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An American Story
An early knock on the door usually means trouble. Today was
no exception. At my door were Ruth, Cesar and their son Danny. Their story:
Cesar is from Cuenca Ecuador. He came to the US illegally in
1998. His mother pledged her house to Coyotes for the ‘fee’ required to get
Cesar to US soil. That fee was
$8,000 plus interest at 10%. The
Coyotes delivered Cesar to Brownsville, Texas where he took a Greyhound bus to
NYC and finally he made it to his new home in Ossining NY.
Cesar was a hard working guy who had skills. He knew cement
and stone and he would dig holes with a shovel all day long. He worked six days
a week and paid off the Coyotes in just two years. There was plenty of work, no one cared much about illegal
aliens back then. Housing was easy to find. There were hundreds of illegals
arriving in Ossining and life was good.
Cesar had a wife, Ruth, in Cuenca. They had a daughter. In
2001 the process with the Coyotes was repeated. But the outcome was not as
good. Ruth was raped and abused on her trip to America. She spent several days
in an airless panel truck as it crossed Mexico. She thought she would die. She
was dumped at the US border, promptly caught by the Border Patrol and arrested.
In those days the policy was to release illegals that were not Mexicans. There
was no money to pay for a return flight to Ecuador. Ultimately she made it to
Ossining. I don’t think anyone fully recovers from an experience like that. Her
greatest pain was that she had to leave her daughter with the grandmother. She
has not seen this child for ten years.
Ruth got work and this couple did what many illegals did.
They got remarried in the Catholic Church and had a child. Their son Danny was born in the US and
therefore had automatic citizenship. The belief by the parents was that they
would be protected from deportation if they had a child who was a US citizen.
The re-marriage was a desperate attempt to prove that that they belonged here.
They got an official document, a wedding license from Westchester County. The only papers they had.
Ruth and Cesar worked for me. I don’t like this process but
it was very hard to find workers who could do the work that I needed. In an
effort to make this right I hired a lawyer for Ruth. I sponsored her to be
legal. I paid her wages and the taxes she would have been responsible for. She was officially in the Immigration
system five years ago. There have been no green cards issued for any of the
thousands of applicants. The process was an expensive waste of time. We tried
and failed to do the right thing.
Danny is a normal American boy. He speaks English perfectly.
He goes to the local public school and is a good student. He plays little
league and loves basketball. He does not play soccer. He wants to succeed at
American sports. He has never seen his sister. He can’t talk with her on the
phone because he has refused to learn Spanish.
Everything collapsed for this family in 2008. Unemployment
for illegals went from 0 to 50% in the course of months. They had stopped
working for me long ago. Their car was repossessed; they were behind in the
rent. They had gone through their savings from the good years. There was no
more money for food. To make matters worse the legal system was closing in on
them. The police were harassing them wherever they went. Employers were no longer hiring any illegals.
So they came to me this morning for help. They wanted two
things. They wanted the money for a plane ticket back to Ecuador for Ruth and
Cesar. They wanted me to take Danny and raise him until he was an adult. They were prepared to give up their son so that he would have a shot. I gave
them money for three tickets. I could not take Danny. It damn near broke my
heart to say no.
I know that there are many who will read this story and say,
“Good, they should not have been here in the first place”. And those people are
right. But the fact is that America is culpable in this disaster. We let this
Diaspora happen. It was not an accident that 10,000 people crossed our border
illegally every day for years.
The Cesars, Ruths and Dannys are leaving. In the general
area that I live the illegal population has been reduced by 40% over the
past eighteen months. That is the recession. For these people it has been a
depression. Cesar said before he left, “There is no opportunity in America any
more.” Maybe he is right.
The muse of this is that all of this happened because of easy credit. All that construction was from hot money. There were not enough workers as a result. But where there are jobs, people will come. Even from far away places like Cuenca.
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If America stopped interfering in other countries' affairs, stopped being the self-appointed globocop, stopped mis-micromanaging the world economy via it's control of the reserve currency, stopped manipulating world financial markets - those folks would most definitely not have been in America.
Oh, I hear ya Gordon. Call me dense, but I don't understand what is so difficult to understand about the generational wisdom that was passed to us in "avoiding foreign entanglements."
You are pointing to the same place I am. The root of the victimization on both sides of the border lies in America attempting to run a global empire.
The American empire is by the super wealthy and for the corporations at the expense of anyone who gets in its way; citizen and illegal immigrant alike.
I know that there are many who will read this story and say, “Good, they should not have been here in the first place”. And those people are right.
