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...And Large Silver Contract Follows Suit As Gold Goes Berserk, Hits New All Time High

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Fresh all time nominal high in spot gold: $1,427.01

And this is what an EEG of Blythe Masters' worst nightmare looks like:

 

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Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:33 | 783434 Drachma
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Beautiful sight really.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:36 | 783443 Dagny Taggart
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I was going to buy more... but it never dips!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:10 | 783596 gmrpeabody
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I quit waiting to add..., just hold your nose a hit the BUY!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:12 | 783610 h4rdware
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SLW is the candle which burns so very very brightly. It's already a 10-bagger here (or very nearly).

Looking forward to a few more among the very small silver producers :D

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:14 | 783347 Gloomy
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Bloomberg:

 

Payroll Tax Holiday Discussed in Talks on Bush Rates
Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:32 | 783431 SheepDog-One
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I bet Obama ripped out his stitches on hearing that.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:35 | 783439 MsCreant
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Why not, we can just print. What's a little moral hazard between fellow Americans? FTW! 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:45 | 784783 Dr. Sandi
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Payroll Tax Holiday Discussed in Talks on Bush Rates

We just have to keep flushing until the sewers back up with dollar bills.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:16 | 783356 SheepDog-One
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As The Jamie Dimon blows a heart valve!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:17 | 783361 BeeTee
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I'm with Unky.

I think Ireland will fail to pass the budget tomorrow and EURUSD will fall off a cliff.  But will this plunge PMs under a rush for USD, or will PMs surge under the collapse of fiat?

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:21 | 783384 Quintus
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No.  Been in touch with some contacts there and the deal is as good as done.  The final two votes required to pass the budget have been bought now, so barring unforseen circumstances it'll pass.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:28 | 783414 wretch
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"...so barring unforseen circumstances, it'll pass."  That's the funniest thing I've read today.  Do you want to try again?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:43 | 783461 Quintus
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Funny how, Dumbass?  You been smoking weed and found yourself laughing uncontrollably at the wallpaper again?

The number of voters required to pass the budget have already declared that they will do so.

Yes, hypothetically, if 2 or more 'Yes' voting members of the Irish parliament get run over by a bus, it may not pass quite so easily.

If the people of Ireland wake up tomorrow and decide that what they really feel like is a good old-fashioned Riot involving setting fire to the parliament building, it may not pass.

If some Irish parliamentarians are visited in the night by the Ghost of taxpayers future, and change their minds about voting for the budget, it may not pass.

Other than this sort of thing, the deal is done.  Do you, perchance, not understand how voting works?  As a reminder, if you need X votes, and X or >X voters confirm their support, then you're home and dry.

Want to try again?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:50 | 783514 cossack55
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As someone with a foot in the interior design market (no, not like Harry), I would like to know which wallpaper induces "the hooks" after imbibing a little in order to penetrate the California market.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:42 | 783711 Quintus
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Judging by some of the commentators on this thread, your target audience spends more time licking the wallpaper than looking at it.  I'd suggest therefore, that you focus on finding something with an interesting texture.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:14 | 783614 thebark
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but of course Quintus, who lives in his moms basement, is in a position to know exactly whats going on in Ireland. What a douche.......

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:26 | 783655 Quintus
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Listen, dickhead.  You don't need to live in Europe and do lots of business with Ireland like I do.  Even a troll like you can figure out what's going on in Ireland if you put 5 minutes effort into it - you can simply read the newspapers.  You'll be behind the curve of course, but at least it may stop you looking like a fucking idiot in public.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/1206/breaking18.html

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 21:34 | 784279 THE DORK OF CORK
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This paddy pilot reporting from mothership Hibernia via the nearest pub wants to ask the informed and esteemed members of the Zero Hedge community what the fuck is happening in dear old Ireland.

Answers on a postcard addressed to Dork of Cork of no fixed abode somewhere in the Peoples Republic of Cork.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:48 | 784786 Dr. Sandi
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The diluted Irish genes in my body are gettin' a bit crazy at how the big boys are steppin' on Mother Ireland.

