seen? Sarah Palin, from where I sit. She has the fighting spirit and , not surprisingly, she uses Facebook and Twitter to communicate with her supporters/like minded people. The common enemy will be the FED and Wall Street, and government and both parties in general. But, and again just look around, not the army and military. Not in increasingly volatile world. It reads like an open book. The only thing missing is economy tanking, double dip, and Fiscal deficits and FED presses will see that it comes very soon, as well that inflation and instability is exported to the furthest places of American interests on this planet. From then on, I see no problems for third party take over of Congress, Senate and Presidency.
Just in time for 2012 elections.
China moves back into communist system, with middle class eliminated, factories nationalized, peasants providing foof for workers making arms. History of Soviet Union, 1929-1937, repeated version in China as repeated crisis strucks.
Events are just one small sea away for Europeans.
Looks more like a giant rugby match or a slow-moving mosh pit.
There are clearly different force continuum policies being followed in Algeria. No baton strikes, no CS gas canisters being fired, no attempts at large-scale arrest. It's like the police know that they're outnumbered, and are being collectively cautious WRT their behavior.
FREE ALGERIA!!!
FREE AMERICA!!!!
Play Freebird!
FREE YEMEN!!!!
http://www.google.com/#q=yemen+riots&hl=en&prmd=ivnsu&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=Gf9WTdmUDMq4tweN66SBDQ&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CDcQqwQwAQ&fp=d11815aa766760e6
Do you like Egypt, Algeria and Yemen? Take them as nos. 51, 52, 53. They will love you.
The French police don't dare to go into the projects that surround Paris (and other major French cities) at night. Those young immigrants have already shown that they are a ticking time bomb and this will set them off, guaranteed. I can easily see large parts of Paris and other cities burning.
Oh, and then there's all those nuclear power plants all over the country. I wonder how well protected they all are? All it would take is a determined strike on one well-situated nuke to poison the entire country with radioactive waste. Wonder how many disaffected immigrants are members of the French military - like the Air Force for example? Just one - all that it would take. This could get very out of hand very quickly.
In fact, those of Maghreb descent in France are estimated to be between 3 and 5 million: a potentially dangerous mix. Which is starting to materialize
Do you mean metasticize?
thousands took to the streets of the Algerian capital of Algiers ... to stage a rally calling for the removal of Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika
Wasn't his last gig dating the Long Island Lolita?
Marseille is the most northern city of Algeria. It is a wake-up call for France.
i still maintain,i am amongst mere mortals, here on zerohedge. excuse me while i kiss the sky.
Ron Paul Won CPAC Again for the Second Year in a Row!
DOWN WITH REPUBLICANS
DOWN WITH THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY
DOWN WITH 911 APOLOGISTS
Junked
Time to stick a cherry bomb under your hat:
http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/
How much gold do they have available to steal.
I would guess the price for Mubarak's exit was quite a few bullion bars handed over to just the right players in London and New York. Did I say quite a few, I guess we'll know the real amount when the finally tally in Egypt is published.
If you ask me, and I know you're not, I would rather have the gold, let the peasants fight over the crumbs called democracy.
A French friend who lived in Paris told me when going to the building complexes to visit someone, the Arabs living there would not let any French use the elevator. The buildings were many stories, so it was a task to get up. Only Arabs, of course the women had to wear the veils, not sure about the French women. That was back in the 90's. I cannot imagine it is any better now.
Has anyone noticed that instead of the whole middle east erupting at once this seems to be happening only piecemeal, country by country.
When this is all over I'd like to get a count of those countries that erupted which had gold carted out of the country compared to those that erupted with no significant reserves of gold.
A "crack" in the Fed's meltup "dam"?
Black Swan looming?
Mideast unrest with spillover into Europe and USofA?
What was said before is true. Multiculturalism failed in Eurabia I mean Europe. There is 751 no go zones in france. Now what i fear that Europe will be one big ass Yugoslavia in the next two-three decades. I for one am not a neo-con,or someone who hates Islam. However when a group of people do not a ssimalte it will lead to enclaves and that will lead to Balkanization,then civil war. Right wing nationalism is on the rise with a youth arab bulge in Europe. this will not end well. In the US we have the same thing,look at the south west. When you do not assimilate in your host nation it leads to tension and chaos.Europes future is dim and when the euro collapses this will only make things worse.
Why is it Sarkozy the jew and member of Mossad in good standing, can get up and say that multi culturalism is not working, yet some nationalist Frenchman gets on the news and says that , he is immediately branded a racist? Why all of a sudden are all of these European leaders saying this stuff now, after all of these years? I think they are trying to get a race war started.
Thousands of Algerians defied a government ban on protests and a massive deployment of riot police to rally in the capital Saturday, demanding democratic reforms a day after similar protests toppled Egypt's authoritarian leader.
http://www.npr.org/2011/02/12/133706545/thousands-turn-out-for-anti-govt...
Yemeni protesters beaten, thousands march in Algeriahttp://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2011/02/13/2003495758
Algeria's police crack down on protestershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdnp3qvMFwU&feature=player_embedded#at=91
Italy declares immigration emergency
(AFP) – 16 hours ago
ROME — Italy's government called a humanitarian emergency on Saturday after thousands of asylum-seekers sailed across the Meditarranean from Tunisia, overwhelming authorities on a remote island.
http://tiny.cc/scdh2
Pakistan Issues Arrest Warrant for Musharraf in Bhutto’s Killinghttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/world/asia/13pakistan.html
France Seeks More Defense Ties With Saudi Arabia, Arab News SaysFrance wants to expand its military ties with Saudi Arabia by upgrading the kingdom’s navy and cooperating on air defense, Arab News reported, citing French Prime Minister Francois Fillon.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-13/france-seeks-more-defense-ties-...
Egypt, Kashmir protests similar: PDP
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Egypt-Kashmir-protests-similar-PDP/Article...
Iran's opposition planning protests
Seemingly emboldened by events in Tunisia and Egypt, opposition leaders call for anti- government rallies on Monday.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/2011212162526150718...
Algerians are Berbers aren't they? They are not Arabs. They are converts to Islam since the days of the Islamic conquest of North Africa. Th reason why so many of them are in France is because it used to be a French colony and the stupid French had this idea, that they could make them all good Frenchmen and so they opened the door to immigration to the mother land. Boy was that a big mistake.
Could just as easily be Irish, Greeks or Bolivians who get the Royal Job by their Leaders.