No they aren't. Honest, productive people belong right here--as many as want to come. The crime is standing in their way as the US immigration system does. To the economic illiterates who say immigrants steal jobs, I say nonsense. Immigrants have two hands and a mouth just like US citizens. They're consumers as well as producers.
For the most part these people are in the cash sector, so their primary contribution is working at lower cost. You're assuming that the value provided by an unskilled laborer is equal to or greater than the social costs - law enforcement, education, health care, population density etc. In a country where the government "creates" more jobs than the private sector, that is a bit of a stretch.
My I delicatly sugest, that pure evil set up his own blog site, as I think he has made his point on this one.
The issue is that as most indutries have now moved to a low wage country. I cant wait for some enterprising people to give legal and medical advise over skype, at $10 an hour.
As a LEGAL immigrant who had to go through all kinds of hassles to become a naturalized citizen, I have no sympathy for those who try or tried to stay here illegally.
I find it bizarre that you blame lax border enforcement. How about blaming the immigrants themselves?
Millions of people in the world would like to relocate in the United States. Immigration law, flawed as it is, is an attempt to deal with this situation fairly. The people you employed tried to steal an advantage over others who were not so unprincipled and opportunistic. They are comparable to people who jump the line at a movie theater--and manage to get in without paying.
may i ask which country you emigrated from?
No Bruce, they came to you for one thing. MONEY! That was their motivating force all along. Why else sneak into another country and engage in criminal activity.
You aren't a saint. You are a fool!
The simple truth is these people have been tragically been taken advantage of by the US government and large corporations within the US.
Now that they're no longer needed they're being kicked to the curb and told to fend for themselves. A tragedy yes, but we have millions of tragedies right here in the US being suffered by US citizens.
How many people through no fault of their own are losing their jobs and probably if the economic situation in this country gets worse maybe lose their homes.
We have tent cities springing up eveywhere, a government building FEMA camps in every state, a government trying to force a mandatory H1N1 vaccination upon its citizens, a government that is doing its best to eliminate the Consititution and the Bill of Rights.
Those people you helped were probably descent hard working people that only wanted a better life for their families. Most rural people from small villiages in countries like Ecuador are genuinely descent people unlike the corporate predators that took advantage of them.
I can only wish them well and safe journey to their homeland.
So pureevil: what do we do with all these illegals then? Do we give the ones that are already here papers and then shut the border down for good. Or, do we deport all of them?
Solution 1: those already here and only those here can have some sort of amnesty. If they have others abroad tough they could go through the immigration process. Then shut the border good by not allowing more illegals through. It is very possible, just put a few military divisions and it all ends.
Solution 2: deport most of them out of here. For example, cutting medical and social benefits to all illegals will send them out of here faster than ever.Also, mass deportations cause fear in effect making others leave. In California, up to 1 million illegals have left.
I support solution 1 because it is more humane and economically stable. If we get rid of 5 million or more people during a depression will only hurt the economy more. Thus, by giving amnesty to those already here AND BY EFFECTIVLY SHUTTING DOWN THE SOUTHERN BORDER we can have some sort of stability in the issue. Mass deportation is fascist and you know it, unless of course you go by fascism.
Was the Benes Decree fascist?
I feel sad for this family but, if someone comes here without a visa or overstays their visa they are here illegally! My family was sponsored to come to the US and spent 7 years in indentured servitude. I consider that the equivalent of the current H1-B visa program. They had skills and an employer to sponsor them. Once they fulfilled their obligation, they became taxpayers. During the 7 years from getting off the boat to getting their own land, they disappeared.
You can get a visa to come work here, which leads to you being able to stay here. I know people who have legal immigrants milking cows and doing other farm work. It is not cheap to sponsor someone for an H1-B visa.
People who sneak across the border are illegal. People who rape 13 year old girls are criminal. We have laws, let's all try to abide by them.
Or maybe these lovely multi-culti hard working immigrant rich stories will touch your heart and renew your faith in mankind.
Mary Nagle must be added to the list of Americans murdered by illegal aliens. Had her family been more discriminating about whom they hired, she might still be alive today, because the Guatemalan man who raped and killed Mary in her bedroom was painting the Nagle house in Rockland County, New York.
Not only did Douglas Herrera apparently kill Mary Nagle in her own home, he followed up his brutal crime by using her cell phone to call 51 of her friends and family, sometimes to brag on the killing and to threaten them as well. He was arrested a few hours after the murder.
