And Now It Gets Religious: Al Jazeera Reports That Clashes Break Out In Cairo Between Christians And Muslims

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Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:47 | 1030118 ryanseventyfive
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Holy crap

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:58 | 1030138 AN0NYM0US
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The Christians in Egypt saw the writing on the wall some weeks ago, ironically like Christians in Iraq they faired much better under the dictators. There would appear to be a religious tolerance issue with the new leadership in both countries - of interest the Christian presence in Egypt predates Islam by hundreds of years (that can be said of Christianity period) but the church in Egypt is said to have been founded by on of the apostles back in the day and has maintained its unique identity over the millenia even through the Muslim conquests

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:01 | 1030187 nope-1004
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This news oughtta be good for another sale of 5,000 short contracts of SLV by the Morgue.

 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:49 | 1030550 frippy
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Hmmmm.....yours is better!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:43 | 1030698 RECISION
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If this Al Jazeera update is to be believed...

Umm... what update...?

Was there supposed to be a link in here somewhere???

Unless you can give me something a bit better than an unsubstantiated claim - I call "bullshit".

 

 

 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:10 | 1030226 Azannoth
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hOlY sHiT is hitting the fan

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 17:27 | 1030802 AnonymousAnarchist
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According to McClatchy via ICYMI...

Israa Abdel Fattah, 32, a labor organizer and blogger, shared her personal file with McClatchy and marveled at the thoroughness of the surveillance, which included detailed transcripts of e-mails sent from her personal Gmail account and phone conversations she'd had with her ex-husband. The feeling of violation was indescribable, she said. "I knew they were watching me, but I never imagined they knew all this information about me," she said. "My friends tried to take me out to dinner that night; they tried to make me laugh, but I couldn't. I told them I should be alone, so I took my papers and went home."

Perhaps the most controversial document to ricochet around Internet message boards was one that purports to lay out State Security's involvement in a deadly church bombing on New Year's Day in the port city of Alexandria. The bombing killed 21 people and wounded 80, the worst violence against Egypt's Coptic Christian minority in more than a decade. The legitimacy of the document hasn't been determined, but its distribution touched off protests Sunday in Cairo by hundreds of Coptic Christians.

You should read the whole thing but I wouldn't be surprised if these "reported" clashes had little to do with religious differences.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 20:46 | 1031555 downwiththebanks
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'alCIAda' gets around.  It just goes by different names - Blackwater, Dyncorp, Xe.  Put headscarves on a few Whiteboy terrorists, sew the seeds of dissension, and repeat.

The perfect recipe for dealing with a general strike amidst a REVOLUTION!

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 09:43 | 1032381 chindit13
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Jesu fuckin Christo (and I say that with the true spirit of ecumenicalism), get out of your shell and go see the world.  There are fuckheads everywhere and nobody needs the CIA or anybody else to stir up trouble between people of different faiths, or colors, or tribes.  You think Christians have it easy in Pakistan?  Copts in Egypt?  You think the Moslems and Hindus in India just continually embrace each other and never utter an unkind word?  Christ, Americans are such fucking naive children, fed a diet of cheap pulp fiction and Hollywood thrillers, and thinking this pabulum gives them special insight into the world at large.  Guess what?  That stuff is fiction.  Entertainment.  Slap yourself back to silly, because you've gone too far.

A couple years ago a bunch of Buddhist monks went batshit crazy in Burma and burned alive a few Moslem families, including the children.  Why?  Because somebody imported some cloth material that had on it a loom wheel symbol, which represented the Wheel of Life as far as the Buddhists were concerned.  Well, somebody made some women's longyis out of the material, and this drove the monks wild.  Why?  Because women are "dirty", so a woman wearing a Buddhist sacred symbol on her nether region was considered blasphemy.  Then somebody said it was Moslems who imported the cloth and sewed the longyis.  Mindless violence ensued.  And these monks are the most respected members of the community, because they sit on their asses all day and chant, and pretend they don't give a shit about anything.

That's how humans sometimes behave.

Of course, in your mind the CIA or the Rothschilds probably were responsible.  We're always seeing comments here along the lines of "wake the fuck up" and see the CIA/Mossad/MI6/Bilderberger/Rothschild/Trilaterialist/Mason hand in everything.  Well, I say wake the fuck up and notice the ubiquitous hand of poorly evolved and irrational humanity in everything. 

