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Tue, 03/08/2011 - 21:56 | 1031797 Translational Lift
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"Department of Truth is now actively manipulating "data" in our own backyard"

Heaven!   How could you possibly think they would ever do a thing like that??

The whole friggin thing (economy) is just one big scam now..........

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:34 | 1031879 Ray1968
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From Bloomberg of course.

You only have to watch Jane King doing the morning Bloomberg Market Update (carried on my local am news) to get your daily dose of Orwellian "truth" and sunshine before your feet hit the shower.

I swear to God, every morning it is nothing but smiles and positive spin on EVERYTHING. Never any reality. They have lost all credibility.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 23:18 | 1031987 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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See Catherine Austin Fitts, see Damon Vrabel...

(this is advice in general to everyone)

Hell, see David DeGraw, Charlie Sheen, and Max Keiser (all together on one short thread).

We have a centrally controlled command economy, because of this debt-money system. Business always gets bigger. Government always gets bigger. This is because corporations have to get bigger to survive under this monetary system. The Red Judas Goats sell pro-business, anti-government hopium. The Blue Judas Goats sell the opposite.

The economy, the markets, the "government" as we know it all should have collapsed already in a relatively free market. The shadow government players and bankers upped the stakes to keep it all going, effectively taking central control of so many aspects of the economy.

So here we have the biggest psychotic corporation in world history, known colloquially as "the U.S." and propaganda is vital for its continuation. Go and listen to Catherine Fitts and Damon Vrabel. They can actually explain what is happening in the world, unlike the propaganda channels.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 23:24 | 1031999 Michael
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I love Catherine. I always listen to her on AJ's infowars.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 23:50 | 1032053 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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That's where I first saw her...

AJ brought me into what he calls the "infowar", but I don't listen to him hardly at all anymore.

Basically, I've learned to spot the actions of the NWO globalists without AJ pointing them out to me.

I do follow infowars on Twitter.

Honest question: Aren't you worried about Alex "Hear-no-See-No-Speak-no-Zionist-Conspiracy" Jones being a controlled opposition shill? I've been wondering about him more and more recently.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:34 | 1032212 Oh regional Indian
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Thought this might be really worth taking a look at and sharing.


Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:37 | 1032217 Oh regional Indian
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Thought this might be really worth taking a look at and sharing.


Wed, 03/09/2011 - 02:46 | 1032269 Michael
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To tell you the truth I like AJ's take on the situation. It's almost the same as I would say about it but with more tiger blood, and add some of the more obvious things everybody already knows about like the nepotism and the masters of deception thing. I first heard it really well articulated by him on 3/07/2011. AJ has to be a bit careful and articulate his position really well because the ADL will crucify you like they did to Charlie Sheen and others recently. The thing I don't like is the persecution for what the ADL deems inappropriate to them. That just indicates to me they own you so you better make sure you don't cross them because they are more powerful than you. Bullshit.

I've said the same thing as AJ before here, you never bring physical violence in hate of Jews or you have to deal with me first. That goes for Blacks, Whites, Latino, and every one else too.

Alex Jones Puts Anti-Semitic Caller in His Place!!

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 03:37 | 1032301 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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Cool, cool. Good link. Very appropriate. AJ makes a powerful good case there.

Gratuitous, unsettling thought, however:

On corporate radio music stations, every day, you can hear callers talking to DJs, requesting some song. The song has already started playing at low volume when the DJ starts talking to the caller -- it's the intro to the song and the lyrics haven't started yet. Miraculously, every single time, right when the caller says what song they want, the DJ gets in some last exciting comment and then the volume of the song goes up and the lyrics start.

They have the timing perfect because the caller has said his or her peace five, ten, thirty minutes ago. The DJ was just responding to recorded clips of the "lucky" caller. It sounds like a natural conversation to the listeners, but it is quite the opposite. Some people might not get what I'm saying but it's really simple. Any time those music stations have the DJs talking to the caller after the Lady Gaga song has started, the caller is not a live person: the "caller" is just recorded audio splices of someone who called in earlier to request Lady Gaga. It has to be this way otherwise you'd have Joe Six-Tooth mumbling and bumbling and generally fucking up the flow of the conversation that needs to happen before the Gaga lyrics start.