But then again, the Irish know what to do to the dick that pisses on them!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:17 | 783624 gmrpeabody
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Whether they vote for it or not..., really, there will be little difference IMHO. Either way, a lot of money leaving the EURO will find a home in GOLD, as well as the USD. They can a do rise together at times, as today.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:30 | 783675 szjon
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Quintus is bang on, the deal ios done, apparently the clincher for the two independents was the reduction of politicians wages and pensions. Didn't say if they were for it or against it but call me a cynic......

 

There are even a few opposition willing to vote it through if needs must 'in the interest of the country'. They are afraid they will be the laughing stock of Europe, they don't understand that the PEOPLE of europe want us to default. They are only concerned about other politicians and bankers views.

 

Hopefully there will be a time of rejoicing sometime soon when we hang them from the bridges on the liffy. Fingers crossed.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:43 | 783734 Sean7k
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Hard to think their politicians are any different from ours. The bankers own them all. The only opposition is the pitchfork and torches brigade.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:33 | 784771 StychoKiller
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Copy that, good buddy!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:29 | 783421 Arius
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my take they are running low on physical...so, got to take it a bit higher to be able to survive another day ...

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:18 | 783369 High Plains Drifter
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According to Robert Prechter, gold is going back to 600. Well I never.....

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:44 | 783486 awgee
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He was saying 300 a couple of years ago.  Did he change his mind?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:15 | 783617 RockyRacoon
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Prechter is optimistic since his outlook has doubled!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:34 | 783695 Arius
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thats an improvement...some double down and at least he is cutting some of his losses...not bad

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:34 | 784772 StychoKiller
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600 what?  Firkins of beer?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:19 | 783374 What_Me_Worry
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You can eat silver!  

Unfortunately, you'll have to live the rest of your life as a smurf.  Unless you are in to that sort of thing.  Save on next years holloween costume.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:02 | 783801 Diogenes
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I have a friend who loves colloidal silver. He has been taking it for years. He took so much his skin started to turn grayish blue. If you get him in the right light he looks like a zombie.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 20:08 | 784008 Rotwang
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I have a friend, whose UTI had been with him for ages, who started up a small regimen, and where pharma end-of-the line antibiotics hadn't done diddly, cleared up within 2 weeks.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:20 | 783380 JonNadler
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I decided to switch sides, am pro-gold now, hey no sense hanging out with a bunch of losers like Blythe and Jamie, now that they're getting ready to trade their Hamptons mansion for Sing Sing. Gold to da mmooooooooooonnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:42 | 783475 PhattyBuoy
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If your tits were real they would be flopping out of their holster ...

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:12 | 783606 yabyum
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^^^^^^:)

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 22:31 | 784428 FatFingered
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Phatty!  You're funny!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:46 | 783492 awgee
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Great idea, I wonder if Dimon wants to trade his Hamptons cottage for my silver.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:20 | 783381 Ancona
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I wonder how much more invisible silver JPM will have to come up with to put a stop to the coming COMEX crunch?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:20 | 783382 littlebuddy
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ha ha ha ha ha haaaa!

BAAAAAAha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa...etc..

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:23 | 783393 Bastiat
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Time for Henry Paulson to run into Congress with a Post-It note and demand absolute power!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:28 | 783412 SheepDog-One
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Actually the same thing Im thinking...they can not allow this to happen. Ballistic PM's is worse than the Death Star explosion for The Bernank and The Jamie Dimon JP Morgue silver manipulation scam and its worth trillions in damages.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:31 | 783428 Bastiat
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Would have been one of the great moments in the US History if they'd clapped that arrogant prick in leg irons and shuffled him out of the chamber.  I can dream.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:24 | 783395 Id fight Gandhi
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So what kind of silver are yall holding?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:36 | 783447 FISD
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Mine is that shiny kind.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:45 | 783487 goldsaver
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Physical in my safe.