Mary Nagle was a 42-year-old mother of two young children. She had a master's degree from Columbia University in finance and marketing and was employed by Volvo Leasing as the director of marketing at the time of her death.
The New York Times reports that local people are now reluctant to hire foreigners as a result of the murder. Oh, really...
Mr. Sandoval happened to know Mr. Herrera. He hired him to paint several rooms in his own house.
"He was quiet; he was a good worker," Mr. Sandoval said. "I left for lunch and when I got back he had finished the room."
Still, Mr. Sandoval said, if the charges against Mr. Herrera are true, he shudders at the memory.
"I have a 15-year-old daughter and he was in my house," he said. "It's terrible."
What is wrong with Americans who naively open their homes to foreign strangers — people about whom they know nothing. These aliens have no connection to this society, probably have fake identification and feel none of the social glue which prevents crime in settled communities. Most are here to take what they can get by any means necessary.
Like the Garner family in the posting below, Larry Vance lives near the border with a level of stress from constant trespassing and crime from illegal aliens that most of us cannot imagine. The Douglas, Arizona, resident has seen it all.
And this ease with which illegals can sneak in, has led to a booming crime wave that has terrorized local citizens along this stretch of border.
Border resident Larry Vance said, "We've been robbed, our dogs have been poisoned, our house broken into."
American Border Patrol founder Glenn Spencer added, "We've had murders, mayhem." [...]
Larry Vance lives within eyeshot of the border, and sometimes videotapes the illegals pouring in. He said, "Rape, robbery, beatings … it's a common occurrence right here."
They frequently target a little old lady living near Vance. "She's been robbed, the last I heard, 57 times," lamented Vance.
Financial loss is normal because of stock killed, fences cut and water tanks emptied. The amount of trash strewn around the desert landscape is disgusting. Ranchers routinely carry guns because of the violent drug smugglers who pass through. There is plenty of evidence of OTMs (Other Than Mexicans) among the daily thousands, including some from Arab-Muslim countries where jihad against America is a common goal.
Yet at this writing (4/13/05), the Senate is contemplating a huge amnesty bill with practically no measures against fraud. As we know from previous immigration "reform," just the mention of another amnesty encourages thousands more illegals to come.
The Garner family looks cheerful enough in this photo, but these residents of Naco, Arizona, are daily victims of illegal immigration. Their lives are literally terrorized by inhabiting a growing part of America where no citizen is safe because the illegal alien invasion has destroyed the normal protections of the legal system.
"Years ago, they would politely ask you for water outside. Now you come home and someone is in your house, eating your food, trashing your bedroom, stealing your stuff, and leaving garbage everywhere."
The Minuteman Project has brought an unprecedented amount of long overdue media attention to life on the Mexican border. As a result we can learn about the lifestyle of the Garner family, such as how mom Dawn has to carry a gun along with signing her three daughters up for an Israeli-army self-defense course.
Just a year ago, Lou Dobbs Tonight reported that in one town, getting kids to school safely requires volunteers to follow school buses:
Fifty miles northwest in Sierra Vista, near several alien smuggling trails, school children catch the bus under the watch of sheriff department's volunteers. They've been patrolling bus stops since a group of illegal aliens carjacked a mother and daughter on their way to school two months ago.
One family who visited the Minuteman Project had a particular reason to participate. Randy Green of St. George, Utah, was urged to attend by his 22-year-old daughter who had been raped as a child by an illegal alien in their home:
The issue of illegal immigrants is a personal one for the father and daughter. Eleven years ago, an illegal immigrant raped Green's daughter in her bedroom. She was then stalked by the rapist's friends. Eleven years later, she is still working to put the experience behind her.
An outrageous level of anarchy is now the norm in areas bordering Mexico. This country has NO homeland security as long as the borders are open, and the chaos currently inflicted on those citizens will only move north.
Or maybe we should continue to recruit these type of hard working undocumented migrants. I mean, these are the jobs Americans have refused to do.
Donald R. Young was a Denver police officer working a second job when he was shot three times in the back and killed by an illegal alien from Mexico, Raul Garcia-Gomez. Young was providing security at Solano Ocampo, a hall used for private functions, when he was ambushed at around 1 am on Sunday May 8; another policeman was also shot but not seriously.
Both men were off duty but in uniform. Detective Young was the married father of two. He was a a 12-year veteran, who had worked with the vice-narcotics and domestic violence units, and was assigned to the fugitive-bomb squad when he died.
Donald R. Young had received numerous awards during his 12 years on the Denver police force.
