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The Christians in Egypt saw the writing on the wall some weeks ago, ironically like Christians in Iraq they faired much better under the dictators. There would appear to be a religious tolerance issue with the new leadership in both countries - of interest the Christian presence in Egypt predates Islam by hundreds of years (that can be said of Christianity period) but the church in Egypt is said to have been founded by on of the apostles back in the day and has maintained its unique identity over the millenia even through the Muslim conquests
This news oughtta be good for another sale of 5,000 short contracts of SLV by the Morgue.
Hmmmm.....yours is better!
If this Al Jazeera update is to be believed...
If this Al Jazeera update is to be believed...
Umm... what update...?
Was there supposed to be a link in here somewhere???
Unless you can give me something a bit better than an unsubstantiated claim - I call "bullshit".
hOlY sHiT is hitting the fan
According to McClatchy via ICYMI...
Israa Abdel Fattah, 32, a labor organizer and blogger, shared her personal file with McClatchy and marveled at the thoroughness of the surveillance, which included detailed transcripts of e-mails sent from her personal Gmail account and phone conversations she'd had with her ex-husband. The feeling of violation was indescribable, she said. "I knew they were watching me, but I never imagined they knew all this information about me," she said. "My friends tried to take me out to dinner that night; they tried to make me laugh, but I couldn't. I told them I should be alone, so I took my papers and went home."
Perhaps the most controversial document to ricochet around Internet message boards was one that purports to lay out State Security's involvement in a deadly church bombing on New Year's Day in the port city of Alexandria. The bombing killed 21 people and wounded 80, the worst violence against Egypt's Coptic Christian minority in more than a decade. The legitimacy of the document hasn't been determined, but its distribution touched off protests Sunday in Cairo by hundreds of Coptic Christians.
You should read the whole thing but I wouldn't be surprised if these "reported" clashes had little to do with religious differences.
'alCIAda' gets around. It just goes by different names - Blackwater, Dyncorp, Xe. Put headscarves on a few Whiteboy terrorists, sew the seeds of dissension, and repeat.
The perfect recipe for dealing with a general strike amidst a REVOLUTION!
Jesu fuckin Christo (and I say that with the true spirit of ecumenicalism), get out of your shell and go see the world. There are fuckheads everywhere and nobody needs the CIA or anybody else to stir up trouble between people of different faiths, or colors, or tribes. You think Christians have it easy in Pakistan? Copts in Egypt? You think the Moslems and Hindus in India just continually embrace each other and never utter an unkind word? Christ, Americans are such fucking naive children, fed a diet of cheap pulp fiction and Hollywood thrillers, and thinking this pabulum gives them special insight into the world at large. Guess what? That stuff is fiction. Entertainment. Slap yourself back to silly, because you've gone too far.
A couple years ago a bunch of Buddhist monks went batshit crazy in Burma and burned alive a few Moslem families, including the children. Why? Because somebody imported some cloth material that had on it a loom wheel symbol, which represented the Wheel of Life as far as the Buddhists were concerned. Well, somebody made some women's longyis out of the material, and this drove the monks wild. Why? Because women are "dirty", so a woman wearing a Buddhist sacred symbol on her nether region was considered blasphemy. Then somebody said it was Moslems who imported the cloth and sewed the longyis. Mindless violence ensued. And these monks are the most respected members of the community, because they sit on their asses all day and chant, and pretend they don't give a shit about anything.
That's how humans sometimes behave.
Of course, in your mind the CIA or the Rothschilds probably were responsible. We're always seeing comments here along the lines of "wake the fuck up" and see the CIA/Mossad/MI6/Bilderberger/Rothschild/Trilaterialist/Mason hand in everything. Well, I say wake the fuck up and notice the ubiquitous hand of poorly evolved and irrational humanity in everything.
Yes, I'm being impolite here. Fuck it. I have no more patience with intellectual infants. ZH has become a magnet for goddamn loons, albeit loons who have delusions of knowledge and sophistication.
breaking out? muslims have been killing and persecuting Christians at a vigorous pace for some time. the MSM simply ignores it
And Christians do the same to Muslims. How is it out in far right field?
thats not true. more Christians are being killed by muslims now then ever before.
its a quiet one way crusade
Hmmm...I know that Christian armies have illegally invaded, and are occupying, Iraq and Afghanistan, but I wasn't aware of Muslim armies invading Christian lands - do tell.
Oh, right! And there was a small occupation of Spain as well as I remember by some religous group
Allah hates non Muslims. Muslims are only doing what the Prophet Mohammed told them to do.
Read the Koran. Muslims have a right to treat non Muslims differently. They can even make non Muslims pay a tax.
Allah fucking hates non Muslims.
Allah is a pimp.
muslims have been killing and persecuting Christians
oh yeah, here we go. what about the 'Christians' killing and persecuting everybody that is not Christian? Starting with the native people of N.A.? never mind the rest that preceded that time? Why? because that is the christian thing to do, is it not? That's what I want to know.