Yes, I'm being impolite here.  Fuck it.  I have no more patience with intellectual infants.  ZH has become a magnet for goddamn loons, albeit loons who have delusions of knowledge and sophistication.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 13:48 | 1030128 NOTW777
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breaking out? muslims have been killing and persecuting Christians at a vigorous pace for some time.  the MSM simply ignores it

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:02 | 1030196 Idiot Savant
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And Christians do the same to Muslims. How is it out in far right field?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:45 | 1030539 NOTW777
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thats not true. more Christians are being killed by muslims now then ever before.

its a quiet one way crusade

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:27 | 1030636 Idiot Savant
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its a quiet one way crusade

Hmmm...I know that Christian armies have illegally invaded, and are occupying, Iraq and Afghanistan, but I wasn't aware of Muslim armies invading Christian lands - do tell.

 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 18:41 | 1031074 malek
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Oh, right! And there was a small occupation of Spain as well as I remember by some religous group

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:00 | 1032175 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Allah hates non Muslims. Muslims are only doing what the Prophet Mohammed told them to do.

Read the Koran. Muslims have a right to treat non Muslims differently. They can even make non Muslims pay a tax.

Allah fucking hates non Muslims.

 

Allah is a pimp.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:03 | 1030198 Pseudo Anonym
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muslims have been killing and persecuting Christians

oh yeah, here we go. what about the 'Christians' killing and persecuting everybody that is not Christian? Starting with the native people of N.A.? never mind the rest that preceded that time? Why? because that is the christian thing to do, is it not? That's what I want to know.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:16 | 1030232 Azannoth
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Ever since there has been a Single God there has been killing in his name - The Da Vinci Code

 

I propose a 11th Commandment 'Ya shall not kill in God's name or go to hell'(wouldn't a wise and mercifull god make that comandment? makes ya think don't ya) actually the 2th says 'Ya shall not use God's name in vain' I guess it means the same it's in interpretation that the people have a problem with

But than again what would be the fun in religion if you could not kill an infidel from time to time

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:21 | 1030264 Michael
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Sounds like Psy-Ops to me.

This may just be some frustration so I'll have to wait for the youtube video.

Christians protecting Muslims during their prayers in Tahrir Square - Egypt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqXfZTgOCOE


Christians Guarding Muslims During Prayer

http://www.dailypaul.com/156122/christians-guarding-muslims-during-prayer?page=1

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:25 | 1030629 SWRichmond
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Agree; divide and conquer.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 18:16 | 1030942 Wascally Wabbit
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Exactly.  And just in time to distract paranoid GB conservatives from Republicans proposing real budget cuts. 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:39 | 1030324 pazmaker
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Actually it already exist in Commandment # 6 and Commandment # 10. Don't blame God for man's failings.

Commandment # 6  Thou shall not Murder

Commandment #10 (paraphrase) Thou shall not covet anything your neighbor has.

 

If you want ot go further,  Jesus said a new Commandment I give you  "love one another as I have loved you."

I see no justification here for killing in God's name, although all religions have done so in the past.

 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:02 | 1030413 tired1
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Just to be clear: Moses' Commandments were to be applied to 'Jews' and not ther neighbors.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:10 | 1030441 pazmaker
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We could have a debate on that, but somehow I don't think I would convince you nor would you convince me..but if one truely believes that it was God that gave them to Moses, then one could believe that the Jews do not have exclusive rights to those truths, just as those who follow the Tao do not have exclusive rights to the truths taught by Lao Tzu.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:20 | 1030466 Azannoth
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If 'god' was fair and just there would be no such thing as a 'choosen nation' nor promissed land, but YHWH is not an equal oportunity god he likes some and kills others

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 00:52 | 1032153 prole
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Yeah I've had trouble with that concept myself.  God is such a loving God I get all that- and so just and good....So he created all things.. After creating his dear precious "chosen people" so wtf did he bother creating everyone else, the untermensche, so he could have something to hate?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:19 | 1030468 tired1
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My point s that the application of Mosic Law to the 'goyem' by the new Chrstians was a revolutionary concept.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:22 | 1030480 pazmaker
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tired1,

Understood....  thanks!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:57 | 1030747 snowball777
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So now it's a "Like New" Covenant...low mileage?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:34 | 1030663 MrSteve
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Biblically speaking, from the 1611 Authorized Version: Gen 4:8-9

http://sceti.library.upenn.edu/sceti/printedbooksNew/index.cfm?TextID=kj...

the very first murder with Cain slaying his brother Abel was over differences in worshipping God and human jealousy over God's perceived favor of who did it better. Murderous rage is as old as mankind, in the blood like seawater per Report from Iron Mountain.

