America Is Being Raped ... Just Like Greece and Other Countries

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spritch's picture

Great article I couldn't agree with you more.

ebworthen's picture

 

Progressive versus Capitalists - a pointless argument.

Both liberal socialists and conservative crony capitalists are taking us straight to hell.

Government health-care for everyone but McDonalds and other corporate bedfellows of elite politicians can be excluded from the plan?

Brave conservatives who voted to bail out Wall Street and set the example that you don't really have to pay your debts as long as you have some "little people" to socialize the losses too?

These sides and people are of the same beast, of the same stripe, attached to the same scaled body that reeks of bile and rotting flesh; a two-headed hydra that promises a ride to paradise then in flight rips the riders in two - one head getting each half.

Both sides are elected by contributions from banks and corporations and universities; both sides allegiance is to their cronies and to themselves - constituents are cannon fodder, tax revenues, and votes to perpetuate the decption and tyranny.

Our system of government is completely broken, a shambles of lust, of greed, and of excess enacted by a population of narcissistic and juvenile leaders; a cult of sophistry and equivocation that oppresses the just responsible individual while feeding the selfish irresponsible louse.

 

divide_by_zero's picture

More progressive drivel.

snowball777's picture

Don't forget that jackhole governor from Florida trying to privatize your peepee.

fleur de lis's picture

For all intents and purposes we lost our country in 1913 when the traitor president Woodrow Wilson sold our country to the Rothschilds and their hive of central banker/looter friends. Too late he realized he'd been had when he said, 'I have betrayed my country."

Since then the central bankers have used the Federal Slush Fund Reserve to plan and fund wars, revolutions, and societal financial collapses at will. They have been roaming the world creating disasters and leaving rivers of blood since 1789, that was theirs, too.

And amid the devastation all around us, the parasitic central bankers - who own our military - see fit to use and abuse them by planning to re-fit the island of Guam as a massive and permanent Navy base over the bitter objections of the populace.

Don't be surprised if they are quieted down with a HAARP induced response.

Meantime we are subjected to lurid stories about a scrawny DC pervert with wierd sex problems and his cyber tramps. As if that's something new out of DC.

The central bankers could not get far without official complicity, so inept and vice-prone officials are particularly valuable to them, for their sex, money, addiction, etc., vices are fed and hidden in exchange for signatures on treaties, policies, etc., that the electorate does not want.

These scandals may be news to us but they are carefully nurtured and protected by Parasites, & Co., Inc. to keep their pols in line and policies legislated.  

The BIS was conjured up by these same parasites to buy assets for nothing after a disaster that they planned. It should not be called a bank, it is just a front operation for a financial crime syndicate, same as narcotics traffickers use to launder their money.

Central bankers and narco thugs share that commonality in order to do business, because they cannot produce honest work.

Until professional bankers understand that severe regulations and restrictions are penned by the miscreants who are deliberately eroding the system in favor of marxism, and that loans and agreements from central bankers are essentially elaborate hoaxes and scams and should not be paid back,  and until the bank parasites, and their aphid political addicts are ID'd and cleaned out, the r'g will continue.     

i-dog's picture

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"These scandals may be news to us but they are carefully nurtured and protected by Parasites, & Co., Inc. to keep their pols in line and policies legislated."

One of the key measures used to control their weak servants ... invite them to "come inside...you are special" at Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove and Skull & Bones each year, then get them to join in the Bacchanalian romps and confessions with all kinds of perverted 'rituals' and file the evidence away for later use. (Later they are reminded: "You stray from the reservation, boy, and we'll destroy both you and your family name").

"same as narcotics traffickers use to launder their money"

Not just "same as" ... TPTB make most of their money FROM narcotics trafficking and other illegal activities. That's WHY they're illegal ... so that there is no competition for the TRILLIONS of dollars in off-the-books, non-taxable income each year. They even use their [owned] governments as enforcers of their monopolies. It's how most of the wealthy families originally made their fortunes! To quote de Balzac: "Behind every great fortune is a great crime"!

jackbooted gauleiter's picture

You only own what you have and can hold. That is why man invented government. It was to protect us from outsiders who want to march in and take our wealth. That is why the best rulers were ruthless psychopaths, because they were best at keeping the tribe down the road out of our fields and away from our daughters...  and the best at marching into our neighbours fields so we could steal their wealth and take their daughters.