He was awarded the police department's medal of honor and a distinguished service cross. He also received 10 official commendations and two commendatory letters.
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Raul Garcia-Gomez, the accused killer of Detective Donnie Young, was an illegal alien who had been in police custody twice before but was allowed to remain in the United States instead of being deported.
9NEWS has also confirmed that Garcia-Gomez has been involved in at least three traffic infractions since last October. He was pulled over once for running a red light, once for speeding and was involved in an accident.
In two of those incidents he was citing for driving with out a drivers license and in the third he provided a Mexican license.
Update 5/11: The Dodge Neon Garcia-Gomez used to escape has been found in California, perhaps Los Angeles. The girlfriend said that he confessed to her.
Update 5/12: O'Reilly mentioned Denver's sanctuary policy during his 5/11 discussion of this case. And yes, the Denver Police Department Operations Manual makes it clear in Section 104.52 - Arrest/Detention of Foreign Nationals that police are to ignore illegal immigration status in performing their duties. (PDF file of manual)
Furthermore, this case is complicated by the fact that the Mayor of Denver owned the restaurant where the accused killer worked, and the restaurant had received notification that Garcia-Gomez' Social Security number was bogus, indicating he was a likely illegal alien. It's an ugly picture of corruption all the way around, with another unnecessary death so that a fat-cat politician business owner could make a few more bucks.
Contact Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper, phone 720-865-9000 or email: MileHighMayor@ci.denver.co.us to express polite outrage at his city's idiotic sanctuary policy.
Update 5/16: Now the accused's family has disappeared, presumably to Mexico where Garcia-Gomez is believed to be. Gone from Los Angeles are the killer's mother and four of her other children plus Ismael Goytia, cousin of the accused.
In other news, on Friday "Thousands Gather[ed] For Slain Police Officer's Funeral."
Update June: The accused was arrested on June 4 in Culican, Mexico. The article contained an interesting detail:
In 2002, the attorney general's office estimated that about one- fourth of Colorado's roughly 200 active murder warrants for fugitives involved Mexican nationals who returned to their homeland after the crimes.
Bruce, great piece. One thing, can we stop calling them 'illegals' and just call them immigrants?
No. It does a disservice to those who are legally immigrating.
adios illegals
the world is over populated and every country must take responsibility for their own issue.
with the end of growth the struggle to survive will bring this to the fore
"...stealing jobs from Americans just because they are willing to work for less?!?!" I thought ZeroHedge was full of economically-literate people! Job's aren't "stolen;" they go to the lowest bidder, and that means more capital for everything else and a fair exchange for whoever freely agreed to it. Of course, these people aren't as quite as "free" as citizens (even as "free" as they are!) so it's not quite a fair labor market. That is why restrictions of work are a violation of basic human rights! The right to exchange labor for marketable commodities (money - the most marketable commodity)! I am surprised why so many so-called "freedom-loving" Americans who oppose foreign wars and centralized planning are so willing to put restrictions on the most basic contract - labor (and the right to live somewhere and participate in free exchange with your fellow man). Go join a union, jerk!
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Suck my cock you fag lovin' asshole licker.
I wish your job would go to the lowest bidder. I hear there's a lot of unemployed Chinese looking for work. Many of which would love to immigrate to the US to take your job.
Speaking of which, why not go into your managers office Monday morning and tell him to fire your ass and hire that poor Equadoran family to take your place. I'm sure both of them would be more than willing to take your job and work for less than what you currently make.
On a different note.
So is this a bigger tragedy than getting raped?
It is hard to fathom how anyone could bury an axe in the head of an innocent nine-year-old boy, but that was the unimaginable fate of Jordin Paulder of Fulton County, Georgia, on June 5. The killer was "Honduran native" Santos Benigno Cabrera Borjas.
Three children were playing in the parking lot of the Chastain Apartments in Sandy Springs early Monday evening when a red car with a wobbly wheel drove through.
Jordin Paulder, a 9-year-old boy with chubby cheeks, called out to the car's passengers to tell them of the bad tire.
Jordin didn't mean to insult anybody, he just thought they should know, witnesses told police.
But the car stopped. A man got out and slammed an ax into Jordin's face. Emergency workers were afraid to remove the ax during the helicopter flight to Children's Healthcare of Atlanta at Scottish Rite hospital, where Jordin died. [Boy, 9, hacked to death, 6/7/06, Atlanta Journal-Constitution]
When the police approached the crime scene, Cabrera Borjas fled to a nearby apartment complex. After he broke an officer's arm by throwing a tire iron (or maybe a "rimmed tire" — accounts differ) and made threats with an iron pipe, the officer shot and killed him.