1oz Canadian Maples

pre-1964 Dollars, half dollars and dimes

10oz bars

and some ASEs and fancy rounds for gifts and conversation pieces.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:07 | 783582 trav7777
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plz provide GPS coordinates of your house and the location of your safe. 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:55 | 783530 cossack55
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Who's holding?  How about  buried in 4" PVC, not on my property, mainly 50/50 mix numismatic (hedge)/junk merc dimes, walking liberty halfs, Morgan/peace dollars and ASEs.  Some 10oz bars for fun and to purchase arable land.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 22:30 | 784425 trav7777
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you'd better send me the coordinates for safekeeping.

BTW, a few 10oz bars aren't going to get much arable land...lol

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:27 | 783662 mt paul
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fork lift 

and pallets

 type

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 21:12 | 784208 samsara
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Well, how will you be using it and in what quantity do you want to hold it? 

Bars/Bullion more for the dollar, More in less space.  but the recognition value is lower to certain people(on the street).

Coins  Silver eagles, Maple leafs....  Higher Recognition value. The average person would feel more comfortable with it's genuineness.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:37 | 784775 StychoKiller
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What?  Who, me?  I don't gots no barbaric relics!  They sank to the bottom of a lake in my fishing boat!  Excuse me, there's a knock at the door...

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:29 | 783416 MountainMan
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We've reached a point now that the collective forces have figured that the jig is up. All counter attacks by the JPM will be met with even harder counter resistance. The hunter has become the hunted.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:36 | 783444 I need more cowbell
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Besides the Buyer of Size(s), I think we are getting to the point where the other sharks smell blood, and turn on their own. Lehman anyone?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:28 | 783418 butthead
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Hi Ho Silver and away!! Yea.

Somebody short has knotted knicker nuts.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:30 | 783422 SheepDog-One
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You know theyve got to be seething at Max, Exomatrix, Downfall....Zerohedge smartasses...all of it has to have them furious as hell.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:30 | 783426 dojiman
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Buy on the F...ing dip...lol

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:31 | 783429 swissinv
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watch this shit carefully

New law lets Treasury diminish gold, silver coin production
Submitted by cpowell on Mon, 2010-12-06 20:25. Section: Daily Dispatches

3:23p ET Monday, December 6, 2010

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold (and Silver):

Mike Zielinski of the Gold and Silver Blog has uncovered another telling sign of the increasing desperation of the U.S. government's campaign to suppress gold and silver prices.

Zielinski reports that new legislation passed by the House and Senate -- H.R. 6162, the Coin Modernization, Oversight, and Continuity Act of 2010 -- which awaits action by President Obama, diminishes the obligation of the Treasury Department to make gold and silver coins available to the public.

Current law requires the department to mint gold and silver coins "in quantities sufficient to meet public demand."

The new law would require the department to mint gold and silver coins "in quantities and qualities that the secretary determines are sufficient to meet public demand."

Not that the Treasury Department lately has been observing the law, what with the U.S. Mint's frequent suspension of gold and silver products. But now apparently the government recognizes a likely difference between what actually will meet public demand and what the treasury secretary will determine meets public demand. This may reduce the government's own gold and silver purchases and thus reduce metal demand generally.

Zielinski's report is headlined "How Much Gold and Silver Will the Treasury Secretary Determine is Sufficient to Meet Public Demand?" and you can find it at the Gold and Silver Blog here:

http://goldandsilverblog.com/gold-and-silver-treasury-secretary-public-d...

CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:37 | 783451 frenchie
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merde alors !

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:38 | 783454 FISD
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Interesting post! Thanks for the heads up.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:59 | 783549 saulysw
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I don't like the inclusion of the "quality" word there, that's new. Seems like they might produce sub-999 products. Wasn't that one of the hallmarks of a failed empire, when they dillute the PMs in coins?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:16 | 783625 Cheesy Bastard
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Absolutely excellent point.  Less and less silver in the Roman denarius over time.  How about Eagles with a copper or nickel center?  Or go to .99 pure instead of .999.  Maybe it's time to look at maple leafs. 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:36 | 783703 Louise1
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9/22/2010--Introduced.

