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And Now It Gets Religious: Al Jazeera Reports That Clashes Break Out In Cairo Between Christians And Muslims

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So far religion was luckily very much removed from the MENA revolutions. If this Al Jazeera update is to be believed, that is no longer the case. And as everyone knows, the biggest threat in the Muslim crescent is religious warfare, which would immediately bring up questions of how long before Israel is involved. More as we see it.


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Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:47 | 1030118 ryanseventyfive
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Holy crap

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:58 | 1030138 AN0NYM0US
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The Christians in Egypt saw the writing on the wall some weeks ago, ironically like Christians in Iraq they faired much better under the dictators. There would appear to be a religious tolerance issue with the new leadership in both countries - of interest the Christian presence in Egypt predates Islam by hundreds of years (that can be said of Christianity period) but the church in Egypt is said to have been founded by on of the apostles back in the day and has maintained its unique identity over the millenia even through the Muslim conquests

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:01 | 1030187 nope-1004
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This news oughtta be good for another sale of 5,000 short contracts of SLV by the Morgue.


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:49 | 1030550 frippy
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Hmmmm.....yours is better!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:43 | 1030698 RECISION
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If this Al Jazeera update is to be believed...

Umm... what update...?

Was there supposed to be a link in here somewhere???

Unless you can give me something a bit better than an unsubstantiated claim - I call "bullshit".




Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:10 | 1030226 Azannoth
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hOlY sHiT is hitting the fan

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 17:27 | 1030802 AnonymousAnarchist
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According to McClatchy via ICYMI...

Israa Abdel Fattah, 32, a labor organizer and blogger, shared her personal file with McClatchy and marveled at the thoroughness of the surveillance, which included detailed transcripts of e-mails sent from her personal Gmail account and phone conversations she'd had with her ex-husband. The feeling of violation was indescribable, she said. "I knew they were watching me, but I never imagined they knew all this information about me," she said. "My friends tried to take me out to dinner that night; they tried to make me laugh, but I couldn't. I told them I should be alone, so I took my papers and went home."

Perhaps the most controversial document to ricochet around Internet message boards was one that purports to lay out State Security's involvement in a deadly church bombing on New Year's Day in the port city of Alexandria. The bombing killed 21 people and wounded 80, the worst violence against Egypt's Coptic Christian minority in more than a decade. The legitimacy of the document hasn't been determined, but its distribution touched off protests Sunday in Cairo by hundreds of Coptic Christians.

You should read the whole thing but I wouldn't be surprised if these "reported" clashes had little to do with religious differences.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 20:46 | 1031555 downwiththebanks
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'alCIAda' gets around.  It just goes by different names - Blackwater, Dyncorp, Xe.  Put headscarves on a few Whiteboy terrorists, sew the seeds of dissension, and repeat.

The perfect recipe for dealing with a general strike amidst a REVOLUTION!

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 09:43 | 1032381 chindit13
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Jesu fuckin Christo (and I say that with the true spirit of ecumenicalism), get out of your shell and go see the world.  There are fuckheads everywhere and nobody needs the CIA or anybody else to stir up trouble between people of different faiths, or colors, or tribes.  You think Christians have it easy in Pakistan?  Copts in Egypt?  You think the Moslems and Hindus in India just continually embrace each other and never utter an unkind word?  Christ, Americans are such fucking naive children, fed a diet of cheap pulp fiction and Hollywood thrillers, and thinking this pabulum gives them special insight into the world at large.  Guess what?  That stuff is fiction.  Entertainment.  Slap yourself back to silly, because you've gone too far.

A couple years ago a bunch of Buddhist monks went batshit crazy in Burma and burned alive a few Moslem families, including the children.  Why?  Because somebody imported some cloth material that had on it a loom wheel symbol, which represented the Wheel of Life as far as the Buddhists were concerned.  Well, somebody made some women's longyis out of the material, and this drove the monks wild.  Why?  Because women are "dirty", so a woman wearing a Buddhist sacred symbol on her nether region was considered blasphemy.  Then somebody said it was Moslems who imported the cloth and sewed the longyis.  Mindless violence ensued.  And these monks are the most respected members of the community, because they sit on their asses all day and chant, and pretend they don't give a shit about anything.