War is not a good model. It is destructive, we want to steal our neighbours' wealth, not destroy it. It's so much better to set up a protection racket. So that's what we do, and our tribe simply demands tribute from the neighbouring tribes.

Nothing has changed from this primitive model to today's governments. They are still run by psychopaths (no sane person would endure all the political infighting or would run for office); they still demand tribute;  and they still protect us from external tribes.

But here's the question... who are the external tribes whom our government both protects us from and also threatens and pillages? The French? The Chinese? The Canadians? Georgians? Virginians? Jersey men?

Other tribes are people who are not like us. That is what makes them another tribe. If we are like bankers, then people who are not like bankers are another tribe, and it is good, decent, right, just and proper that we exploit them. If we are rich east coast plutocrats, then people who are not rich east coast plutocrats are our prey.

What tribe controls the government? That is the tribe that the government is protecting, that is the tribe that the government exacts tribute on behalf of.

Element's picture

Preface: The war between liberals and conservatives is a false divide-and-conquer dog-and-pony show created by the powers that be to keep the American people divided and distracted.

 

Privatization in Australia was sold to us as a massive improvement in efficiency and services.

It was pure bullshit, our public owned utilities, which were perfectly functional, viable, and provided fantastic public services, are now vastly indebted, and routinely overcharging and gouging, at well over 100% the price of the previous charges to the public and vastly outstripping inflation, (which conveniently excludes them in the fake and laughable Govt inflation measures, that are just designed to hide the theft that is occurring).

So we paid to build it, and maintain it, and staff it, and train the employees, the indebted Govts, who refused to budget responsibly and were too full of themselves to admit their total failure to govern, then sold these EXCELENT public assets in what can only be called a complete failure to act responsibly for the longer term public interests.

And now we are paying for it all AGAIN ... and the services these utilities provide are VASTLY more expensive.

How the fig is this 'privatization' more efficient?

It is more efficient, but only at gouging-out the public ever-more each year, as wealth is transferred to private pockets instead of to the revenue stream, so the budgets are not repaired ... and the cupboard is bare.

The whole PPP and privatization circus by successive failed state and federal govts, has been a massive PUBLIC THEFT, and nothing more, and there's no end in sight to the insanity of it, still be pumped by shills and absolutely unforgivable dupes and 'politicians'.

Privatization has been a massively destructive  G L O B A L   P L A G U E -  and any residual pretending that it isn't is quite laughable to an observer of the effects of it on actual communities.

We can afford to live extremely well, and very comfortably, and happily, but the No.1 problem here is everyone wants to just PRETEND we are more capable of spending than we are actually able to manage.

The banksters simply created and fanned this 'affordable credit' delusion to create the political conditions for this great privatization rip-off to occur, and be maintained, and the politicians are far too gutless to honestly admit they were TOTALLY WRONG ... so the circus of stupidity and theft continues ... when NATIONALIZATION is the real solution to what these theives have done to the people and the country.

 

 

PS: Macquarie Bank are the biggest pack of remorseless Bankster theives in Australia - the worst of the worst scum there is - buyer beware.

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Dont forget those pricks.

i-dog's picture

The problem is not privatisation, per se ... it is the privatisation into a pseudo-free market cartel that is the problem.

Each of these privatisations (whether power, prisons or tollways) is a carefully managed oligopoly or cartel with massive barriers to entry for competition. All players are either on a government-approved list or are outright monopolies by government [rigged] tender.

The situation HAS been made far worse by the last few decades of rampant pillaging from the middle classes by TPTB -- whereby only the big players now have any money to invest in privatised infrastructure -- but a truly free market would still see innovation and new entrants nudging out the old dinosaurs in time.

Element's picture

In theory that maybe possible, but in experience it's not. My main point though is that it's not more 'efficent' or cheaper. It's been a disaster, people predicted it would be, and it is. And it was totally avoidable, and it also has no end in sight, as the effects go on for decades.

So in practice, privatisation is the problem when this occurs (this is not always true of course). People have simply been too willing to blindly accept that public-own utilities = evil incarnate. It's pure nonsense, and just a line fed to us by banksters as a way into our wallets.

In fact, historically, our public utilities were cheap (affordable), and efficient (affordable), and reliable as hell (affordable), and you didn't have to pay more than once (affordable), so your bills were low and predictable (affordable), and we all liked that. But the Free-Marketeers (who were almost universally visiting USA Financiers, elites and intellectuals BTW) came in in the late 1980s and 1990s to try and blacken the very idea of the public OWNING outright, via taxes, the utilities they rely on for a smoothly-running well-ordered community.