Coin Modernization, Oversight, and Continuity Act of 2010 - Requires the Secretary of the Treasury to report biennially to specified congressional committees on production costs for each circulating coin, cost trends, and possible new metallic materials or technologies for the production of circulating coins. Requires detailed recommendations in such reports for: (1) changes to the metallic content of circulating coins; (2) changes in coin production methodology that would further reduce the costs of production; and (3) legislative changes necessary to achieve such goals

 

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-6162&tab=summary

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:57 | 783789 A Nanny Moose
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Bingo! Also, the mint's supply is suppose to be sufficient to meet demand. Just because the mint stops buying, does not mean the end user demand falls. Demand will be met by some party, or prices will adjust. Should they continue to produce .999's perhaps .999 Eagles will command a higher premium if there are fewer, or if the newer version has lower pm content?

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:39 | 784776 StychoKiller
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Darn it, back to India then, to load up on "jewelry"!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:34 | 783437 kragsquest
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It will dip back below $30. I don't know how far, but it should be interesting.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:38 | 783455 thetruth
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it's impossible to trade it.  could be tonight or could be tomorrow or the day after.  seems the only sure strategy is to keep holding

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:39 | 783460 Cdad
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Correct.  The flash dash will insure the onset of "Blythe-Like" algorhythmic  selling as upside indicators having  been taken to
+100% . 

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:08 | 783588 thetruth
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dip tomorrow you think?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:06 | 783819 Sespian
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depends on impact of proposed bank run in Europe on the Euro dollar.  If Euro tanks, silver will drop back for sure.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:40 | 784779 StychoKiller
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Would bank run(s) move the Euro up, or down?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:34 | 783438 Ragnarok
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OT: Top in on the market? US Treasury to Publicly Offer 2.4 Billion Citi Shares

 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/40536712

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:37 | 783450 SheepDog-One
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$2.4 billion doesnt even make for a weekend in the Hamptons for these guys now.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:38 | 783458 ruffian
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where is robotrader when you need to piss on him?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:40 | 783464 SheepDog-One
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He saw that equities closed with the PM close and decided to go apply some Unguentine to his ass.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:41 | 783466 thetruth
Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:47 | 783498 metaforge
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what a douchebag MSM shill

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:19 | 783638 RockyRacoon
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John Carney is a toadie... always has been.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:42 | 783470 mtomato2
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.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:43 | 783481 shortus cynicus
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it's madness, no opportunity to buy more, EE is failing to meet my expectations

why can't they just prohibit rising prices just to let us accumulate more :-(

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:48 | 783501 Vagabond
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It's just about time to accept that $30 is the new low.  I'm pretty happy (so far) I decided to buy at 28.5 late last week instead of waiting for another dip, thinking this week was going to see resistance levels move up.  Tomorrow will be interesting.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:36 | 783701 Clapham Junction
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Yup, 5000 was the new low on the NASDAQ.

Human nature never changes.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:50 | 783495 tahoebumsmith
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Thanx Max and Tyler for a job well done. Pretty sad the blogoshere has to take these matters into its own hands to get real results. Slowly but surely the grip is loosening and the open empty hand will be revealed.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 17:55 | 783534 PicassoInActions
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Quick question,

It's my first purchase of the silver and may be some1 can explain,

does it matter what silver buluion should i get or they all the same?

i got Silver - Bullion .999 pure - Heraeus Bar (10.000 oz.) 316.75 from builliondirect


Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:11 | 783603 Sabremesh
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Doesn't matter what physical form your silver takes. Heraeus bars are easily recognised, so that is an advantage.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:22 | 783648 Clapham Junction
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I'd buy government coins.  In 2004, that is.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:14 | 783615 Clapham Junction
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Advice:

Buy platinum.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 01:52 | 784739 Acidtest Dummy
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Good call, CJ. :)

Unfortunatly, I'd estimate Pt Au parity @ 17 or 18 hundred FRNs (at which point Pt will be oddly unavailable).