That's how humans sometimes behave.

Of course, in your mind the CIA or the Rothschilds probably were responsible.  We're always seeing comments here along the lines of "wake the fuck up" and see the CIA/Mossad/MI6/Bilderberger/Rothschild/Trilaterialist/Mason hand in everything.  Well, I say wake the fuck up and notice the ubiquitous hand of poorly evolved and irrational humanity in everything. 

Yes, I'm being impolite here.  Fuck it.  I have no more patience with intellectual infants.  ZH has become a magnet for goddamn loons, albeit loons who have delusions of knowledge and sophistication.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:48 | 1030128 NOTW777
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breaking out? muslims have been killing and persecuting Christians at a vigorous pace for some time.  the MSM simply ignores it

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:02 | 1030196 Idiot Savant
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And Christians do the same to Muslims. How is it out in far right field?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:45 | 1030539 NOTW777
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thats not true. more Christians are being killed by muslims now then ever before.

its a quiet one way crusade

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:27 | 1030636 Idiot Savant
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its a quiet one way crusade

Hmmm...I know that Christian armies have illegally invaded, and are occupying, Iraq and Afghanistan, but I wasn't aware of Muslim armies invading Christian lands - do tell.


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 18:41 | 1031074 malek
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Oh, right! And there was a small occupation of Spain as well as I remember by some religous group

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:00 | 1032175 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Allah hates non Muslims. Muslims are only doing what the Prophet Mohammed told them to do.

Read the Koran. Muslims have a right to treat non Muslims differently. They can even make non Muslims pay a tax.

Allah fucking hates non Muslims.


Allah is a pimp.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:03 | 1030198 Pseudo Anonym
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muslims have been killing and persecuting Christians

oh yeah, here we go. what about the 'Christians' killing and persecuting everybody that is not Christian? Starting with the native people of N.A.? never mind the rest that preceded that time? Why? because that is the christian thing to do, is it not? That's what I want to know.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:16 | 1030232 Azannoth
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Ever since there has been a Single God there has been killing in his name - The Da Vinci Code


I propose a 11th Commandment 'Ya shall not kill in God's name or go to hell'(wouldn't a wise and mercifull god make that comandment? makes ya think don't ya) actually the 2th says 'Ya shall not use God's name in vain' I guess it means the same it's in interpretation that the people have a problem with

But than again what would be the fun in religion if you could not kill an infidel from time to time

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:21 | 1030264 Michael
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Sounds like Psy-Ops to me.

This may just be some frustration so I'll have to wait for the youtube video.

Christians protecting Muslims during their prayers in Tahrir Square - Egypt

Christians Guarding Muslims During Prayer

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:25 | 1030629 SWRichmond
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Agree; divide and conquer.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 18:16 | 1030942 Wascally Wabbit
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Exactly.  And just in time to distract paranoid GB conservatives from Republicans proposing real budget cuts. 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:39 | 1030324 pazmaker
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Actually it already exist in Commandment # 6 and Commandment # 10. Don't blame God for man's failings.

Commandment # 6  Thou shall not Murder

Commandment #10 (paraphrase) Thou shall not covet anything your neighbor has.


If you want ot go further,  Jesus said a new Commandment I give you  "love one another as I have loved you."

I see no justification here for killing in God's name, although all religions have done so in the past.


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:02 | 1030413 tired1
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Just to be clear: Moses' Commandments were to be applied to 'Jews' and not ther neighbors.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:10 | 1030441 pazmaker
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We could have a debate on that, but somehow I don't think I would convince you nor would you convince me..but if one truely believes that it was God that gave them to Moses, then one could believe that the Jews do not have exclusive rights to those truths, just as those who follow the Tao do not have exclusive rights to the truths taught by Lao Tzu.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:20 | 1030466 Azannoth
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If 'god' was fair and just there would be no such thing as a 'choosen nation' nor promissed land, but YHWH is not an equal oportunity god he likes some and kills others