The truth is that if a party were to propose to re-Nationalise almost all former public utilities again, they'd have overwhelming public support, because the community knows this has been a disaster, for them, and these utilities were built to serve the needs of the community, they were NOT supposed to turn a profit, nor pay for failed-Govts' debts or to make bankers happy, or richer. I regularly discuss this in conversation with regular people, and they ALL agree, and no one EVER says they think privatisation has been a good thing, or has improved anything - quite the reverse. Everyone is appalled at it, especially those who have known earlier decades of public utilities (before they became mere 'assets' and considered saleable) as efficient reliable cheap services.

It is ONLY the financier marketeers who profit from asset sales who promote the opposite view, and all our pathetic govts are interested in is covering-up how BADLY they are at managing public finances and longer term interest of the voter, or else, how outright corrupt they have become.

I've heard all the privatisation arguments under the sun 'for the past quarter century, and I think they are just a smokescreen and a vehicle for political corruption and asset stripping that is profoundly anti-community interests and needs (not wants).

To me this is not about ideology or theory i-dog, this is about using what's healthy for the community, and serves their interests, and I'm not interested in the 'fix'-what-wasn't-broken BS of the privatisation clique, who have done so much unwarranted and inexcusable damage to our country and communities, and which is on-going.

jackbooted gauleiter's picture

You only own what you have and can hold. That is why man invented government. It was to protect us from outsiders who want to march in and take our wealth. That is why the best rulers were ruthless psychopaths, because they were best at keeping the tribe down the road out of our fields and away from our daughters...  and the best at marching into our neighbours fields so we could steal their wealth and take their daughters.

War is not a good model. It is destructive, we want to steal our neighbours' wealth, not destroy it. It's so much better to set up a protection racket. So that's what we do, and our tribe simply demands tribute from the neighbouring tribes.

Nothing has changed from this primitive model to today's governments. They are still run by psychopaths (no sane person endure all the political infighting or would run for office); they still demand tribute;  and they still protect us from external tribes.

But here's the question... who are the external tribes whom our government both protects us from and also threatens and pillages? The French? The Chinese? The Canadians? Georgians? Virginians? Jersey men?

Other tribes are people who are not like us. That is what makes them another tribe. If we are like bankers, then people who are not like bankers are another tribe, and it is good, decent, right, just and proper that we exploit them. If we are rich east coast plutocrats, then people who are not rich east coast plutocrats are our prey.

What tribe controls the government? That is the tribe that the government is protecting, that is the tribe that the government exacts tribute on behalf of.

BlackholeDivestment's picture

...so there is a corrupt body on the loose 

Corruption is; raping the Whore,  imprisoning the prostitute in the Whorehouse it built, and killing anyone that tries to arrest the Pimp. Deadly force is securing the Pimp and Rapist raping the Prostitute. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfs6wpjlu28

This does not sound or look like a political question or a systemic debate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9jHa-y24hM  This means war and we are all in the Whorehouse. The ''prophetic'' revelation of ''the strong delusion'' (brought upon this last generation because it does not love The Truth enough to recognize war ...when it is in it ...or, the generation is evil, offensive and just U.N.Becoming) declares people standing by, as the rape and death is happening, and they are too numb and dumb to realize they are Tyler ...standing in the mirror ...saying ''go screw yourself some more Bitchez'' 

                      ...not standing fast and doing no harm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxYsi5Y-xOQ

Sathington Willougby's picture

Somehow the free market is to blame?  Doubt it.  Show me a free market first.  Then we'll try to blame it.  If you're talking about a pumped up unregulated fake paper market, don't confuse that with a free market.  A free market can't exist with central planning.  PERIOD.

The whole premise here is government does something (besides wage war on everything and everyone) and we need to preserve it from, uh, the government.  Government is the great eraser of productivity and wealth, it consumes, homogenizes and crushes.  It's stealing at the point of a gun (IRS puts you in ass pounding prison for living free of coercion and pursuing happiness).

How about we live free and you apes and livestock get the fuck out of our lives.  You don't know fuck all about how to manage your own.

One thing you got right is Democrat and Republican shit for brains aren't fit to wipe.  So stop clinging to the ass hairs of the real humans.