My last bad call was that Au would linger around $1000 while India exhausted its scrap. That was only days before India paid $1080 for 200 tons of IMF Au.

 

CHUMBAWUMBA bitchez!

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:28 | 783668 Sean7k
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Any silver you buy should be marked .999 silver. If not, there should be a discount. Heraeus bars are investment quality and you should try to get ones with serial numbers if possible. These can be placed in an IRA, but I personally recommend having possession- custodians can be iffy if the SHTF. 

Remember, 1 oz= 31.14 grams and 12 oz =1 pound. It uses a troy weight system. 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:10 | 783574 Temporalist
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It's all over!  CNBS is spending more than 5 minutes on silver...with gold sprinkled in.  They even brought up copper, big banks and short squeezes.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:20 | 783644 Clapham Junction
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No, it may run quickly to $50. Small buyers of coins are simply going to end up with a coin collection, which really isn't such a bad thing.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:37 | 783914 SilverRhino
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I think the top of my truck will be covered in pigshit soon. 

CNBC actually covered precious metals??  WTF?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:07 | 783585 jomama
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there's nothing quite like watching the beast die in slow motion.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:07 | 783587 Cone of Uncertainty
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Meanwhile, fuckwad CNBC shills are right on cue with the latest anti-silver propaganda:


Silver: Should You Help Inflate The Next Big Bubble?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/40534220

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:16 | 783622 Clapham Junction
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What do you think it means when the assholes on CNBC are predicting a bubble in silver?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:27 | 783895 JLee2027
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About to run higher

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 20:31 | 784084 Citxmech
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Oh God!  I saw that and I was laughing my ass off the whole time I was reading it.

What a complete crock of shit.  I bet the asshole who wrote that piece doesn't even believe a word of it.

I haven't seen such loaded prejoritive "journalism" in a long time.

I'm gonna have to buy a few more oz's just to stick it to 'em that much harder...

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 04:00 | 784383 akak
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I haven't seen such loaded prejoritive "journalism" in a long time.

Evidently, you do not read the daily anti-gold screeds written by the diehard establishment defender Jon Nadler on Kitco.com.  A more vile, disingenuous, dissembling bastard patently in the pocket of the powers-that-be would be hard to find.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:10 | 783598 Misean
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Don't be to proud of this the technical resistance broken here.  Karma may be out to punish the hubris of TPTB, but it has time to swat at any growing in its path..

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 03:38 | 784817 Jasper M
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+1  Well and thoughtfully said.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:10 | 783600 Cdad
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We agree that CNBC is for shill Fwads...however, the selling to come in silver will come as a result of that flash move at the end of the day.

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:13 | 783612 Cdad
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OT:

Check that Citi print...3.9 million shares at...wait for it....$42.43 per share!

Sweet.

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:14 | 783613 sabra1
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all this could have something to do with the bank run tomorrow!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:21 | 783647 velobabe
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YEAH<  > might be time to cum†

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:23 | 783652 thebark
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we are here, now...on the verge of watching history being made...by the time its done, all the BS is exposed and the powers to be fall its going to be gold 5K and silver $300 ! Thats priced of course in the new coming IMF gold/commodity backed currency!!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:26 | 783658 spinone
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Huge profit taking tomorrow IMHO.

 

Don't trade my precious for the noise.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:34 | 783660 tickhound
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No shit... Apmex just sent me a nice x-mas gift!! ... includes card, and a holiday gift container full of 3 kinds of popcorn, and a super secret promo code for $5 off of some bullion... bitchez.  No eagles inside, but its the thought that counts.

Just in time for the fireworks.