Ever since there has been a Single God there has been killing in his name - The Da Vinci Code
I propose a 11th Commandment 'Ya shall not kill in God's name or go to hell'(wouldn't a wise and mercifull god make that comandment? makes ya think don't ya) actually the 2th says 'Ya shall not use God's name in vain' I guess it means the same it's in interpretation that the people have a problem with
But than again what would be the fun in religion if you could not kill an infidel from time to time
Sounds like Psy-Ops to me.
This may just be some frustration so I'll have to wait for the youtube video.
Christians protecting Muslims during their prayers in Tahrir Square - Egypt
Christians Guarding Muslims During Prayer
Agree; divide and conquer.
Exactly. And just in time to distract paranoid GB conservatives from Republicans proposing real budget cuts.
Actually it already exist in Commandment # 6 and Commandment # 10. Don't blame God for man's failings.
Commandment # 6 Thou shall not Murder
Commandment #10 (paraphrase) Thou shall not covet anything your neighbor has.
If you want ot go further, Jesus said a new Commandment I give you "love one another as I have loved you."
I see no justification here for killing in God's name, although all religions have done so in the past.
Just to be clear: Moses' Commandments were to be applied to 'Jews' and not ther neighbors.
We could have a debate on that, but somehow I don't think I would convince you nor would you convince me..but if one truely believes that it was God that gave them to Moses, then one could believe that the Jews do not have exclusive rights to those truths, just as those who follow the Tao do not have exclusive rights to the truths taught by Lao Tzu.
If 'god' was fair and just there would be no such thing as a 'choosen nation' nor promissed land, but YHWH is not an equal oportunity god he likes some and kills others
Yeah I've had trouble with that concept myself. God is such a loving God I get all that- and so just and good....So he created all things.. After creating his dear precious "chosen people" so wtf did he bother creating everyone else, the untermensche, so he could have something to hate?
My point s that the application of Mosic Law to the 'goyem' by the new Chrstians was a revolutionary concept.
So now it's a "Like New" Covenant...low mileage?
Biblically speaking, from the 1611 Authorized Version: Gen 4:8-9
the very first murder with Cain slaying his brother Abel was over differences in worshipping God and human jealousy over God's perceived favor of who did it better. Murderous rage is as old as mankind, in the blood like seawater per Report from Iron Mountain.
History shows things haven't changed.
differences in worshipping God and human jealousy over God's perceived favor
you, sir, biblically speaking, quoting the good book, gen 4:8-9, forget gen 1:27 and gen 2:7, where it says that a sovereign human being was created in the image of God, and God (Mother Nature) is you - which commands you, sir, to respect other Gods, in this case, other human beings made in the image of God; therefore, no killing is warranted
Leviticus 24:22 - You are to have the same law for the alien and the native-born. I am the LORD your God.
I believe that you are thinking of the Muslim religion
Tool puts it best:
Angels on the sideline, Puzzled and amused. Why did Father give these humans free will? Now they're all confused.
Don't these talking monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around? Plenty in this holy garden, silly old monkeys, Where there's one you're bound to divide it
Right in two
Angels on the sideline, Baffled and confused. Father blessed them all with reason. And this is what they choose. (and this is what they choose)
Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey Over pieces of the ground. Silly monkeys give them thumbs, They forge a blade, And when there's one they're bound to divide it,
Right in two. Right in two.
Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey Over pieces of the ground. Silly monkeys give them thumbs, They make a club And beat their brother... down. How they survived so misguided is a mystery. Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven conscious of his fleeting time here
Gotta divide it all right in two
They fight, till they die Over earth, over sky They fight, over life, Over brawn, over air and light, Over love, over sun. Over blood They fight, or they die, all for what? For our rising!
Angels on the sideline again Been too long with patience and reason Angels on the sideline again Wondering when this tug of war will end
Gotta divide it all right in two Right in two
Right in two...
Was that the King James version of the Da Vinci Code?
how about: a) genesis 1:26 followed by; b) genesis 2:7
you are mixing and confusing issues. muslims kill christians because of jihad and religious edicts.
Us atheists have a lot of catching up to do.
I don't see the need to prosecute any religion, just lock them up in an Asylumn and be done with it
The Earth is their asylumn.
Rather Earth was made into the asylum.
but, made by (who/what/?)?
Thats the kind of reasoning that fascistic, nazi, communitistic, Whateveristic reasoning Athiests usually use for their 'its-in-your-best-interest-honest!' genocidal schemes. Good to see your keeping the faith.
+1 Statistically, atheists know a lot more about religion then members of any particular religion..
I guess we'll just have to take your word for it? Wait, now its not a 'statistic'
Naw, Atheists took the lead a few years after 'Athesim' became doctrinaire. Hail Stalin-Hitler-Mao!
Do you mean Dawkins and Hitchens?
I took a look around at Dawkins forum, they seemed a very angry and humorless lot. Hitchens, he is a twat. He was a complete Iraq war apologist before he started on his atheism schtick.
all we have to watch out for are the Otters and their hatred of our use tables instead of our tummies.
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