 

History shows things haven't changed.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 19:12 | 1031200 Pseudo Anonym
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differences in worshipping God and human jealousy over God's perceived favor

you, sir, biblically speaking, quoting the good book, gen 4:8-9, forget gen 1:27 and gen 2:7, where it says that a sovereign human being was created in the image of God, and God (Mother Nature) is you - which commands you, sir, to respect other Gods, in this case, other human beings made in the image of God;  therefore, no killing is warranted

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 18:49 | 1031110 defender
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not true:

Leviticus 24:22 - You are to have the same law for the alien and the native-born. I am the LORD your God.

I believe that you are thinking of the Muslim religion

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:20 | 1030470 SheepHerder
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Tool puts it best:

 

Angels on the sideline,
Puzzled and amused.
Why did Father give these humans free will?
Now they're all confused.

Don't these talking monkeys know that
Eden has enough to go around?
Plenty in this holy garden, silly old monkeys,
Where there's one you're bound to divide it

Right in two

Angels on the sideline,
Baffled and confused.
Father blessed them all with reason.
And this is what they choose.
(and this is what they choose)

Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They forge a blade,
And when there's one they're bound to divide it,

Right in two.
Right in two.

Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They make a club
And beat their brother... down.
How they survived so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability
to lift an eye to heaven conscious of his fleeting time here

Gotta divide it all right in two

They fight, till they die
Over earth, over sky
They fight, over life,
Over brawn, over air and light,
Over love, over sun. Over blood
They fight, or they die, all for what? For our rising!

Angels on the sideline again
Been too long with patience and reason
Angels on the sideline again
Wondering when this tug of war will end

Gotta divide it all right in two
Right in two

Right in two...

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:39 | 1030510 JR
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Was that the King James version of the Da Vinci Code?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 16:27 | 1030639 Pseudo Anonym
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Was that the King James version of the Da Vinci Code?

how about: a) genesis 1:26 followed by; b) genesis 2:7

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:48 | 1030544 NOTW777
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you are mixing and confusing issues.  muslims kill christians because of jihad and religious edicts.  

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:19 | 1030261 Dr. Porkchop
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Us atheists have a lot of catching up to do.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:26 | 1030280 TeamAmerica
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Damn skippy.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:30 | 1030286 Azannoth
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I don't see the need to prosecute any religion, just lock them up in an Asylumn and be done with it

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:37 | 1030317 EvlTheCat
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The Earth is their asylumn.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 15:24 | 1030485 Cognitive Dissonance
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Rather Earth was made into the asylum.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 19:44 | 1031324 New_Meat
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but, made by (who/what/?)?

- Ned

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:46 | 1030354 strannick
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Thats the kind of reasoning that fascistic, nazi, communitistic, Whateveristic reasoning Athiests usually use for their 'its-in-your-best-interest-honest!' genocidal schemes. Good to see your keeping the faith.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:32 | 1030289 iDealMeat
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+1  Statistically, atheists know a lot more about religion then members of any particular religion..

 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:45 | 1030341 strannick
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I guess we'll just have to take your word for it? Wait, now its not a 'statistic'

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:48 | 1030335 strannick
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Naw, Atheists took the lead a few years after 'Athesim' became doctrinaire. Hail Stalin-Hitler-Mao!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:49 | 1030360 Dr. Porkchop
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Do you mean Dawkins and Hitchens?

 

I took a look around at Dawkins forum, they seemed a very angry and humorless lot. Hitchens, he is a twat. He was a complete Iraq war apologist before he started on his atheism schtick.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 14:46 | 1030350 doggings
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all we have to watch out for are the Otters and their hatred of our use tables instead of our tummies.

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