Since the accused killer is dead, there will be no trial to remind the public that illegal immigration is not a victimless crime — assuming Santos Cabrera Borjas was indeed an illegal entrant, which was apparently the case. The authorities may not pursue that detail, wishing to forget the whole sordid thing.
Ah yes the joys of unlimited immigration for hard working criminals.
"...stealing jobs from Americans just because they are willing to work for less?!?!" I thought ZeroHedge was full of economically-literate people! Job's aren't "stolen" they go to the lowest bidder, and that means more capital for everything else, and a fair exchange for whoever freely agreed to it. Of course, these people aren't as quite as "free" as citizens (even as "free" as they are!) so it's not quite a fair labor market. That is why restrictions of work are a violation of basic human rights! The right to exchange labor for marketable commodities (money - the most marketable commodity)! I am surprised why so many so-called "freedom-loving" Americans who oppose foreign wars and centralized planning are so willing to put restrictions on the most basic contract - labor (and the right to live somewhere and participate in free exchange with your fellow man). Go join a union, jerk!
I am somewhat shocked to hear the economic conditions in NY. You are a very generous person to send your illegal friends back to Ecuador. Funny, that's one of the countries I am thinking of escaping to.
Apparently, the economy in NY is quite different from the economy in TX. The sheeple here in TX continue to spend money, watch their football, buy their absurdly expensive tickets in globalist Jerry Jones stadium. Of course the sheeple in the city of Arlington so kindly paid for his new stadium. Turns out the locals can not afford attend the games. Don't believe the propaganda you hear about the stadium from the propaganda news and sports channels, its all lies! It's a billion+ dollar facility built for the global elite, with one standing room only section reserved for the slave class.
TX economy is still booming, after all, we have big Oil here, many many defense contractors and lot's of military.. You would never know the country is in a depression here in TX. If one were to watch the local TV propaganda news shows, one would think things are going great. The fake wars are going great for us Texans!
The local "square" where the illegals go and wait to be picked up for day labor are still booming. I drive by them frequently and there is no lack of work for these illegals. The main place for day labors to get work by the way, is furnished by the city of Denton, proudly offering our illegals a worry free place to find work!
Learn some spanish, support our wars and come on down to TX!
Of course, when the SHTF, you better have survival supplies, and lots of ammo!
Ah yes, lets send more young men and women off to die in Iraq and Afghanistan.
You know, dying in the Middle East is so much better than staying home, raising a family, going to church, having sex with the wife or girlfriend, or enjoying life in general without having to worry if some shithead in the bush is aiming a snipe rifle at your head or planning to set off an IED to smash your legs to smitherens.
Naw, comin' home with your arms or legs blown off or emotional problems cause you saw your buddies head get blown off by an IED is so much better.
So I guess we'll wait until the body count reaches 50,000, the country is bankrupt from paying for an endless war until we finally come to our senses.
I guess we have to send the new evil empire out in a blaze of fucking glory.
I'm all for it, now if we can just get all those fucking illegal aliens to pay taxes on their income. I know its rather difficult and all seeing how they have to send approximately 25 billion in remittances back to the home country, but fuck the gringos we're entitled to take advantage of the system, because damn it, we didn't cross the border, the border crossed us.
I am somewhat shocked to hear the economic conditions in NY. You are a very generous person to send your illegal friends back to Ecuador. Funny, that's one of the countries I am thinking of escaping to.
Apparently, the economy in NY is quite different from the economy in TX. The sheeple here in TX continue to spend money, watch their football, buy their absurdly expensive tickets in globalist Jerry Jones stadium. Of course the sheeple in the city of Arlington so kindly paid for his new stadium. Turns out the locals can not afford attend the games. Don't believe the propaganda you hear about the stadium from the propaganda news and sports channels, its all lies! It's a billion+ dollar facility built for the global elite, with one standing room only section reserved for the slave class.
TX economy is still booming, after all, we have big Oil here, many many defense contractors and lot's of military.. You would never know the country is in a depression here in TX. If one were to watch the local TV propaganda news shows, one would think things are going great. The fake wars are going great for us Texans!
The local "square" where the illegals go and wait to be picked up for day labor are still booming. I drive by them frequently and there is no lack of work for these illegals. The main place for day labors to get work by the way, is furnished by the city of Denton, proudly offering our illegals a worry free place to find work!