That Max Keiser horseshit is just as bad.  You don't like the way useful idiots are getting raped by a government they insist is necessary, so you don't honor a contract you sign your name to.  We traded moral fiber for electronic gadgetry and a "living, breathing" law.  What a bunch of buffoons.

 

tony bonn's picture

mr president, today's comment was sublime.....thank you for writing.....the bankstercrats' goal is to revive feudalism and to subjugate americans to their debt and consumer slavery....

Pitchman's picture

Argentina provides a good template to what is happening in Europe.

In the post: A TALE OF TWO ECONOMIES: 2010; BUBBLE MACHINES AND GROWING ENLIGHTENMENT excerpts from: Two-Party Oligarchy Vs. The People - Amped Status, DUDE, WHERE’S MY JOB? - The Burning Platform, The Lull Before The Storm: What’s Coming in 2011 - Gonzalo Lira, Bill Moyers: Welcome to the Plutocracy! - Truthout, And interviews with Yves Saint and Bill Black are featured.

The conclusion is as follows:

Whether it be Argentina, Greece or Ireland; The IMF does the bidding for, and implements policies that favor, the groups it represents -Multinational financial institutions (Wall Street) multinational corporations and financial elites.   

The IMF, World Bank, Multinational Corporations and their amoral Bankster Overlords are the Monster Machines on the road to destruction.  Under the guise of a helping hand the reality is a wholesale transfer of public assets to these corporate fascist through a cabal of oligarchs, corrupt politicians and captured bureaucratic minions.  If there is any guise of a free market economy still in existence this transfer serves the final death blow. Having decimated third world countries on a planetary scale; their 'debt slavery' economic model is rolling North and West across Europe to devour their own. - Inflection Point 

A very good film regarding the World Bank and IMF's methodology is "Memoria del saqueo".  It is a harsh cautionary tale of a society where capitalism is manipulated to ensure profits for a few Kelptocrats / Oligarchs while loses and plunder are perpetrated on the populace.   It's a total condemnation of international banking, the IMF, World Bank and "The New World Order"!

See it here: Memoria del saqueo (Social Genocide) - Argentina: A Cautionary Tale

Only through unity is there a chance to bring down a culture of Sociopathic leadership. - Inflection Point 

 

Ponzi Unit's picture

Can anyone advise me, please, on buying silver coins/rounds?

Lowest buyback % under delivered price?

Lowest markup over spot?

Vendetta's picture

Well done GW.  Important, real and dangerous to this nation's future.

medicalstudent's picture

will it?

 

hasn't it already been?

 

they can try. they will fail.

 

 

Eireann go Brach's picture

"Max Keiser believes that Americans will simply stop making their mortgage payments en masse"...this is very very true! Americans see this as their own form of a personal bailout, by saying fuck the system and fuck the banks..the sheeple are not all stupid, they are beginning to see what is going on and are taking their own retribution! Look down your street, I bet 3 out of 10 folks are not paying their mortgage!

Hacked Economy's picture

As I've recently said in other threads here, two of my own brothers have done just that!  One simply stopped paying a couple of years ago, and the other one joined him a few months ago.  They're both still in their homes!  Of course, both of them don't care what happens to their FICOs or whatnot, since they're both financially inept and can't keep a budget balanced if their lives depended on it.

But me?  I have one of the cleanest credit records (and solid FICO) you've ever seen because I not only incur little debt, but I actually pay on time, and pay ahead of schedule.  In other words, I keep my word.  And yet I'm still looking at another few years on my mortgage while my loser brothers somehow got off scott-free.  What is UP with that?

Pitchman's picture

Great article: It is a daunting task to get the people to see beyond the insignificant divide of liberal and conservative; Red and Blue.  While the citizens energies are expended in this senseless battle, a small group of sociopathic fascist are methodically making chattel of us all.

The Kleptocrats control of 'mean stream' propaganda and use of obfuscation brings two quotes to mind:

“The most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.” Steven Biko

AND

“It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere.”- Voltaire

As Europe's banking situation worsens we are witnessing it's overt transformation into the Enslavement Zone!  This folks, is the tailor. The real thing is 'Coming Soon' to a town near you!

AL "I'm In Charge" HAIG SAID “LET THEM MARCH ALL THEY WANT..AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE PAYING TAXES."

With this in mind it takes little effort to conclude that Gandhi had it right when he said:

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

The Banksters are so far ahead it is time for the citizens to quit the game; forfeit!

