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Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:27 | 1255868 redpill
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If even Moody's is downgrading then the party really is over.  Or more accurately, already ended.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:31 | 1255894 Chris Jusset
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Actually, Moody's typically waits until a country has totally collapsed before it issues a downgrade.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 13:00 | 1255981 SheepDog-One
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Well same case with S&P, who never dowgraded Enron from AAA until the day it was under $1 and declared bankrupt. 

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:32 | 1255898 nope-1004
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This is all stage setting for QE3.  First take down metals from the "speculators", then reign in oil, increase margin requirements, then get the various firms to downgrade EU, on and on.

This play has very bad actors and an even less credible writer.


Mon, 05/09/2011 - 13:02 | 1256000 firefighter302
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I agree about QE3 coming and the EU downgrades.  But I'm not so sure about oil being "reigned in".


Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:38 | 1255910 sheeple
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anyone that works for moody's should have their head exam; full of sheeps and liars

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:28 | 1255871 firstdivision
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So that explains the goosing of the markets.  Gotta get them up prior to Moody's release.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:26 | 1255876 Dick Darlington
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Seriously, is someone STILL paying for their services?

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 14:42 | 1256356 Zero Debt
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Moody's revenue 2010 was $2 billion.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:33 | 1255877 buzzsaw99
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Moody's is a pack of criminals imo.

extortion, blackmail, conspiracy to defraud. Moody's is the total package bitchez.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:35 | 1255909 redpill
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Maybe they should move their headquarters to Nye County, Nevada, where being a whore isn't against the law.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 13:58 | 1256180 buzzsaw99
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Al Capone was a piker.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:27 | 1255878 Dr. Engali
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The euro is toast....the dollar is toast....the euro is long before the sory moves back to the dollar being toast? It's a bullish though. Just BTFD!

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:32 | 1255889 LawsofPhysics
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Bah ha ha.  Stay ahead of the hot potato!

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:33 | 1255891 MacedonianGlory
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Papandreou will face jail

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 13:16 | 1256026 edotabin
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No. He will ask the prosecutor to examine why someone posted a single bad word about Greece's debt rating.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:35 | 1255899 Jack Mehoff
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Aren't they supposed to rate before the shit hits the fan?

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 14:38 | 1256341 Zero Debt
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No, they have to wait until the shit stops hitting the fan and the fan stops spinning, so the cumulative quantity and distribution can be assessed objectively. Thereafter the new rating will be issued.

Just like in olympic diving, you rate after the jump is completed. Anything else would be presumptuous.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:33 | 1255901 Ruffcut
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When My bank account has all zeros, I shall further review and evaluate whether I am broke, or not. Maybe just a downgrade is all that is necessary.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:42 | 1255921 kushmere
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Moody's Investor Service Report

May 9th, 2011


We are happy to report that Ruffcut has received an Aaa rating due to strong demand. His market position is somewhat leveraged, and cash on hand is low. The strengths of Ruffcut are his management, strong political connections, and innovative accounting department. Primary product sales are down, but we believe fresh capital will only result in high earnings in the long-term. 

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:34 | 1255905 Josephine29
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Whilst we see all sorts of talk and hyperbole so much is hidden and not understood. I wonder how many are aware of what is something of a scandal and is explained below.Sooner or later Europe's taxpayers will wake up to this.

As to debt restructuring the Euro zone has by a combination of incompetence and dithering got itself into a position where a lot of the restructuring would take place on the books of the European Central Bank! They are fortunate that the vast majority of their taxpayers and voters do not understand what has taken place here. In fact it is worse than that as the accountancy used is that of the madhouse which declares the interest-rate profits but assumes that capital losses cannot happen! Yes a position which can only have large losses as we stand is declaring a profit…

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:56 | 1255976 stormsailor
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Captain Obvious, We Salute You

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 13:05 | 1256008 Piranhanoia
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Fertilizer is of far more value than the ratings agencies. Shit doesn't lie.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 13:21 | 1256038 bugs_
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we've got your multi-notch downgrade right here

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 13:41 | 1256106 Clowns on Acid
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So if the markets won't buy Greek souvlakai debt (instead of int pymts why not accept some olive oil or a Greek island instead?), and let's say that the holders of Greek debt get a 50% haircut, then stock market must go up (except European banks) as surely ECB will provide "liquidity".

Ok, but what happens to US bond market? IMHO must be sold.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 14:03 | 1256198 riley martini
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 Moodys' is a criminal organization nothing has changed  in Greece the only change is the people that are paying Moodys' for their rating have placed bets to profit from the rating . The same way Goldman and Moody teamed up to defraud Widows and Orphans : Pensions , charities and schools.

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 14:06 | 1256199 slewie the pi-rat
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"(3) concerns about the probability and the implications of a delayed and weaker economic recovery."

buffett started reading zH after what Rush published!

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