Learn some spanish, support our wars and come on down to TX!
Of course, when the SHTF, you better have survival supplies, and lots of ammo!
That is a very sad story. Sadder still is the fact that it was predictable; that the PTB make money off of this kind of human misery. And now it is not them and us. Americans are getting the same treatment; learning skills on their own dime, getting degrees, piling up resumes full of accomplishments while being fired by the millions with no health care and uncertain futures.
I still want to know: how many illegals did it take to build and maintain a $30,000,000 private home in Aspen? I want to know because I lived there happily in the '70s and can't imagine what kind of ass would build such a home.
These folks were willing to leave a daughter behind forever. What kind of people would do that? I'm not too impressed they were willing to leave their son. It seems that his only function was to secure citizenship in the US.
Nice one Bruce - you sound like a true gent in a world of emotional retards.
(What's wrong with soccer though? Somehow un-American? You'll be telling me you don't quite get cricket next).
" They were prepared to give up their son so that he would have a shot. I gave them money for three tickets. I could not take Danny. It damn near broke my heart to say no."
Keeping parents and children together is the right decision. The boy is a U.S. citizen and can always return later but he should be with his parents until he becomes an adult. This is a tough situation but I feel that you made the best choice for everyone involved.
Sorry DaddyW but not all parents are good parents. Sometimes kids are better off elsehwere. These wonderful parents left a daughter behind in Ecuador, now they want to leave their son in the USA. Sounds selfish to me.
To Anon 87154 if you think the po-9 are friendly to immigtrants in Westchester County you are sadly mistaken. Gone Hunting.
http://www.nostate.com/166/cops-on-the-hunt-bubaris-acquitted/
When illegals dump their kids, it garners sympathy. If you tried it, you'd be in jail.
America has always been a beacon of hope for immigrants around the world. This nation was built by immigrants and will only survive if they in conjunction with Americans put their ideas together and thrive. Let us not forget the Google’s and the EBay’s of American are all immigrants. We are a better nation, because we gave all people opportunities to work and to make a living! They are the possible brains of the future, the ones that may lead our technologies and change the way we live. As American's we need to rediscover who we really are as a nation. Our American blood bleeds hope, and optimism and we as a nation want to be better and work harder and earn our keep. However, as the author stated our American humanity as a nation has dissipated into party politics and hate. We need to have an American Renascence and rediscover who we are as a nation and what our goals are. We may be financially bankrupted but we have our brains, once we loose that we are not only financially liquidated but philosophically!
All the sadness in this story would have been prevented if the guy and his mother would have stayed in Ecuador.
If things are bad in Ecuador, the citizens of Ecuador should do something about it. In Ecuador.
Otherwise, they can go through the legal channels for immigration, which shouldn't be considered a "right."
Like most argument supporting illegal immigration, this story is all emotion and no logic.
Heart-warming story but I admit that this irks a bit
"But the fact is that America is culpable in this disaster."
OK, there are a bunch of people who made money exploiting illegals with low pay/benefits, and the illegals were willing because they needed jobs.
But the majority of the People disagreed with the elites and exploiters. We got to pay in many ways--
fewer opportunities for our kids, unable to compete with hardworking adults for low-end jobs
costs passed into the system as illegals had no health or (often) auto insurance
schools burdened with kids having substandard language skills
crime, from some illegals and from US citizens who had no prospects due to lack of jobs
And if you pointed out any of this stuff you'd be snubbed and considered a yahoo who wanted to ship Mexicans home in cattle cars.
I'm sympathetic but I'd feel a lot better seeing the guilty taking some of the pain. Because there are plenty of people who made a bunch of money. And there are plenty of elites in the media and government who were enablers for this disaster.
Bruce,
You deserve an ice cream paint job for your act of kindness.
I hate to break your bubble and be the evil lurker that disparages your story.
The American people are not culpable for this tragedy.
I neither hired this couple nor encouraged them to enter the United States illegally and remain in the US illegally by offering them work and housing at the taxpayers expense.
Many people have worked diligently to force the government to close the border and stop the endless flow of undocumented workers that are stealing jobs from Americans just because they are willing to work for less.
And while we may feel sympathy for this family and their plight, we must also consider the trail of destruction that illegal aliens have wrecked on legal law abiding citizens of the US.
The following website offers a minor glimpse into a few of the tragedies that have befallen law abiding citizens that have had the misfortune of crossing paths with a criminal illegal alien.