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:59 | 783794 still kicking
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same here and a fuckload more than either bank I use did for me, and they took more of my money this year than Apmex did.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:34 | 783908 tickhound
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Yeah right, the bank? ...a lollipop maybe... But it never comes UPS and I have to go there to get it.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:27 | 783666 Fredd00
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Same margin call different day

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:28 | 783667 mt paul
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long 

3 legged goats... 

silver too

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:40 | 783723 omer10
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I dont understand why some bearish
commentators look at gold and equity
moves differently, as if they see
something very insightful: i.e. When gold moves higher, I told you
so, things are going bad
When Stocks go higher , things are very
bad, but markets are manipulated,
powers that be dont let the SPY fall
below, 1000, 1050, 1130, 1175 etc:
Why cant you look at this way it is the
same thing ! They are both denominated
in USD, USD is being devalued, that is
all that is going on. The same laws of
supply and demand of money, for USD,
EUR makes the price of both stocks and PM move, in general, apart from short
squezes, real commodity demand,
volatility.
I cant post here but Look at your charts: When QE1 was
announced at March 2009, SPX was
around 800, now it its around 1200, 50%
gain. At same time Gold was around 900s now
its around 1400s, about 50% gain.
Silver you ask: That is the Emerging
Market of PMs, It was 13 now 29.
Bovespa, Sensex, Russia,Indonesia
almost have the same % change, most gained a lot from lical currency appreciation from march 09. Look at
it yourselves.. I find it hillarious, when people here
congragulate themselves to be out of the
equity market, and buy these assets, just
by looking at short time periods when
SPX fell from 1130 to 1050, but dont
look at the big picture. Maybe its because many bought Us stocks in mid 2000s when sp was higher than now, but many emerging markets tripled , quidripled, paid dividends too. And many don't consider how much they enrich the coin
dealers with the high amounts of
commission they pay, and will pay. Of
course I have nothing to say for the
collecting angle of this..

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:17 | 783860 Sean7k
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Except silver and gold have no counterparty risk. Equities? Not so much.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 03:40 | 784820 Jasper M
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PHYSICAL gold and silver have no counterparty risk. But that's not most f the trade now, is it? Especially with artificially cheap credit.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 20:54 | 784149 blunderdog
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Looks like you don't understand how to format comments here, either.

It's sadly telling that you have to pick up the chart history in March '09.  Is that when you were born?

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:41 | 783725 UP4Liberty
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The "naysayers" have been saying this is "a bubble" since gold was below $100...and they have been WRONG every step of the way.  They said it was a bubble in 2006 when it was in the 600's...

 

GUESS WHAT...

 

They are really WRONG this time...

 

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:43 | 783732 mt paul
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yawn 

nap time 

wake me when asia opens 

or when silver crosses 32.50 $

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 18:46 | 783742 mt paul
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3 legged goat 

ate my apmex popcorn...

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:31 | 783901 godgunsandgold
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The whole can already? It says "No peeking"!

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:19 | 783868 greenewave
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Watch the video and exlcusive interview of Infamous Washington Crook Ben Bernanke "Rare CBS Interview!! Ben Bernanke 100% Certain of Economic Recovery – Just like in 2007” at (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtl_jHhNXWo).

by Anonymous

And that is a? spot on answer. Bendover and grab your ankles America.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:24 | 783886 Sean7k
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There is just one question to ask: are they debasing the currency? This is all you have to know. As long as the monetarists are in charge, you must protect yourself from anything dependent on fiat retaining value. The dollar, euro, yen and renimbi are toast. It is that simple. Equities and bonds are toast because you have to cash out in currency. Gold is becoming currency and silver will as well. 

The FED has brought this on themselves. People will pay bank/tax debts in currency and save wealth in real assets. The standard of living will change, but not necessarily fall.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:42 | 783931 omer10
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If they can manage to make a 20-30 pa inflation for a few years, every problem -regarding debt- will be solved. Think about it, your that kind of inflation will reduce real debt by half in 2 years, trigger wage inflation, asset inflation in prices of stocks, commodities including PM is already here-and also consider who is the biggest producer, even exporter in major soft commodities, cereals? USA.- That rate of inflation will even psh house prices up.

But more importantly it will inflate away the debt, the root of US' current problems, on a household level, state level, federal level.