Whew, that was a long story, but you can flip on your commericial music entertainment radio stations today or tomorrow and see what I'm talking about.

And the point is that even Alex Jones talking to that retarded goon could be a radio set up in much the same way. Some Joe Six-Tooth could have called in an hour ago, talked to a screener, been recorded, and then they used audio clips from the conversation as material for Alex to deliver a great "I'm not a crypto-Zionist" speech. It really could be. Even the part where he says "Did we screen your call?" could be faked, easily. [h/t Tom Leykis]

But I don't know if it is or isn't, one way or the other. Sometimes I feel like it's more-than-50% likely that 2011 AJ is just a psyop controlled opposition... sometimes I feel like it's less-than. I feel the same way about ZH (ZH would be a prime investment for Goldman). I do know that paranoia can be more powerful than spirituality, and that anyone with basic lawyer skills can pull the Doubt Card on anything.

I also know that ZH and Alex Jones have given a ton of great, legitimate info.

See you next time, Michael.

(clip with Alex Jones calling Kabbalah "junk" and "crazy")

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 04:55 | 1032342 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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The moral of the story (and what I've heard from CAF and DV):

be your own leader

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 08:52 | 1032471 johnQpublic
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interesting take on things

i've got my AJ doubts too

good info spliced with Crameresque clownshow

i'm thinking if he was speaking 100% unbiased truth he would be long dead

just another tool?

every tool is not a hammer, every fastener is not a nail

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 00:08 | 1032071 whatsinaname
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Can somebody bailout Dynegy ? BK on da way !!

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:42 | 1032226 dick cheneys ghost
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israel wants another $20 billion from uncle sam.......

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 21:53 | 1031801 Pants McPants
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Yet another reason why ZeroHedge is the greatest website in existence.  Well done, Tyler(s)

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:23 | 1031878 Robot Traders Mom
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You are exactly right. Fuck it, I'm a zerohedge kool-aid drinker.

Fruit Punch bitchez

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 23:02 | 1031962 rocker
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+2 on the Punch and ZH is the Best.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 23:19 | 1031990 Michael
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I continually underestimate the true value and genius of this precious national treasure called Zero Hedge, without which we would all be but scurried little beetles burrowing in the ground.

What I just fucking read blows me away.

Thanks TD.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 09:56 | 1032627 cranky-old-geezer
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I'm a zerohedge kool-aid drinker.

I spend most of my internet time on ZH these days and I too appreciate the wealth of truthful relevant information here, emphasis on truthful and relevant.

However I don't drink anyone's kool-aid including ZH.  There is some real garbage here just like anywhere else, it doesn't come from Tyler, his posts are pretty spot on, it comes from some "contributors" Tyler allows here. 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 21:57 | 1031805 Mercury
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Seriously, I think the Chinese have figured out that locking up your $US for 20-30 years with the US Treasury at these yields is a joke...

Can they/do they buy TIPS?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 23:11 | 1031975 DonutBoy
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TIPS are a joke too.  We set the CPI.  One it comes time to screw every bond-holder and every recipient of a COLA-adjusted retirement benefit, we'll nail them all.

This is another great ZH post, de-spinning the spin.


Tue, 03/08/2011 - 21:58 | 1031813 themosmitsos
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Archiving, FTMFW! Tyler :) ... Necessary these days

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:00 | 1031818 nyse
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Well done.

The best lies are veiled in truth. Or truth speak.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:00 | 1031823 Abitdodgie
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The Yuan the next world reserve , please place your vote

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 23:06 | 1031968 rocker
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+ Ruble and Gold.  China and Russia already trade with these triplets: Yuan, Ruble and Gold.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:57 | 1032242 Bringin It
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ASEAN trade with China can be settled in RMB.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 10:37 | 1032770 paleofartus
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Did anyone note and wonder about the Russian initiative to make Moscow an "international financial center" and engaging the banking brotherhood (Blankfein, as consultants? According to FT the boyz are going to Moscow to confer with Medyev.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 07:42 | 1032388 TireBite
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Why should the yuan be the next reserve currency? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Highly manipulated, fiat currency.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:07 | 1031838 Misean
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Violation of the Memory Hole!