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 00:52 | 1032153 prole
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Yeah I've had trouble with that concept myself.  God is such a loving God I get all that- and so just and good....So he created all things.. After creating his dear precious "chosen people" so wtf did he bother creating everyone else, the untermensche, so he could have something to hate?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:19 | 1030468 tired1
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My point s that the application of Mosic Law to the 'goyem' by the new Chrstians was a revolutionary concept.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:22 | 1030480 pazmaker
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Understood....  thanks!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:57 | 1030747 snowball777
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So now it's a "Like New" Covenant...low mileage?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:34 | 1030663 MrSteve
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Biblically speaking, from the 1611 Authorized Version: Gen 4:8-9

the very first murder with Cain slaying his brother Abel was over differences in worshipping God and human jealousy over God's perceived favor of who did it better. Murderous rage is as old as mankind, in the blood like seawater per Report from Iron Mountain.


History shows things haven't changed.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 19:12 | 1031200 Pseudo Anonym
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differences in worshipping God and human jealousy over God's perceived favor

you, sir, biblically speaking, quoting the good book, gen 4:8-9, forget gen 1:27 and gen 2:7, where it says that a sovereign human being was created in the image of God, and God (Mother Nature) is you - which commands you, sir, to respect other Gods, in this case, other human beings made in the image of God;  therefore, no killing is warranted

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 18:49 | 1031110 defender
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not true:

Leviticus 24:22 - You are to have the same law for the alien and the native-born. I am the LORD your God.

I believe that you are thinking of the Muslim religion

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:20 | 1030470 SheepHerder
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Tool puts it best:


Angels on the sideline,
Puzzled and amused.
Why did Father give these humans free will?
Now they're all confused.

Don't these talking monkeys know that
Eden has enough to go around?
Plenty in this holy garden, silly old monkeys,
Where there's one you're bound to divide it

Right in two

Angels on the sideline,
Baffled and confused.
Father blessed them all with reason.
And this is what they choose.
(and this is what they choose)

Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They forge a blade,
And when there's one they're bound to divide it,

Right in two.
Right in two.

Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They make a club
And beat their brother... down.
How they survived so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability
to lift an eye to heaven conscious of his fleeting time here

Gotta divide it all right in two

They fight, till they die
Over earth, over sky
They fight, over life,
Over brawn, over air and light,
Over love, over sun. Over blood
They fight, or they die, all for what? For our rising!

Angels on the sideline again
Been too long with patience and reason
Angels on the sideline again
Wondering when this tug of war will end

Gotta divide it all right in two
Right in two

Right in two...

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:39 | 1030510 JR
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Was that the King James version of the Da Vinci Code?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:27 | 1030639 Pseudo Anonym
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Was that the King James version of the Da Vinci Code?

how about: a) genesis 1:26 followed by; b) genesis 2:7

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:48 | 1030544 NOTW777
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you are mixing and confusing issues.  muslims kill christians because of jihad and religious edicts.  

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:19 | 1030261 Dr. Porkchop
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Us atheists have a lot of catching up to do.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:26 | 1030280 TeamAmerica
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Damn skippy.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:30 | 1030286 Azannoth
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I don't see the need to prosecute any religion, just lock them up in an Asylumn and be done with it

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:37 | 1030317 EvlTheCat
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The Earth is their asylumn.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:24 | 1030485 Cognitive Dissonance
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Rather Earth was made into the asylum.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 19:44 | 1031324 New_Meat
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but, made by (who/what/?)?

- Ned

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:46 | 1030354 strannick
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Thats the kind of reasoning that fascistic, nazi, communitistic, Whateveristic reasoning Athiests usually use for their 'its-in-your-best-interest-honest!' genocidal schemes. Good to see your keeping the faith.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:32 | 1030289 iDealMeat
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+1  Statistically, atheists know a lot more about religion then members of any particular religion..


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:45 | 1030341 strannick
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I guess we'll just have to take your word for it? Wait, now its not a 'statistic'

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:48 | 1030335 strannick
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Naw, Atheists took the lead a few years after 'Athesim' became doctrinaire. Hail Stalin-Hitler-Mao!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:49 | 1030360 Dr. Porkchop
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Do you mean Dawkins and Hitchens?