And who is US most indebted too? Ultimately Asian banks, China most of all, petrostates with huge USD reserves and holders of US bills. Their receivales will be inflated away. They know this, and they know they will have ti eat this. They are crying foul, some of them, but they dont have choice. This is not new, it happened in 1974, until when 1USD, was 4 German Marks (about 2 Euros), against Germany, in 1985 with Plaza accord against mostly Japan.

It had to be done against China during 2000s, but China didnt accept this, and it is not an ally of US, like Japan, germany, that US could force it. Now it is gonna be done.

There wont be much inflation in US IMO, not in managed CPI numbers, and interest rates will be kept low with that, that is how the debt will be eaten. Only when inflation becomes high enough, Bernanke co. will be discredited, removed. Someone like Volker will be put in place, probably in a Republican admin. Interest rates will be increased, and ANY increase from 0 will crash the then much highly elevated PM and equity prices.

In all this, savers in USD, and wage earners, those who dont have debt and cant borrow will be screwed. So yes investing in PM is the right thing now. But I believe it should not be religion. Some people who bought gold in 1980s at around 1000 then much higher valued dollars thought they did the best thing, some had bought it for years, in maybe 20% of that price, and were congragulating themselves all along, I am sure. Remember that..

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 20:20 | 784051 Sean7k
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What you're talking about is hyper-inflation. This is a systemic loss of faith in a currency. By definition, they are short term actions. You can have the type of inflation we are experiencing now, with the attempt to disguise it by debasing all currencies, but it doesn't work. People figure it out and move into assets that protect them. 

In the late seventies, there was a crisis in currency and it sent gold and silver to new heights. Volker was able to curb this and create confidence in the dollar by raising the interest rate dramatically so that money moved back into dollars. The Bernanke does not have that option as one, the rates would make the debt payments to high and two, the US was a net exporter and not a debtor nation.

The debt is worldwide, as all banks have compromised themselves with derivative exposure and are incapable of writing it down to real value. There is no place to dump the debt. Therefore, the only option is systemic default. With a systemic default, the only option will be gold and and other pm's for the reserve of a new currency. 

The bankers will pay this out as long as possible, which will be a long time. Still, the price of gold and silver will continue to reflect the continued debasement of the currency.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 23:53 | 784577 JLee2027
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I agreed with everything you said but the time frame is unknown. All we need is a trigger event....an Irish default something like that.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 20:46 | 784124 samsara
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Some people who bought gold in 1980s...

True enough.  BUT,  BUT this is NOT 1980. And The 80's and 90's are NOT what is ahead of us. 

What ahead of us is truely uncharted waters my friend. You may think it is just a normal storm, others have the feeling that it is a maelstrom.

We feel that this is NOT a period where charts and "Previous Cycles" will guide thru the next 10-20 years.

THIS period is the shifting of an entire ERA.

You either feel that in your bones or you don't.

So, You make your bets on history, Others will make their bets according to their intuitions and heart.

Fare thee well to you in that endeavor.

 

 

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:17 | 784765 honestann
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Just remember these two facts:

#1:  Every single fiat currency in the history of mankind has become worthless.

#2:  This is the first time in history where every currency on earth is fiat.

If you can't figure out where that is headed... you are gonna become a very unhappy camper.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 19:45 | 783933 Goldenballs
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You cant,really debase a currency thats already base apart from plate steal (sorry should have read Steel,but maybe Steal is more appropriate)  or issue plastic or aluminium coins or even cardboard,maybe thats next as fiat won,t be able to purchase non ferrous metals.Novel eh,the cardboard $.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 20:16 | 784038 max2205
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If gold matched silver the last two months it'd be around $1,800

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 20:34 | 784096 Money 4 Nothing
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Woot!  Buy Silver.. Sink JPM.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 03:44 | 784822 Jasper M
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That's what we call a non-confirmation. But that's not very PC to say here, just now.

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 20:31 | 784082 HellFish
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Just added 2 Gold Eagles, 50 Silver Maple Leafs

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 20:43 | 784121 swanpoint
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My APMEX giant tin of popcorn arrived today --- evidently buy a few dozen pounds of silver gets you free popcorn :)

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:14 | 784763 honestann
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Yup, because us precious metal owners are gonna sit back and enjoy the show (the collapse of fiat world).