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/
To put it bluntly, this family was not the only family to suffer from the havoc wrecked upon the American landscape due to illegal immigration.
Consider the employees of the Hyatt Hotel in Boston that were forced to train their replacements and promptly fired because Hyatt was allowed to hire foreign replacements that were willing to work less than American citizens.
The American landscape is a vast boneyard of folks that lost loved ones to drunk driving or just plain criminal illegal aliens, along with jobs to the never ending quest to replace the American worker with outsourced manufacturing to China to take advantage of cheap foreign labor and Global Corporations desire for insourced foreign labor.
Is their story tragic, yes it is, but take the time to explore that website and you will see that many of our fellow citizens have experienced much worse than your friends.
Unless of course you think being murdered or raped by criminal illegal aliens is outweighed by the tragedy of your friends.
You seem to be blaming everything on illegal immigration. That is not the source of the United States' problems. There are much larger problems you are turning a bling eye to, in order to find an easy scape goat.
The problems of unemployment for American's stems from gigantic facist/socialist government that has been brewing for the better part of the last 100 years. Your government has taxed and regulated companies so much, that they've driven out the industry. It has very little to do with wages.
Look at Japan, Look at Germany, these are countries with the highest wages in the world, yet they tax and regulate less, meaning companies within their boarders can stay competitive. Now that all the industry and capital has been driven out of the country U.S. workers can no longer be paid high wages, because there is very little capital behind their labor.
But let's take a look at an illegal worker v.s. a legal worker. An illegal worker might be willing to mow your lawn for $10/hour. You would be willing to pay for that labor at that price. But if that same job cost you $20/hour from a legal worker, then you might just have to mow you lawn yourself or let it grow out.
My point is that many of the jobs that you say illegal workers are "stealing" are jobs that would not even get done if these illegal workers weren't here, because the market price for that labor would be too high. Just like the chinese are subsidizing America's high standard of living with cheap imported goods, so are illegal immigrants with cheap labor.
If illegal's weren't cooking your food in the back of that restaurant, mowing your law, or cleaning your office while you're at home, you'd have to pay double for that dinner, double for that nice lawn, double for a lot of the services you take for granted. You may be willing to do that, but those higher prices would price many American's out of the market meaning they'd have to make their own sandwiches, mow their own lawns, and do a bunch of things that now get done by those undocumented workers.
Thankfully Hyatt's getting their just due for:
* Lying to their employees about what those folks really were.
* Offering contracts through a staffing firm that still dump them while giving Hyatt cover (in time and by it not being Hyatt).
* Using the 600 remaining staff as political cover.
I only hope they turn the screws on Hyatt far enough to kill the practice of lying before offshoring (as well the use of illegals).
They're also doing some sick shit in old age homes in FL...total ponzi schemes and whole communities of them
Are you kidding? Where do you think your family came from..... Where do you think we all came from... That story is an American story, it's mine, it's yours, it's everyones.
And as to your claim that these folks "murder or rape" may I suggest we dig into your background and look at your family history for those murderin' and rapin' family member that you don't wish to talk about.... I bet we can find a few.
Answer me this -- would you have paid the "price" described in that well written piece to get to America? I doubt it. Would your wife? Would you be willing to leave your Son so that he could have what you seem to take for granted and are unwilling to share?
These folks paid a huge price to get here, they gave up everything - now those are the kind of Americans I want. They understand... clearly it seems you don't.
BTW, there is NO legal way into this country, oh, unless you want to spend 10 years trying. A "True" American doesn't sit around waiting - they go after what they want.
My family came from the United States.
I believe you should put your sympathies with the US families that were destroyed as a result of endless open border immigration.
The point of my rant was to point out that this family has not been the only family that has suffered catastrophically due to illegal immigration, but of course you are incapable of even imagining such an outcome.
My family came from the United States.
Unless you are a 100% Native American; NO THEY DIDNT !!!!1
BTW, American Indians are immigrants too, just a very long time ago.
But not illegal immigrants!!!!!
What a fucking doofus, not even the fucking Native American Indians came from America, they all came from Asia over the land bridge and along the coast from Siberia over into Alaska.
And supposedly everyone came from a bunch of monkeys in Africa. What a maroon!
But I guess the fact that they have lived here for almost 14 thousand years and my family has only been here since the founding of the United States of America means that they can claim they came from here but I can not.
You may have come from the land of cheeky assholes, but I was born in the United States of America, which means I come from the United State of America, soon to be renamed the North American Union.