I took a look around at Dawkins forum, they seemed a very angry and humorless lot. Hitchens, he is a twat. He was a complete Iraq war apologist before he started on his atheism schtick.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:46 | 1030350 doggings
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all we have to watch out for are the Otters and their hatred of our use tables instead of our tummies.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 20:47 | 1031579 downwiththebanks
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Is the Pope still a Nazi?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:56 | 1030139 alangreedspank
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I heard from a friend that he saw a news report from Egypt showing Christians protecting Muslims during their praying time, and vice versa, keeping an eye open for extremists wanting to blow up churches/mosques.

I hope Al-Jazeera is just doing what other MSM outlets are doing most of the time and that this isn't true.

On the other hand, what can you expect from those Arab countries. Islamofascim ? Socialism ? They haven't been strong on classical liberalism lately AFAIK.


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:03 | 1030417 chumbawamba
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Yeah, what can you expect from those A-rab countries?  We oughtta just blow the bejeezuz out of them and turn the entire place into a parking lot.  Because, what can you expect from us White countries?

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:34 | 1030662 Uncle Remus
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We oughtta just blow the bejeezuz out of them

Wait. I thought not having any bejeezuz in them to begin with was the issue.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:52 | 1030141 T Rex
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God is great, let's leave it at that.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:19 | 1030259 Azannoth
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God is a great fucked up piece of homophobic murderous piece of slime crawling the heaven - I can agree with this version

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:31 | 1030290 nonclaim
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You described the fallen angel in hell; don't mix up the characters.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:44 | 1030344 alien-IQ
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"maybe there is no devil...maybe god just drinks a little"

Tom Waits

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:03 | 1030424 chumbawamba
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On that note, maybe God is a methamphetamine addict.

Everything would then make sense.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:57 | 1030563 downrodeo
Wed, 03/09/2011 - 04:03 | 1032315 baby_BLYTHE
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Joe <3

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:05 | 1030398 Pseudo Anonym
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he described the Poope meister in Vatican;

excluding Azannoth's reference to heaven and, of course, god

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:35 | 1030666 kaiserhoff
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Thoughtful link.  I promise to kill no one today in the name of the poison tree frog, unless ordered to by my rice krispies.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:49 | 1030715 Uncle Remus
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unless ordered to by my rice krispies

Thank God! I thought I was the only one. One.


Oh wait. Can I say that  - Thank God - on here?

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:03 | 1032177 prole
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Azannoth: Do not lie with a man as with a woman, it is an abomination lol !!eleven

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:37 | 1030312 iDealMeat
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God hates you..  He, she, it, only rewards the top 1%. The elite group that build opulent structures for worship..  or..  wait..  perhaps the elite created a god so they could worship it.. can't remember..   don't care..



Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:53 | 1030144 JW n FL
Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:55 | 1030146 alien-IQ
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and there you have it, the justification for an utterly convenient.

I love the smell of Psyops in the morning...smells like...another middle east war.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:07 | 1030210 JW n FL
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pys-ops are NOT used on Americans... HOW DARE YOU SAY SUCH A THING!!!!

Saying things like that are un-american!!! You Dooms Day, Goobermint Boogieman Freak!!!

all you zero hedge people are crazy!!!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:12 | 1030230 alien-IQ
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I believe the official name is Operation Kobayashi Maru....(if it's should be)

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:13 | 1030240 JW n FL
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Sir, Yes Sir!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:47 | 1030351 TeamAmerica
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Will you admit you were wrong when no such thing happens?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:27 | 1030491 alien-IQ
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Only if you agree to walk around wearing a "Free Palestine" t-shirt if it does.

how about it?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:23 | 1030626 TeamAmerica
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Bet: USA does not invade Eqypt.  I'll gladly wear the t-shirt if we do.  "Free Palestine with Purchase of Any Nation of Equal or Greater Value".

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:50 | 1030721 Uncle Remus
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Free Palestine with Purchase of Any Nation of Equal or Greater Value

WTF will the Chinese do with it?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:57 | 1030154 Cognitive Dissonance
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Sounds like a CIA distraction. Gotta keep people riled up, not all rowing in one direction.