See:

How Two Banksters Led Europe To Ruin -- AND REVOLUTION

Visit: Inflection Point

jomama's picture

what has this country come to when my privates are being privatized without my knowledge or consent?

apberusdisvet's picture

We're being invaded by govt psyops trolls.

theopco's picture

The entire government was privatized years ago, dudes. And you know what? I don't care. And I'd like to be someone important, like an actor.

Vic Vinegar's picture

Will people stand up and demand that the bondholders and other creditors take haircuts? No. Or will we all be scalped of our national assets, our pension funds, our money ... and our freedom?  Yes.

Until then, note that Terminator 2 is on AMC right now...

G. Marx's picture

Anyone who uses the lying Marxist Ms. Klein* to support their position, can kiss my ass. Thanks for saving me a bit more time in my daily life, I no longer have to read your essays here at ZH."

*(and if you want the proof Georgie, just ask. Apparently your "extensive research" comes to a complete halt when it doesn't jive with your ideology)

Freddie's picture

+1

It is hilarious.  He uses all these left wing sources like Dan Rather, Ellsberg, Wesley Clark, Huff Post, NY Times and Newsweak to try to support his rambling leftist nonsense.  Loads of lefty Dems realizing their boy Mugabe has destroyed America and they voted for him.  They post this sh*t to try to assauge their guilt.   All these evil bankers give money to their boy Mugabe.  

dexter_morgan's picture

"Apparently your "extensive research" comes to a complete halt when it doesn't jive with your ideology"

+66666

George Washington's picture

Nice use of numbers 4 and 5! 


Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

You, sir, are a Marxist (just look at your name!) ... I am not (I hate marxists).

G. Marx's picture

Not only are you lazy, you're a coward. I clearly stated that all you had to do was ask and I'd put forth the facts, instead you link to "Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation". What an ass.

Bubbles's picture

Another excellent and enlightening article, GW. 

The hard core objectivists can't stand it though because they believe privatization is a holy sacrament.  They're too busy rubbing one out while gawking over a photo of Ayn Rand to get it through their narrow minds that privatization (in this case) is nothing more than turning public assets over to private tyrranies for the destruction of the public interest.  Privatization of this type is the opposite of liberty.

And calling someone a Marxist is just their thought-termination-device of choice.  A way to closing off debate without having to think too hard

G. Marx's picture

Hey Bubbles,

I suggest you and Georgie do a bit of simple search engine research. You'll not only find out that's how Ms. Klein defines herself, but how self-professed Marxist find her to be one of their own.

Ms. Klein is either one of the most intellectually dishonest "journalist" employed today, or she's the most ignorant person in history to ever claim the mantle of intellectual.

You both can start here:

http://paulitics.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/naomi-klein-is-no-pseudo-socia...

then:

http://www.socialistaction.org/auciello35.htm

Then:

http://www.naomiklein.org/reviews/naomi-klein-s-excellent-adventures

All written by those sympathetic to Ms. Klein's views.

As for the lies in her book "Disaster Capitalism," this was one of a number of responses written by those who knew Milton Friedman:

http://www.cato.org/pubs/bp/bp102.pdf

Doing a search of Naomi Klein and Johan Norberg will give you the full give and take between them concerning his criticisms of her book and analysis.

Also we have a side by side comparison of Klein's "interpretation" of what Prof. Friedman said and what he actually said:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2kTy7glZ9s

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtehhsHVQlI

Who sounds the more authentic? Of course that question can only be answered if one watches the videos.

As a devotee of the Austrian School, I have serious issues with Prof. Friedman's monetary theories (along with his mentor, Irving Fisher), but for Klein to essentially charge him with lies, crimes and psychological manipulation of the public, just goes beyond the pale, especially when she waits for him to die to make these charges. Not only is she an intellectual cheat, she's a moral coward. Friedman was sifnificantly responsible for ending the US draft (he ran the commission studying the draft vs. volunteer army), he promoted the end to all governmental subsidies and the decriminalization of all victimless crimes.

As for her theory "Shock Doctrine" it was actually best embodied by a political and ideological sympathizer, Rahm Emanuel when he said: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste, and what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you didn’t think you could do before."

So Bubbles, try educating yourself in the future and speak from the facts, instead of letting others do your thinking for you. As to the both of you I leave you with a suggestion from ole Benjamin Franklin: "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Urban Redneck's picture

Naomi Klein is a cunt who couldn't find herself with both hands because her head is so far up her ass. 