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 21:58 | 784350 Buck Johnson
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It's getting harder and harder to suppress gold and silver.  People are figuring out that it has a store of wealth and are buying and/or getting their stored assets out of the ETF hands. 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 22:16 | 784391 anarkst
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So, let's see here.  I should trade my worthless paper currency for metals that are supposed to represent labor-value, so that I can one day trade my metals for paper currency once again.  I do all of this so I can live in this society of people who pretend that all of this makes sense.  

 

Hmmmmm....no thank you.  You can keep your paper money and your metals and your absurd lives.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 03:59 | 784406 akak
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So, let yourself die then, if that is your choice.

Those of us who chose to live will do otherwise, and those who wish to preserve their hard-earned savings, and not freely hand them over to the government and the oligarchy via currency debasement, will continue to hold precious metals and other REAL assets.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 00:49 | 784680 chopper read
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thats it.  put your head in the sand, pious asshole.

you just could not wait to jump in here and sacrifice everyone, could you?

around here we call that "sour grapes".  

oh, well, as long as you FEEL better.  

anyway, you'll get yours, fuckwit.  

good luck out there. you're going to need it. 

 

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 22:29 | 784415 Coldfire
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I tried to stab the beast by buying silver, but Hong Kong banks, where you can usually buy physical silver over the counter, are quoting prices but are out of stock. Picture cobwebs and dust. That's OK, the powder is dry for the next delivery date. It's not like the problem is going away...

Mon, 12/06/2010 - 22:36 | 784439 FatFingered
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Here is a good article by James Turk that I found on Harvey Organ's Blog about Gold and Silver in backwardation.

http://www.fgmr.com/scramble-for-physical-metal-intensifies.html

"December 4, 2010 – The scramble for physical gold and silver is intensifying.  People increasingly want to own the real thing, and not some paper substitute, all of which come with counterparty risk.  This conclusion is apparent from the following two charts of gold and silver forwards, which are based on data made available by the London Bullion Market Association through November 24th (the most recent data available)."

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 01:02 | 784698 hudson
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I'm still learning but I bought my 1st 10 oz. bar of silver at $11. 00 per oz. I bought $100.00 of silver almost every month since that time.

I haveI food, water, fuel, guns and ammo so I don't have to eat silver.  I'd like to see the price drop just so I can get some more but if it is a rocket I'll go along for the ride.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 04:42 | 784759 honestann
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That is very interesting, is it not?

Everyone I know who owns gold and silver wants the price to come down, including me.  Can anyone name investors in any other asset with that attitude?

I guess that because we know where it's going.  Outer space!

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 01:09 | 784710 hudson
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For all you folks that didn't stockpile food I've got great deal on bread payable insilver/gold. I'm happy to barter. LOL

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 02:07 | 784753 honestann
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Sorry, all your bread is stale, and your food is past its expiration date.  I'll take my gold and silver to farmers markets and get fresh food.  Thanks anyway.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 01:10 | 784712 hudson
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You may not be able to eat silver or gold but sure can trade or barter it.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 03:51 | 784828 Jasper M
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I sold my gold this evening, and a bit of silver. Made a bit less than 100% profit on the gold, and about 380% on the silver.

I find it telling that the jeweler did not even bother to inspect the coins (dimes); old ones can be so worn that weight is reduced. He didn't care, too much of a hurry to get the stuff.

Tue, 12/07/2010 - 18:28 | 787209 kragsquest
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Sold to a jeweler?  I hope you got top dollar, usually a good coin dealer will pay more.  I spoke with a local coin dealer who is paying $19.25 times face--$100 silver is worth $1925. Check out APMEX's site or Gainesville.  They pay even more.  Can you trust them, most people are nervous about shipping PMs. I have never had a trouble with the big coin dealers. They can't afford to not honor their word.

The metals are going higher in due time.

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