Contrary to popular belief about what the powers that be might be thinking (based upon what they say, which is always a lie) it may just not be in the USA's "best interest" for stability to be returned to the ME. After all, what is in the best interest of the USA (read that to mean the Ponzi powers that be) is a continuation of the Ponzi. With the USA running the Ponzi and the dollar at critical support, maybe what is in the best interest of the USA Ponzi is a flight to safety into USA Treasury bonds.

The market has had a two year run. So what if it gets taken down a few pegs. The dollar must survive or all is lost. It's interesting that both stocks and the dollar index are up today.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:59 | 1030177 Cleanclog
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Yep, the Treasury has to get $66Billion off in new issue auctions this week, so Fed can POMO monetize $44B later this month.

Eventually, most conflicts (that start as economic) have a religious element.  Easier for the people to understand and take sides. 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:08 | 1030220 Pseudo Anonym
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(read that to mean the Ponzi powers that be)

may I inquire who might be the "powers that be"? Are we talking about a power structure w/o leadership? nobody in charge of the ship? just disorganized Ponzi scheme? out of nowhere? w/o nobody's blessing? That's what I want to know.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:14 | 1030243 Cognitive Dissonance
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Why do you wish to inquire? That's what I want to know.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:30 | 1030288 Pseudo Anonym
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Why do you wish to inquire?

I wish to inquire, if I may, and if it is not offending you, since you make references to the 'powers' that be, and you appear to assume that all of us know who you are talking about; but being as ignorant as I am - I do not know who the "powers" you point to are; therefore, I wish to inquire who is in charge of the ponzi scheme you refer to. please understand, I have yet to come across a ponzi scheme (or pyramid scheme) that would come about sporadically, w/o "someone's" blessing; since we are discussing religion.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:31 | 1030291 Alienated Serf
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why wouldn't someone want to know who is stirrin the pot, if you say someone is stirring it?  sounds like reasonable question to me. 



Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:03 | 1030422 Cognitive Dissonance
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This is a game, an agenda, that Pseudo Anonym plays with me on occasion under my posts and my articles. No matter what answer I give, he will basically ask the same question, always ending with "That's what I want to know".

Finally he will tell us his views on the subject. And he has very specific beliefs. He isn't asking because he wants to know, he is asking because he already has his own answers and he wishes to refute mine. This is his way of demeaning someone else by never accepting the answer given to him but by repeating the question over and over and then ending it the same way. "That's what I want to know."

I don't play the game any more. I simply ask him why he is asking.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:06 | 1030434 chumbawamba
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I, for one, want to know if he shaves his balls.

PA, do you shave your balls?  If so, why?  If not, why not?

That's what I want to know.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:15 | 1030450 Cognitive Dissonance
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This is where AN wishes to bring us. From two months ago. Notice the "That's what I want to know" at the end.


by Pseudo Anonym
on Mon, 09/27/2010 - 18:39

well put, LeB. Some additional ideas who the puppet masters might be can be found in this source: . When will people stop being naive and quit blaming the Fed. That's what I want to know.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:33 | 1030500 Pseudo Anonym
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I, for one, want to know if he shaves his balls.

HE? that's one helluva projection. What ever gave you the idea that I am not shaving my twat for my husband? That's what I want to know.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 17:19 | 1030809 Lndmvr
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Never ever ever heard a woman call it a twat.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 17:40 | 1030879 Cognitive Dissonance
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Agreed. Strictly a description a male would use. In this case he was describing his own special female body part.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 18:10 | 1030983 chumbawamba
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I for one find it erotic that PA is shaving his twat for his husband.


I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:34 | 1030504 Alienated Serf
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thanks for the answer CD.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:39 | 1030513 Arkadaba
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Fight the powers that be ....


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 19:53 | 1031347 New_Meat
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"... (based upon what they say, which is always a lie) ..."

c'mon. You know better than that.  They have this stochastic random generator thingie (aka ) that tells them whether to answer or nay.

3 ways to lie:

- Tell a lie

- Tell a half truth,

- or tell the truth, but so unconvincingly that everyone is sure u are lying.  Of these, this is the greatest art form.

(my source is RAH, original is probably in a language that none of us could understand).

gotta' keep 'em guessing.