She has unrivaled ability to focus on a single sentence, paragraph, or document and arrive at an utterly incoherent and incorrect understanding of an actual situation, and then find someone willing publish her intellectual incontinence.

It is a miracle that she hasn't postulated that the earth is actually flat, and the spherical earth theory is nothing more than a conspiracy of big corporate interests to drive up consumer costs.

Unfortunately, if one doesn't understand the causes of a problem, they are extremely unlikely to propose any sort of solution which could actually address or solve the problem.  When such stupidity is granted a veil of legitimacy, it acts as a hindrance to actual progress in the reformation of the relationship between government and big business.

 

G. Marx's picture

 

Hello? George? I am waiting for your defense of Naomi.

dexter_morgan's picture

Looking for miracles there. Sux that a guy using the moniker George Washington is so cluless about many, but not all, things.

G. Marx's picture

Talk about hit and run.

FWM's picture

Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) “Larry Summers hates infrastructure."

Pee-Dur commenting on anything having to do with economics is like John Edwards commenting on piety.  He could spend the rest of his life to maybe rise to the level of an anal wart, for all of the Truth, Beauty and Virtue he has given to world.

silverisgold's picture

Bullshit! Peter is a true 'citizen legislator' and well represents a part of Oregon that is known for it's self reliance, independent thinking & sustainable living. He was instrumental along with Ron Paul in proposing legislation to audit the fed. He did NOT vote for any of the bailouts or giveaways to the EE. He is unpretentious and sincere, and would do everything he could to help out a constituent no matter on which side of the fence he sits.

Branding Peter DeFazio a 'lefty or liberal' shows you are ignorant and pre-disposed to making superficial political stereotypes. He knows more about infrastructure funding & economics then anyone in Congress. He was chairman of the Transportation Committee for over 10 years, overseeing huge improvements to our transportation system. The same systems that the 'privatizers' now want to steal for pennies on a dollar, after all the 'peoples capital' and workers sweat has been committed.

His district represents a cross section of Oregon that includes loggers, fisherman, techies, farmers, hunters, fishermen, tree huggers, tea baggers, wingnuts, and your odd assortment of politically unclassifiable, but passionate patriots who care about this country, Oregon and their home.

Yeah, the govmnt sucks in way too many ways, but the people through the government & their own 'personal efforts' have accomplished some mighty great achievements (damns, roads, bridges, hospitals, schools, etc.) that every one of us benefits from every day. It was our forefathers and theirs before them who built this infrastructure & whose teat we all still suck on today. So many here complain about the govmnt and all it’s socialist programs, just as those who say "keep your government hands off my Medicare." I mean, this is fucking pathetic hypocrisy way beyond reason.

We are not going to bring down or change the system by sitting on our asses at our keyboards frantically spewing our opinions and political biases. ZH is a creative and inspiring place to gather ideas and share strategies, but just talking about the problems & creating divisiveness will never in itself solve them.

dexter_morgan's picture

But, he's a tried and true lefty and therefore on 'ol George's pedestal.

walküre's picture

I'm 100% in support of privatization.

IF that means that the size and scope of government gets reduced PROPORTIONALLY.

But that is mostly NOT the case!

Instead, government grows because the peons that work there get reshuffled and new jobs get created for no other reason than "work-programs". Welcome communism where 2 worker drones shared one job.

Don't complain about parking meters being privatized. The cost of parking was there before and is now being collected from a private group. What happened to the proceeds from the sale of the parking meter "business"? Did that reduce the tax burden? Doubtful!

Don't complain about it, just go after it yourself and buy a former public entity.

NotApplicable's picture

Given that government is nothing but the most organized form of crime, the idea that they own anything is a lie. It's all stolen goods (or bought with collective credit, another crime). So, from an ethical POV, I'm for privatization of ALL public assets. Problem is, in a moral world, the assets would be returned to owners (as well as the purchasing power stolen via inflation).

And here's the rub, there's no way to unwind this mess without making it worse! Because in both cases, it involves a transfer of wealth using A: political connections, and B: modern financing (the funny money machine). What will happen in this environment is the evil crony-capitalists will get real wealth at bargain rates with little outlay of their own.

In other words, it's just another twist on the wealth extraction operation called government, where today's solution creates tomorrow's problem.

RKDS's picture

"What will happen in this environment is the evil crony-capitalists will get real wealth at bargain rates with little outlay of their own."

I think a crony capitalist or one of their apologists junked you.