I was born in this country as were my parents and grandparents and my great grandparents and so on.
deducing your logic; it only leads me to one obvious conclusion; the only BEING that has any right ( by your logical system ) to exist is the FIRST mono-cellular animal; all the others don't. Why don't you go back to Daily Kos, or Politco or some shit like that and paste the garbage you are spouting here on those sites; this site is mostly retard-free-zone.
And with statements like these " And supposedly everyone came from a bunch of monkeys in Africa. What a maroon! " you will fit better on some creationist/redneck/militia forum where your retarded opinion is regarded as valuable. You, dear Sir, are a fucking moron and i think most people here will agree with my statement. And, no, you do not come from the USA; you are a descendant of IMMIGRANTS. You may not like it, you may not think of this as true, you may continue to " argue " via Bible garbage and some quasi-patriotism subjective sense you think you have; but it is the truth; i can guarantee you have a gene pool more diversified than GS balance sheet is.
I'm making a wild hairy ass guess, but I suspect his immigrant ancestors arrived LEGALLY. I agree that we need to allow more immigrants into this country, and make it easier for skilled, educated people to enter this country. It makes no sense too allow students to come from abroad, educate them, give them a taste of what this ountry has to offer, and then send them back without any reasonable prospects of becoming US citizens. It's stupid, and shortsighted. Meanwhile, despite MANY Americans complaining abut this problem for years- law enforcement and politicians looking to not piss off this constituency, sell out all Americans who abide by the rule of law. In order for me to provide a better life for me and my family, maybe I should just stop paying my taxes, which amount to almost 50% of my total income. As soon as I am taxed OVER 50%, someone explain to me how that means that the government owns more of my productivity than I do? When it gets to that point, I may have to say Fuck You to Uncle Sam, and become a conscientious objector to this oppressive tax system that punishes producivity and achievement, while rewarding mediocrity and laziness.
Look, we need to get some things straight; im in the front row when it comes to opposing illegal immigration, and i do not like the idea of " Open Borders " and i have no sympathy for this family, simply because it was their FREE WILL to come to the USA ILLEGALLY; but to claim that you are a 100% American is simply wrong. The core of Anglo-Saxon culture is protestantism and its ethic; and that is 100% European. American Constitution is symmetrically equal to the ideas of French Enlightenment philosophers. Illegal immigration is a problem and a big one; also the legal immigrations likewise ( just look at what it had done to the various sectors of the US economy ) with its working visa regime. Furthermore; the policy of open borders guarantees you one thing; inflow of highly skilled, low paying workers who will, and that process is now long into its existence, replace highly skilled highly payed domestic workforce. So, i do not condone illegal immigration, matter a fact, i am strongly opposed to the idea; but to say that America ( or America like it was until the 60s ) is an American invention; now that is wrong. America is in its core multi-culturally molded society with a strong protestant ethic.
Wow cheeky are you frothing at the mouth or is that just cock cum dripping down your cheeks.
Man you really try hard to look down your nose at a lot of people. Somehow you believe that your intellectual mediocrity places you above all the retards that post on this website.
Somehow because your the Cheeky Bastard you are suddenly so much better than all of the rest of us. I've seen how you belittle those that don't agree with you, you climb up on some soap box like your opinion is the only opinion and the final opinion, or should we say case closed.
I'm amazed you didn't call me a troll and tell me to inhabit AllenJones or InfoWars websites. Its amazing how gullable you are and how easy it is to bait you into a flaming diatribe.
And, for your information I'm not a descendant of IMMIGRANTS, I descended from monkies that hung out in trees, and those monkies are descended from lemurs, and those lemurs are descended from the mammals that survived the meteor strike 65 million years ago.
And we're all descended from simple life forms that developed over 4.5 billions years ago on planet Earth.
And yes I am from the United States of America and if you and the rest of you EuroTrash muslim asshole licking bastards don't like it you can lick my balls until I come all over your face.
really; ok, i will let others be the judge of your posts; but somehow i feel that you will not be welcomed here; its just a hunch; but i think a valid one; oh and yes; you DO sound like a troll ...
Truly a foolhardy move...go up against Cheeky? Trolls aren't known for smarts. You are right, this is the spot I like to go to read and mostly listen. That one struck a jarring note. I hope they do not get it in their heads to frequent ZH. BTW, thanks to everyone that contributes here, I learn something new everyday.
The wisest come here to learn. We try to respect each others opinions... until we can't.
Cheeky's a bomb chucking anarchist... with a heart of gold and a nose full of blow.