- Ned

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 09:28 | 1032570 chindit13
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Absolutely must be CIA!  I mean, never in the history of humanity, until 1946 or whenever Wild Bill established the CIA, did any human being ever take offense towards another human over such matters as race, religion, or gender.  Copts and Moslems in Egypt have a millennium and a half worth of complete mutual respect.  Woodstock, so I'm told, was based on the warmth and understanding shared by the Shi'ites and Sunni's of the world, Moslems and Hindus, Catholics and Lutherans during the Renaissance, and Jews and everybody.  Hugs all around.  Peace and love.  Hey, I hear the Bible Thumpers can even trace that little Cain and Abel misunderstanding to a CIA disinformation campaign.  Of course the snake that hooked the parents was on the Rothschild's payroll (his pay stubbs were stored in Building 7), but everything else in history was CIA.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:56 | 1030163 gwar5
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Coptic Christians and a church were attacked again just last week. Some Egyptians helped, but they are seriously outnumbered by the Islamic supremacists.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:39 | 1030318 Hammurabi
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every day Copts get attacked, Nazi Egypt

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:49 | 1030364 strannick
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What? How dare you be so intolerant! Dont let facts get in the way of an anemic ideology

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 20:52 | 1031597 downwiththebanks
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"Some Egyptians helped".

Well said.  They're called provocateurs.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:02 | 1030186 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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Now is the time for all good jews to come to the aid of their agenda and orchestrate an overthrow.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:03 | 1030189 johnQpublic
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too bad god is such an asshole that he has decided who will take what religion primarily based on geography


oh to be living in the forests of new guinea where no one has heard of god and you are still free to worship rocks and trees and the sun,stars and moon

now lets all draw straws, pick which is truly the one god, and go cage match crazy 'til three fourths of the planet is dead

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:05 | 1030209 pazmaker
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Most common error of man....blaming religion on God.


Don't blame God for religion....... think about that.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:44 | 1030337 iDealMeat
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Most common error of man is God and religion.


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:47 | 1030356 TeamAmerica
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Most common excuse of man is God and religion.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:51 | 1030372 pazmaker
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No need to capitalize "God" if you believe that.  also no need to try and debate as philosophers over the years have tried to prove and disprove God, which neither can do with absolute certainty.

I admire your faith as I think it takes more faith to believe we some how got here by mere chance with no intelligent design.

I don't know how many times I tried to build a little house with lincoln logs by just throwing them against the wall....for some reason they never fall together and form a house.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:08 | 1030435 Alienated Serf
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give it a couple trillion tries, it'll happen

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:12 | 1030448 pazmaker
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you have great faith!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:12 | 1030600 Alienated Serf
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i have zero faith in a god or humans.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:42 | 1030689 pazmaker
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but you have great faith in chaos forming complex beings! I admire your faith! I don't have such a great capacity for faith thus I am not an atheist.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:40 | 1030687 kaiserhoff
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How about taking Christianity on it's own terms?

Anything good in the world is there because of the grace of god.  Anything bad is there because we have sinned, and fallen short of the grace of god. 

Fine, but it works just as well for the poison tree frog.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 20:54 | 1031608 downwiththebanks
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"God" is an invention of religion.

Like George Carlin once said, "Long live the fucking sun.  At least it's real."

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:53 | 1030383 strannick
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"oh to be living in the forests of new guinea where no one has heard of god and you are still free to worship rocks and trees and the sun,stars and moon"

only decadent westerners can afford to hold such revisionist, naive outlooks. Sing us a few bars of 'Imagine' would ya?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:45 | 1030700 kaiserhoff
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Yes, but isn't it pretty to think so?


Ship me somewheres East of Suez, where the best is like the worst,

Where there ain't no ten commandments, and a man can raise a thirst.


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:05 | 1030192 spank-of-america
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In the Middle East Christians still meet and profess their faith under persecution?


In Laodecia err America, Christians stop going to church if there's no  free coffee! I guess that's what happen when you worship money, wealth, and prosperity under the guise of God.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:06 | 1030201 b_thunder
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" long before Israel is involved" -  A very very long time.  What does Israel have to do in the christians/muslims conflict? 

