And A Little Fuel To The Fire: Greece Downgraded By Fitch

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Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:34 | 1295314 boricuadigm-shift
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BTFD!  Why can't they wait until next week?  Poor Greece/EUR getting hammered!

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:16 | 1295505 camaro68ss
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O wow, dident see that one come. who whould have known this was going to happen

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:45 | 1295612 akak
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"I'm shocked, shocked to find Greek bonds and CDOs in this establishment."

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 18:37 | 1296919 smlbizman
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linda schivo wants them to pull the fuckin plug already....

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 12:25 | 1295805 trav7777
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Greece's bonds should be "F" rated.  There is 0% chance they will be repaid full value.  WTF is this ongoing charade that we call bond ratings?

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:37 | 1295317 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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The Bernank has sent out the order: "Bring down Europe, we need $dollar strength and an excuse for more QE".

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:42 | 1295327 LRC Fan
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I'll believe it when I see it.  Someone is fighting hard to keep the Dow down less than 100.  And they are winning so far.  And probably will win and push it green before day's end.  Just like that bullshit "negative watch" from S&P where the Dow went -240 before ending the week up like 600 pts.  Fuck that. 

And the DXY has met fierce selling any time it makes a new intraday high.  It keeps going up .10, then gets whacked down .07 in a nanosecond. 

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:41 | 1295328 HamyWanger
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Greece will never default. I can bet whatever you want on that. Greece is fine. 

If Greece defaults, there's a systemic domino effect. 

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:40 | 1295338 boricuadigm-shift
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Bingo!  No one is above the market indefinitely!  Less probable, but still possible!


Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:41 | 1295341 Id fight Gandhi
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Norway stepping away. IMF in disarray, Spain is protesting. It's time to close down the ponzi scheme. They never last. Sooner is better than later.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 12:45 | 1295884 redpill
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That's why Europe is lucky it is facing the music now.  When the US finally pops it will be ugly.


Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:41 | 1295348 topcallingtroll
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a coerced "voluntary" restructuring is still a default.  Real traders and financiers don't get fooled by bullshit.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:52 | 1295392 SheepDog-One
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What goes up, must come down such thing as a perpetual motion machine.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 12:20 | 1295782 Ying-Yang
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Including Hamy's wanger

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 09:02 | 1299844 anvILL
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Why don't you go write some put options for NGB?
I would certainly be a happy buyer if you could add some liquidity there.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:44 | 1295343 WhOracle
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it's been the bernank plan since the beginning , S&P and Moody's are part of the US weaponry to blow europe and divert attention off of them.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:56 | 1295407 centerline
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Not sure about that.  The IMF folks are the same anyhow.  Central banks here and there are really just cousins.  My thought is it is a just a ping-pong thing.  Orchestrated moves back and forth to keep things from overheating too quickly.  A collective action to bring "other" economies to thier knees.  Economic warfare my friend.  WWWIII is already under way - in the digital realm.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:07 | 1295459 WhOracle
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When the IMF gets handed over to Lagarde the US will be in control.

As posted in another thread DSK's case is part of the ongoing turmoil, Tim Geithner sees in her a great leader and commented about iher in the Time magazine in 2009 (,28804,1894410_1893847_1894202,00.html). she's backed by Sarkozy, which is a disciple of the governing authority in the US, inquire a little bit about Nicolas Sarkozy's stepbrother Pierre-Olivier Sarkozy, managing director of Carlyle Group... everything is tied.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:35 | 1295575 centerline
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Thanks for the info.  Haven't read those.  Not surprised though.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:59 | 1295411 SheepDog-One
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Russia says US goes down first, then Europe.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:04 | 1295428 WhOracle
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I agree on Russia but i think the US is battling for Europe to go down before them

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:20 | 1295509 overmedicatedun...
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and we all go down together "good night Saigon" the new currency boogie


Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:38 | 1295318 LRC Fan
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It's a false alarm, BTFD on the Dow and profit bitchez.

Someone is seriously buying very very aggressively on every downtick on the Dow.  There is heavy selling and then boom, it shoots back up in a flash.  Seems like the market "wants" to crash but someone has called the PPT back into action.  Hmmm, Ben?  Is that you? 

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:55 | 1295403 SheepDog-One
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Well the DOW is down -110...certainly cant have THAT in this free infettered fair market now can we?

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:09 | 1295470 LRC Fan
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You spoke way too soon...since your comment we rocketed up about 40 pts in minutes. 

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:45 | 1295600 Bay of Pigs
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Speaking of rockets, watch the Euro in gold terms as we move along. Near new all time highs right now, and looks ready to breakout. 20-30% higher wouldn't be a stretch for a new upleg.


Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:35 | 1295320 downwiththebanks
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Dissolve Fitch.

Arrest the board for defrauding the public.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:48 | 1295362 WhOracle
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same with moody

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:48 | 1295365 Ethics Gradient
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What, for not downgrading them sooner?

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:42 | 1295350 Id fight Gandhi
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Followed by the rest of the countries on fire as protests spread.

Default. Set the debt to zero and give everyone a clean slate.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:00 | 1295412 SheepDog-One
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Project Mayhem.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:43 | 1295339 LRC Fan
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Plus don't forget this is opex day. 

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:41 | 1295346 silvertrain
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Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:55 | 1295389 topcallingtroll
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Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:56 | 1295408 mynhair
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Flash crash this pig.  Tired of waiting.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:13 | 1295480 LRC Fan
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Doubtful.  We can't even stay at Dow -100 or more for a half hour.  This baby will close green today, count on it!  Then some "big mergers and acquisitions" (Borders, maybe?) will cause AMZN and the QQQs and then by extension the Dow and S&P to gap up on Monday morning. 

Full disclosure I am short so hoping for a flash crash so I can quickly cover and buy more gold/silver. 

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:16 | 1295493 scratch_and_sniff
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That was hardcore timing from fitch(even if its an afterthought), i wonder what got into them.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:23 | 1295522 LRC Fan
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Wow, gold really went vertical there

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:30 | 1295540 overmedicatedun...
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PM's reversed, did somebody actually decide facts matter?

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 14:38 | 1296334 Rynak
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Well, in tyler's words: Commodities ON.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:41 | 1295604 sabra1
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Economists, analysts and anecdotal reports from companies that supply local governments suggest there is widespread, unrecorded debt among once-free-spending local governments. Some companies are complaining that fiscally frail administrations are pressuring them to do business off the books and not immediately bill for goods and services, said Fernando Eguidazu, vice president of the Circulo de Empresarios business lobby group in Madrid.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 12:00 | 1295704 WhOracle
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Spain is most likely gonna blow this week end...


Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:42 | 1295609 SoCalBusted
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But it is a Solid B+

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 12:10 | 1295734 PulauHantu29
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The PM there said he refuses top let any bank creditors take a haircut....all austerity must be carried on the backs of Greek taxpayers. does that work out?

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 12:25 | 1295811 AldoHux_IV
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New money is required in order to address the fiscal funding shortfall that would otherwise emerge in 2012, a key weaknesses of the current EU-IMF programme highlighted by Fitch following its previous rating action on Greece at the turn of the year. Fitch expects the uncertainty regarding the volume and terms of new money, as well as the role of private creditors, to be resolved with the completion of the current fourth review of Greece's EU-IMF programme expected in the latter half of June.

Sounds to me that Fitch thinks the ponzi may have a chance of unraveling-- new money is needed to keep the sham going.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 12:34 | 1295836 vocational tainee
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Greece economy isn`t worse than the british .

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 15:02 | 1296410 Gimp
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Another rating agency joke B+?  Should be a solid "F"

Fool me once.....

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