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:08 | 1031843 buzzsaw99
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torpedos of truth running straight and true

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 08:24 | 1032417 Meme Iamfurst
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If you mean ZH and Tyler, I agree.

As for Bloomberg, they are getting to be the new CNBC..... and investors Daily, good to dround out the barking dog next door or wrap fish in...depending on your need.

Frankly, even npr and PRN are both getting a bit valley girl, and simply repeating the BS the government hands out with out a question. 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:10 | 1031845 plocequ1
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Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:14 | 1031853 Coast Watcher
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This is why we come here. Outstanding work.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:15 | 1031854 vonuistic
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Going with a long shot, revamped Greek Drachma

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 23:35 | 1032017 FeralSerf
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Zimbabwe dollars.  There's a scientific principle that states when you're on the South Pole, the only you can go is north.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:14 | 1031856 Tortfeasor
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Regarding bonds and QE2/QE3 arguments:

Hasn't the Treas been over-financing the debt over the last 6-9 months?  I believe I rememeber seeing that report here a few times.  If that is the case, then QE3 is not a foregone conclusion, at least not immediately, as the .gov should be able to go some period of time before needing a larger infusion of cash (via issuing more debt).

That could give the Fed a little bit of wiggle room to stop QE2 and test the waters before implementation of QE3 is required.  My guess is that BB would hope that post-QE2 debt issuance is well-subscribed, so that the Treas can slowly increase debt issuance as funding problems approach.

Your thoughts?

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:16 | 1031862 Misean
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Nice theory. However, I believe the information indicates the gov blowing through money at a faster rate than expected.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 23:59 | 1032065 Michael
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T minus 4 months till the US economy reaches critical mass. QE3 debt monetization is a 100% mathematical certainty.

US treasury yields continue to climb in anticipation. The cost of capitol to the Federal Government is going, so to speak, parabolic.

The dollar is toast in July. 

Fasten your seat belt boys, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:24 | 1032204 prophet_banker
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i agree rates will rise in the future, but i just read Tyler's POMO, and the 10 year treasury actually went down, not up!!! wow, guess markets can stay irrational longer than most can stay solvent.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 04:31 | 1032328 spdrdr
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"I" comes before "E" except after "C".

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 00:08 | 1032070 narnia
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The Fed never put a maximum on QE2.  The official position is that they would purchase at least $600 billion.  The use of the "QE3" language is now a move on the chess board.  I suspect Bernanke will come out and declare himself the greatest inflation hawk of the century and not go through with QE3.  All along, QE2 will be que'd up ready to go any time he sees fit.  

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:15 | 1031860 Caviar Emptor
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Ben has become the biggest Televangelist in history: he preaches his gospel and the world joins hands and rocks and sings in rapture! It's a new paradigm for sure, this time it really is different, this is the dawning of a new era! Ben says "Throw out your worn economics texts, cast out the messengers of doom, open your hearts to the new clear dawn and take the Fed into your life forever!"

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:25 | 1031880 Translational Lift
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Like it or not......the Fed is in our life forever.........

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:32 | 1031900 Caviar Emptor
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Isn't it wonderful ? 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:17 | 1031861 Long-John-Silver
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It was an American that invented Propaganda.........

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 01:27 | 1032207 prophet_banker
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that's not fair, pervert sigmond freud's nephew edward bernays should be identified as israeli, not american.  Same with that prince andrew story, entertaining that pervert Epstein, who was identified as an american on bbc, when actually he is an israeli.  dual citizens my a**.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 02:32 | 1032265 XPolemic
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Actually no. It was the Catholic Church who 'went out and propagated the faith' that gave rse to both the name and methods of propaganda.

It was an American who perfected it.

I found this to be quite a good summary.

Hysterical title, but the doc itself is quite measured and informative.

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:17 | 1031863 gwar5
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The level of deceitfulness means it's even worse than we think

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 00:42 | 1032142 Twindrives
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........Obama is the absolute master of deceit.....he is manipulated, yet manipulative..... on the surface a sincere leader, underneath a lying usurper........sinister destroyer of the Republic....and destroyer of all the values it's citizens' hold dear......articulate in his speech, dastardly in his deeds.... 

Tue, 03/08/2011 - 22:17 | 1031865 TooBearish
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Right on Ty! Vive La ZH!

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