What is interesting is if reports are proven correct, how long will it take for Pat Robertsons, Mike Huckabees and Sarah Palins  to start calling on the "treasonous muslim President" to divert the fleet from the coast of Lybia and start bombing Egypt.  After all, the US military bombed Serbia and protected muslims in the 1990s.

Nothing's better than a 21st century version of the crusades....

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:16 | 1030245 alien-IQ
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"What does Israel have to do in the christians/muslims conflict?"

now THAT is FUNNY!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:46 | 1030542 Arkadaba
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Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:42 | 1030696 Uncle Remus
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Nothing's better than a 21st century version of the crusades....


Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:14 | 1032191 prole
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"US .. bombed Serbia.. Christians.. to protect moslems.. 1990s.. Now: new crusade.."

Yeah except as you noted, this time we are the Moslems.





Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:05 | 1030202 johnQpublic
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fear is your only god

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:11 | 1030215 Sudden Debt
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Oké, first : Those christians over there are VERY, VERY orthodox.

To make a comparison with my country:

Normal people speak dutch

Bourgeoisie speaks french in the big cities in Flanders (that's why we don't get along with the walloons without any true reason).


In Egypt:

The rich differentiate by being christian orthodox (nutcases)


The poor are muslims.


Those "Christians" spit on the muslims and don't have anything to do with western christians.



Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:12 | 1030231 velobabe
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knotcases, funny bare†

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:12 | 1030233 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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Do you eat waffles for breakfast?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:14 | 1030241 Sudden Debt
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not for breakfast.

My wife sticks one in my lunchbox almost every day with a note :)

if I'm nice, she does.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:44 | 1030336 Hammurabi
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The Christians area in Egypt is the poorest area in Egypt it called Said Masser

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:53 | 1030377 TeamAmerica
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You are totally off-base on who the Egyptian Christians are in the socio-economic spectrum.   More importantly,


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:16 | 1030607 Sudden Debt
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ps: I'm a fan :)

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:11 | 1030223 velobabe
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i read on, only got #25 in that pole that øhedge got #9 in, said a woman's rights protest was being held in cairo, were getting attacked. one man yelled out to the woman protestors, you should be at home, where you belong! idiot men, think we should be at home where we belong. thank god american men don't feel that way. thank god†


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:27 | 1030270 Oh regional Indian
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And another lever is yanked. Yanks. Ahhh....I get it.

Anyway, India is such a fractal reflection of this set-up. All the communities are mixed up (and the software boom moved people all over the map). And for all the rhetoric, there is no love lost, just co-existing. Someone kills a cow, hindu's go berserk. Throw a pig head into a mosque, muslims riot.

Burn a missionary (yep, it happened a few years ago) and Christians riot.

So flashpoints are everywhere. Easy for thuggo-olitical class to rile it anytime they need.

I've been in the midst and aftermath of a hindu-muslim riot and a political riot during my tme with a Governor.

All reason is lost.

When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong – faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late.

  • Bene Gesserit proverb


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:25 | 1030277 Dr. Porkchop
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Religion is just another thing to divide people. We are pretty good as a species at dividing ourselves up into groups along arbitrary lines and coming up with reasons why we're better than the other groups. From there, its just a short hop skip and a jump to the genocide. 

We excel at violence. Wait until the US and the rest of the western world cracks up. There are so many tribes we'll divide up into, the violence will be exquisite.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:33 | 1030296 bugs_
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those who zerohedge and those who do not

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:34 | 1030300 Cashboy
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I could not work out whether the next world war was going to be China vs USA or the West (Christians) vs the Arabs (Muslims).

It looks as though there is going to be a call for the Christian Crusade Mk10 with the Jews in support........LOL

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:37 | 1030313 Dr. Porkchop
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Nothing gets a Christian fundamentalist hard faster than a biblical apocalypse fantasy with the Jews starting a war with the Muslims.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:48 | 1030359 Alienated Serf
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Huckabee is rubbin one out to this.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:37 | 1030314 taint
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Whether it be the money handlers, the dirt kissers or the clinic bombers, religion basically sucks.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:39 | 1030322 zeek
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Hopefully, we're all on the same side on this one... freedom of religion should be enjoyed by all, regardless of geography.

As for killing, don't hide behind God... he's not with you on that one.

It is disheartening to listen to those who attach acts of man to God.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 20:57 | 1031623 downwiththebanks
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"God" doesn't like killing?  Really?

Have you read the "Good Book"?  Seems like a lot of it going on up in there.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:41 | 1030327 InconvenientCou...
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>my God can kick your God's ass.

<<my God needs help, so I'll kill you on his behalf.

>>> I'm an atheist. I'll referee your fight and take your women and food after you're both rotting on the battlefield.


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:44 | 1030338 Dr. Porkchop
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What they're saying is "My god's dick is bigger."

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:58 | 1030397 MachoMan
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Is it so large and heavy he cannot lift it?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:41 | 1030328 JR
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Was it two people arguing on the streets of Cairo, was it a demonstration, were thousands of people involved? Perhaps we’re talking about freedom here – the kind of freedom that allows individuals to give their opinions, the kind of freedom not controlled by the State. 

At any rate, words can be used by the enemies of freedom to sow divisions and to advance their special agendas.  With the report above, we can now watch the unfolding of special agendas and charges of religious intolerance.  What I worry most about, in this instance, are the charges that would criticize Egypt’s newfound freedoms and its route to representative government.

On February 3, the Daily Mail wrote:

“Striking photos of unity have emerged from the chaos in Egypt as Christian protesters stood together to protect Muslims as they prayed.

“A group of Christians joined hands and faced out surrounding hundreds of Muslims protesters left vulnerable as they knelt in prayer.

“The photos were taken in Cairo by Nevin Zaki. She shared the images over Twitter, writing, 'Bear in mind that this pic was taken a month after z Alexandria bombing where many Christians died in vain. Yet we all stood by each other.'

“The suicide bombing, shortly after the New Year's Day, killed 23 Coptic Christians, who make up 10 percent of Egypt's 80 million person population...”

“'Some Muslims have been guarding Coptic churches while Christians pray, and on Friday, Christians were guarding the mosques while Muslims prayed.'”

Read more:

Those who say, “Oh, here we go...” are those who want to return Egypt to tyranny, to a dictatorship, by claiming the way Egypt is going is leading to religious persecution. 

The object of these special interest statements is similar to those who have criticized the Egyptian Revolution as merely a military coup.  The reason they make this false statement is to suggest that a strong Western intervention would put the country back in order again.  They don’t want freedom; they are saying it would be better to control the people, to keep them bottled up, to shut them up...

The question is, better for whom?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:41 | 1030332 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Sounds like a good time to break out those Holy Hand Grenades.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:18 | 1030471 Wm the Shrubber
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Of course, the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.  It is one of the sacred relics that Brother Maynard carries......

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 17:02 | 1030766 Uncle Remus
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Oh great - an arms race.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 19:08 | 1031176 defender
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Ha ha, I already have two from the Black Knight!  #winning

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:42 | 1030334 Alienated Serf
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the women aren't having a much better time of it...

the instability is just going to increase, which of course makes a good excuse for Uncle Sam to get more involved.  awesome.


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 21:04 | 1031650 downwiththebanks
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The "armed men" have been attacking strikers all over the country for weeks.  They're a lot like Pinkertons.  Or the little piggies in Wisconsin doing the wet-work of the Koch brothers. 

The REVOLUTION has these fuckers on the run, and they're lashing out (against women, here).  They know their days are numbered, and they're trying to delay the inevitable - REVOLUTIONARY JUSTICE.

As the Jacobin Saint-Just once wrote, "one does not make revolution by halves."  It's time to strike these people down ...  and those who fund them (got that, Mr. Panetta?).

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:50 | 1030363 Lapri
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Started on March 5, it looks like, over a romantic relationship between a Christian man and a Muslim woman in a village south of Cairo.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:59 | 1030404 EvlTheCat
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O Achmed, Achmed, wherefore art thou Achmed?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:51 | 1030374 Dr. Porkchop
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I went to church a few times with an ex girlfriend, just to humor her. All I could think is that if I wanted someone to spend hours ranting at me about how everything I do is wrong, I can call my mother.

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